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Everything wrong with Christianity

Ardu
16-01-2006, 00:01
Here is everything wrong with Christianity:


It promotes sexism
If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?
It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyed
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?


Feel free to reply if you disagree with any of this, and why.
[NS:::]Elgesh
16-01-2006, 00:04
Oh, friend... I know it's a quietish day on the forums, but a post like this...:rolleyes: It's a bit immature, isn't it? :(
DrunkenDove
16-01-2006, 00:15
The only thing wrong with Christianity is that it's a religion when it should be history.
Damor
16-01-2006, 00:19
What, that's all you could find?

1. It promotes sexismDepends on how you interpret it. Some pieces could definitely be seen as quite opposite.

2. If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?That way they have a chance to repent, rather that simply stop existing (obviously they can't go to heaven untill they actually want to be with God).

3. It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyedSo? Maybe all religions are wrong and should be destroyed. They go a long way to being right there then, don't they.

4. If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?Does it say anywhere he didn't create those?

Come on, you can do better, surely.
Luporum
16-01-2006, 00:22
The same thing wrong with every other religion.

It was made in a time when things we consider bad were once good. Inflexibility and superstition go a long way.
Super-power
16-01-2006, 00:22
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Gaithersburg
16-01-2006, 00:24
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I agree whole heartedly.

(Did I spell that right?)
The Strogg
16-01-2006, 00:27
I don't personally believe in god. But like a good scientist, I'm not closed off to the idea. And if there is a god, I can think of at least one serious mistake he/she/it made when creating the human race:

The inexplicably overwhelming desire to talk about religion on forums, no matter the consequences!
Theorb
16-01-2006, 00:31
Here is everything wrong with Christianity:


It promotes sexism
Only when people don't read the whole thing, the Bible does say wives should be submissive to husbands, but in another part says that husbands should love their wives just as Christ loved the church, due to all Christians belonging to the body of Christ. If a husband loves their wife as Christ loved us, then there is no excuse for abuse by a husband in such a relationship, or for a husband to do anything mean or bad to their wife.
If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?
Because that infinite love and mercy stems from His infinite goodness, which also has infinite justice inside there. If He did not condemn evil, then he would be like a judge saying "I see here you've murdered 50 people, tried to assasinate the president, and nearly instigated the 3rd world war. Ah well, go out there and have some more fun, who am I to know right and wrong, eh?"
It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyed
If your saying it is promoting a fact, then it sounds like you are advocating for the destruction of something you know to be fact, thats like trying to erase all knowledge of the earth being round even when you know it is quite round. If, as I suspect, your saying that it promotes itself as a fact above everything else and that this is somehow bad, then that is akin to saying to scientists "You are trying to promote the earth being round as a fact, you and your information should be destroyed!" This would be problamatic at best i'd think. Applying it to religion just in case someone tries to argue my argument is equating religion with science and that somehow this is not valid, many religions and/or belief systems would say that any religion with human sacrifices in it is bad, and there were many religions like that a long time ago, so by your argument all religions which call other religions bad for having human sacrifices should be destroyed. this could be applied to many horrid things besides human sacrifices, but the point is, by your argument, any religion which objects to another for any reason whatsoever is bad. This could mean that religion today could consist entirely of sacrificing half our population for some ridiculous reason, since anyone challenging those old religions would be hauled off.
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?
Galaxies are made up of alot of stars for one, and Genesis never says God didn't create all the other planets, it would seem God just didn't want to tell us when exactly He made them, but it seems pretty obvious that they were indeed made at some point. One might call this deceptive through witholding information, except nowhere does the Bible say God has a grand commision to tell us everything about everything, if He did have such a commision He would of been obligated to instruct humanity on how to build and use nukes, and then we'd probably of blown up a sizeable portion of the earth's surface very early in history.


Feel free to reply if you disagree with any of this, and why.

Feel free to reply to this if you disagree with anything im saying, and why :)
Pepe Dominguez
16-01-2006, 00:32
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?


