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Where will Bin ladens threat happen if it happens?


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I say DC.

Maybe they won't use bombs.

He said they'll strike at America's heart...

....Kansas...? :confused:

"Several hundred cows were the victims of a bombing run by Al-Qaeda earlier today..."

Maybe they won't use bombs.

Turkeys?

Maybe they won't use bombs.
they'll beat us all with rubber chickens :D

they'll beat us all with rubber chickens :D


OR pie!

Maybe they won't use bombs.

Ya actually they dident use bombs on 9/11

Turkeys?
Suicide turkeys packed with C4! :eek:

Suicide turkeys packed with C4! :eek:

Scary thought, huh?

Maybe they'll sponsor fanatic right-wing Christian zealots for political offices to turn the US into exactly the place they want, just with a different religious symbol.

I'm curious, why is this poll closing on March 27, 2006? :confused:

Scary thought, huh?
Indeed. Then they'll move on to stuffing them up their buttocks with plutonium.

Mayhem and chaos!

Oh, well, I don't live in the US anyway. :p

Ya actually they dident use bombs on 9/11

Eh, depends on your definition of bomb. Plane loaded with highly explosive fuel? Maybe...

I'm curious, why is this poll closing on March 27, 2006? :confused:

That is D-day! LoL......I just typed in 66days for how long it should stay open. For no real reason.

It's heart, eh? Hmm.


Stand by.

He said they'll strike at America's heart...

....Kansas...? :confused:

"Several hundred cows were the victims of a bombing run by Al-Qaeda earlier today..."

Actually, believe it or not during the cold war, Kansas was rated very very high on Moscows target list. Not only because of the butt load of our own launch sites but because of the psychological factor.
For Osama's purposes however, I doubt there is much that would serve his puropse here. The heart of America in his mind is without a doubt the area that represents which his religion hates the most, and what is the easiest to target. NY, Washington etc are too high risk right now leaving the only reasonable choice either LA or San Francisco. Of course for the surprise factor one cannot rule out Seattle, Portland or Honolulu, but these areas have less media saturation, therefore less propaganda value.

anyone see that mythbusters episode about the flying turkeys?? crazy stuff.

The answer to this question is really simple. If you hated America and wanted to attack it through means of terror... where would you strike?

The whitehouse is the obvious answer. I hope none of this will ever happen again... in the US or abroad.

The answer to this question is really simple. If you hated America and wanted to attack it through means of terror... where would you strike?



The playboy mansion?

Okay, I got it:

Disneyworld.

Okay, I got it:

Disneyworld.

Actually, that's a really good idea.

The answer to this question is really simple. If you hated America and wanted to attack it through means of terror... where would you strike?

The whitehouse is the obvious answer. I hope none of this will ever happen again... in the US or abroad.

Oprah house? *one can only hope*

Playboy mansion?? Naa... to attack that joint all you need is a robe and a large supply of condoms. :D

I don't think they'll attack new york. at least i'll be suprised mainly because new york is over prepared. getting off the staten island ferry to 5 or 6 fully armed men (assault rifle, flash grenades, the works). there also all over the subways and most if not all major gov't buildings. now i hear theyre doin random searches on buses and trains.

crazyness.

I think it will occur all over the country, including on the west coast, but I doubt the East coast will go unharmed.

I think it will occur all over the country, including on the west coast, but I doubt the East coast will go unharmed.

Naw, it's too easy for the government to write off assorted random individual attacks as run of the mill assaults, murders etc. It has to be something big enough that the government cannot cover it up, and it has to be in a place that has huge propaganda value. The best possible place has got to be Hollywood or LA as you have the backdoor wide open for easy access. The population is highly conditioned to sympathize and therefore tend to turn their heads to suspicious activity. If I wanted the greatest French effect, the place I would hit is the largest area with the most cowards per acre. That rules out NY. They just get pissed and get even. Lots of Califiornian's scream surrender before they get touched.

They won't bomb New York again. Osama's a Rangers fan.

Oklahoma! I bet Bin Laden hates that musical...

They'll probably bomb someplace they think will truly put fear into our hearts by its mere location. Someplace that no one would have ever thought of, and likely someplace that I personally don't care one bit about save for the people that will end up dead. With that in mind, my bet/hope is Salt Lake City ;)

They'll probably bomb someplace they think will truly put fear into our hearts by its mere location. Someplace that no one would have ever thought of, and likely someplace that I personally don't care one bit about save for the people that will end up dead. With that in mind, my bet/hope is Salt Lake City ;)

Hmmm, wouldn't that be the same as bombing the the best view of the Western Dead Sea?

