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It's illegal to ask someone if they'd like to have oral sex in OK?

Free Soviets
05-01-2006, 20:59
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5845859/detail.html


OKLAHOMA CITY -- An executive committee member of the Southern Baptist Convention was arrested on a lewdness charge for propositioning a plainclothes policeman outside a hotel, police said.

Lonnie Latham, senior pastor at South Tulsa Baptist Church, was booked into Oklahoma County Jail Tuesday night on a misdemeanor charge of offering to engage in an act of lewdness, police Capt. Jeffrey Becker said. Latham was released on $500 bail Wednesday afternoon.

Latham, who has spoken out against homosexuality, asked the officer to join him in his hotel room for oral sex. Latham was arrested and his 2005 Mercedes automobile was impounded, Becker said.

Calls to Latham at his church were not immediately returned Wednesday.

When he left jail, he said:

"I was set up. I was in the area pastoring to police."

The arrest took place in the parking lot of the Habana Inn, which is in an area where the public has complained about male prostitutes flagging down cars, Becker said. The plainclothes officers was investigating these complaints.

The lewdness charge carries a penalty of up to one year in jail and a $2,500 fine.

Latham is one of four Southern Baptist Convention executive committee members from Oklahoma.

He spoke out last year against a measure, ultimately approved by voters, to expand tribal gaming.

He has also spoken out against same-sex marriage and in support of a Southern Baptist Convention directive urging its 42,000 churches to befriend gays and lesbians and try to convince them that they can become heterosexual "if they accept Jesus Christ as their savior and reject their 'sinful, destructive lifestyle."'

The Southern Baptist Convention is the nation's largest Protestant denomination.
Megaloria
05-01-2006, 21:01
Jail'd!
Free Soviets
05-01-2006, 21:05
to quote pz myers (http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/stand_up_for_lonnie_latham/)

"My first thought wasn't that it was shocking that a Baptist anti-gay crusader wanted illicit sexual release, but to wonder that it is apparently illegal to simply ask for oral sex in Oklahoma. Is it coercive? Are Oklahomans all so flamingly gay (but repressed) that they can't just say no?"


Free Lonnie!
Eruantalon
05-01-2006, 21:10
Obviously his "conversion" method doesn't work. If you're going to try something like that, at least don't be a hypocrite about it.
Sumamba Buwhan
05-01-2006, 21:26
lol - I think it's a stupid law but it's funny that the anti-homosexual guy got brought up on charges for offering oral sex to an undercover cop! hah! serves him right for his hypocrisy.


Other stupid/wierd laws:

Alabama: It is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle.

Arkansas: A man can legally beat his wife, but not more than once a month.

Arizona: It is illegal to wear suspenders in Nogles, AZ.

California: In Blythe, California, a person must own two cows in order to legally wear cowboy boots in public.

and

In Los Angeles, a man is legally entitled to beat his wife with a leather belt or strap, but the belt can't be wider than 2 inches, unless he has his wife's consent to beat her with a wider strap.

Colorado: In Logan County, it is illegal for a man to kiss a woman while she is asleep.

Connecticut: In Devon, Connecticut, it is unlawful to walk backwards after sunset.


Take The WIerd US Laws Quiz (http://www.funtrivia.com/quizdetails.cfm?quiz=198538)
Free Soviets
05-01-2006, 21:29
Obviously his "conversion" method doesn't work. If you're going to try something like that, at least don't be a hypocrite about it.

but he was framed, i tell ya. all he wanted to do was to engage in a little man loving for jesus.


i also like that he was driving around in a 2005 mercedes. must be some new interpretation to the "sell all you own and give to the poor" idea.
Liverbreath
05-01-2006, 21:31
Lewdness charges are one of those laws that can be applied when when you can't really pin anything else on the pest. Is it illegal to ask someone for oral sex? The answer is probably yes and no. No, it is not illegal, unless of course the person you ask, is offended. If she or he yell's "That man asked me for a blow job and I am offended", your shit is weak, and they will arrest you, print your name in the paper and ruin your business, social and family life. End any hope for future employment and eventually extort what remaining assests you have left after your divorce to cover the expenses in legitimizing your plea bargin.

A word to the wise...never ever look at a woman in public with your hand in your pocket!
Teh_pantless_hero
05-01-2006, 21:37
Alabama: It is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle.
I sure hope so.
Iztatepopotla
05-01-2006, 21:55
but he was framed, i tell ya. all he wanted to do was to engage in a little man loving for jesus.