Feel free to reply if you disagree with any of this, and why.

Gee, you'd have to read an entire paragraph into the Bible to refute this one.. too much work for me.. :p
Free Mercantile States
16-01-2006, 00:35
This was a seriously bad choice of names for a thread - is a flame war your purpose here?
Avika
16-01-2006, 00:41
1. Anyone who actually understands what it says would say that it is against sexism.
2. If justice is supposed to be good, why do bad people go to jail? I mean, sure, they made a choice to disobey the law, just as those in hell chose to be away from god, but good isn't supposed to bring unhappiness.
3. One could say the same thing about atheism or Judaism. Heck, It's al quieda's reasoning with the Koran.
4. Nowhere does it say that he didn't. Maybe the author didn't think we'd care or maybe he/she(most likely them) thought that we'd figure it out with the clues they gave us.
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 00:42
Here is everything wrong with Christianity:


It promotes sexism
If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?
It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyed
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?


Feel free to reply if you disagree with any of this, and why.

Hi Im new to the board, but as a humanist, (BELIEVER IN PEOPLE AND SCIENCE) I feel that all religions are The reason that the human race is still rather technologically, and sociologically unadvanced. PEOPLE USE RELIGION'S TO EXPLAIN THINGS THAT THEY CAN NOT OR WILL REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND

I see the truth behind their lies.
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 00:45
In addition to my prior comments, i am not however opposed to the existence of superior being. Although i find the idea that there is 1 supreme being very unlikely.
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 00:45
In addition to my prior comments, i am not however opposed to the existence of superior being. Although i find the idea that there is 1 supreme being very unlikely.
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 00:45
In addition to my prior comments, i am not however opposed to the existence of superior being. Although i find the idea that there is 1 supreme being very unlikely.
Theorb
16-01-2006, 00:46
We probably could not compleatly understand how to make the judicial system of many governments without laws often coming somewhat from religious books, and without a judiciary you can forget about science because everything would either be anarachy or close to it. Technically, with us having a concience and all, we might do a relatively good job of inventing a judicial standard all alone, but that is a very big 'might'.
[NS]Simonist
16-01-2006, 00:58
Hi Im new to the board, but as a humanist, (BELIEVER IN PEOPLE AND SCIENCE) I feel that all religions are The reason that the human race is still rather technologically, and sociologically unadvanced. PEOPLE USE RELIGION'S TO EXPLAIN THINGS THAT THEY CAN NOT OR WILL REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND

I see the truth behind their lies.[/quote

[QUOTE=Sci-Fi Lovers]In addition to my prior comments, i am not however opposed to the existence of superior being. Although i find the idea that there is 1 supreme being very unlikely.
So basically, you're saying that though you see past the lies of religion, you're willing to go with the idea of.....religion? You think we're "unadvanced" because of our stubborn belief in a superior being, as you say, but the you're not willing to oppose the existence of this being?

Sounds like a fence-sitter more than a humanist. How long have you actually studied (not practiced, STUDIED) humanism, anyway?
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 01:02
Simonist'][quote=Sci-Fi Lovers]Hi Im new to the board, but as a humanist, (BELIEVER IN PEOPLE AND SCIENCE) I feel that all religions are The reason that the human race is still rather technologically, and sociologically unadvanced. PEOPLE USE RELIGION'S TO EXPLAIN THINGS THAT THEY CAN NOT OR WILL REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND

I see the truth behind their lies.[/quote


So basically, you're saying that though you see past the lies of religion, you're willing to go with the idea of.....religion? You think we're "unadvanced" because of our stubborn belief in a superior being, as you say, but the you're not willing to oppose the existence of this being?

Sounds like a fence-sitter more than a humanist. How long have you actually studied (not practiced, STUDIED) humanism, anyway?


