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Woher Sie?

Ger-man
21-01-2006, 23:17
Wo würde das sein?
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-01-2006, 23:19
Ja. Iche esse gern mit fruhstucke
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-01-2006, 23:22
What is it with you guys and "German" threads?
Drunk commies deleted
21-01-2006, 23:23
Ich bin von New Jersey, USA.
SoWiBi
21-01-2006, 23:23
Instead of starting several pseudo-German threads, why don't you all knock yourself out in the German thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=462059), huh?
Ger-man
21-01-2006, 23:24
What is it with you guys and "German" threads?

What is it with you guys and your english treads? What a stupit question. This is a world wide forum stupit. Im from Germany and perfer to speak in german
Maraque
21-01-2006, 23:25
Ich bin von NY.

German is such an awesome language.
Ger-man
21-01-2006, 23:26
Sir, instead of starting several pseudo-German threads, just knock yourself out in the German thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=462059), huh?
We are allowed to post just as many germand therds as you english! I get Nation states in German! All the writeing on the home page is in german for me! Its not an english forum!
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-01-2006, 23:26
What is it with you guys and your english treads? What a stupit question. This is a world wide forum stupit. Im from Germany and perfer to speak in german
Honey, you're about as much from Germany as I'm from America.
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-01-2006, 23:26
What is it with you guys and your english treads?

They give my tyres better grip on the roads, especially when it's wet. Which is often, here in Cornwall, England.
Ger-man
21-01-2006, 23:27
Ich komme aus Deutschland
Thomish Kingdom
21-01-2006, 23:30
Ich komme aus Irland (This is cool..I should post in Gaelic..Just no one would understand...)
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-01-2006, 23:31
(This is cool..I should post in Gaelic..Just no one would understand...)

Dude, some people who post in English can't be understood

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Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-01-2006, 23:33
Ich komme aus Deutschland
Oh Mann, ich kann nicht glauben, dass ich tatsächlich darauf antworte, aber irgendjemand muss es ja tun. Ich schreib' einfach ganz viel, vielleicht erschreckt er sich dann, der Kleine. Jetzt macht er seit Tagen merkwürdige Fädchen auf "Deutsch" und ich dachte, naja, hat er halt Spaß dran, aber jetzt wird er auch noch ganz defensiv. Dabei erkennt jeder, der sich schonmal bei Ebay umgeschaut hat, sofort den Unterschied zwischen jemandem, der kein Deutsch kann und jemandem, der schlecht Deutsch kann. Unser "Ger-Man" (wie geil überhaupt) fällt ja nun doch leider definitiv in die erste Kategorie. Außer natürlich, unser Schulsystem ist inzwischen völlig zusammengebrochen :eek: . Steh der schiefe Turm noch?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
21-01-2006, 23:36
Ich komme aus Irland (This is cool..I should post in Gaelic..Just no one would understand...)
Yeah, please do - I've always wanted to learn Gaelic. Well, not that you posting in it would in any way help me learn it, but, er... nevermind.

At least I could look at it and think "Ooh, how pretty, I really should learn this." Or something.
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-01-2006, 23:38
. Steh der schiefe Turm noch?

WTF?

"Stand the inclined tower still?"

God I love free translators.
Stuff91
21-01-2006, 23:40
I live in Great Britian. (UK)

Ich wohne in großem Britian(Got that from an online Dictionay)
Stuff91
21-01-2006, 23:41
WTF?

"Stand the inclined tower still?"

God I love free translators.
Whats he mean?
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-01-2006, 23:43
Wo würde das sein?

Um die Ecke

(I think that answer even makes sense!:eek: )
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-01-2006, 23:43
Andere Welt (Other World)

Does this mean you're an alien?
SoWiBi
21-01-2006, 23:46
We are allowed to post just as many germand therds as you english! I get Nation states in German! All the writeing on the home page is in german for me! Its not an english forum!

Too bad your German is outdone by this "English" of yours by far.

Ich habe für ein Projekt versucht, NS in deutsch zu bekommen, und es gibt zwar eine einzelne Seite, aber das gesamte Spiel ist nur in der englischen Version erhältlich. Versuch bitte nicht, hier solche dreisten Behauptungen aufzuziehen.

