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Woman who died in '03 left in front of TV(!)

-Magdha-
10-01-2006, 18:33
Woman Who Died in '03 Left in Front of TV

Tuesday, January 10, 2006
CINCINNATI - The mummified body of a woman who didn't want to be buried was found in a chair in front of her television set 2 1/2 years after her death, authorities said.

Johannas Pope had told her live-in caregiver that she didn't want to be buried and planned on returning after she died, Hamilton County Coroner O'Dell Owens said Monday.

Pope died in August 2003 at age 61. Her body was found last week in the upstairs of her home on a quiet street. Some family members continued to live downstairs, authorities said. No one answered the doorbell at Pope's home Monday afternoon.

It could take weeks to determine Pope's cause of death because little organ tissue was available for testing, Owens said.

An air conditioner had been left running upstairs, and that allowed the body to slowly mummify, he said. The machine apparently stopped working about a month ago, and the body began to smell.

"Standing outside, one could smell death," Owens said.

Police went to the house last Wednesday after receiving a call from a relative who hadn't seen Pope in years. They found a staircase behind a door blocked by a basket and climbed to the second floor, where they found the body.

It was not clear if any crimes were committed, Owens said.

Authorities did not identify the caregiver, a women in her 40s who apparently lived in the home with Pope, Pope's daughter and her 3-year-old granddaughter.

"The caregiver is not someone you'd think was from another planet or really seems off the wall - (she's) a pretty normal kind of person," he said. "But I think out of loyalty, friendship and love of her friend, (she) decided to keep the body at home."

http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=news&referrer=welcome&id=20060110/43c33f50_3421_1334520060110-522861850



Is this creepy as hell, as what? :eek:
Minoriteeburg
10-01-2006, 18:38
"Standing outside, one could smell death," Owens said.

and nothing was done about this for 2 years?!?!?!?!?
Legless Pirates
10-01-2006, 18:46
and nothing was done about this for 2 years?!?!?!?!?
Just a month.....before it had AC
Minoriteeburg
10-01-2006, 18:47
or maybe she was one of those unsmelly corpses.
Antikythera
10-01-2006, 18:47
ewwwwwwwwwwwww
thats so gross:headbang:
Auranai
10-01-2006, 18:49
Yeah. I'm from Cinci and heard this on all the talk radio shows this morning during my AM commute. That's all anyone's talking about at the water cooler today. Everyone is pretty freaked out.

Nas-T!
People without names
10-01-2006, 18:52
What do you expect out of a city that elected jerry springer as mayor
[NS]Simonist
10-01-2006, 19:01
Even more puzzling to me was how she figured she planned to "return" after death. Like, to collect her belongings? To live among us as a zombie (which would actually be the only reason I'd ever go to Cincinnati)?

Sounds to me like another crazy old coot who should've had more attention paid to her, especially after she stopped showing her face for, oh, 2 1/2 years....
Stolen Dreams
10-01-2006, 19:07
She's gonna be well bummed when she upon returning realises she's been buried or cremated. I would love to see the expression on her face when she makes this ghastly discovery! :D


Oh, I nearly forgot; yanks.. :rolleyes:
Silliopolous
10-01-2006, 19:21
Now THAT's some family!


Mom dies upstairs, the live-in caregiver continues to live-in, and nobody seems to be the wiser except the caregiver?

Because from the sounds of it the family members were unaware of the death!

"What? Mom forgot my birthday again? Bitch! I'd go give her a piece of my mind..... but those stairs are just toooooooo steep. Hardly seems worth the effort....."
The Squeaky Rat
10-01-2006, 19:44
Is this creepy as hell, as what? :eek:

Sorry - but where is the creepy part (seriously) ?
Liverbreath
10-01-2006, 19:49
I am a bit shocked at the response here. If secularist beliefs are the only legitimate ones as many here demand, this seems to be the perfect worldly solution to death. Where's all the open minded thoughtfulness and tolerance gone? At least they didn't give her an evil christian burial and respected her right to return!
Nadkor
10-01-2006, 19:51
I am a bit shocked at the response here. If secularist beliefs are the only legitimate ones as many here demand, this seems to be the perfect worldly solution to death. Where's all the open minded thoughtfulness and tolerance gone? At least they didn't give her an evil christian burial and respected her right to return!
What on earth are you talking about? :confused:
The Squeaky Rat
10-01-2006, 19:53
What on earth are you talking about? :confused:

Well.. why is feeding someones body to maggots and worms, or burning it and keeping the ashes in an urn on your mantelpiece less "creepy" than just keeping her body intact doing what it mostly did ? Why does everyone consider this "wrong" ?
Nadkor
10-01-2006, 19:54
Well.. why is feeding someones body to maggots and worms, or burning it and keeping the ashes in an urn on your mantelpiece less "creepy" than just keeping her body intact doing what it mostly did ?
Er...are you sure you meant to quote me?
The Squeaky Rat
10-01-2006, 19:56
Er...are you sure you meant to quote me?

Apologies - your question and the post it responded to can be interpreted in multiple ways.
Nadkor
10-01-2006, 19:59
Apologies - your question and the post it responded to can be interpreted in multiple ways.
I don't see how. But whatever. Each to their own...
Kevlanakia
10-01-2006, 20:37
I am a bit shocked at the response here. If secularist beliefs are the only legitimate ones as many here demand, this seems to be the perfect worldly solution to death. Where's all the open minded thoughtfulness and tolerance gone? At least they didn't give her an evil christian burial and respected her right to return!

Also, we should stop using the word "dead" for these poor people. It is such a negative term, and it has been used to discriminate against the vitally challenged for centuries, if not millennia. The same goes for the term "living", which along with "dead" is used to segregate and create differences between "us" and "them". As a modern society, we should be better than that!

Though because of the health risk that follows if the vitally challenged are allowed to stay in homes that aren't properly equipped to take care of them, I think it should be a municipial responsibility. The state should create homes for the vitally challenged, and I'm not talking about the kind of medieval crypts our less enlightened ancestors may have considered approperiate! Why should these people be derived of privileges that the rest of us can enjoy? Meals? Beds? Walks in the park (some of the vitally challenged may need assistants to help them on this point.) Toilets? Late Night Show?

I say, it is time to recognize our vitally challenged friends' right to a decent life! Or... Existance!
Iztatepopotla
10-01-2006, 21:24
Also, we should stop using the word "dead" for these poor people. It is such a negative term, and it has been used to discriminate against the vitally challenged for centuries, if not millennia. The same goes for the term "living", which along with "dead" is used to segregate and create differences between "us" and "them". As a modern society, we should be better than that!
What about "biologically challenged"? "pre-zombie" ? "decomposition enhanced"?

And, yes, I don't care if you throw a corpse to the wolves, but there are health considerations (and the ugly smell) that have to be considered.
Auranai
10-01-2006, 21:28
I say, it is time to recognize our vitally challenged friends' right to a decent life! Or... Existance!

Whatever you had for breakfast this morning... don't eat it anymore.
Vetalia
10-01-2006, 21:29
Only in Cincinnati...I swear, it's because we had Jerry Springer as our Mayor.