Before you try and counter me, prove that your religion is DIVINE and that your god EXISTS, ohn thats right you can't prove either. at least i can prove the world was not created in 7 days and that all religions were written by ancient men in a much simpler time.
Lyon county
16-01-2006, 01:10
foolish idiots i worship the toothfairy;)
[NS:::]Prolificacy
16-01-2006, 01:12
Here is everything wrong with Christianity:


It promotes sexism
If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?
It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyed
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?


Feel free to reply if you disagree with any of this, and why.

Here is everything wrong with Humanity, and to a degree all Life.

1) It is sexist.
2) If we wish to propagate, why do we destroy that which helps? If we don't, why do we still exist?
3) We have our own opinions differing from others, but we believe all others are 'flawed'.
4) If we are the top of the chain, why are we still unhappy? If we're not, who do we have to kill to reach it?

Christianity is the mind of the limited trying to understand the mind of the unlimited, through a limited translator; but then, so is every other Religion.

Even if the unlimited mind doesn't actually exist.
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 01:13
Prolificacy']Here is everything wrong with Humanity, and to a degree all Life.

1) It is sexist.
2) If we wish to propagate, why do we destroy that which helps? If we don't, why do we still exist?
3) We have our own opinions differing from others, but we believe all others are 'flawed'.
4) If we are the top of the chain, why are we still unhappy? If we're not, who do we have to kill to reach it?

Christianity is the mind of the limited trying to understand the mind of the unlimited, through a limited translator; but then, so is every other Religion.

Even if the unlimited mind doesn't actually exist.


I agree
[NS]Simonist
16-01-2006, 01:14
Before you try and counter me, prove that your religion is DIVINE and that your god EXISTS, ohn thats right you can't prove either. at least i can prove the world was not created in 7 days and that all religions were written by ancient men in a much simpler time.
I don't have to prove shit. It's not my job to prove religion because I couldn't fucking care less if you believe in God or not. It's your choice....all I'm saying is that you don't seem to understand your OWN beliefs, which is something I'm not suffering from.

How daft are you? 7 DAYS? No, not even the most fundamental of Catholics believe the 7 day thing. Everybody knows that the "7 day" parable was used at a time that they didn't have a concept of eons or ages. Seriously, seriously, do some fucking RESEARCH before you try to trick me.

What's with the freakin' n00bs day out on the forum? They think we haven't seen these topics over and over and over?
[NS:::]Prolificacy
16-01-2006, 01:15
at least i can prove the world was not created in 7 days and that all religions were written by ancient men in a much simpler time.

Ooh, I like a good theory. Prove yours and I'm sure we can all shred it :)
Eruantalon
16-01-2006, 01:15
Here is everything wrong with Christianity:


It promotes sexism
If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?
It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyed
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?


Feel free to reply if you disagree with any of this, and why.
I know Christians who don't believe in sexism, moral absolutism, creationism or even hell.
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 01:20
[QUOTE='[NS]Simonist']


Before you try and counter me, prove that your religion is DIVINE and that your god EXISTS, ohn thats right you can't prove either. at least i can prove the world was not created in 7 days and that all religions were written by ancient men in a much simpler time.


WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RELIGION, BUT NOT THE IDEA OF A SUPERIOR BEING
GOLDDIRK
16-01-2006, 01:20
And muslims are so Beautiful at heart...Dumb Ass. :rolleyes:
Free Mercantile States
16-01-2006, 01:22
Hi Im new to the board, but as a humanist, (BELIEVER IN PEOPLE AND SCIENCE) I feel that all religions are The reason that the human race is still rather technologically, and sociologically unadvanced. PEOPLE USE RELIGION'S TO EXPLAIN THINGS THAT THEY CAN NOT OR WILL REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND

I see the truth behind their lies.