Und es ist ein englisches Forum, duh. Und obwohl wir unseren deutschen Thread hegen und pflegen (wogegen auch (fast) niemand was sagt), ist es common curtesy, seine deutschen Neigungen dort auszuleben und sich ansonsten auf Threads zu beschränken, an denen alle teilhaben können.
SoWiBi
21-01-2006, 23:52
WTF?

"Stand the inclined tower still?"

God I love free translators.

Pisa -> remember the Leaning Tower in that little town in Tuscany?

PISA -> Programme for International Student Assessment

Now all you need to do is get your translator to tell you that she spoke about our education system..:)
Thomish Kingdom
21-01-2006, 23:52
Too bad your German is outdone by this "English" of yours by far.

Ich habe für ein Projekt versucht, NS in deutsch zu bekommen, und es gibt zwar eine einzelne Seite, aber das gesamte Spiel ist nur in der englischen Version erhältlich. Versuch bitte nicht, hier solche dreisten Behauptungen aufzuziehen.

Und es ist ein englisches Forum, duh. Und obwohl wir unseren deutschen Thread hegen und pflegen (wogegen auch (fast) niemand was sagt), ist es common curtesy, seine deutschen Neigungen dort auszuleben und sich ansonsten auf Threads zu beschränken, an denen alle teilhaben können.

Of course its not an English only thread. I speak English and I still dont agree with that absurb
statement!
Heron-Marked Warriors
21-01-2006, 23:53
Pisa -> remember the Leaning Tower in that little town in Tuscany?

PISA -> Programme for International Student Assessment

Now all you need to do is get your translator to tell you that she spoke about our education system..:)

You just wrecked my fun:( ;)
SoWiBi
21-01-2006, 23:56
Of course its not an English only thread. I speak English and I still dont agree with that absurb
statement!

I'd be delighted if you could point out to me just where I said this were an English only thread.
SoWiBi
21-01-2006, 23:57
You just wrecked my fun:( ;)

You just wrecked my smileylessness.
Thomish Kingdom
21-01-2006, 23:59
Pisa -> remember the Leaning Tower in that little town in Tuscany?

PISA -> Programme for International Student Assessment

Now all you need to do is get your translator to tell you that she spoke about our education system..:)

Some Germans are so rude and always mad. You can understand though with there terrible military history. The murder of millions by there country during 2 great wars and many roman empire raids on INNOCENT villages.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:00
I'd be delighted if you could point out to me just where I said this were an English only thread.

I meant only english forum
Heron-Marked Warriors
22-01-2006, 00:00
You just wrecked my smileylessness.

I'm sorry.
Maelog
22-01-2006, 00:05
Tod, wo ist dein Stachel?

Hölle, wo ist dein Sieg?
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:10
Some Germans are so rude and always mad. You can understand though with there terrible military history. The murder of millions by there country during 2 great wars and many roman empire raids on INNOCENT villages.
You entertain me. Do I understand correctly that you are trying to explain my attitude in this thread with references to my nationality, my country's behavior in the two World Wars and happenings related to the Roman Empire? I'm kept on the edge of my seat while I'm waiting for you to elaborate on that. I can't wait for the Roman Empire one, especially, if you want a heads up on how to please this lady.
Vetalia
22-01-2006, 00:12
You entertain me. Do I understand correctly that you are trying to explain my attitude in this thread with references to my nationality, my country's behavior in the two World Wars and happenings related to the Roman Empire? I'm kept on the edge of my seat while I'm waiting for you to elaborate on that. I can't wait for the Roman Empire one, especially, if you want a heads up on how to please this lady.

Didn't the Romans kill/enslave hundreds of thousands of Teutonic and Gothic tribes over the course of 300 or so years?
Neo Kervoskia
22-01-2006, 00:15
As TSI would say...

Oh God. Here we go again.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:17
I meant only english forum
I never said that, either.
I recommend you use the quote function from now on, but this way an educated guess of mine will have to do. Taking the chance that you are thinking about the
Und es ist ein englisches Forum
I'd like to refer you to the
Its not an english forum
that it answered to. No, this is not an English only forum. I often fail at the coherence thing, but it would be pushing the line a little too much saying that and then linking to the German thread, no?
I said this was an English forum. Which it just and plain is. And then proceeded to tell the OP that whilst occasional foreign-language spin-offs are fun, it were common curtesy to keep the bulk of ones threads in English in order for everyone to be able to enjoy them.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:17
You entertain me. Do I understand correctly that you are trying to explain my attitude in this thread with references to my nationality, my country's behavior in the two World Wars and happenings related to the Roman Empire? I'm kept on the edge of my seat while I'm waiting for you to elaborate on that. I can't wait for the Roman Empire one, especially, if you want a heads up on how to please this lady.

