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I keep hearing the phrase, "how come all the cute guys are gay" (Excluding me), how many straight girls have actually come accross that in real life?

If one decides to be interested in men, it obviously is worth more to look good. If one decides to be interested in women, it may simply be easier to get what you want without bothering.

If one decides to be interested in men, it obviously is worth more to look good. If one decides to be interested in women, it may simply be easier to get what you want without bothering.

Choose?! No babe, we're born fabulous :D

Here's my half assed theory I'm coming up with right now-

Gay dudes, being gay, know what looks good about dudes. Straight dudes actively avoid knowing what looks good about dudes to avoid being accused of being gay. So if a straight dude looks good, it's really just an accident, or they got lucky or whatever. But gay dudes look good because they know what they're going for.

So on average, gay dudes are going to look better than straight dudes.

That's what I believe for the next few minutes...

:eek:

LMAO too much.... And if thats true, well the hell did all the hot gay guys go??

Here's my half assed theory I'm coming up with right now-

Gay dudes, being gay, know what looks good about dudes. Straight dudes actively avoid knowing what looks good about dudes to avoid being accused of being gay. So if a straight dude looks good, it's really just an accident, or they got lucky or whatever. But gay dudes look good because they know what they're going for.

So on average, gay dudes are going to look better than straight dudes.

That's what I believe for the next few minutes...
Yes, one day I found out that our 4k populated school's most popular gay was into me because I seemed gay as well. That's when I realized that I was metrosexual.

I fit in this nice middle that only applies to a few people. Go me. Why the hell did I quote you?

nup... never

Yes, one day I found out that our 4k populated school's most popular gay was into me because I seemed gay as well. That's when I realized that I was metrosexual.

I fit in this nice middle that only applies to a few people. Go me. Why the hell did I quote you?
I do believe it does have something to do with knowing what the males go for....but also, I think that females inherently go for guys they know they can't 'have.

Two examples:
1. My friend, Charlie, and I were super close for like, four years, and everybody assumed I liked him. Even he did. The only time that any attraction ever formed on my part was when he got into a serious relationship with another girl friend of mine, and the attraction was gone when they broke up.
2. I flirt with NS boys who I know I'll probably never meet. Kanabia? 'Nuff said.

Why did I quote you?

ridiculous...

Nice guys are not gay ! That's desinformation, look at the pope so cute he looks, and he's not gay !

Heretics...

I think it's possibly that girls feel safer around gay guys. Gay guys aren't looking to crack on to straight women and will simply be themselves rather than try to impress with cheesy pick-up lines. I know it's not true of all straight guys but it is true of a lot of them. In the same way a lot of gay guys will prefer the company of straight guys, possibly for the same reason- and again why a lot of straight men don't feel comfortable in the company of gay men.

Just a thought

ridiculous...

Nice guys are not gay ! That's desinformation, look at the pope so cute he looks, and he's not gay !

Heretics...

Doesn't matter, the pope doesn't date.

Yes, one day I found out that our 4k populated school's most popular gay was into me because I seemed gay as well. That's when I realized that I was metrosexual.

Metrosexuals are gays who haven't come to terms.

Metrosexuals are gays who haven't come to terms.
What can I say, I just don't like penis.

Most gay men are fastidious groomers.

Chicks dig that.

I think it's possibly that girls feel safer around gay guys. Gay guys aren't looking to crack on to straight women and will simply be themselves rather than try to impress with cheesy pick-up lines. I know it's not true of all straight guys but it is true of a lot of them. In the same way a lot of gay guys will prefer the company of straight guys, possibly for the same reason- and again why a lot of straight men don't feel comfortable in the company of gay men.

Just a thought

Well for me, I tend not to spend much time with straight guys, purely because i have nothing in common with them, that is, the usual blokey stuff of cars, women, sports etc.

As for gay men, well, for me, they don't need to use cheesey pick up lines - interested, they just come out and say it, there is no mucking around, jerking around the edges with it.

As for females, hmm, I think its the fact that females like the idea of having a male as a friend, but they don't want the guy to be attracted, physically to her. For alot of guys the only hang out with a female for one reason - to yet something; straight guys will either work in a 'pack' and if they're out of the 'male only pack', its because he is with his girlfriend or looking for one.

As for females, hmm, I think its the fact that females like the idea of having a male as a friend, but they don't want the guy to be attracted, physically to her. For alot of guys the only hang out with a female for one reason - to yet something; straight guys will either work in a 'pack' and if they're out of the 'male only pack', its because he is with his girlfriend or looking for one.
Well, as a straight guy I can safely say that many girls I am friends with I am not attracted to, even if they are attractive.

However, I do admit to hanging out with girls I am attracted to and being friends with them in a number of cases. I just don't know any other way.

Well, as a straight guy I can safely say that many girls I am friends with I am not attracted to, even if they are attractive.

However, I do admit to hanging out with girls I am attracted to and being friends with them in a number of cases. I just don't know any other way.

True, I guess it depends on how we present ourselves, and you probably come off as non-threatening, possibly even gayish.

At work, for example, there is a girl who has a boyfriend, who, believe me, when I saw him the first time, came off as very threatening, almost that 'I'm going to beat your face in' body language.

Just as an observation, if you as a guy are finding it difficult, try looking at your body language and whether it is inviting to the opposit sex :D

Probably because
1) All TV shows which have gay people on them make the gay people very good looking, just like the rest of the cast (why else would anyone watch them?).
2) Maybe some girls, if they can't pick up a guy, claim the were gay, to save pride.