[gives many cookies]
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 01:23
Prolificacy']Ooh, I like a good theory. Prove yours and I'm sure we can all shred it :)

1. FOSSILS
2. ANY 1 CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY THE ROMANS AND THEIR EMPEROR CONSTANTINE. IF YOU WANT MORE CHECK GOOGLE AND TYPE THE NAME OF ANY RELIGIOUS BOOK
[NS]Simonist
16-01-2006, 01:26
WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RELIGION, BUT NOT THE IDEA OF A SUPERIOR BEING
Ah, but is that what you ACTUALLY said? No. You could've just as easily done that from the first time, and would I have called you out on your earlier poor presentation of this idea.

Besides, I still argue that you don't fully understand humanism. I mean I'm not even a humanist -- that system didn't appeal to me in the least -- but something tells me I've probably learned more about it than you. All I'm saying is, if you're going to follow a system of beliefs, you should know what it's about beyond just "believer in people and science", because it's far beyond that, and many of us would know that.
[NS:::]Prolificacy
16-01-2006, 01:33
1. FOSSILS
2. ANY 1 CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY THE ROMANS AND THEIR EMPEROR CONSTANTINE. IF YOU WANT MORE CHECK GOOGLE AND TYPE THE NAME OF ANY RELIGIOUS BOOK

Ok, Fossils.

1) The only basis of explanation we have for Fossils is that, according to current theory, Dinosaurs may have lived in ancient times.
2) The Brontosaurus. Google that to see how wrong we have already been.
3) How does the existence of Fossils disprove Religion? In the case of the Bible, maybe they were just omitted. It's quite possible that beyond the Garden of Eden there were actually Dinosaurs, if they did exist. Given that the concepts of Language and Writing were somewhat difficult to derive when you are being chased by Mr Rex himself; it would be likely.
4) Fossils may yet be a hoax.

The Bible

1) It may have been re-written by Constantine. It was also added to by numerous other sources. This does not disprove it.
2) Given that the Bible is simply a Tenet of Beliefs; it does not constitute a Religion per se.
3) Given the Romans were reknowned Polytheists; doesn't it seem strange they would have created a Pacifist Monotheistic Religion?
4) How would the mind of an Immortal comprehend the mind of a mortal?
5) Belief in itself is not negative. Enforcing it is a negative thing.

Oh, and as for using the Internet to check facts; The entire history of the Ninja is on www.realultimatepower.net.

Summary : If the Bible is fake, then all media written afterwards, including the ones you have learnt from, are equally as likely to be fake.
Dark Shadowy Nexus
16-01-2006, 01:43
Here is everything wrong with Christianity:


It promotes sexism
If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?
It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyed
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?


Feel free to reply if you disagree with any of this, and why.

I'm an atheist. and I still see this argument as flawed.
Adriatitca
16-01-2006, 01:46
It promotes sexism.

Prove it?


If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?

If people want life without God, then thats what they get. Hell is the world without God


It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyed

It promotes that other religions are wrong, but not to destory them.


If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?


He created the Heavens (The sky and the celestial heavens)
Adriatitca
16-01-2006, 01:49
PEOPLE USE RELIGION'S TO EXPLAIN THINGS THAT THEY CAN NOT OR WILL REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND

I see the truth behind their lies.

Can you please tell me what it is that the life, death and resurection of Jesus is desingend to explain that we dont now understand?
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 01:59
Can you please tell me what it is that the life, death and resurection of Jesus is desingend to explain that we dont now understand?

You obviously dont know much about your own religion.
[NS]Simonist
16-01-2006, 02:02
You obviously dont know much about your own religion.
Pot. Kettle. Black.

You know, circular accusations don't earn you respect on this forum. Adriatitca asked a simple question based off of your own accusation from the start -- the RESPECTABLE thing to do would be to answer it, since you allegedly had the idea from the beginning.
Intracircumcordei
16-01-2006, 02:04
I do not so much agree but I do not so much disagree, faith and religion is interpretation.

Many well estabished religions have a tradition, but even today different 'scholars be it rabi's or a host of other names for various scholars exist to extend the teachings, they themselves are acting as 'miniprophets'.. or atleast religious theohistorians.

We all interpret our meanings as granted by the will of the almighty. We have a choice to disern but we must remember that our own exposure language in learning, translations and interpretations, as well as the the authors of many texts all come from different places and underwent different experiences.

Religions themselves have changed.

Judaism has had many different flavours.. take for instance the jewish Talmund it was written after the time of Mohammed if I am not mistaken. The new testament from the dead sea scrolls in part, and the Torah/Old Testament said to be a compliation of jewish history from their origins in babylon/Chaledea.

Christianity is about the gospel of christ. Christ says do good to others, but only help those who truely need the assistance. Save those who cannot help themselves. That is the teaching of the Christ as understood.

The churches and the roman empires adoption of christianity came latter, and in rome the eventual catholic church is the adaption of paul, there were originally two 'cults' or sects in rome the paulists won out.

The dogma and edits of the church are not seen as coming from 'the g-d christ' , they come from individuals who are given the authority to determine the policies of the church. The roman church has a very odd history and they are the followers of the 'heritage left behind, but they were more so judges than they were prophets. The roman empire has it's heritage as the pontifex, true christians and chatolics may appear differential. Where as the breaks of the church into the major protestant, orthodox and anglican all have their own histories (and many others) and there are some other churches as well in africa and the middle east that have their histories. They all claim to be christians and all have their own teachings, some common. We should remember christ himself said do not follow me. Where as the origins of Jehova said to not worship idols.

If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?

What is hell? Enlightenment and difference, the oneness of g-d as far as the Post temple periods.. the idea g-d is everywhere but is unseen etc.. original jewish religion strikes in a way of atheism that had a heavy dose of kabbalah. But there are a variety of other 'worships' by the ancestory of the jews.. that all goes back to history.. the 'jews' were polytheistic a number of times in their history. However to use the word jew may be eronious, as jews technically should be reserved for YWH, to understand you have to understand.

Jews don't beleive in 'hell'. So obviously they are saved innately but they must bear the responsibility for their actions that is what barmitzvah is about.
With that you hopefully understand.

Really you make your own experience, so if you choose to deceive yourself to falicy then perhaps you will cause yourself torment when you desire, or are still alive, rather in the body of christ or the child of jehova as a jew. But The truth transends the cults... if you know you know.. there was a time when religion was culture.. time has made new practices and ideas of 'faith' and beleif, it is ever presence, have peace in mind knowing that you will understand with time, you have no reason to fear.

I don't recall it saying other religions are 'wrong', there are times as to say, I get jealous when you worship other g-ds.. or I'm going to erradicate these people etc.. etc... I'm not convinced it is because they are religions just because they arn't good business.. and for that matter.. in the case of christianity only religions that existed that far back could be targeted.. we just don't know about the rest... :)


If G-d created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?

Are you a scientologist.. how do you know they exists.. maybe all themlights are really angels.. and the planets arch angels... etc.. etc..

It is all interpretation.. but to say everything in existance stems from us, and we are the will of g-d.

This reminds me of the questions in .. 'the way' the new american bible etc...
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This is all my opinion of course.. I am an everythingist.. I allow truth to show itself, with time all contradictions will correct themselves, in paradox, or freedom.


All that matters if that you have a good heart, and that your purpose is to bring goodness to the world.
Sci-Fi Lovers
16-01-2006, 02:07
Here is your awnser

1. Do you believe the world was created in 7 days
2. Do you believe that Jesus was able to heal people magically.
3. Do you believe God spoke to Moses.
4. Wasnt Jesus Jewish anyway
[NS]Simonist
16-01-2006, 02:11
Here is your awnser

1. Do you believe the world was created in 7 days
2. Do you believe that Jesus was able to heal people magically.
3. Do you believe God spoke to Moses.
4. Wasnt Jesus Jewish anyway
*cough*
The question was:
Can you please tell me what it is that the life, death and resurection of Jesus is desingend to explain that we dont now understand?

None of your "answers" have anything to do with that.