Your country started 2 World Wars and killed over 6 million jews in the process and over 1 million russians. Many of your own civilans were also killed as well as every countrys civilians you occupied.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:18
Tod, wo ist dein Stachel?

Hölle, wo ist dein Sieg?
I'd say the answer to at least the second one would be NS General.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:20
Didn't the Romans kill/enslave hundreds of thousands of Teutonic and Gothic tribes over the course of 300 or so years?
And Thomish says I suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder from that, or what?
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:24
And Thomish says I suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder from that, or what?

I never said anything of the kind. I said many Germans do because of there awful history. You might. Im not sure
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:25
Your country started 2 World Wars and killed over 6 million jews in the process and over 1 million russians. Many of your own civilans were also killed as well as every countrys civilians you occupied.
I note that you omitted the Roman Empire part this time. I'm highly disappointed.

I am very well aware of the WWII death toll. But while I quite enjoy creative randomness in many posters, I do have to ask how this relates to this thread, or more specifically to that post of mine you quoted when you first started this line of arguing?

Going a little off-topic myself, I can't help but point out that your wording is slightly off. The persecution of the Jews was much less a by-product of WWII than its end was a by-product of the end of WWII.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:31
I note that you omitted the Roman Empire part this time. I'm highly disappointed.

I am very well aware of the WWII death toll. But while I quite enjoy creative randomness in many posters, I do have to ask how this relates to this thread, or more specifically to that post of mine you quoted when you first started this line of arguing?

Going a little off-topic myself, I can't help but point out that your wording is slightly off. The persecution of the Jews was much less a by-product of WWII than its end was a by-product of the end of WWII.

I am not saying the Romans were the niced guys but the germans use to raid northen Roman citys murdering all from age 1 to age 99. I dont have anything against you for that at all. It was such a long time ago. Nor do I have anything against you as a person of Germany. Not your fawlt you were born into such a history depressed country. I just hate Germany as a thing.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:33
I never said anything of the kind. I said many Germans do because of there awful history. You might. Im not sure
You quoted me, implied I were "mad and rude", and then went to explain that by my country's military history.
And rest assured that that terrible stress from the Roman Empire thing hasn't yet gotten to me. I even hazard the guess that my country's past wrongdoings in times where even my parents weren't born yet fails to influence my posts in NS General, I'm afraid. Cold-heartedness is mine.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:36
You quoted me, implied I were "mad and rude", and then went to explain that by my country's military history.
And rest assured that that terrible stress from the Roman Empire thing hasn't yet gotten to me. I even hazard the guess that my country's past wrongdoings in times where even my parents weren't born yet fails to influence my posts in NS General, I'm afraid. Cold-heartedness is mine.

I would like to end this fight and forget we even started it. I am sorry. We are all in The EU now. Even though I HATE the EU. Its trying to take our national Independence with there constitutionl and all............
Alinania
22-01-2006, 00:38
Your country started 2 World Wars and killed over 6 million jews in the process and over 1 million russians. Many of your own civilans were also killed as well as every countrys civilians you occupied.
Wow... thanks for that info... how could I have missed that? :rolleyes:
(just curious on how a country can occupy a civilian though... but I'll leave that up to everyone's imagination :p)
Go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars) for a list of wars that have been/are still going on. Based on your assumptions the whole word should be highly aggressive (and Americans at least as much as the German people)...
The end is nigh, people!
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:40
I am not saying the Romans were the niced guys but the germans use to raid northen Roman citys murdering all from age 1 to age 99. I dont have anything against you for that at all. It was such a long time ago. Nor do I have anything against you as a person of Germany. Not your fawlt you were born into such a history depressed country. I just hate Germany as a thing.
I find it very nice of you to clear away any assumptions about your personal feelings about me this way. Know that I don't hold your nationality against you, either.
While I don't share your hatred of this country, I cannot say I love it, either. But you once again fail to explain how a country's 50+-years-ago history is to influence a poster's attitude in an NS General thread.
I admit that even though I had very good grades in both my history and psychology classes, I have to give up at that particular connection.
Alinania
22-01-2006, 00:40
I am not saying the Romans were the niced guys but the germans use to raid northen Roman citys murdering all from age 1 to age 99. I dont have anything against you for that at all. It was such a long time ago. Nor do I have anything against you as a person of Germany. Not your fawlt you were born into such a history depressed country. I just hate Germany as a thing.
You do know that Germany as we know it today didn't exist back in the times of the Romans, right?
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:40
Wow... thanks for that info... how could I have missed that? :rolleyes:
(just curious on how a country can occupy a civilian though... but I'll leave that up to everyone's imagination :p)
Go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars) for a list of wars that have been/are still going on. Based on your assumptions the whole word should be highly aggressive (and Americans at least as much as the German people)...
The end is nigh, people!