Or somthing...

I've been called "cute" once or twice before and i'm not gay.

I don't know...all gay guys I've met so far were really attractive in one way or another. ... Maybe it's got to do with being more relaxed around girls, with having certain similar interests (like for example... what show to watch on tv ;)) or treating girls differently (for obvious reasons).
In fact.... I really have no clue what makes them this cool... they just are :D

I don't know...all gay guys I've met so far were really attractive in one way or another. ... Maybe it's got to do with being more relaxed around girls, with having certain similar interests (like for example... what show to watch on tv ;)) or treating girls differently (for obvious reasons).
In fact.... I really have no clue what makes them this cool... they just are :D


Then there is the funnest of past times, sitting at a cafe doing some people watching - ooh, the bitchiness that goes down, and lord, seeing some outfits, you swear that some people don't have a full length mirror in their house <snap fingers>

Then there is the funnest of past times, sitting at a cafe doing some people watching - ooh, the bitchiness that goes down, and lord, seeing some outfits, you swear that some people don't have a full length mirror in their house <snap fingers>

LOL. I have a bisexual friend I do that with. That doesn't make me gay, it's funny :p

You haven't lived until you've sat out the front of a condom store and watched the reactions of passers-by.

You haven't lived until you've sat out the front of a condom store and watched the reactions of passers-by.
Haha! Awesome :D

I don't know...all gay guys I've met so far were really attractive in one way or another. ... Maybe it's got to do with being more relaxed around girls, with having certain similar interests (like for example... what show to watch on tv ;)) or treating girls differently (for obvious reasons).
In fact.... I really have no clue what makes them this cool... they just are :D

Many guys (including my straight self) feel the same around non-butchy lesbians. Don't really know why.

LOL. I have a bisexual friend I do that with. That doesn't make me gay, it's funny :p

You haven't lived until you've sat out the front of a condom store and watched the reactions of passers-by.

Yeah, and at times, the temptation to get up and tell the person the awful truth, at times, can be unbarable.

I need to say it now; if you're a female, built like a brick shit house, black tight leotards are NOT your friend, and it doesn't matter how big that damn sweater is, you can still see the celulite, the muffin top and the excessive large bolders - its almost as tragic as the frumpy look that comes with wearing a poorly cut skirt!

Many guys (including my straight self) feel the same around non-butchy lesbians. Don't really know why.
I guess that's because they fall into the same category as my girl friends (guy friends in your case), there's a lot less ...confusion about the relationship.

Yeah, and at times, the temptation to get up and tell the person the awful truth, at times, can be unbarable.

I need to say it now; if you're a female, built like a brick shit house, black tight leotards are NOT your friend, and it doesn't matter how big that damn sweater is, you can still see the celulite, the muffin top and the excessive large bolders - its almost as tragic as the frumpy look that comes with wearing a poorly cut skirt!

Eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. :p

Eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. :p

You better believe it doll; I've got the worlds most ugly legs and thus, I have the good decency to wear pants all year around - the world is ugly enough as it is, lets try to do our part to minimise the increase in ugliness, colour clashing and down right poor taste.

You better believe it doll; I've got the worlds most ugly legs and thus, I have the good decency to wear pants all year around - the world is ugly enough as it is, lets try to do our part to minimise the increase in ugliness, colour clashing and down right poor taste.

I do likewise. I'm too lanky to look good in anything shorter than full-length pants.

You better believe it doll; I've got the worlds most ugly legs and thus, I have the good decency to wear pants all year around - the world is ugly enough as it is, lets try to do our part to minimise the increase in ugliness, colour clashing and down right poor taste.
I love sitting on the floor too much as to wear skirts ;)

I keep hearing the phrase, "how come all the cute guys are gay" (Excluding me), how many straight girls have actually come accross that in real life?

Well, obviously "all cute guys are gay" is an exaggeration, but the underlying sentiment probably goes a lot like this:
Gay dudes, being gay, know what looks good about dudes. Straight dudes actively avoid knowing what looks good about dudes to avoid being accused of being gay. So if a straight dude looks good, it's really just an accident, or they got lucky or whatever. But gay dudes look good because they know what they're going for.

So on average, gay dudes are going to look better than straight dudes.

So yes, if we're strictly talking looks, I'd say it's because gay men just know what makes themselves look good and groom themselves accordingly.

Though the OP's statement really only goes for the "classic cute" - I mean, I doubt there'd be many girls out there swooning over the mustached leather "bear"... :p

Ok. I've been in enough gay bars to know this, even if I'm not straight. Some gay men are very hot, but others look like they should have been shoved back in at birth.

Ok. I've been in enough gay bars to know this, even if I'm not straight. Some gay men are very hot, but others look like they should have been shoved back in at birth.
So you mean... on average... they're just like ... like everyone else?? :eek:
;)

Ok. I've been in enough gay bars to know this, even if I'm not straight. Some gay men are very hot, but others look like they should have been shoved back in at birth.

Or have their gay ticket revoked :)

(btw, I'm part of that put back at birth bunch :p )

So you mean... on average... they're just like ... like everyone else?? :eek:
;)

LOL :D

Here's my half assed theory I'm coming up with right now-

Gay dudes, being gay, know what looks good about dudes. Straight dudes actively avoid knowing what looks good about dudes to avoid being accused of being gay. So if a straight dude looks good, it's really just an accident, or they got lucky or whatever. But gay dudes look good because they know what they're going for.

