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Pornography: An attempt at an intelligent discussion (But I'm not holding my breath)

Klonor
14-01-2006, 01:50
As a teenage male not suffering from any mental diseases, I consider pornography to be one of Gods greatests gifts to the Universe. It's right up there with sliced bread and electricity. Simply hours and hours of fun. It's entertaining, instructional, and sometimes it's pretty darn funny. But, do we ever consider what it's like for the people who make pornography?

In regular movies (and television) it's become almost standard for people to associate actors and actresses with the characters they play. If you're walking down the street and you see an actor one of your first thoughts is "Oh, look, it's Cordelia from Angel." or "Hey, wasn't that guy in Die Hard?" maybe even "Dude, I loved him in The Wrath of Kahn!". It's only after you get over your initial shock at seeing a celebrity that you begin to recall that persons real name, what they act like in real life, and what they've done recently (besides acting). For most actors it's not that big of a deal, probably a little irritating to be always known as "That guy on that TV show that used to be that channel with the stuff" but not very detrimental to their lives. I mean seriously, I doubt even todays public could think you're really a robot sent back in time. Plus, most actors have at least a tiny bit of range. They might always be in action flicks, but they switch between being the good guy and the bad guy. They might sometimes do an emotional movie or a comedy. It's hard to have only one view of an actor, since they've often been good & bad, funny & serious, a man & a woman (Hey, some movies are just weird). But with pornography it's a whole different story.

Most porn movies are about one thing: sex (duh). Whether they're pretending to be serious (Displaying real life sexual situations) or pretending to be funny (Showing only the most improbable of events) there's still that one theme running through it: sex. So, the actors are all associated with one thing: sex, and the thing is that it actually is believable that the actors have sex a lot. It's a normal part of real life (Unlike prehistoric lizards breathing fire) and it's easy to associate it with real people. So, when you see a porn star walking down the stree you think "Hot damn, she was in..... (Okay, I can't think of any titles right now)" then you think "Man, I could probably get with her! She has to be loose!" Now, I'm the first to admit that the evidence does point to porn stars not exactly being puritanical in their daily lives, but the evidence in Junior points to Arnold being able to get pregnant and that's just unlikely. Just because they're in porn doesn't mean that they're willing to sleep with every single person who walks by them in the street. But society views them as such. No matter what they're like in real life, all porn actors are believed to be nothing but nymphomaniacs in reality. Admit it, you've thought it yourself at least once.

Anyway, I don't really have anything more to say along these lines, but I just want you to think about it. Whatever your personal opinion on pornography is (And I know many people who object to it whole-heartedly) don't automaically transfer those opinions to the people in pornography. They're normal people who act normally, and treat them as such.
Theorb
14-01-2006, 02:10
Before I say anything, I'd like to know, which God are we referring to here? (Your second sentence) It seems to me Matthew 5:27-28 cuts out the Biblical definition here. I'm not saying you personally ever lusted after porn because, well, you didn't say you did, so there's no good reason for me to say a thing about it referring to you personally, but im just asking since calling it a God-given gift really does throw what your saying up a bunch of levels conversation-wise, you know?
The Black Forrest
14-01-2006, 02:18
Porn?

Well the moralists will disparage it but "porn" is rather old. You can find references from the Greeks and Egyptions.....
Gylesovia
14-01-2006, 02:30
There's a great show on Canadian Showcase called "Webdreams", which is a reality show following a varied group of people involved in the online porn business. Quite fascinating, really. YOu might want to check it out, if you have some form of access to that channel.
Vegas-Rex
14-01-2006, 02:30
Both mainstream actors and pornstars have public faces like the characters they play in movies. Schwarzenegger will always be the terminator, etc. Similarly, famous pornstars promote themselves as being almost as loose as they are in porn. That doesn't mean they'll just go with anyone, but even in the porn they usually have standards.
Danmarc
14-01-2006, 02:31
I think there is something funny about the way Howard Stern calls it Porno.... Ever since hearing him say it, I always try to say "porno" now.... makes ya giggle like a school girl.... "porno"...
Pure Metal
14-01-2006, 02:34
*fap fap fap fap*
Ashmoria
14-01-2006, 02:35
of all the possible moral issues involved in porn, the only one you think is important to discuss is the proper treatment of pornstars when you meet them on the street?

if you recognize and idolize porn stars enough to recognize them on the street and make a fool of yourself over it you may be spending WAY too much time with porn.

if you think you are going to meet porn stars on the street and recognize them and make a fool of yourself over it, you may be a bit nutz unless you live in a big porn producing town.
Kinwara
14-01-2006, 02:44
Sliced bread isn't that great....
Danmarc
14-01-2006, 04:30
Sliced bread isn't that great....


What are you talking about.... a little slice bread.... a little porno... What else could you want... unsliced bread and porno?