Oh, The Americans killed 6 million Iraqis or korens? Never knew that
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:43
I find it very nice of you to clear away any assumptions about your personal feelings about me this way. Know that I don't hold your nationality against you, either.
While I don't share your hatred of this country, I cannot say I love it, either. But you once again fail to explain how a country's 50+-years-ago history is to influence a poster's attitude in an NS General thread.
I admit that even though I had very good grades in both my history and psychology classes, I have to give up at that particular connection.

You yelled at a guy a couple of pots back and he said you made him mad as you did to me because I agreed with him. So I just got into the war and again I shouldent of brought that up.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:43
Go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars) for a list of wars that have been/are still going on. Based on your assumptions the whole word should be highly aggressive (and Americans at least as much as the German people)...

Whoa girl, you just, like, totally explained General! And I thought it was the sleep-deprivation or the realization with every post that you reeaally should be doing something else, but..whoa!
Alinania
22-01-2006, 00:44
Oh, The Americans killed 6 million Iraqis or korens? Never knew that
Psst... there's more to US war history than Korea and Iraq... (remember... the German comparison thing went way back too).
Alinania
22-01-2006, 00:45
Whoa girl, you just, like, totally explained General! And I thought it was the sleep-deprivation or the realization with every post that you reeaally should be doing something else, but..whoa!
Something ...else? You mean... there's a world out there, that has nothing to do with NS?? :eek:
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 00:46
I am not saying the Romans were the niced guys but the germans use to raid northen Roman citys murdering all from age 1 to age 99.
And the Romans did it back. And the Celts did it to the Romans. And the Romans to the Celts. And the Aztecs to the Olmeks.

Damn them Yucatan Mexicans!

I dont have anything against you for that at all. It was such a long time ago.
Why thank you.
I would hate to have to make you responsible for Irish people blowing up British civilians...

I just hate Germany as a thing.
I suggest you have a look at what "Germany as a thing" is. It looks like you have absolutely no idea.

Start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
http://www.deutschland.de/home.php?lang=2
http://www.germany.info/relaunch/index.html
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:47
Psst... there's more to US war history than Korea and Iraq... (remember... the German comparison thing went way back too).

I was useing them as an example. America NEVER killed more than 6 Million Civilians! So shut it you anti america twat
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:48
You yelled at a guy a couple of pots back and he said you made him mad as you did to me because I agreed with him. So I just got into the war and again I shouldent of brought that up.
a) I don't yell. Ever.
b) He said I wrecked his fun. Being German and all, my vocab might just be distorted, but I never knew this to mean I made him mad. Also, you might want to check for smileys. I don't ask for recognition of such concepts as playfulness yet.
c) HMW and I had a war? Man, I was born too late to see any of the wars you mentioned before, and now I even missed this one?
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:50
I suggest you have a look at what "Germany as a thing" is. It looks like you have absolutely no idea.

Start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
http://www.deutschland.de/home.php?lang=2
http://www.germany.info/relaunch/index.html

The Germany I hate is the one that killed more than 6 million civilians and killed my friends father in the War!
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 00:51
I was useing them as an example. America NEVER killed more than 6 Million Civilians!
Ever heard of these people called "Native Americans"? How about those people called "Japanese"?
If not those, then perhaps "Vietnamese", "Cambodians" or "Laotians"?

I think you'll easily get 6 million together.

So shut it you anti america twat
Ooooh, cut back on the insults, my easily angered friend.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:51
a) I don't yell. Ever.
b) He said I wrecked his fun. Being German and all, my vocab might just be distorted, but I never knew this to mean I made him mad. Also, you might want to check for smileys. I don't ask for recognition of such concepts as playfulness yet.
c) HMW and I had a war? Man, I was born too late to see any of the wars you mentioned before, and now I even missed this one?