So on average, gay dudes are going to look better than straight dudes.

That's what I believe for the next few minutes...
makes good sense to me.

i must be turning gay then cos i'm starting to want to look good (not really for myself, strictly speaking, but meh)



i think a quote from Frasier is apt here:
Niles: "Wow!"
Frasier: "What was that, Niles?"
Niles: "I've never used 'wow' to describe another man before. I wonder what it means?"
Frasier: "Isn't it obvious? It means you're a gay-man :rolleyes:"


hehe :P

Though the OP's statement really only goes for the "classic cute" - I mean, I doubt there'd be many girls out there swooning over the mustached leather "bear"... :p

<shudder> Everytime that image is concocted in my head, "The Blue Oyster" comes back into my mind from the movie "Police Academy" :P

The sad part, there cliché still lives on, no matter how much its been told that its not a turn on, and that the village people image is not the 'in thing'.

(btw, I'm part of that put back at birth bunch :p )
"Then I'm-a tell ya like this, and I'm-a tell ya this way
My body's beautiful, that's all I'm sayin'
Bodies come in all different shapes and sizes
You're beautiful, too, just realize this
Can't you see the beauty in me?
Open up your heart and set your mind free
Everybody's beautiful in their own way
Express yourself every day
And when you got joy on the inside it shows on the out
Be confident and you're beautiful without a doubt
You're absolutely gorgeous, don't you know?
So you got the body beautiful glow"

Hehe... oh the things I thought I'd never quote...
;)

So you mean... on average... they're just like ... like everyone else?? :eek:
;)


Bingo! Deduction of the Day Award! Cookie? :)

"Then I'm-a tell ya like this, and I'm-a tell ya this way
My body's beautiful, that's all I'm sayin'
Bodies come in all different shapes and sizes
You're beautiful, too, just realize this
Can't you see the beauty in me?
Open up your heart and set your mind free
Everybody's beautiful in their own way
Express yourself every day
And when you got joy on the inside it shows on the out
Be confident and you're beautiful without a doubt
You're absolutely gorgeous, don't you know?
So you got the body beautiful glow"

Hehe... oh the things I thought I'd never quote...
;)

Yeah, I'd love to think that way about my body, but going past the mirror, one can't help to shudder at the site of this bleh which is reflected back.

Yeah, I'd love to think that way about my body, but going past the mirror, one can't help to shudder at the site of this bleh which is reflected back.

Yeah, I get that too...but put it this way, no matter how hot you were you still wouldn't want to have sex with yourself.

So there's no telling how other people see you :p

Bingo! Deduction of the Day Award! Cookie? :)
I know... I was always really good at expressing what people subtly hint at ;)
But I never thought it got to the point I'll win prizes for that tremendously useless-uh-full skill!
So I gracefully accept your award, I would also like to thank everyone who's believed in me all these years, helped me find my way and never once doubted that once found I would go it all the way.

...
Yay! Cookie! Yay! :D

Yeah, I get that too...but put it this way, no matter how hot you were you still wouldn't want to have sex with yourself.

So there's no telling how other people see you :p
Haha! I'm not quite sure how that would make anyone feel better (something about the thought is just too utterly wrong to ignore it :D)
But it was a noble effort!
(You want a bit of my Award-cookie?)

Yeah, I get that too...but put it this way, no matter how hot you were you still wouldn't want to have sex with yourself.

So there's no telling how other people see you :p

It would be nice to know how others see me, then atleast I would know whether I am semi-decent to look at :( unfortunately all I can do is compare, stare then go, "shit, well, better avoid looking at oneself in the mirror" :p

On a good side, its a great way to shock onself into waking up in the morning :)

Oh, and I'm sure if I was hot, I would want to look at my body all day long :) like I said to a gay friend online, if he was naked before me, I would be doing the Waynes World thing of: "I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!" ;)

Haha! I'm not quite sure how that would make anyone feel better (something about the thought is just too utterly wrong to ignore it :D)
But it was a noble effort!
(You want a bit of my Award-cookie?)

:D Of course, subtle misdirection into what I like to refer to as "wtf-land" is always effective in changing anyone's mood. :p

(and sure, thanks :))

It would be nice to know how others see me, then atleast I would know whether I am semi-decent to look at :( unfortunately all I can do is compare, stare then go, "shit, well, better avoid looking at oneself in the mirror" :p

On a good side, its a great way to shock onself into waking up in the morning :)

Oh, and I'm sure if I was hot, I would want to look at my body all day long :) like I said to a gay friend online, if he was naked before me, I would be doing the Waynes World thing of: "I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!" ;)

I've seen your picture. You're not ugly, don't worry about it. :)

It would be nice to know how others see me, then atleast I would know whether I am semi-decent to look at :( unfortunately all I can do is compare, stare then go, "shit, well, better avoid looking at oneself in the mirror" :p

On a good side, its a great way to shock onself into waking up in the morning :)

Oh, and I'm sure if I was hot, I would want to look at my body all day long :) like I said to a gay friend online, if he was naked before me, I would be doing the Waynes World thing of: "I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!" ;)
You know... all you have to do is ask someone...though finding someone who'll honestly tell you what s/he thinks might be difficult. Plus, maybe the person you found who tells you what she thinks of your looks might have a really weird perception of others... so in fact unless you're conducting a scientific research on how you'd score on a beauty scale you'll never know for sure. And even then you can't be sure with all the scientific bias and what not.
Guess you're just out of luck on this one. Just like most people are. ;)

:D Of course, subtle misdirection into what I like to refer to as "wtf-land" is always effective in changing anyone's mood. :p

(and sure, thanks :))

You know, I have enough cookies to go around. I've been baking since Christmas.

