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Well, why not? :p
Personally, so long as they don't eat me or anyone I like, we might as well...

What an interesting and novel topic! :)

There'd have to be such strict laws on it though, or cannibal-cafe's which are the only places u can do it.

But they're such a minority of people anyway... why bother?

Humans are vegetarians by biological nature anyway.

Well, why not? :p
Personally, so long as they don't eat me or anyone I like, we might as well...

I remember debating this at school, and I think the best point was

"I write with my left hand and I have a girlfriend, so why the hell can't I sell my right arm?"

If that's what they like, why not? Although it obviously needs controls, all foodstuffs are controlled

Humans are vegetarians by biological nature anyway.

Yes. That's why we have appendixes. To deal with the bits of fur and bone in Broccoli. :p

What an interesting and novel topic! :)
Indeed. Can't think where I got the inspiration from. :D

There'd have to be such strict laws on it though, or cannibal-cafe's which are the only places u can do it.

But they're such a minority of people anyway... why bother?

Humans are vegetarians by biological nature anyway.
Nope. Of all the great apes humans are the most metabolically adapted to eat meat. Chimps, our closest relatives hunt for meat, but levels of cholesterol from meat fat that would not affect a human would put them in danger of heart disease or stroke.

Humans are vegetarians by biological nature anyway.
Yes, because we got massive brains from eating vegetable matter didn't we...? It wasn't the seafood rich in essential fatty acids, or anything like that was it? And then there's the small matter of our teeth, which are clearly only designed for grinding said vegetable matter...

If you can reconcile eating an unconsenting animal, then you should be able to reconcile eating a consenting human.

Dammit. When I first read this I thought it said cannabis, not cannibals. Re-route thinking process... different type of munchies.

I suppose I'd support it in a life or death situation as long as I wasn't the meal.

If you can reconcile eating an unconsenting animal, then you should be able to reconcile eating a consenting human.
I can agree with that.

:( My bad...

I based my earlier statement on:

>The fact our teeth are not carnivorous teeth... meaning we don't exactly have Tiger jaws.
>The fact we have to chew our meat into tiny amounts before swallowing.
>The fact we have to cook a lot of meat before we actually eat it because our stomach acids are not tough enough to deal with raw meat.
>The fact we have no claws.
>My Kung-Fu master told me I was correct, and I tend to trust old Chinese theory more than western theory or westernised Chinese culture... I'm not quite sure why though...

...maybe should have said "Humans are originally vegetarians, right?" or something but whatever, just stop correcting my opinion because it's not really on-topic.

What an interesting and novel topic! :)


You at least, wouldnt have to worry.

Nobody eats clowns.

They taste funny.

How is cannibalism supposed to work in our society?
Do people just eat the meat of people who were executed or generally who recently died? Or are people supposed to "volunteer" and donate a limb or something to provide another man with something to eat for lunch? Maybe there will be some mandatory "lottery" and the "winners" will have to give up a limb?
Any solution to this I find disgusting. Either you only eat meat from dead people or people have to be disabled for the rest of their life in order to provide someone with one meal. :headbang:

Well, I don't really know. Cannibals ate people for religious and spiritual reasons, not for sustenance; they believed they were consuming the spirit and the essence of the person...and did so after a battle or similar conflict. So, if you want to legalize that kind of cannibalism, you're going to have to legalize intertribal conflicts too. :confused:

How is cannibalism supposed to work in our society?
Do people just eat the meat of people who were executed or generally who recently died? Or are people supposed to "volunteer" and donate a limb or something to provide another man with something to eat for lunch? Maybe there will be some mandatory "lottery" and the "winners" will have to give up a limb?
Any solution to this I find disgusting. Either you only eat meat from dead people or people have to be disabled for the rest of their life in order to provide someone with one meal. :headbang:
It would be cruel to leave someone crippled just for a meal. You kill the person and use the whole body. The intestines are great for sausage casings.

How is cannibalism supposed to work in our society?
Do people just eat the meat of people who were executed or generally who recently died? Or are people supposed to "volunteer" and donate a limb or something to provide another man with something to eat for lunch? Maybe there will be some mandatory "lottery" and the "winners" will have to give up a limb?
Any solution to this I find disgusting. Either you only eat meat from dead people or people have to be disabled for the rest of their life in order to provide someone with one meal. :headbang:
No, the government uses dead people, mince them up into some sort of readily available processed food which is then sold to the unsuspecting general public.