I am talking about the Great War II
Heron-Marked Warriors
22-01-2006, 00:51
Something ...else? You mean... there's a world out there, that has nothing to do with NS?? :eek:

We use it to spark debates, but it's only the extension of our collective imagination.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:53
I was useing them as an example. America NEVER killed more than 6 Million Civilians! So shut it you anti america twat

I'm German, I like things neat and orderly. So I'll start a list. I'm a list person that way.

Rule#1: The estimated amount of armed conflict victims your country is responsible for is directly proportional to your aggressiveness on NS.

Rule#2: Name-calling gets you very far here too and backs up your argument in a stylish way facts never could do.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:53
Ever heard of these people called "Native Americans"? How about those people called "Japanese"?
If not those, then perhaps "Vietnamese", "Cambodians" or "Laotians"?

I think you'll easily get 6 million together.


Ooooh, cut back on the insults, my easily angered friend.

not at all! The 2 nucks killed barly half a million together and most of the indiands killed (excepth for a few attacks) were done in battle. Look up history
Heron-Marked Warriors
22-01-2006, 00:54
c) HMW and I had a war?

Oh hell yes we did. And now I'm going to ensure that, in 60 years, my grandchildren beat up your granchildren since that is the logical way to make things better.

:p
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 00:54
The Germany I hate is the one that killed more than 6 million civilians and killed my friends father in the War!
Aha...well, burn a few history books then, cuz that's the only place you'll find that one.

I however could have a look and see a very modern Britain and a very modern America, which are still the same countries which turned my city into this (http://www.exulanten.com/images/90b_hamburg_1945.jpg).

Holding grudges for people who've long been dead is a pointless exercise.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:55
I'm German, I like things neat and orderly. So I'll start a list. I'm a list person that way.

Rule#1: The estimated amount of armed conflict victims your country is responsible for is directly proportional to your aggressiveness on NS.

Rule#2: Name-calling gets you very far here too and backs up your argument in a stylish way facts never could do.

Im not american! I live in Ireland.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:56
I am talking about the Great War IIYou yelled at a guy a couple of pots back and he said you made him mad as you did to me because I agreed with him. So I just got into the war and again I shouldent of brought that up.

HMW and I had a Great War II that you got into?
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:57
Aha...well, burn a few history books then, cuz that's the only place you'll find that one.

I however could have a look and see a very modern Britain and a very modern America, which are still the same countries which turned my city into this (http://www.exulanten.com/images/90b_hamburg_1945.jpg).

Holding grudges for people who've long been dead is a pointless exercise.

Dident kill over 6 million did it? Actually more toward 8million. If you count all the French, Russians, and other Europeans. You can rebuild buildings..Not lifes,
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 00:58
HMW and I had a Great War II that you got into?

World War 2! In the REAL world.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 00:59
Oh hell yes we did. And now I'm going to ensure that, in 60 years, my grandchildren beat up your granchildren since that is the logical way to make things better.
:p
Oh yes, and then we'll keep hit scores and the family who scored most gets to win this thread?
Heron-Marked Warriors
22-01-2006, 01:00
World War 2! In the REAL world.

This is the real world. Silly.
Heron-Marked Warriors
22-01-2006, 01:01
Oh yes, and then we'll keep hit scores and the family who scored most gets to win this thread?

Sounds like a deal to me.

**goes to procreate vigorously so he can win the best thread ever**
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 01:03
not at all! The 2 nucks killed barly half a million together and most of the indiands killed (excepth for a few attacks) were done in battle. Look up history
Oh, I wasn't talking about the nukes.

Let's see...

Native Americans (your idea about battles is quite frankly false):
http://www.unitednativeamerica.com/aiholocaust.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_American_indigenous_peoples#The_genocide_debate

Japanese:
Estimates range somewhere around 700,000 thousand, with more than a hundred thousand dying afterwards of the Atomic Bomb's after effects.

Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

Koreans:
I won't bore you with figures, so I have this US Document for you to look at.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Shootingkoreancivilians.jpg

And so on and so forth.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:04
World War 2! In the REAL world.
Now, I'm not an internet/forum wizz so I needed to put quite some effort to get those two quotes so nealy together, and the bolding done, too! You seem to completely ignore my effort. I'm devastated.