I've seen your picture. You're not ugly, don't worry about it. :)

I wanna seeeeeeeeeee... *pouts annoyingly*

:D Of course, subtle misdirection into what I like to refer to as "wtf-land" is always effective in changing anyone's mood. :p

(and sure, thanks :))
Ooh, very well put. I was trying to find an expression for it, but I couldn't come up with anything halfway accurate to describe that 'subtle misdirection into 'wtf-land'' :D

You know, I have enough cookies to go around. I've been baking since Christmas.
Isn't that something you're supposed to do up until christmas? Or is that a Swiss thing?
I wanna seeeeeeeeeee... *pouts annoyingly*
Me too!! *pouts just as annoyingly* :D

Isn't that something you're supposed to do up until christmas? Or is that a Swiss thing?
Me too!! *pouts just as annoyingly* :D

A Swiss thing? I have no idea. I just got a crap load of baking supplies to have for future use, but everyone keeps eating the chocolate chips, coconut and walnuts out of the bags. :mad:

A Swiss thing? I have no idea. I just got a crap load of baking supplies to have for future use, but everyone keeps eating the chocolate chips, coconut and walnuts out of the bags. :mad:
We usually started baking in early December up until Christmas (when everyone was sick of eating way too many cookies ;)).
Mmmh...walnuts and chocolate chips right out of the bags...and eating most of the cookie dough before even baking them... that's half the fun of baking! :D

...but I do wonder at the size of your bags and "everyone's" appetite...snacking entire coconuts? Crunchy ;)

We usually started baking in early December up until Christmas (when everyone was sick of eating way too many cookies ;)).
Mmmh...walnuts and chocolate chips right out of the bags...and eating most of the cookie dough before even baking them... that's half the fun of baking! :D

...but I do wonder at the size of your bags and "everyone's" appetite...snacking entire coconuts? Crunchy ;)


Coconut shavings, silly! Eating the cookie dough is fun! It's like a traditional thing in my family. Who gets to lick the mixer utensils.

Ah well, I just linked it for Homovox last night and remember where to find it, so here goes again:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10208145&postcount=66

Guess Lovely Boys wouldn't mind, judging from the size of that pic he doesn't seem the shy type. :p

Coconut shavings, silly! Eating the cookie dough is fun! It's like a traditional thing in my family. Who gets to lick the mixer utensils.
Oh... I see :p
And as to who gets to lick the mixer utensils...I've always been in favour of the whole 'survival of the fittest' thing. Except for when my brother was around. ...or anyone 'fitter' than me for that matter ;)

You know, I have enough cookies to go around. I've been baking since Christmas.

Yay! Freshly baked cookies are the *best*. :p

Ooh, very well put. I was trying to find an expression for it, but I couldn't come up with anything halfway accurate to describe that 'subtle misdirection into 'wtf-land'' :D

Heheh :p

Ah well, I just linked it for Homovox last night and remember where to find it, so here goes again:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10208145&postcount=66

Guess Lovely Boys wouldn't mind, judging from the size of that pic he doesn't seem the shy type. :p

Oh not bad at all. I have seen waaaaay worse. Lovely Boys, you'd have to beat the guys off here. Wait. Not like that. Or maybe.... *stops typing*

Maybe it is that the gay guys can make eye contact with a woman for more than 3 seconds :)

I asked a girl once if she would ever date a metro/gay guy, she said no. She says she wants to be the girl in the relationship :D .

I asked a girl once if she would ever date a metro/gay guy, she said no. She says she wants to be the girl in the relationship :D .

That girl was a heterosexist, gender role perpetuating idiot.

I keep hearing the phrase, "how come all the cute guys are gay" (Excluding me), how many straight girls have actually come accross that in real life?
I'm a gay guy, and I have heard this from straight girls quite a few times.

Maybe it is that the gay guys can make eye contact with a woman for more than 3 seconds :)
Yeah, and we can manage *not* letting our gaze wander down to their boobies.

Yeah, and we can manage *not* letting our gaze wander down to their boobies.

Speak for yourself. If the boobies are spectacular, of course I let my gaze wander.

Yeah, and we can manage *not* letting our gaze wander down to their boobies.

I think that was his point. :p

Personally, I don't get the staring at the boobies thing. Boobies are certainly nice, but I generally find the face a much more attractive thing to look at anyway. It would depend somewhat on the face itself and perhaps on the general quality of the boobies, but I think overall, it wouldn't make that much of a difference.

Speak for yourself. If the boobies are spectacular, of course I let my gaze wander.
I really don't understand what's the big deal with women's breasts. They could never hold a candle to a nicely chiseled male upper body. Gotta love those swimmer's builds.

I really don't understand what's the big deal with women's breasts. They could never hold a candle to a nicely chiseled male upper body. Gotta love those swimmer's builds.