1 is irrelevant to Christianity. 2 is irrelevant to Christianity. 3 is OT and therefore not directly relevant to Christianity (we follow more the NT). 4 is irrelevant to Christianity.
Nosas
16-01-2006, 02:11
Here is everything wrong with Christianity:


It promotes sexism

Sexism?
God doesn't promote discrimination due to sex. Unless you have a strange defination of sexism.
Usually sexism has three tenets:
1. hatred of woman: God isn't for that. He loves woman men equally.
2. one sex (read gender) is better than other. Never does he say that. He does say in certain ways one is better at another, but the reverse is also true.
In general men make better cooks than woman do, but many woman are fantastic cooks. Just because one is naturally better at something doesn't mean a woman can't do it if she works at at it.
3. Women and men are different. Which is true, but no need to make laws about it. And god does not make laws, right to sex, etc based on this.


If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?

If you dad/mom loves you; why have you been punished for bad deeds?
Because he loves you he punishes you. Otherwise you'll have no respect of laws, society, or yourself.

Hell is subjective. What do you mean by hell?
Some people think earth is hell so the meaning of your term matters.

1) Now if you mean hell as final eternity for those who are as wicked as can vbe and reside with the devil? I refer to that as Outer Darkness. You can't make it without knowledge of God.

You have to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. You have to have all this knowledge and turn away from it. Not an easy task. You can't do that while being lazy because you have to actively do this. Few people will know something is right and turn away from it for no good reason.
Judas and cain is a good example though of what Outer Darkness requires. No aethist will ever make it due to lack of knowledge in Gospel of God.

2) Hell as punishment for sins on earth unforgiven? I refer to that as Spirit Prison. You have to pay for your deeds just like a time out. This can range from a 100 years there or a 1000 years (eternal punishment is whatever God deems fit so it can be as little or as large as crimes require). After that you will be placed in whatever kingdom you belong.
This will be most sinners because anyone can sin and not try to be sorry about it. Repentance takes work: you have to be sorry about doing it, Try to make up fgor it when appropriate, have a sincere heart, and promise not to do it again.


It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyed

God has never promoted to destroy other religions. All religions have pieces of the truth, but some of more than others. Now I believe mine has the most, but that doesn't mean others don't have a few.
[quote]
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?

He created those too. Who says he lives on earth. There are billions of planets he can live on.
Disraeliland 3
16-01-2006, 11:10
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?

All that work was outsourced to me, and a few people I know. God signed the contracts himself right in front of me.
Smunkeeville
16-01-2006, 13:21
I'm an atheist. and I still see this argument as flawed.
I was debating with myself, do I reply and let this crap go back to the first page, or do I leave it alone? I think I decided to reply, it was interesting to see the back and forth...... oh, and yeah, I agree with you, it's flawed. I mean if you want some real arguements against Christainity they aren't so hard to find. ;)

It promotes sexism.
not really. Some people use the Bible to promote their agenda, that is true, but Christianity in general is based on Jesus' teachings, and He wasn't sexist at all. In fact, one of His closest friends was a prostitute,repented of course,but she still wasn't a "socially acceptable" person for anyone to be hanging out with at the time, much less someone who claims to be the Messiah.

If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?
because they want to.

It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyedinteresting, do you have a source for this or any scriptural backing for this statement? (the "destroyed" part, I won't argue the "wrong" part, because Christianity isn't the only religion that thinks it's the "only truth")




If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?
God.
Adriatitca
16-01-2006, 13:47
You obviously dont know much about your own religion.

Elaborate before you make rediculous acusations. Again, explain how the life, death and resurection of Jesus expalins something we dont understand at present?
Yukonuthead the Fourth
16-01-2006, 15:15
Here is everything wrong with Christianity:


It promotes sexism
If God loves everyone and is merciful, then why do people go to hell?
It promotes the fact that other religions are wrong, and should be destroyed
If God created the Earth, the Sun and the stars, then where did all these other planets, galaxies etc. come from?