Also, I am with Alinania. What is this REAL world you are talking about?
Alinania
22-01-2006, 01:04
I was useing them as an example. America NEVER killed more than 6 Million Civilians! So shut it you anti america twat
Ooh, we got to name calling, this is so much fun! :p
It's not a contest about who killed more people, I was using the US as an example as well. I might have used GB, or France or another country, but I didn't. That doesn't make me Anti-American, much less a 'twatty' one.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:06
Oh, I wasn't talking about the nukes.

Let's see...

Native Americans (your idea about battles is quite frankly false):
http://www.unitednativeamerica.com/aiholocaust.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_American_indigenous_peoples#The_genocide_debate

Japanese:
Estimates range somewhere around 700,000 thousand, with more than a hundred thousand dying afterwards of the Atomic Bomb's after effects.

Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

Koreans:
I won't bore you with figures, so I have this US Document for you to look at.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Shootingkoreancivilians.jpg

And so on and so forth.

Id get into what the germans did in Concentration camps but It would take to long. As well as in Russia. More than a million rusians from Kids to old guys just killed. It wasent as bad in the rest of Europe but still bad
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:07
**goes to procreate vigorously so he can win the best thread ever**

Quantity over quality.
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 01:09
Dident kill over 6 million did it? Actually more toward 8million. If you count all the French, Russians, and other Europeans.
It was a lot more than that. They estimate that at least 19 million Russian civilians were killed during the war for example.

But that's not the point. The point is that that Germany no longer exists. There has been a clean legal break. This country is not the same country that commited these crimes.
Apart from the legal issues, the same is true for the people. Denazification was successful, Germans are no longer subject to the same culture they were before 1945.

Your argument that you have to somehow make today's Federal Republic responsible for the crimes of the Empire doesn't have a leg to stand on, regardless from which angle you look at it.
And if it does...what about pretty much every other country? I have shown you the US figures, I can do the same for the French, or the British.
What about Stalin or Mao? You can't make modern Russia or China responsible for their actions either.

You can rebuild buildings..Not lifes,
Indeed. Problem just so happened to be that there were people in those buildings too, my friend.
Alinania
22-01-2006, 01:10
Id get into what the germans did in Concentration camps but It would take to long. As well as in Russia. More than a million rusians from Kids to old guys just killed. It wasent as bad in the rest of Europe but still bad
It was a war. That's what they're all about. Killing people. Generally you don't go ask people how old they are before shooting at them, do you now? And while we're at it... the few Germans that died in the war... let me guess... it was their own fault?
Heron-Marked Warriors
22-01-2006, 01:10
Quantity over quality.

Tell that to the Russians.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:11
To Neu Leonstein,

I am parying you are not comparing America to The nazi killing machine. Even the most patriotic German would disagree. that is a disgrace and im sick to the stomic to hear that.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:11
It's not a contest about who killed more people
Oh. Sorry, got that wrong. Scratch Rule#1, then.
That doesn't make me [...] 'twatty' [...]
No?! So I kept hitting on you all those weeks and you lack that prerequisite?!
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 01:12
Id get into what the germans did in Concentration camps but It would take to long. As well as in Russia. More than a million rusians from Kids to old guys just killed. It wasent as bad in the rest of Europe but still bad
You:
America NEVER killed more than 6 Million Civilians!

Ergo: You were wrong. You dancing about telling me that "you did it too!" doesn't change a bit.

Notice how I already left out the victims of Allied Bombing Campaigns on German civilians. I think I had that one covered.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:13
To Neu Leonstein,
I am parying you are not comparing America to The nazi killing machine. Even the most patriotic German would disagree. that is a disgrace and im sick to the stomic to hear that.
As far as I gathered, Leon was talking numbers. Numbers are moral-free, you know.
Alinania
22-01-2006, 01:14
Oh. Sorry, got that wrong. Scratch Rule#1, then.

No?! So I kept hitting on you all those weeks and you lack that prerequisite?!
One post and I manage to dissapoint you twice? Sorry hun :p
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:14
It was a lot more than that. They estimate that at least 19 million Russian civilians were killed during the war for example.

But that's not the point. The point is that that Germany no longer exists. There has been a clean legal break. This country is not the same country that commited these crimes.
Apart from the legal issues, the same is true for the people. Denazification was successful, Germans are no longer subject to the same culture they were before 1945.