You at least, wouldnt have to worry.

Nobody eats clowns.

They taste funny.
Is there a smilie anywhere that says 'Oh my God, did you really just use that extremely poor joke'?

It would be cruel to leave someone crippled just for a meal. You kill the person and use the whole body. The intestines are great for sausage casings.
So are we just going to use the people who are already going to be executed under the law or are we going to broaden the criteria under which people will be killed? Maybe also religious reasons?
Could be quite pricey food if you only take regularly executed people.

So are we just going to use the people who are already going to be executed under the law or are we going to broaden the criteria under which people will be killed? Maybe also religious reasons?
Could be quite pricey food if you only take regularly executed people.
not really you could get quite a steady supply out of Texas LOL

you have to remember that the general public isn't canabalistic, you don't need as much human meat as you do like beef for example.

So are we just going to use the people who are already going to be executed under the law or are we going to broaden the criteria under which people will be killed? Maybe also religious reasons?
Could be quite pricey food if you only take regularly executed people.
We establish a hunting season for each "race" and have a bag limit of two per hunter. You can only take adult males, the females and kids need to be around to produce the next generation of humans for future hunters.

We establish a hunting season for each "race" and have a bag limit of two per hunter. You can only take adult males, the females and kids need to be around to produce the next generation of humans for future hunters.
Would you have goverment regulated hunting services then? Otherwise, the hunter could quite easily become the hunted.

Would you have goverment regulated hunting services then? Otherwise, the hunter could quite easily become the hunted.
That's part of the fun. They prey might shoot back. You'd better believe that I'd be on my guard and ready to shoot back during whitey season.

That's part of the fun. They prey might shoot back. You'd better believe that I'd be on my guard and ready to shoot back during whitey season.
I'd build myself some sort of bunker and take refuge in there during 'whitey season'. Possibly with some sort of gun emplacement so that I don't miss out on my allotted two in the season.

:( My bad...

I based my earlier statement on:

>The fact our teeth are not carnivorous teeth... meaning we don't exactly have Tiger jaws.
>The fact we have to chew our meat into tiny amounts before swallowing.
>The fact we have to cook a lot of meat before we actually eat it because our stomach acids are not tough enough to deal with raw meat.
>The fact we have no claws.
>My Kung-Fu master told me I was correct, and I tend to trust old Chinese theory more than western theory or westernised Chinese culture... I'm not quite sure why though...

...maybe should have said "Humans are originally vegetarians, right?" or something but whatever, just stop correcting my opinion because it's not really on-topic.

And the Mongols, living off of a diet of dairy products and red meats kicked China's vegetarian arse.

We establish a hunting season for each "race" and have a bag limit of two per hunter. You can only take adult males, the females and kids need to be around to produce the next generation of humans for future hunters.

Oh, but the females are so tasty. Especially the soft round slow ones, and the young ones...

maybe an exception for cubs...:sniper:

mmmm, munch, munch, slurp.:eek:

:( My bad...

Sorry, but I like arguments so much I'm going to disassemble your post and point out why each of those is either false or not a good reason for assuming we were originally vegetarians.

I based my earlier statement on:

>The fact our teeth are not carnivorous teeth... meaning we don't exactly have Tiger jaws.

No, but we do have canine teeth. Humans are omnivores not herbivores or carnivores, so we have teeth to deal with both types of food.

>The fact we have to chew our meat into tiny amounts before swallowing.

We have to do that to everything. It's part of general human biology

>The fact we have to cook a lot of meat before we actually eat it because our stomach acids are not tough enough to deal with raw meat.

They are tough enough. Our stomach acid is one of the types of acid you think of in laboratorys, and dissolving metal, and so on and so on.

>The fact we have no claws.

Some carnivores don't have claws and some herbivores do. Besides that we don't need them, for the reason that we're smart enough to use clubs(Talking about cavemen here) and a lot of other people when hunting.

...maybe should have said "Humans are originally vegetarians, right?" or something but whatever,
Probably.

just stop correcting my opinion because it's not really on-topic.

No.

And the Mongols, living off of a diet of dairy products and red meats kicked China's vegetarian arse.
And the Mongols are dead now. China's still here.

Oh, but the females are so tasty. Especially the soft round slow ones, and the young ones...

maybe an exception for cubs...:sniper:

mmmm, munch, munch, slurp.:eek:
Well, we'll let someone else work out the details. I'm just a "big picture" guy.

And the Mongols are dead now. China's still here.
The Mongols are dead? I hope no one in Mongolia uses these forums...

And the Mongols are dead now. China's still here.

No, the Mongols are still here. And the Chinese of today are about as similar to the Chinese the Mongols kicked as the Japanese government of today is as the Japanese government when the kamikaze sunk Khubilai Khan's fleets.

The Mongols are dead? I hope no one in Mongolia uses these forums...
Aren't like fifty of them in Iraq with the coalition?

Aren't like fifty of them in Iraq with the coalition?
Heh, if there were 50 Genghis Khans there, we needn't worry about insurgents. With his personal hygiene, no one else would want to be in the entire country...

:( My bad...

I based my earlier statement on:

>The fact our teeth are not carnivorous teeth... meaning we don't exactly have Tiger jaws.
We do, however, have thin front teeth, designed for tearing meat, and sharp canines, for extra meat-tearing efficiency
>The fact we have to chew our meat into tiny amounts before swallowing.
I believe most animals chew things into smaller bits to avoid clogging up their insides. Some eat their prey whole/in large bites, but generally I believe they do prefer smaller mouthfuls.
>The fact we have to cook a lot of meat before we actually eat it because our stomach acids are not tough enough to deal with raw meat.
Our stomach acids are fine, it's the fact that raw meat tends to hold modern diseases (which weren't around a few thousand years ago, or were MUCH less dangerous) that leads us to cooking it before eating it. Humans (and our predecessors) were just fine eating raw meat ages ago, they just probably found that cooking it, and seasoning it with herbs and such, made it taste much better.
>The fact we have no claws.
Not the same claws as cats or dogs, but I can certainly see the resemblance between claws and our fingernails.
>My Kung-Fu master told me I was correct,
Probably something to do with the spirit of the animal that gave the meat haunting your Great Kung-Fu Skills and making you do poorly, which is absolute rubbish, if you ask me.
and I tend to trust old Chinese theory more than western theory or westernised Chinese culture... I'm not quite sure why though...
Probably because it seems to be pure/unadulterated, since Western culture has been known to pervert (not in the sexual way) everything from the land you live on to the very foundations of your culture.
...maybe should have said "Humans are originally vegetarians, right?" or something but whatever, just stop correcting my opinion because it's not really on-topic.
Technically, humans were probably carnivores before they discovered that plants were pretty good, and then became omnivores, if they weren't omnivores the whole time. We have not, since the very beginnings of modern humanity, been complete herbivores, except in the winter if the meat stored up ran out. And it's quite on-topic, since it justifies (well, this side does, your side goes against) humans eating meat, and eating meat is a justification for eating human meat.

As for my opinion on the topic, as long as the person agreed to that fate after death, and as long as the person is properly cooked to avoid all the diseases humans carry and can contract by eating other humans, I don't see a problem with it. I don't think I'd like to be eaten alive, but it's better than being dissected by that guy from wherever it was that cuts people open bit by bit and leaves them on display as art.

So, if you want to legalize that kind of cannibalism, you're going to have to legalize intertribal conflicts too. :confused:

You are all tribesmen.

You are all tribesmen.
Ungawa!

Harlesburg Decides:
Cannibals Demand To Taste What Harlesburg Has To Offer

The Issue
A coalition of tribalists, health experts, and civil rights proponents have recently suggested legalizing cannibalism for consumers of willing would-be meals.

The Debate
"I see absolutely no problem with people digging into each other at dinnertime, so long as everyone is willing," Pip Licorish, the editor of the monthly magazine 'To Serve Man', quips, "Not only does it solve hunger problems and create jobs, but it also adds variety to Harlesburg's sometimes dull palette."
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Civil rights leader Bill Jong-Il came out publicly for moderate pro-cannibalism legislation, commenting, "While it may strike some as a crude, even evil practice, our ancestors have practiced cannibalism for years. If we create a government organization to strictly regulate and grade all human meat prior to its arrival on the market, we can ensure that respect for diversity is maintained while health concerns are also allayed. And instead of killing average people, why not make being turned into snack foods a post-mortem option? Like donating your body to science!"
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"You're all absolutely out of your minds!" exclaims Dave Clinton, head of Harlesburg's largest health-food manufacturer. "It's immoral, it's unhealthy, and it's disgusting. Not only are these so-called 'dietary rights' activists leading us down a dark path of sin, but right into a marketplace with yet another product that's almost as bad as beef!"


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I voted for the bold as always and don't get me started on Spon Plague.