NationStates Jolt Archive

why don't you buy a gun?

Seriously, buying yourself a gun and training in the proper care and use of it, even learning to make your own ammunition, (which is very easy by the way) would solve a lot of problems. Terrorists on your butt? Shoot them. Problem solved. Home invasion? Bang. Problem solved. There's a lot less criminals in America than there are regular old folks. We have superior numbers. Just shoot them, for Christ's sake. You don't even have to kill them if you know how to handle your weapon.

Conversely, if you think some Governmental organization is wrong for doing X, and begins to invade your privacy, or what have you - shoot them. Of course, you'll probably die in the process, but at least you died fighting for something you belive in. Right? Who could ask for anything more?

In conclusion, guns solve a lot more problems than they cause. It's just a matter of getting the populace to the point where they don't have an alergic reaction to powder.

Carry on.
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I think I'll just run for office in my own state.. Instead of complaining, I'll try to change things...

That works too. While your a'changin', mind getting people over the hump of gun fear? If everyone realized what morons gangstas were for holding their weapons at 90degree angles, they'd stop being horrified and start laughing their butts off.

meh, I'd rahter not stoop to that level and become what I am opposed to. I'm better than that.

meh, I'd rahter not stoop to that level and become what I am opposed to. I'm better than that.

you're opposed to gun ownership?

you're opposed to gun ownership?


No I'm opposed to having my own gun and so I therefore don't own one. You can do whatever the hell you like if that is what suits you.

I think it's better if I don't have a gun right now, it just doesn't sound like a good idea.

1 I have children who are too young to trust
2 my neighbors are idiots and I might accidentaly shoot them
3 my hormones are out of whack (I am not sure why) so I might go on a killing spree one day because of PMS
4 I can't afford the gun I would want and would end up resenting the purchase of a sub-standard weapon

oh yeah, and I don't want to shoot anyone. ;)

I've fired a pistol once. My friend took me down to the range, explained that you don't point it at anything you aren't willing to destroy, showed how to load the clip, tacked up a paper man target, and let me go at it.

He had two pistols, one fired the empty shell out sideways, the other one popped it up and back, so as a smoking hot shell would bounce off your head or face or what not.

I liked the one that shot the shell to the side myself. He liked the other one since he'd served in the Marines and said that that's a lot nicer than getting your buddies shells discarded in your eye while you're lying next to him in a ditch.

I could see where he was coming from but pointed out that I wasn't in a ditch fighting for my life.

My wife won't let me own one. She says I'd probably just use it in a rage or something.

I think she's right.

I've done some stupid shit when angry. One time I threw my PS2... If I'd had a gun I'm sure I would have shot it instead. :mp5:

No I'm opposed to having my own gun and so I therefore don't own one. You can do whatever the hell you like if that is what suits you.

oh ok.

Some people simply can't handle the responsibilities of a firearm, so it's actually the best choice for them not to own one!

Seriously, if you think that you'd accidentally shoot your wife/kid/neighbor on accident, don't even think about buying a gun.

If you can't trust yourself with a gun, then you have no purpose owning one.

Some people simply can't handle the responsibilities of a firearm, so it's actually the best choice for them not to own one!

Seriously, if you think that you'd accidentally shoot your wife/kid/neighbor on accident, don't even think about buying a gun.

If you can't trust yourself with a gun, then you have no purpose owning one.
I was actually mostly kidding. I grew up around guns, and trust myself around them. I know enough though that I don't want my kids around them at all until they are old enough to learn gun saftey and learn how to use a gun and when to use a gun. I will probably buy a gun when my kids are older, and might buy them BB guns, but they are still way too young.

I think it's better if I don't have a gun right now, it just doesn't sound like a good idea.

1 I have children who are too young to trust
2 my neighbors are idiots and I might accidentaly shoot them
3 my hormones are out of whack (I am not sure why) so I might go on a killing spree one day because of PMS
4 I can't afford the gun I would want and would end up resenting the purchase of a sub-standard weapon

oh yeah, and I don't want to shoot anyone. ;)

My PMS-enraged mother shot a paper man-sized target in the head four out of six times (the other two being near misses) and had never fired a rifle before in her life.

Oh, and she was aiming for the chest.

Either way, PMS works miracles depending on your point of view.

As for the children, I'm not going to argue with you, you're the mom. However I will say that for my own part, was I to have children, I would teach them from day one to respect all weapons, regardless of what shape they come in and how close someone has to be for you to kill them. For me, it's just plain common sense. Here's a little scenario for you: What if your children are at their friend's house, the parents of which you know perhaps from PTA meetings or what have you. What if they fail to mention that they own a weapon for home defense in your chats with them? What if your children stumble on the weapon somehow? Would you rather they play with it, without knowing what it is - or would you rather they know instinctively that it's a possible hazzard and leave it alone, even if your children's friends insist that it's alright?

I can identify with you on the expense, I'm not made of money either. However, there are effective and well built weapons made for four hundred - six hundred, and that's a small price to pay for the security offered by it.

Some people simply can't handle the responsibilities of a firearm, so it's actually the best choice for them not to own one!

Seriously, if you think that you'd accidentally shoot your wife/kid/neighbor on accident, don't even think about buying a gun.

If you can't trust yourself with a gun, then you have no purpose owning one.

That's why I included the clause of training yourself (and now I'm adding "or get trained") in the use of the weapon. Don't get me wrong, I don't want people running around with guns if they don't know how to use it. Honestly, if I had my way, I would put a gun in every home and throw every adult into mandatory "gun school" for lack of a better term.