Your argument that you have to somehow make today's Federal Republic responsible for the crimes of the Empire doesn't have a leg to stand on, regardless from which angle you look at it.
And if it does...what about pretty much every other country? I have shown you the US figures, I can do the same for the French, or the British.
What about Stalin or Mao? You can't make modern Russia or China responsible for their actions either.


Indeed. Problem just so happened to be that there were people in those buildings too, my friend.

I never said Angela Merkel or any member of the German Govenment should stand trial today! Sorry sir but if you listened the whole time we are talking about the past. Germany as a whole history has killed more civilians then america. PERIOD
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:15
Tell that to the Russians.
Sorry, Russian is not within my repertoire, and I hate to rely on translators after seeing this thread.
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 01:16
To Neu Leonstein,

I am parying you are not comparing America to The nazi killing machine. Even the most patriotic German would disagree. that is a disgrace and im sick to the stomic to hear that.
Don't try the emotional road with me. It doesn't cut it in a debate.

I agree that the Nazi (note how I say "Nazi", not "German") killing machine was the most dehumanising, and therefore most horrible creation humanity has come up with yet.

However, my point is that modern Germans have nothing to do with that. The country does remember, and remind itself a lot. But you have no case for blaming modern Germany, unless you think it somehow didn't handle the issue properly. In which case I would like you to tell me what could be done better.

By the way...I don't think you will find a "patriotic German" anywhere outside a football stadium.
Alinania
22-01-2006, 01:16
I never said Angela Merkel or any member of the German Govenment should stand trial today! Sorry sir but if you listened the whole time we are talking about the past. Germany as a whole history has killed more civilians then america. PERIOD
Which 'Germany' are you talking about??
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:17
Which 'Germany' are you talking about??

Every Germany in history. Can we get off this subject and back to the subject of the thread?
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:18
Sorry sir but if you listened the whole time we are talking about the past.
Oy! So I am rather egocentric, but I have to point out that we started this by talking about me and my attitude! I am a lot, but not a thing of the past!

Germany as a whole history has killed more civilians then america
Now who is not listening?
Alinania
22-01-2006, 01:19
Every Germany in history. Can we get off this subject and back to the subject of the thread?
Uh-huh. Ok. So the unified Germanies have single-handedly commited the most horrible atrocities on the entire planet and we're getting back on topic...is that what you meant?
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:20
One post and I manage to dissapoint you twice? Sorry hun :p
I deal. Especially now that I know that Thomish explicitly said they don't hate me. Think it is too late to hit on them?
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 01:20
Germany as a whole history has killed more civilians then america. PERIOD
Is that the only criterion?
*(and besides, a case could be made that the Americans ultimately killed more, not that it mattered)

What if I told you that Germany has faced its past, and dealt with it? That the country is genuinely aware of it, and tries to make up for it in its conduct?

What if I told you now that no other country has ever done that? Not the US, not Britain, not France, not Russia, not China, not even Japan.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:21
Uh-huh. Ok. So the unified Germanies have single-handedly commited the most horrible atrocities on the entire planet and we're getting back on topic...is that what you meant?

OK I AM SO TIRED OF FIGHTING!
Alinania
22-01-2006, 01:21
I deal. Especially now that I know that Thomish explicitly said they don't hate me. Think it is too late to hit on them?
I thought it was more of a general 'I don't hate you for being German' statement, but I might be wrong :p
Heron-Marked Warriors
22-01-2006, 01:23
Sorry, Russian is not within my repertoire, and I hate to rely on translators after seeing this thread.

Ah well. Don't let your grandkids say I didn't warn you, though, when hordes of semi-inbred peasants attack them.
Alinania
22-01-2006, 01:23
OK I AM SO TIRED OF FIGHTING!
Is that because you're outnumbered? I thought it was highly amusing, but then I didn't really consider it 'fighting' either. Ah well. Have it your way, I'm off... to the real world... :eek:
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 01:23
OK I AM SO TIRED OF FIGHTING!
Then don't.

This is just a silly debate over the internet. If we pay attention, we might both learn something, and that's pretty much all that matters.
No need to get angry.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:24
So, Neu the Aussie opens on. Is it very big there? I watch some of it.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:26
OK I AM SO TIRED OF FIGHTING!
Don't say that Germany and her warriors have another victim to account for?
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 01:27
So, Neu the Aussie opens on. Is it very big there? I watch some of it.
For about two or three weeks it's like Tennis is the only sport in the country. Channel 7 basically stops normal programming for the whole time and brings tennis eight hours or more a day.