Amen!! Preach on :)

Amen!! Preach on :)
*Preaches on about the superiority of a nicely developed man's torso over the female boobies, who are, after all, nothing more but mounds of fat with milk glands meant for babies to suckle on*


[/macho gayness]

I really don't understand what's the big deal with women's breasts. They could never hold a candle to a nicely chiseled male upper body. Gotta love those swimmer's builds.

Of course they can't hold a candle to chiselled male chests, but that doesn't mean they can't hold a candle of their own. I can appreciate either the beauty or the "wow factor" of a pair of nice, big mammaries despite not wanting to lick them, like I tend to want to do with the man chests.

I do also see the beauty in the female physique just I don't want to touch it LOL

I think that was his point. :p

Personally, I don't get the staring at the boobies thing. Boobies are certainly nice, but I generally find the face a much more attractive thing to look at anyway. It would depend somewhat on the face itself and perhaps on the general quality of the boobies, but I think overall, it wouldn't make that much of a difference.
What? Kanabia, I.....I thought we really had something here. You don't like me for my boobies?

....Thank God.

But seriously, even my gay friends do look at boobs a lot. I must say, it was possibly the most confusing and disconcerting moment of my LIFE when, last year, my best friend of 5 years (who is gay, otherwise wouldn't make it into this story) told me he always thought I had "awesome" boobs. I think I actually asked if he was allowed to even look at them.

I do also see the beauty in the female physique just I don't want to touch it LOL
Indeed. Female beauty is like a wild, natural landscape for us to see: beautiful, exotic, but somehow inaccessible, as if our mere touch might corrupt it.

Men, on the other side, are so much fun to corrupt.

Indeed. Female beauty is like a wild, natural landscape for us to see: beautiful, exotic, but somehow inaccessible, as if our mere touch might corrupt it.

Men, on the other side, are so much fun to corrupt.

That they are... Speakin of females, I still enjoy going to club every now and then and getting hit on by the girls... Guess it boosts the self-esteem but hey for their troubles, atleast I buy them a drink :-)

That they are... Speakin of females, I still enjoy going to club every now and then and getting hit on by the girls... Guess it boosts the self-esteem but hey for their troubles, atleast I buy them a drink :-)

I enjoy going to clubs and getting hit on by men. Try it! :p

I keep hearing the phrase, "how come all the cute guys are gay" (Excluding me), how many straight girls have actually come accross that in real life?
I used to say that all the cute guys are either gay or married. It seemed to be true at the time, but now I know that it was a case of the grass being greener on the other side, sorta I liked the gay guys and married guys because I couldn't have them.

Although I do have a theory that gay guys on the whole might be better looking because they take more pride in their appearance and have more confidence (ie aren't nervous around women like straight guys might be) but since I only really know like 10 gay guys in real life, I don't think I can prove it.

I enjoy going to clubs and getting hit on by men. Try it! :p

Gay guys don't hit on me in my area.. They say; "Oh we're intimidated by you." But they have no problem chatting on aim... They say it's my looks but whatever... I'm single and enjoying it hehehe....

I used to say that all the cute guys are either gay or married. It seemed to be true at the time, but now I know that it was a case of the grass being greener on the other side, sorta I liked the gay guys and married guys because I couldn't have them.

Although I do have a theory that gay guys on the whole might be better looking because they take more pride in their appearance and have more confidence (ie aren't nervous around women like straight guys might be) but since I only really know like 10 gay guys in real life, I don't think I can prove it.


Pick out an outfit, shower, shave, cover up the face, do the hair, get dressed, get approval, and there ya go my typical pre-going out experience.. Oh, I forgot, in the midst of it all, a glass of wine or a martini...

Gay guys don't hit on me in my area.. They say; "Oh we're intimidated by you."

Why?

Why?

Well it's a long story... But I guess it has something to do with looks and my stature when I'm out and about... In my area everything is very clicky....

Well it's a long story... But I guess it has something to do with looks and my stature when I'm out and about... In my area everything is very clicky....

And what is it about your looks and "stature" that scares them away?

And what is it about your looks and "stature" that scares them away?

Personally, I don't see it. I don't have an ego or anything just restating what's been said to me over the years.. I guess its the blonde hair, blue eyes, tan, toned and how I carry myself when I'm out. I was never a whore but I did get a lot of attention when I was 18-20... I guess it carried with me even to this day...

Pick out an outfit, shower, shave, cover up the face, do the hair, get dressed, get approval, and there ya go my typical pre-going out experience.. Oh, I forgot, in the midst of it all, a glass of wine or a martini...
yeah, but most of the straight guys around here, their pre-going out ritual is "make sure there isn't too much mud on my truck and change from my work shirt into a beer t-shirt" see the gay guys around here have the whole "take a shower and comb my hair" thing down. ;)

In fact, when I was dating my husband people kept asking me if he was gay because he would you know, put on clean clothes, brush his teeth and shave before he would come see me, even if we weren't "going anywhere". He is just always wants to look his best, heck my guy friends used to think he was weird because he would take a shower on the weekend. :rolleyes:

Girls like clean guys, gay guys (or the ones I know) are almost always clean.

And I think some of it had to do with my attitude... I never took crap from anyone and I speak my mind....

I keep hearing the phrase, "how come all the cute guys are gay" (Excluding me), how many straight girls have actually come accross that in real life?

