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Ex-Pentagon analyst sentenced to 12 years

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - A former Pentagon analyst was sentenced Friday to more than 12 years in prison for giving classified information to an Israeli diplomat and members of a pro-Israel lobbying group.

U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III said he gave Lawrence A. Franklin a sentence on the low end of federal guidelines because it appeared Franklin was trying help the United States, not hurt it.

The judge also agreed to let Franklin remain free while the government continues with the wider case. His prison time could be sharply reduced in return for his help in prosecuting two former members of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

Franklin - who had worked with top Pentagon officials, including Douglas Feith, former undersecretary of defense for policy, and has expertise on Iraq and Iran - pleaded guilty in October to three felony counts. Three other counts were dropped in exchange.

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/breaking_news/13672426.htm

U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III said he gave Lawrence A. Franklin a sentence on the low end of federal guidelines because it appeared Franklin was trying help the United States, not hurt it.
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I don't think I'll ever understand the way Americans see Israel...

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I don't think I'll ever understand the way Americans see Israel...

I guess the leniency was because they're an important ally in the Middle East. I'm guessing with a conflict with Iran brewing, the Americans might not want to annoy Israel any more than is absolutely neccessary - thus, the lenient sentence for the spying when it could have been so much worse.

And let's face it...Israel might want to know more about our governments inner thoughts, but I don't see them saboutaging stuff and commiting terrorist attacks here anytime soon.

I'm not too worried about this, the day Israel turns away from the U.S. will be the day Shooter Mcgavin eats pieces of shit for breakfast.

And let's face it...Israel might want to know more about our governments inner thoughts....and.... they might want to influence our decision making... like in sending US soldiers to Iraq, Iran or Syria ;)


Franklin - who had worked with top Pentagon officials, including Douglas Feith, former undersecretary of defense for policy, and has expertise on Iraq and Iran

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/breaking_news/13672426.htm

and.... they might want to influence our decision making... like in sending US soldiers to Iraq, Iran or Syria ;)

Lets get something straight. Israel didnt influence us sending troops into Iraq. Bush did, and I support him. Also, Israel isnt influencing anything right now with Iran, its on a inter American-European level right now and we are trying to figure out what the hell to do. Stop trying to use this ONE articule to enforce your global zionist conspiracy theory. lol.

Lets get something straight. Israel didnt influence us sending troops into Iraq.YEAH rigth..

Actually, you are wrong. In fact, many Israelis openly denounced the invasion of Iraq, fearing that a vital counterpoint to Iran would be lost.
Clicky (http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/3011)
Clicky 2 (http://www.alternet.org/story/30797/)

I'm sure you can find more on google.

I guess the leniency was because they're an important ally in the Middle East.
Still, no matter how close you are with an Ally: Spying on your country is by definition an act of hurting your own country in order to help another.

Seriously..."I'm going to spy on my country for its own good!"?

Still, no matter how close you are with an Ally: Spying on your country is by definition an act of hurting your own country in order to help another.

Seriously..."I'm going to spy on my country for its own good!"?

We know its bad, but were just saying nothing is going to break apart the American-Israeli relationship any time soon, its just too damn close and important.

We know its bad, but were just saying nothing is going to break apart the American-Israeli relationship any time soon, its just too damn close and important.
Hehehe...you sound almost like European Conservatives now:
"Yes, the Americans have been kicking us again and again, yes, they lie to us, yes, they torture and detain innocent people illegally....but we can't say anything. The relationship is just too damn close and important!"

Obviously Israel doesn't see this relationship as all it's made out to be and thinks it needs to do a bit extra on the side...it's the Americans' business whether they want to tolerate it, but I personally can't understand what sort of alliance this is meant to be.

Actually, you are wrong. In fact, many Israelis openly denounced the invasion of Iraq, fearing that a vital counterpoint to Iran would be lost.really?

answer this question.. which one of these known Jewish Politicians have "denounced" the NeoCon War?
What I have seen is that whenver they opened their mouth it was to cheer. They cheered every time we sent our men to kill and die in the Midle East...

Check list

Leiberman.
Paul Wolfowitz.
Kissinger.
John M. Deutch.
James Schlesinger.
Sandy Berger.
Larry Summers.
Ari Fleischer.
Michael Chertoff.
Ben Bernanke.
Pat Roberson (I know hes not a Jew..but its as if..)
Eugene Meyer.
James Wolfensohn.
Alan Greenspan.

Ben Bernanke.
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Alan Greenspan.
What?
Ran out of Jewish names, did you?

What?
Ran out of Jewish names, did you?No, there is more.. These are some of the public ones...

No I have many more.. Do you want more?
Neither of the two is a Politician. Bernanke in particular is an economist, no more. He wrote my first year textbook.

Implying that those two are neocon warhawks is bullshit, and even you would know that.

Hehehe...you sound almost like European Conservatives now:
"Yes, the Americans have been kicking us again and again, yes, they lie to us, yes, they torture and detain innocent people illegally....but we can't say anything. The relationship is just too damn close and important!"

Lol, I'm not even gonna begin to agree, lol, but I'm not gonna lie and say I didnt laugh :D

Obviously Israel doesn't see this relationship as all it's made out to be and thinks it needs to do a bit extra on the side...it's the Americans' business whether they want to tolerate it, but I personally can't understand what sort of alliance this is meant to be.

Israel supports America and loves our relationship, but more importantly, the Israeli people do and until you go there (as an American) you wont understand what I'm saying, its not something you can read in the paper or see on TV.

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I don't think I'll ever understand the way Americans see Israel...
To sum it up, "Israel kicks ass, Cuba sucks." I think that is an official policy.

Neither of the two is a Politician. Bernanke in particular is an economist, no more. He wrote my first year textbook.

Implying that those two are neocon warhawks is bullshit, and even you would know that.All I said is that he never "denounced" the illegal War.. or the other times we sent men to kill and die in the Middle-East.

Read my post...

If you have one Quote of him "denouncing" the Iraq Wars.. then you would have a point.

All I said is that he never "denounced" the illegal War.. or the other times we sent men to kill and die in the Middle-East.

Read my post...

If you have one Quote of him "denouncing" the Iraq Wars.. then you would have a point.

Who the hell is gonna care what an economist says about the war in Iraq. They are just gonna say, "stick to the number crunching".

Ben Bernanke.
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Alan Greenspan.

What?
Ran out of Jewish names, did you?IMO.. The Chairman of the US federal Reserve has almost as much policy Power as a President..

More power than a top Senator..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chairman_of_the_Federal_Reserve

To sum it up, "Israel kicks ass, Cuba sucks." I think that is an official policy.

Wait, let me see here. *mumbles underbreath to self* Yep! That seems 'bout right!

Ya know, between this and some other things of yours...I'm begining to think you're one of those "AHHH! Worldwide Jewish conspiracy" people.

Ya know, between this and that thread on how the death statistics at aushwitz changed based on evidence from some neo-nazi douchebag's website...I'm begining to think you're one of those "AHHH! Worlwide Jewish conspiracy" people.

see my post #7

Ya know, between this and that thread on how the death statistics at aushwitz changed based on evidence from some neo-nazi douchebag's website...I'm begining to think you're one of those "AHHH! Worlwide Jewish conspiracy" people.oh you are talking about the "must-be-photo-shopped" evidence...

Well I have news for you... the evidence is 100% legit.. the Pics prove some 2.5 million "vanished" @ the Aushwitz plate.

oh you are talking about the "must-be-photo-shopped" evidence...

Well I have news for you... the evidence is 100% legit.. the Pics prove some 2.5 million "vanished" @ the Aushwitz plate.
:rolleyes: The only evidence I found of this was on that nazi website..the real media (zionist controlled right?:rolleyes: ) came up blank.

..the real media (zionist controlled right?:rolleyes: ) came up blank.so?...What are you saying?.. are you saying that the "nazis" photo-shopped the pics?
if thats what you mean just say it.. quit turning in circles and just say it.

http://christianparty.net/holocaust4.gifhttp://christianparty.net/holocaust5.gif
Above left: This was the plaque on display at the Auschwitz camp until 1989: note the "4 million" victims. Above right: This is the plaque currently on display at Auschwitz (2002) - note the suddenly reduced number of victims to 1.5 million - a casual reduction in the number of deaths by 2.5 million which never appeared in the American "free press"

IMO.. The Chairman of the US federal Reserve has almost as much policy Power as a President..
But it's not political power.

Which is also why they should not support or denounce issues that don't concern the economy. It's got to do with game theory and so on and I won't go into the details, but it is important that the Guy who represents the decision-making process regarding interest rates stays out of politics.

They are not part of some NeoCon conspiracy.

But it's not political power.IMO Alan Greenspan (and the heir to his trone) holds great political power on the planet.. and as presidents come and Go... he is still there shaping the money politics of the world.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan

But... I give up anyways.. (me tired)

I retract Alan Greenspan (and his prince) from the list...

I don't know if they were photoshopped, but if this is only found on a nazi website it is at least taken out of context.

I don't know if they were photoshopped, but if this is only found on a nazi website it is at least taken out of context.I understand how Words can be taken out of context..

But how on earth can a picture be taken out of context?

Without a backstory, almost anything can be taken out of context. I think that should be fairly obvious.

Well I have news for you... the evidence is 100% legit.. the Pics prove some 2.5 million "vanished" @ the Aushwitz plate

So its ok if it was just 3.5 million? Rather a bizzarre attitude.