I watch occasionally because there's nothing else on. Federer's gonna take it against Roddick in the Finals I reckon.
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:28
So what part of Germany are u from? sowibi?
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:29
Ah well. Don't let your grandkids say I didn't warn you, though, when hordes of semi-inbred peasants attack them.
I will make sure that my grandkids don't talk impudently to me, don't worry. There will be no blame.

So, Neu the Aussie opens on. Is it very big there? I watch some of it.
Will you please obey your own command and get (back) on-topic? Or at least stay with one off-topic topic?
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:29
For about two or three weeks it's like Tennis is the only sport in the country. Channel 7 basically stops normal programming for the whole time and brings tennis eight hours or more a day.

I watch occasionally because there's nothing else on. Federer's gonna take it against Roddick in the Finals I reckon.

I agree
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:31
Will you please obey your own command and get (back) on-topic? Or at least stay with one off-topic topic?

I am talking about Austalia with him. that is on topic as the topic is about where everyone is from.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:31
So what part of Germany are u from? sowibi?
I had the honor of being born in Lower Saxony, and as my location displays I am a current resident of North Rhine-Westphalia.

Where in Ireland do you happen to be from, Thomish?
Heron-Marked Warriors
22-01-2006, 01:32
that is on topic as the topic is about where everyone is from.

That's what this thread is about?!:eek:

I'm really making the eek dude work for his keep tonight
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:33
I had the honor of being born in Lower Saxony, and as my location displays I am a current resident of North Rhine-Westphalia.

Where in Ireland do you happen to be from, Thomish?

Clontarf, County Dublin. Just outside of the capitol
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:39
Clontarf, County Dublin. Just outside of the capitol
Oh, the Capitol's in County Dublin? Leon was right, we learn lots in this thread. [alright, sorry. i'm usually not the kind to call spelling.]

And, HMW, nobody knows for sure, but seeing as this thread's title might translate to "where from you?", we guessed it might be.
Heron-Marked Warriors
22-01-2006, 01:40
And, HMW, nobody knows for sure, but seeing as this thread's title might translate to "where from you?", we guessed it might be.

Well how about that? I suppose it's as good a topic as any, since New-Lexington's "things you do with your things" threads got moved to spam:(
Thomish Kingdom
22-01-2006, 01:45
Oh, the Capitol's in County Dublin? Leon was right, we learn lots in this thread. [alright, sorry. i'm usually not the kind to call spelling.]

And, HMW, nobody knows for sure, but seeing as this thread's title might translate to "where from you?", we guessed it might be.

The Capitol is Dublin city
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 01:53
The Capitol is Dublin city

It is? Woe be on my dictionary (http://www.onelook.com/?w=capitol&ls=a). And on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol), but their credibility was widely challenged before.
Kanabia
22-01-2006, 01:53
So, Neu the Aussie opens on. Is it very big there? I watch some of it.

Sure! The whole nation has practically stopped to watch some rather unattractive people hit around fluro-green balls. It reminds me of that porno I saw once.
SoWiBi
22-01-2006, 02:02
Sure! The whole nation has practically stopped to watch some rather unattractive people hit around fluro-green balls. It reminds me of that porno I saw once.
I hope it is not the fluro-green balls part that does.
Aggretia
22-01-2006, 02:05
I live in Great Britian. (UK)

Ich wohne in großem Britian(Got that from an online Dictionay)

I blelieve it's "Grossbritanien" with the double S of course.
Neu Leonstein
22-01-2006, 02:09
I blelieve it's "Grossbritanien" with the double S of course.
Well, since the "o" is a long sound, the "s" sound would be covered by one of these: "ß".
The "a" is short, so there will be a double-"n, while the "i" strictly speaking is not a short sound (although it's often pronounced that way).

Which gives us: Großbritannien.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
23-01-2006, 00:12
What a disappointment.

I get in two last posts on page one of this thing and - BAM, get struck with what feels like my own personal 24-hour forum ban, where all I can see is this thread ballooning to a hundred posts in the Latest Threads thingy on my nation page.

And now all's fixed and I come back to - this?



Well, at least the OP seems to have calmed down, so that's something.