Feel free to reply if you disagree with any of this, and why.
Most of this stuff has been corrupted by the Catholic interpretation of the Bible, so any fundamentalist views are usually because of the Vatican's editing.
Intracircumcordei
16-01-2006, 19:20
Here is your awnser

1. Do you believe the world was created in 7 days
2. Do you believe that Jesus was able to heal people magically.
3. Do you believe God spoke to Moses.
4. Wasnt Jesus Jewish anyway


6 days the 7th was a day of rest (the sabbath)

7 days is also 7000 years

and 1000 years is an eternty

7 also is = to zayin (z)

Remember words have more meaning then just there loosest meaning.. for instance what does an abstract word mean? If you learn kabbalah and sacred classical hebrew and the history ect.. meanings may take on more meaning.


Supernatural powers were much more common in the past it is not till 1000 years later that things start to dry out.. but even witch burning etc.. held on until the 1700's or so.


I feel everyon is the will of g-d they all express what is meant to be known, but we must listen to each others hearts not the vibrations of sound but the true meanings. Moshe brought together the JEWS during the exodus the will of g-d is what allowed that. I assume people just have these inclinations to mystfy and place expectations on occurance. It Moshe thought those things.. it was the will of g-d to grant them and allowed the JEWS to unite.

Jesus was no ordinary JEW he was apparently the only surviving jew of a solar year in which a massacre of the new born children took place.

If anything that could be a paranormal spur to the powers Jesus had.. there are other hidden meanings there as well, such as the holiness of the mother, Mary, for whatever unknown reason.
New Genoa
16-01-2006, 19:32
2. ANY 1 CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY THE ROMANS AND THEIR EMPEROR CONSTANTINE. IF YOU WANT MORE CHECK GOOGLE AND TYPE THE NAME OF ANY RELIGIOUS BOOK

*Bursts out laughing*

Can you provide any proof of this - specifically, from a real source and not Google? You are aware that one-half of the Bible (OT) is several thousand years older than the Roman empire?
Avika
16-01-2006, 19:46
If you read the bible, you'd know that:

1. Christianity isn't about hating women. Jesus wanted us to love everybody, inclusing women. Christianity revolves around what he said.

2. If people don't want to live with god, he kicks them out of where he lives. Hell is the only place where god isn't. It's reserved for those who want to be there.

3. atheism is the belief that there is no god. Does atheism want atheists to destroy all religions? Does Islam want muslims to blow up churches? Oh, I forgot. Christianity is the only religion that can be used for propoganda. It's the only one that has been used as an excuse for terrorism.

4. Since the heavens technicly is space, god created the universe and everything in it, even if that means he kicked the massball so that it exploded, causing the big bang.
Intracircumcordei
17-01-2006, 16:54
*Bursts out laughing*

Can you provide any proof of this - specifically, from a real source and not Google? You are aware that one-half of the Bible (OT) is several thousand years older than the Roman empire?

well not the english versions.. the OT was said to be composed of Babylonian history and compiled over a number of different ages.. for instance the main part of it is when isreal(jews) were a kingdom (sorta) arond 1000 bce, however there are some issues, such as the loss of the hebrew language, when they were taken back to babylon as subjects... it was preserved in writting to some extent but largely other languages took over.
Ashurit script was used in the original torah (tanahk) but was said to be forgotten until ezra

The old testament is an edited version of Jewish documents up until around 300 BCE which is the roman era. However there have been translations out of the original script which is archaic.

The roman empire is a unitarian pontifex religious system that is they amalgamate the religions of areas they conquer.


I wouldn't use the term OT to denote age.. as it was edited over the years with some things discared and new concepts added.

THE OT is like a gimpy version of the jewish (cultural religious history etc..) books.

The new testament is a completely different story.
Gracio-Romano Ruslan
17-01-2006, 17:28
2. If justice is supposed to be good, why do bad people go to jail?
because while god may or may not be forgiving, the public sure as hell arn't (E.G. Vigilanteism [sp], tabloid newspapers)