I know a gay guy who has no luck gettin a guy for himself, but literally has girls all over him.
Lucky bastard

yeah, but most of the straight guys around here, their pre-going out ritual is "make sure there isn't too much mud on my truck and change from my work shirt into a beer t-shirt" see the gay guys around here have the whole "take a shower and comb my hair" thing down. ;)

In fact, when I was dating my husband people kept asking me if he was gay because he would you know, put on clean clothes, brush his teeth and shave before he would come see me, even if we weren't "going anywhere". He is just always wants to look his best, heck my guy friends used to think he was weird because he would take a shower on the weekend. :rolleyes:

Girls like clean guys, gay guys (or the ones I know) are almost always clean.
I'm impressed that as Bible Belty as you are down there, you still have enough gay guys to warrant mention.

I mean, KC's got tons, yeah.....but you're not exactly in a thriving, non-Bible-y area, are you?

yeah, but most of the straight guys around here, their pre-going out ritual is "make sure there isn't too much mud on my truck and change from my work shirt into a beer t-shirt" see the gay guys around here have the whole "take a shower and comb my hair" thing down. ;)

In fact, when I was dating my husband people kept asking me if he was gay because he would you know, put on clean clothes, brush his teeth and shave before he would come see me, even if we weren't "going anywhere". He is just always wants to look his best, heck my guy friends used to think he was weird because he would take a shower on the weekend. :rolleyes:

Girls like clean guys, gay guys (or the ones I know) are almost always clean.


I wont go a day without a shower hehehe.. and also part of the going out ritual is the eyebrows.. Gotta have nice eyebrows... Not girlie ones just ones that are groomed lol

I know a gay guy who has no luck gettin a guy for himself, but literally has girls all over him.
Lucky bastard
Tell him I said "welcome to the club", willya?


For all the good it does us...

Simonist']I'm impressed that as Bible Belty as you are down there, you still have enough gay guys to warrant mention.

I mean, KC's got tons, yeah.....but you're not exactly in a thriving, non-Bible-y area, are you?
yeah, we have a few. We even have gay bars that are common knowledge and an entire gay district (it's near the art district) lol

it's not so bad in the 'big city', or not so good depending on how you look at it, I suppose.

Tell him I said "welcome to the club", willya?


For all the good it does us...

Like my prior post said, "I can't find a guy either." Been since May.... *Sigh* But atleast I'm getting use to it...

Like my prior post said, "I can't find a guy either." Been since May.... *Sigh* But atleast I'm getting use to it...
I've been single for longer (over a year). I can't say I appreciate it, but I did relearn how to live alone. Although, it would admittedly be fun to have someone to smooch and cuddle on a regular basis *dreamy sigh*

I've been single for longer (over a year). I can't say I appreciate it, but I did relearn how to live alone. Although, it would admittedly be fun to have someone to smooch and cuddle on a regular basis *dreamy sigh*

That would be nice.... But I have the warmth of a glass of wine and the soothing sounds of Madonna to rock me to sleep at night lol

Choose?! No babe, we're born fabulous :D
OR MAYBE YOU PEOPLE JUST SPEND TOO MUCH MAINTENANCE WITH YOUR LOOKS! Sorry, sorry. I just have a thing against you "pretty people" because you all make others envy you and seem that you're above everyone else. Damn you all with so much Pride and with great Pride comes great Envy. That's two Deadly Sins people, like you, have commited.

OR MAYBE YOU PEOPLE JUST SPEND TOO MUCH MAINTENANCE WITH YOUR LOOKS! Sorry, sorry. I just have a thing against you "pretty people" because you all make others envy you and seem that you're above everyone else. Damn you all with so much Pride and with great Pride comes great Envy. That's two Deadly Sins people, like you, have commited.

Why is it wrong to want to look good? It's not about envy. I don't try to look good to attract others, I want to look good for me and no one else. I take pride in my appearance....

I never said it was wrong, I said that I don't like it when people care too much about their appearence a.k.a Preps! Yes, I want to look nice and clean for myself, but I kinda want my looks to repel others.

I'm a pre-transition transsexual, and thus I'm not only a streight girl, but I'm a gay guy, depending on how you look at it.

I never said it was wrong, I said that I don't like it when people care too much about their appearence a.k.a Preps! Yes, I want to look nice and clean for myself, but I kinda want my looks to repel others.


Why would you want your looks to repel others?

Why would you want your looks to repel others?
I'm a scary guy. Plus: I do want myself to stand out really.

I'm a scary guy. Plus: I do want myself to stand out really.


Thats respectable man... No need for everyone to look like a clone... But seriously, not all of us are vain pricks when it comes to looks, granted a vast majority are...

I'm a scary guy. Plus: I do want myself to stand out really.
Just dye your hair a funny colour. You'll stand out without being unnatractive or smelling weird. An aquintance of mine cut her hair very short and had it dyed in a leopard skin pattern - it looked really awesome.

I've notied that often when you look unusual, but people find out that you're actually a non-scary, interesting person, you'll make alot of friends. People just need a little tidbit to grab onto initially and spark a converstaion.

Thats respectable man... No need for everyone to look like a clone... But seriously, not all of us are vain pricks when it comes to looks, granted a vast majority are...
Well, I go to school, and pretty much the entire "popular poulation" care for their looks, I haven't been to every school so I wouldn't know that. I hope from what you claim, is true.
But you wanna know something scary? An extremely fat girl who thinks she's good looking and better than anyone else wear's so much makeup that she looks like a circus pig!

ridiculous...

