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Extremes never seem to be the best. Too hot is bad. Too cold is bad. Too far left is bad. Too far right is bad. Too much is bad. Too little is bad.

Yet, why do we continue to argue that our political ideals are best? Are extremes really only bad until it comes to politics? Or are they always bad and we're just fools who place our hope in impossible utopias?

I believe libertarianism can work and would work the best compared to anything else.

Communists believe the same for their system.

Why? There is so much proof around us that extremes are not good. Why do we continue to advocate them?

Because it shocks the parents.

I'd say that's it.

For me personally, yes, I agree. Moderation (I'll call it Pragmatism because I want to sound smart) is the way to go.

I do not see why moderation is inherently any better than extremism.

Slavery was moderate once, as was the subjugation of women, the slaughter of minorities, and legally-enforced religious fundamentalism.

I thought this was going to be about the Mods...

*sulks away from thread*

I thought this was going to be about the Mods...

*sulks away from thread*

I had to think about it for a few seconds, too, and then went, "oh, that moderation." Silly English.

Because it shocks the parents.

I'd say that's it.

I disagree with the premises behind this and similar sentiments, but because I'm not in the mood for arguing it out, I would add that the music, at least on the radical left, is better as well.

The Internationale beats dreary moderate nonsense any day.

Why? There is so much proof around us that extremes are not good. Why do we continue to advocate them?
Because extremes are a relativistic construct. They don't actually exist in and of themselves, but only by comparison to alternatives. Does the fact that someone else believes something really different from you and thus makes your veiw "extreme" automatically invalidate it? Of course not. People advocate what they believe in because, for one reason or another they believe in it, not because it is "extreme".

Moderation is in direct proportion to the dire nature/innocuous nature of its context.
Not the manifesting of propaganda or innocent/deliberate misunderstanding and misappropriation of its context.
Understanding *ALWAYS* provides more successful options.

Soundsto me that you are finally discovering the benefits to the Happy Medium. :)

"Wow, that guy is way too center!" - doesn't work, opposition party can't complain.

"Moderation? Who needs moderation we already have police, what more do you want?" - unclear language, I'm with you East Lansing!

"Vote Pragmatic!" - sounds like a dogma, and not a political party.

Moderation is in direct proportion to the dire nature/innocuous nature of its context.
Not the manifesting of propaganda or innocent/deliberate misunderstanding and misappropriation of its context.
Understanding *ALWAYS* provides more successful options.

You sound smart. What you said.

I thought this was going to be about the Mods...

*sulks away from thread*
*Joins in, sulks towards the sunset (almost 1 p.m., but still..)*

*Joins in, sulks towards the sunset (almost 1 p.m., but still..)*
Ahh, its dark around 5 here now. You only got, what...4 hours then?

Hi. Extremism isn't inherently bad. Neither is moderation.

What is bad is sticking rigidly to one particularly ideology regardless of how foolish it is, whether it be extreme left, extreme right, or somewhere in the middle, and not considering each issue on its own merits. Sometimes the best solution to a problem comes from the extreme left. Sometimes, it comes from the extreme right. And sometimes, a compromise between the two. Just choosing an ideology and never swayng from its 'teachings' is extreme in itself, and helps nobody.

It is one thing to be defined by a political ideology. It is something else entirely to be constricted by it.

Extremes never seem to be the best. Too hot is bad. Too cold is bad. Too far left is bad. Too far right is bad. Too much is bad. Too little is bad.

Yet, why do we continue to argue that our political ideals are best? Are extremes really only bad until it comes to politics? Or are they always bad and we're just fools who place our hope in impossible utopias?

I believe libertarianism can work and would work the best compared to anything else.

Communists believe the same for their system.

Why? There is so much proof around us that extremes are not good. Why do we continue to advocate them?

Because far too many people still trust their feelings so much that they claim intuition to be fact. As soon as everybody realises that it doesn't matter how they feel, the world will become a better place. Although, people are so incredibly stupid that the chances of that happening are slim to nil.

You left out the poll option: "There is no answer." I think that would be most likely.

You left out the poll option: "There is no answer." I think that would be most likely.
And most Matrix-pun

And most Matrix-pun

I never got that joke until now.:headbang:

Add me to the ranks of those who thought this was about the Mods...

Because far too many people still trust their feelings so much that they claim intuition to be fact. As soon as everybody realises that it doesn't matter how they feel, the world will become a better place. Although, people are so incredibly stupid that the chances of that happening are slim to nil.

What you said. (BTW, that's a very Buddhist answer you posted, except for the last bit. Buddhism tends to be a bit more optimistic that people will eventually reach enlightenment.)

You sound smart. What you said.
Hey thanks! One of the few things that i actually make my middle-of-the-road mark.
I figure i even most things out by blowing out a lot of stupid things too ... averages, you know.
Mmmm, tepid.

Extremes never seem to be the best. Too hot is bad. Too cold is bad. Too far left is bad. Too far right is bad. Too much is bad. Too little is bad.

Yet, why do we continue to argue that our political ideals are best? Are extremes really only bad until it comes to politics? Or are they always bad and we're just fools who place our hope in impossible utopias?

I believe libertarianism can work and would work the best compared to anything else.

Communists believe the same for their system.

Why? There is so much proof around us that extremes are not good. Why do we continue to advocate them?

Depends what you mean. Extremes when related to personal behavior are bad: too much or too little of quite a number of different things will cause ill health. But extreme political views do not necessarily count as the same thing, mainly because some political views may well be right and conducive to moderate living, but not be considered part of the political mainstream.

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I believe libertarianism can work and would work the best compared to anything else.

Communists believe the same for their system.
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Since when did communism become the opposite of liberatarianism?

Moderation can be extreme.... hehehe