Perhaps they'll go to Detroit during the Super Bowl to wreak havoc on the public transit system. Won't they feel dumb when they find out there isn't one?

Actually, believe it or not during the cold war, Kansas was rated very very high on Moscows target list. Not only because of the butt load of our own launch sites but because of the psychological factor.
For Osama's purposes however, I doubt there is much that would serve his puropse here. The heart of America in his mind is without a doubt the area that represents which his religion hates the most, and what is the easiest to target. NY, Washington etc are too high risk right now leaving the only reasonable choice either LA or San Francisco. Of course for the surprise factor one cannot rule out Seattle, Portland or Honolulu, but these areas have less media saturation, therefore less propaganda value.

interesting theories, but Honolulu, while a tourist attraction, is isolated. I say Wall Street. the economic ripples would be felt around the world. it will also prove to all nations (affected or not) that America is weak and thus not worthy of allies.

I personally think that, if the US is attacked again, it will be in LA, the next largest city in the US.

Can't, however, rule out D.C. and Wall Street.

you make it sound like Wall Street is a city

He said they'll strike at America's heart...

....Kansas...? :confused:

"Several hundred cows were the victims of a bombing run by Al-Qaeda earlier today..."
when they say heart i think they mean metaphorically speaking the part that makes america work... so lets see that would be Washington for me guess then. :( why bring innocent people in stupid disputes? :(

interesting theories, but Honolulu, while a tourist attraction, is isolated. I say Wall Street. the economic ripples would be felt around the world. it will also prove to all nations (affected or not) that America is weak and thus not worthy of allies.

True to a degree about Honolulu's isolation, however, that isolation combined with it's highly diverse international tourist population ensures the widest international attention possible and still hits U.S. soil. It is easier for international types to gain entry and operatives would tend to attract less attention. It is easy to land materials in remote locations completely bypassing customs and official entry points. It presents unique problems in disaster assistence that make for recovery to be somewhat slower thus extending media coverage greatly. It has to be considered a prime target, but LA and San Franciso are probably easier and more closely represent "American Life" in the minds of someone who's perception is painted by TV.
As for Wall Street, they now know it is impossible to take down the US markets by blowing up a building. They are electronic trading systems for the most part and the lessons learned have made the entire area extremely high risk. Osama cannot afford failure and the NE part of the country provide the maximum amount of possibility for that. They will not attack anywhere near the strongest defense and the NE part of the country is stacked.

I say DC.
I'm not sure Bin Laden knows where I live.

This is an incredibly dangerous thread. Not only are we putting ideas into the minds of potential bombers, but if one of us happens to guess the right location the feds will be booting down his door within 15 hours.

I'd guess an embassy somewhere, not just the usually car bomb but something tacky and spectacular like a chemical attack.

It's not dangerous at all. The US government must do this sort of stuff extensively to secure the homeland. And besides...Terrorist leaders are not idiots. They are doctors and prominent members of the Royal Saudi family, and theologists. They can think this up for themselves.

"Where will be bombed in the US?"

They've concentrated on large cities before, so my guess is that they will strike next at some medium-sized city or town, something along the lines of Charlotte, NC or Alexandria, VA.

This is an incredibly dangerous thread. Not only are we putting ideas into the minds of potential bombers, but if one of us happens to guess the right location the feds will be booting down his door within 15 hours.

I'd guess an embassy somewhere, not just the usually car bomb but something tacky and spectacular like a chemical attack.

You're saying that a bunch of fanatical genii won't have thought of all of this before?

My odds would go on their not attacking the US directly for a long time. Right now the US is walking away from it's principles faster than ever which is a win for them.

True to a degree about Honolulu's isolation, however, that isolation combined with it's highly diverse international tourist population ensures the widest international attention possible and still hits U.S. soil. It is easier for international types to gain entry and operatives would tend to attract less attention. It is easy to land materials in remote locations completely bypassing customs and official entry points. It presents unique problems in disaster assistence that make for recovery to be somewhat slower thus extending media coverage greatly. It has to be considered a prime target, but LA and San Franciso are probably easier and more closely represent "American Life" in the minds of someone who's perception is painted by TV.
As for Wall Street, they now know it is impossible to take down the US markets by blowing up a building. They are electronic trading systems for the most part and the lessons learned have made the entire area extremely high risk. Osama cannot afford failure and the NE part of the country provide the maximum amount of possibility for that. They will not attack anywhere near the strongest defense and the NE part of the country is stacked.OBL and Al Quaida can afford to wait... and they can afford failure. How Many times has the WTF been attacked? I can remember three off hand including 9/11.

and the hitting of Wall Street is another Symbolistic hit at America's Greed and Decadence.

This is an incredibly dangerous thread. Not only are we putting ideas into the minds of potential bombers, but if one of us happens to guess the right location the feds will be booting down his door within 15 hours.

I'd guess an embassy somewhere, not just the usually car bomb but something tacky and spectacular like a chemical attack.
geez if they need ideas they wont come to NS for them. they will do what the professionals do...read a tom clancy book

OR pie!

I'd have a lot more respect for Al Qaeda if they resorted to terorist pieings. :)

OBL and Al Quaida can afford to wait... and they can afford failure. How Many times has the WTF been attacked? I can remember three off hand including 9/11.

and the hitting of Wall Street is another Symbolistic hit at America's Greed and Decadence.

I respectfully disagree. They cannot afford to wait. After breaking his long silence on the heals of suffering a devistating attack on his own command structure, it is absolutely essential that he reinforce his credibility among his own. Failing to carry out his latest threat within the next 30 to 60 days will draw into question his ability to even mount a serious attack. After 4 1/2 years of failed attempts his well is running dry. He very much needs a success to maintain his position and anywhere in the NE prestents a hazard to this.

I respectfully disagree. They cannot afford to wait. After breaking his long silence on the heals of suffering a devistating attack on his own command structure, it is absolutely essential that he reinforce his credibility among his own. Failing to carry out his latest threat within the next 30 to 60 days will draw into question his ability to even mount a serious attack. After 4 1/2 years of failed attempts his well is running dry. He very much needs a success to maintain his position and anywhere in the NE prestents a hazard to this.
while this is true for any standard Military, OBL and AQ tend not (IMHO) to operate among those structures. all that is needed is his presence to be made known, like through taped messages. the cells tend to plan things out and slowly the parts are drawn together.

OBL and his minions have had four years to find the easiest targets of opportunity in the US. I'm sure it hasn't been for the lack of trying that they have not been able to carry off a successful attack. It's just a matter of time before they find a target that will get them international attention and also be a target very easy to hit.
Crashing a dirty-bomb loaded light airplane into the crowd at the Super Bowl would be a major victory for OBL. But hopefully the military is very alert to that, and the attacking plane would be forced down, or shot down.
The goal of OBL is to have fear and paranoia take over the minds of the people he is attacking, so look for targets that will cause the most interuption in our daily lives.

Hollywood.




... and nobody will care.

After 4 1/2 years of failed attempts his well is running dry.

What failed attempts?

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the Houston area yet. It's a large city, a major port, one of the most important centers for the oil industry, moderately close to and downwind from a nuclear power plant, and symbolic due to close ties to some guy named Bush. It's considered to be a target according to some intelligence and news reports. Al Qaida has a history of waterborne attacks, making the port or ship channel (which are lined by some 150 chemical plants and refineries) . And they apparantly have a history of staging logistical support in the area, so their operatives know the area (Ahmad Ajaj and Omar Abu Ali, for example). And Al Qaida operatives have been arrested in the area, according to some news reports.


Some links on the subject:
http://www.petrifiedtruth.com/archives/001573.html
http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=234087
long link 1 (http://newsmine.org/archive/propoganda/terror-threats/2003/terrorists-possible-target-texas.txt)
long link 2 (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:NLYtc4HqJagJ:www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm%3Fnewsid%3D13864361%26BRD%3D1574%26PAG%3D461%26dept_id%3D532242%26rfi%3D6+houston+terrorism +target&hl=en)

Granted, these are a bit old, but still, Houston could easily be a juicy target. Especially as I understand the security there is not what it should be. (And don't start screaming that I'm giving the terrorists ideas - all indications are that they are already looking at Houston, and have been for come time.)

My WAG is that an attack against Houston would come in the form of a suicide boat bomb attack against a supertanker in the port or ship channel. The much dreaded cargo container is another possibility, but it's not their style. No nukes - if Al Qaida had access to one, it would have been used by now, not sitting around in some cave on the Afghan-Pakistan border. (And if it were, there would be serious questions about it's operability - you don't just leave a nuclear device sitting around exposed like that without proper maintanance and expect it to work.)

maybe I'm naive and overly optimistic. But I don't think al Qaeda will launch a successful attack on the continental US. At least, I don't think they will in the near future. I have no idea where they would attempt to bomb. White House seems most obvious, except that it is so well protected. Somewhere in CA perhaps? Still I am pretty (and possibly overly) confident that they will not succeed in an attack.

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the Houston area yet.

Good points all, however, having grown up and gone to school there, I think the frequency of very large things blowing up there would make it easy enough for the government to cover it up. Those folks are accustom to explosions that knock you out of bed every few months or so, and Texas City is right down the road if anyone knows their history of massive explosions. Granted running one of Monsanto's ammonium nitrate tankers up the ship channel and into Shell's storage facilities would alter the landscape for a few thousand years, but the loss of life would be minimal. I believe that loss of life is his first priority.

They may hit the Super Bowl XL.

They may hit the Super Bowl XL.

Shudders to think. Even though I have lost all respect for professional sports and the corportations that have ruined them, that is just about the worst case scenairo I can imagine. I bet the military is flying low and high cover over that one.

Maybe the terrorists will just go after the Canadian pharmaceutical industry again.

Good points all, however, having grown up and gone to school there, I think the frequency of very large things blowing up there would make it easy enough for the government to cover it up. Those folks are accustom to explosions that knock you out of bed every few months or so, and Texas City is right down the road if anyone knows their history of massive explosions. Granted running one of Monsanto's ammonium nitrate tankers up the ship channel and into Shell's storage facilities would alter the landscape for a few thousand years, but the loss of life would be minimal. I believe that loss of life is his first priority.

Grew up around there myself (down near Freeport, where a suposed terrorist was apparantly arrested while casing Dow Texas division's plant B a while back), which is why I think of it. One other point in it's favor is that it's not NYC, DC, or LA, and so may have a greater shock value.

If I were in charge of the op, I'd try a combo attack - hit the port and surrondings from the sea (and yep one of those Monsanto tankers would work as well as a crude oil supertanker) and hit downtown with a conventional truck bomb. Also, I might try and hit the South Texas Nuclear plant for added effect.

One other often forgotten target would be Boston harbor's LPG/LNG terminal or an LPG tanker in the port. An LPG or LNG tanker is potentially as pwerful as a small nuclear device. (And though security has been increased since 2001, it's still not really up to snuff, IMHO.

Well, I fear the obvious choice is Alaska, Anchorage to be specific, take out the Army Base and the Air Force Base here. Then take over the oil pipeline. The folks "guarding" our pipeline are armed with, I think, regulation cop weapons. Won't do much against military weaponry.
AND, since China has sooooooo many troops, along with Terrorist troops from other Nations, they could, as quickly as possible, rape this Great Land of our Gold, Silver, Copper, Garnets and various other Gem and Industrial Grade minerals.
Folks in The Lower 48 have no concept of how very WEALTHY this State is, in terms of Natural Resources. Oh, yes, I forgot to mention Coal, the Highest Grade Coal in the world. Gobzillions of tons of it.

And, during the Salmon runs in our rivers, I am not exaggerating when I say the rivers and creeks are so thick with salmon, you could walk across, on the salmon and never wet your feet.

Thousands of moose, thousands of caribou, thousands of ducks and geese to eat, as well as sheep and bear. During the Fall, hundreds of acres out "in the Bush" are solid blue with blue berries, red with raspberries and strawberries. No body, not even "City Folk", buy berries at the grocery store, here in Alaska.

Oh, yes, and I would advice Osama to cut a deal with Russia. In exchange for Military aid from Russia, The deal would be to return the Pribilof Islands to Russia. What's the big deal about the Pribilofs? FUR SEALS my friends, Half a MILLION Seals with Fur of a beauty and softness beyond description inhabit The Pribilofs.

The only good news is, because of the afore mentioned, it would be counter productive to actually NUKE Alaska.

As for "The Calvary Coming to the Rescue", well, you can't get here from there. Unless Canada will allow the U.S. to drive Military equipment across her border, then "The Cavalry" would have to come by Ship or Air.
And I do believe that most of our Ships are THOUSANDS of miles away, concentrated in the Middle East Area. Ditto our Air Support.

Yup, if I were Osama's advisor, the above is just what I would tell him. Cut a deal with China and Korea and Russia for support from them.

The entire State of Alaska is TWICE yes boys and girls I said TWICE the size of Texas.

Good thing I just love Korean Food, as well as Sushi and Sashimi,and a good, thick Borscht.

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