Nice guys are not gay ! That's desinformation, look at the pope so cute he looks, and he's not gay !

Heretics...

How do you know he isn't gay? Did he tell you?

I'm a pre-transition transsexual, and thus I'm not only a streight girl, but I'm a gay guy, depending on how you look at it.

*figures* so you're interested in guys, but are you a girl transitioning into guyhood, or a guy transitioning into girlhood?

Well, I go to school, and pretty much the entire "popular poulation" care for their looks, I haven't been to every school so I wouldn't know that. I hope from what you claim, is true.
But you wanna know something scary? An extremely fat girl who thinks she's good looking and better than anyone else wear's so much makeup that she looks like a circus pig!

HHAHAHA at the circus pig.. Hey in HS I wasn't popular... I had a mullet hahaha It wasn't until I left HS that I cut and dyed the hair and started paying attention to how I look... But I never forgot where I came from... I don't judge people based on looks, I wont lie, looks do have some effect... But my mantra is; Looks fade, personality stays....

OR MAYBE YOU PEOPLE JUST SPEND TOO MUCH MAINTENANCE WITH YOUR LOOKS! Sorry, sorry. I just have a thing against you "pretty people" because you all make others envy you and seem that you're above everyone else. Damn you all with so much Pride and with great Pride comes great Envy. That's two Deadly Sins people, like you, have commited.
Well it's not like the Pretty People are committing Envy. It's actually the ugly people, like I'd assume you think you are (judging by your hatred of the pretty, at least), who are committing the sin of Envy.

Pot. Meet Kettle.

As a "pretty person", I don't really put any effort or anything into my look about 90% of the time. The only time I do is when it's for a special occasion.

And by the way, did you know, religiously speaking, that the Pride they speak of is actually more symbolic of the life-stopping pride that keeps people from doing their Christian duty by another? Not the average person's "I have pretty eyes, so I'm going to play them up because they're my best feature".

Learn something thoroughly before you try to use it against others.

Here's my half assed theory I'm coming up with right now-

Gay dudes, being gay, know what looks good about dudes. Straight dudes actively avoid knowing what looks good about dudes to avoid being accused of being gay. So if a straight dude looks good, it's really just an accident, or they got lucky or whatever. But gay dudes look good because they know what they're going for.
I disagree. I am happy when I look visually pleasing to me (in a manly way, I don't turn myself feminine) - I don't try to conform to formulae.

Well for me, I tend not to spend much time with straight guys, purely because i have nothing in common with them, that is, the usual blokey stuff of cars, women, sports etc.

Maybe you should spend more time with us. A surprisingly large number of us are not interested in cars or sports (sorry about the women, but that's what makes us straight). Stereotypes suck. What are you interested in?

BTW, you're not ugly. Though obviously lacking in camera skills, judging by this picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/kaiwai/IM000303.jpg). You've got lovely hair.

I don't know...all gay guys I've met so far were really attractive in one way or another. ... Maybe it's got to do with being more relaxed around girls, with having certain similar interests (like for example... what show to watch on tv ;)) or treating girls differently (for obvious reasons).
In fact.... I really have no clue what makes them this cool... they just are :D
Good post. You are onto something there. Gay dudes feel no need to appease women they hang around with. Humans in general don't like constant approval-seeking behaviour. If more straight guys had a clue about this then they would be more successful too.

I asked a girl once if she would ever date a metro/gay guy, she said no. She says she wants to be the girl in the relationship
Good answer. I doubt any striaght girl in her right mind would like to go out with a gay dude.

That girl was a heterosexist, gender role perpetuating idiot.
I hope that this is a joke!

Speak for yourself. If the boobies are spectacular, of course I let my gaze wander.
Maybe you're not as gay as you think!

HHAHAHA at the circus pig.. Hey in HS I wasn't popular... I had a mullet hahaha It wasn't until I left HS that I cut and dyed the hair and started paying attention to how I look... But I never forgot where I came from... I don't judge people based on looks, I wont lie, looks do have some effect... But my mantra is; Looks fade, personality stays....
See, that's the thing that confuses me....in high school, and now in college, I am pretty popular, and people tell me I"m pretty so I can't deny that it could be a part of it, but it never was and still isn't just the pretty people who are popular. It seems to me it's always been more about who you are as a person than how you look after all the primping and artificiality.

Simonist']See, that's the thing that confuses me....in high school, and now in college, I am pretty popular, and people tell me I"m pretty so I can't deny that it could be a part of it, but it never was and still isn't just the pretty people who are popular. It seems to me it's always been more about who you are as a person than how you look after all the primping and artificiality.

Maybe its just the city I grew up in... 13,000 filled with spoiled brats LOL When I was in HS... the pretty people were popular... I actually didn't get popular till my senior year... I always did throw the best parties LOL But that was before I was "gay"

Maybe its just the city I grew up in... 13,000 filled with spoiled brats LOL When I was in HS... the pretty people were popular... I actually didn't get popular till my senior year... I always did throw the best parties LOL But that was before I was "gay"
Yeah, I think at my HS you got bonus points for being gay or something. Not sure. The GSA was the third most "powerful" club/organisation at the school, behind choir (which won because of sheer mass) and theatre.

(Oh Jesus, Annie is on. I'm going to have to kill myself for not getting the TV off before that goddamn song came on)

Simonist']Yeah, I think at my HS you got bonus points for being gay or something. Not sure. The GSA was the third most "powerful" club/organisation at the school, behind choir (which won because of sheer mass) and theatre.