Training is a must. Guns are tools, just like a hammer or screwdriver. If you've never hammered a nail in your life, you're pretty likely to smash your thumb. You're just as likely to gouge yourself with a screwdriver, if you've never used one before. Trained carpenters never hit their thumbs - not just because they hit the nail on the head every time, but in fact because they know not to put their hands in the path of the damn blunt object.

My PMS-enraged mother shot a paper man-sized target in the head four out of six times (the other two being near misses) and had never fired a rifle before in her life.

Oh, and she was aiming for the chest.

Either way, PMS works miracles depending on your point of view.

As for the children, I'm not going to argue with you, you're the mom. However I will say that for my own part, was I to have children, I would teach them from day one to respect all weapons, regardless of what shape they come in and how close someone has to be for you to kill them. For me, it's just plain common sense. Here's a little scenario for you: What if your children are at their friend's house, the parents of which you know perhaps from PTA meetings or what have you. What if they fail to mention that they own a weapon for home defense in your chats with them? What if your children stumble on the weapon somehow? Would you rather they play with it, without knowing what it is - or would you rather they know instinctively that it's a possible hazzard and leave it alone, even if your children's friends insist that it's alright?

I can identify with you on the expense, I'm not made of money either. However, there are effective and well built weapons made for four hundred - six hundred, and that's a small price to pay for the security offered by it.

yeah. I have had the gun discussion with them many times, the rule is if you see a gun, don't touch it and go find an adult. They know that weapons are not toys and can hurt people even if you don't mean for them to, just because some people don't know what they are doing. It's common where I live for everyone to have guns, I am probably the only person in my neighborhood without one, so I have to be proactive when it comes to teaching my kids what to do.

I seriously doubt I would ever shoot someone for any reason but self defense. I have been out to the shooting range before though and they said I had pretty good aim, I ended up shooting the paper guy in the head twice and once in the crotch for fun :p

I grew up around weapons too. Shotguns, 357's, 45's, 22's, crossbows...
I was pretty damn good with target practice but always refused to go hunting. Even as a young child I couldn't take the life of an animal. I still enjoy target practice though.

There isn’t anything like the feeling of dusting a clay pigeon with a 12-guage on a skeet field. Mmmm.

Seriously though, Machezda is right. Guns are really a tool. More so longer ago when you had to hunt for your food and whatnot. Now, they are mostly just fun to shoot. Just like other dangerous hobbies like SCUBA diving (which is more dangerous that most people think) and skydiving, they are perfectly safe, as long as you go by the book, and the people that you're doing it with aren’t being retards.

yeah. I have had the gun discussion with them many times, the rule is if you see a gun, don't touch it and go find an adult. They know that weapons are not toys and can hurt people even if you don't mean for them to, just because some people don't know what they are doing. It's common where I live for everyone to have guns, I am probably the only person in my neighborhood without one, so I have to be proactive when it comes to teaching my kids what to do.

I seriously doubt I would ever shoot someone for any reason but self defense. I have been out to the shooting range before though and they said I had pretty good aim, I ended up shooting the paper guy in the head twice and once in the crotch for fun :p

I didn't mean to come off like I thought you were completely ignoring the issue, or anything. Just meant to say that it's better to teach the youngin's than to have them running around in blisful ignorance with a loaded weapon in their hands playing cowboys and indians.

I'd prefer to show my penis off to the ladies than to show an expensive boomstick off to, well umm, dudes.

*edit: my erect penis.

There isn’t anything like the feeling of dusting a clay pigeon with a 12-guage on a skeet field. Mmmm.

Seriously though, Machezda is right. Guns are really a tool. More so longer ago when you had to hunt for your food and whatnot. Now, they are mostly just fun to shoot. Just like other dangerous hobbies like SCUBA diving (which is more dangerous that most people think) and skydiving, they are perfectly safe, as long as you go by the book, and the people that you're doing it with aren’t being retards.

Thanks. I like skeet myself, though I've only done it once or twice. Despite all this gun talk though I'm more keen on archery, and all the assosiated sports surrounding it. I used to be pretty competetive, though after I broke my arm I never got back into practicing again. I should take it up for giggles - I sunk a lot of money into it.

I'd prefer to show my penis off to the ladies than to show an expensive boomstick off to, well umm, dudes.

*edit: my erect penis.

Um, wrong topic, dude?

Either way, I laughed.

Yeah...umm...all the women I know would shoot you if you did that, while all the men would gawk and drool over your "boomstick".

Methinks that you are a pervert, but then...the internet brings out the worst in all of us, doesn't it?

Thanks. I like skeet myself, though I've only done it once or twice. Despite all this gun talk though I'm more keen on archery, and all the assosiated sports surrounding it. I used to be pretty competetive, though after I broke my arm I never got back into practicing again. I should take it up for giggles - I sunk a lot of money into it.

SSTDP, but I should have checked before I posted. Anyway, I guess since we are talking about skeet, I've got a skeet story...

The guy who got us into skeet is, like, a world class skeet shooter. Really. So, we were on the last station and my dad jokingly said to him, "Hey. I bet you could hit the low house target off your hip!" So the guy popped a shell in, yelled "Pull!" and BAM! Without even looking, he broke it. It was awesome.

Not that I'm endorsing Michael Moore (due to all the lies that practically make up his films) buthavn't you seen bowling for colombine?

Shooting targets at the range was fun enough when I was doing the raf cadet bit, but I really question the mentality of folk who get a kick out of it into their adulthood... :confused: