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Google, gov't in search spat

By ELIZABETH LAZAROWITZ and DANIEL DUNAIEF
DAILY NEWS BUSINESS WRITERS

Google co-founders Sergey Brin (l.) and Larry Page subpoenaed.

Google is rebuffing the government's demand for a peek at what millions of people have been looking up on the Internet's leading search engine - a request that raises concerns Big Brother may be watching a little too closely.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales this week asked a federal judge in San Jose for an order to force a handover of the requested records.

The government wants a list of all requests entered into Google's search engine during a single week - a breakdown that could span tens of millions of queries. In addition, it seeks one million randomly selected Web addresses from various Google databases.

The government says the information is vital to restore online child protection laws that have been struck down by the Supreme Court.

Privacy experts are concerned about the potential link connecting individuals with searches.

"We may well be living in a new era here in terms of governments and data flow," said Pam Dixon, the executive director of the nonprofit World Privacy Forum. "This subpoena could, if fulfilled as originally requested, definitely compromise the privacy of quite a few people."

Dixon said about 30% of searches are connectable to the searcher. Regardless of the outcome of the legal battle, Dixon advised people never to type their full name and social security number in a search.

Others expressed similar concerns.

"If you are registered with Google so you can use G-mail or some other bundled service and you search on Google, they can link your real identity to your search terms," said Kevin Bankston, a staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

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Do you think the government should get a hold of these records to stop porn?I believe this is all a bunch of shite.

They're just gonna get a list of porn stars' names from me...

*polishes aluminum bat*

Smile for the cameras, Mr. Alito. The press is gonna love your bloody face.

Wow, my speed-reading is very, very off. Wrong vote, don't bother.

Why the fuck is the justice department so worried about normal porn when they should be working on issues related to terrorism and the limits of presidential power? If they're going to target porn, why not concentrate on kiddy porn or something?

Why the fuck is the justice department so worried about normal porn when they should be working on issues related to terrorism and the limits of presidential power? If they're going to target porn, why not concentrate on kiddy porn or something?


they say they want to target kids looking at porn, and they also they this will keep those internet sex offenders away.


utter trash.

good for google though for saying a good old fuck you to the gov't.

What?
Of course they can't touch that information, we don't want the government tracking our every move do we?

EDIT: especially since they wanna stop porn, what the hell is wrong with porn? I think it's an excuse for the police to be able to watch porn themselves:p

Do you think the government should get a hold of these records to stop porn?I believe this is all a bunch of shite.
It's a perfectly ligitimate request. Child porn requires that children star in it in order for it to be, like ... CHILD porn.

It's a perfectly ligitimate request. Child porn requires that children star in it in order for it to be, like ... CHILD porn.
They're not really targeting child porn. They're targeting regular porn and using "kids might get a hold of it" as an excuse.

http://www.boingboing.net/2006/01/19/_doj_search_requests.html

And here is google telling them to go blow themselfs

Google has refused to comply with the subpoena.

i dont see where the problem is, if they get all search requests for a week, they just have a bunch of words and dont know who entered what, even if they did trace that to ips, they dont know who is behind which ip at what time. i dont see any privacy invasion there, that is like claiming that counting all votes endangers the secret ballot.
hell, my government forced me to undergo an exam by a government doctor, complete with fondling the balls, urin test and everything to be put into my file. now THAT is an invasion of privacy.

i dont see where the problem is, if they get all search requests for a week, they just have a bunch of words and dont know who entered what, even if they did trace that to ips, they dont know who is behind which ip at what time. i dont see any privacy invasion there, that is like claiming that counting all votes endangers the secret ballot.
hell, my government forced me to undergo an exam by a government doctor, complete with fondling the balls, urin test and everything to be put into my file. now THAT is an invasion of privacy.
It has been proven if they find an ip and a time range they can mandate the ISP to identify the account using that IP at that time

The RIAA Does it all the time

They're not really targeting child porn. They're targeting regular porn and using "kids might get a hold of it" as an excuse.

and, given the context of everything else going on, it is fairly safe to say that they aren't just targeting regular porn.

they say they want to target kids looking at porn, and they also they this will keep those internet sex offenders away.
And there was me thinking they just fancy setting a legal precedent for the government wading into the internet with big boots on.

and, given the context of everything else going on, it is fairly safe to say that they aren't just targeting regular porn.
IslamicBabes.org? Jihadgirls.com?

and, given the context of everything else going on, it is fairly safe to say that they aren't just targeting regular porn.
Well they probably have a few things that they're going after, but it's a fact that several internet porn providers have been shut down lately.

IslamicBabes.org? Jihadgirls.com?
http://www.photographersdirect.com/news/200404images/9.jpg

Dude, you can totally see part of her face! That's so fucking hot!

http://www.photographersdirect.com/news/200404images/9.jpg

Dude, you can totally see part of her face! That's so fucking hot!
Wow dude! I think I can see part of her nose!

Well they probably have a few things that they're going after, but it's a fact that several internet porn providers have been shut down lately.
After all, if the kids are wanking then that's squirting semen into the face of this true love waits bullshit about abstinence the chimp thinks is a reasonable substitute for sex education, isn't it?

After all, if the kids are wanking then that's squirting semen into the face of this true love waits bullshit about abstinence the chimp thinks is a reasonable substitute for sex education, isn't it?
I thought porn was sexual education. :confused:

Honestly I don't like it but I don't think it's illegal because the internet IS a public domain. It will be like someone following you into the library and watching what you check out. Creepy but not illegal. I don't want them to but I have no right to deny them because it is already public.

No

Honestly I don't like it but I don't think it's illegal because the internet IS a public domain. It will be like someone following you into the library and watching what you check out. Creepy but not illegal. I don't want them to but I have no right to deny them because it is already public.this is more like forcing a bookstore to provide the list of who bought what. it creates direct costs for the bookstore, because they have to pay someone to prepare the records. also the bookstore loses credit with his customers, as they must fear their privacy is in danger when buying at that store. so the bookstore has expenditures and the value of their company would go down too because of worsened prospects for making profit.

IslamicBabes.org? Jihadgirls.com?


http://www.photographersdirect.com/news/200404images/9.jpg

Dude, you can totally see part of her face! That's so fucking hot!

LOL that made my day. I think im just easy to amuse.

Stop trying to regulate the internet Big Brother. Thank You.

Love,

Dragons with Guns

they gave a similar subpoena to yahoo

yahoo complied

Google was also saying that by giving the gov't their records it could give away vital info about their business that they don't want their competitors to get their hands on.

I didn't hear what it was they coudl have gotten though.

they gave a similar subpoena to yahoo

yahoo complied
MSN did too.

I thought porn was sexual education. :confused:
This is why Bush doesn't want kids to be able to see any of it on the internet I'd imagine: some of it is at odds with his whole "don't fuck before marriage or you'll go to Hell," routine. (Some of what's on there possibly isn't, but I doubt the average teenager is going to be looking for pictures of amputees shitting on each other...)