(Oh Jesus, Annie is on. I'm going to have to kill myself for not getting the TV off before that goddamn song came on)

HAHA at the annie thing.... Around here, being gay was a no no back when I was in school... But a lot of my peers came out after finding out that *gasp* a once homophobe is gay... I'm not proud of it, but I was a homophobe in HS :(

*figures* so you're interested in guys, but are you a girl transitioning into guyhood, or a guy transitioning into girlhood?

guy transitioning into girlhood

guy transitioning into girlhood

If it's to personal, just tell me to go to hell, but how do you decide to want the operating?? Like did you always feel like you had the wrong body? And again if its to personal, I apologize...

That girl was a heterosexist, gender role perpetuating idiot.

Don't be so negative about other people's life styles.


:D

Don't be so negative about other people's life styles.


:D
It's what Fass does. That's how he rolls.

You know... all you have to do is ask someone...though finding someone who'll honestly tell you what s/he thinks might be difficult. Plus, maybe the person you found who tells you what she thinks of your looks might have a really weird perception of others... so in fact unless you're conducting a scientific research on how you'd score on a beauty scale you'll never know for sure. And even then you can't be sure with all the scientific bias and what not.
Guess you're just out of luck on this one. Just like most people are. ;)

Yeah, unfortunately people have this damn annoying habbit of being polite, which is a fat load of use to me, when I want a blunt assessment :)

Ah well, I just linked it for Homovox last night and remember where to find it, so here goes again:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10208145&postcount=66

Guess Lovely Boys wouldn't mind, judging from the size of that pic he doesn't seem the shy type. :p

:P When I'm on my iMac, its set at 1680 x 1050, so as you can guess, things are rather small :) I generally speaking, try to scale it down further, as long as the picture is under 150K, I'm happy - it kills the bandwidth something terrible if I were to keep it at the native resolution.

Yeah, and we can manage *not* letting our gaze wander down to their boobies.

Meh, thats what ensures I maintain eye contact - boobies <shudder>

Now, nothing against females, but I find them rather unappealing, border lining on the 'what do straight guys find so interesting about them?!"

I fell in love with a gay guy, but he was far from cute. He's ugly, and rude, and an idiot, but I love him.

But there are many cute gay/possibly gay guys. I think it's the hygene factor.

I fell in love with a gay guy, but he was far from cute. He's ugly, and rude, and an idiot, but I love him.

But there are many cute gay/possibly gay guys. I think it's the hygene factor.

Meh, I think it's because straight women don't know where to go to find cute, straight guys, and also because gay men tend to have far more common pursuits than do straight men and women--you won't find many straight guys, for instance, at Pier 1 or the mall for any length of time, since in my experience straight men operate on the principle that the fewer other people crowding around them, the better. By contrast, I don't often note really hot women in the philosophy section of the local library, which is far more likely where you would find me.

Don't be so negative about other people's life styles.

:D

Being an idiot is not a lifestyle despite certain people's attempts to give that appearance.

Meh, I think it's because straight women don't know where to go to find cute, straight guys, and also because gay men tend to have far more common pursuits than do straight men and women--you won't find many straight guys, for instance, at Pier 1 or the mall for any length of time, since in my experience straight men operate on the principle that the fewer other people crowding around them, the better. By contrast, I don't often note really hot women in the philosophy section of the local library, which is far more likely where you would find me.

The only guys who will consent to speak with me are somehow affiliated with my school's drama program. That makes it so that I meet more gay guys than straight ones.

I disagree. I am happy when I look visually pleasing to me (in a manly way, I don't turn myself feminine) - I don't try to conform to formulae.

True - I like getting up, having a shave, exfoliating (sp?), straightening my hair, etc. etc. Then looking in the mirror and seeing something resembles ok - and i have to admit, if I don't look good, I don't feel good.

BTW, you're not ugly. Though obviously lacking in camera skills, judging by this picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/kaiwai/IM000303.jpg). You've got lovely hair.

Yeah, only way I could do a picture was via the old mirror trick.

Maybe this would be a better one http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/kaiwai/flathair/IM000314.jpg

yeah, the hair is a nightmare, I get up, have a shower, I towl dry it, straighten it, then put anti-fizz leave in conditioner etc. etc. I swear I have more chemicals in my cupboard than the US has in its whole arsinal :)

I don't agree with the particular sentiment (as expressed by the original poster) but I can certainly empathize with it.

I keep hearing the phrase, "how come all the cute guys are gay" (Excluding me), how many straight girls have actually come accross that in real life?
i have, and have found for the most part that it is true

Doesn't matter, the pope doesn't date.

They really oughta amend that...back on topic.

I once knew a girl (straight) who knew a gay guy, and they hung out alot as shopping buddies. It's already been said, they probably feel comfortable around them.

Yeah, only way I could do a picture was via the old mirror trick.

Maybe this would be a better one http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/kaiwai/flathair/IM000314.jpg

yeah, the hair is a nightmare, I get up, have a shower, I towl dry it, straighten it, then put anti-fizz leave in conditioner etc. etc. I swear I have more chemicals in my cupboard than the US has in its whole arsinal :)
No I mean you should have turned off the flash! Flashing a camera in front of window, let alone a mirror, is just asking for trouble!

i have, and have found for the most part that it is true
You just want what you can never have!