Maybe that was the policeman's name, and he suddenly wanted to witness his coming.
Dodudodu
05-01-2006, 21:56
lol - I think it's a stupid law but it's funny that the anti-homosexual guy got brought up on charges for offering oral sex to an undercover cop! hah! serves him right for his hypocrisy.


Other stupid/wierd laws:

Alabama: It is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle.

Arkansas: A man can legally beat his wife, but not more than once a month.

Arizona: It is illegal to wear suspenders in Nogles, AZ.

California: In Blythe, California, a person must own two cows in order to legally wear cowboy boots in public.

and

In Los Angeles, a man is legally entitled to beat his wife with a leather belt or strap, but the belt can't be wider than 2 inches, unless he has his wife's consent to beat her with a wider strap.

Colorado: In Logan County, it is illegal for a man to kiss a woman while she is asleep.

Connecticut: In Devon, Connecticut, it is unlawful to walk backwards after sunset.


Take The WIerd US Laws Quiz (http://www.funtrivia.com/quizdetails.cfm?quiz=198538)

In Rhode Island its illegal to throw pickle juice at someone on a trolley.
Sumamba Buwhan
05-01-2006, 21:58
I sure hope so.


Yeah well that law isn't so much stupid as it is wierd.
Eruantalon
05-01-2006, 22:03
A word to the wise...never ever look at a woman in public with your hand in your pocket!
I suppose drooling at the same time would be completely out of the question, then?
Bitchkitten
05-01-2006, 22:20
Oh please, people, this is a state where tatooing is illegal. For tatoos and decent , we drive to Texas.
They were convinced liquor by the drink was going to bring in the mafia. A few years ago you couldn't even order a mixed drink.

Effing public library computer.
Blanked out the word * * * .
Neutered Sputniks
05-01-2006, 22:24
Oh please, people, this is a state where tatooing is illegal. For tatoos and decent , we drive to Texas.
They were convinced liquor by the drink was going to bring in the mafia. A few years ago you couldn't even order a mixed drink.

Effing public library computer.
Blanked out the word * * * .

Which part of BFE, OK do you live in exactly? I grew up in Oklahoma...
Bitchkitten
05-01-2006, 22:27
Which part of BFE, OK do you live in exactly? I grew up in Oklahoma...

Seminole County.
The town I live in is about 35 miles north of Ada and 75 miles southeast of OKC.
Iztatepopotla
05-01-2006, 22:33
Wasn't OK supposed to be Indian Territory? What happened?
Free Soviets
05-01-2006, 23:53
bump for jesus
Vetalia
05-01-2006, 23:57
Couldn't it be considered sexual harassment to walk up to someone and randomly proposition them for oral sex?
Smunkeeville
06-01-2006, 00:10
In Oklahoma it is illegal to have oral sex, it is considered a lewd act. Basically anything except missionary postition for the purposes of procreation is illegal here. It is almost never enforced, unless they have you on something else and the lewd act is involved (ie they find you with porn, and a tape of you and your partner engaged in oral sex) yes porn is illegal in Oklahoma. Yes, I break the law (my husband had a vasectomy, so when we have sex we aren't trying to procreate)
Liverbreath
06-01-2006, 00:21
In Oklahoma it is illegal to have oral sex, it is considered a lewd act. Basically anything except missionary postition for the purposes of procreation is illegal here. It is almost never enforced, unless they have you on something else and the lewd act is involved (ie they find you with porn, and a tape of you and your partner engaged in oral sex) yes porn is illegal in Oklahoma. Yes, I break the law (my husband had a vasectomy, so when we have sex we aren't trying to procreate)

I think they may have had to change the sodomy laws since the supreme court shot down the Texas law Smunkeeville. I might be wrong but I know Kansas had to alter them, and I think most other states did too.
Straughn
06-01-2006, 01:02
Maybe that was the policeman's name, and he suddenly wanted to witness his coming.
You'll burn for that joke. Burn, burn, burn.
Someday. Burn.
Meanwhile we'll be sizzling and hoping for revenge while our spleens writhe in agony.
Agony, i tell you. Burn.
Straughn
06-01-2006, 01:05
Yes, I break the law
rest of text omitted for continuity and respect
Breakin' the law! Breakin' the law!
*takes out his leather and metal and does a poor emulation of Rob Halford's ONSTAGE antics*
Smunkeeville
06-01-2006, 01:08
I think they may have had to change the sodomy laws since the supreme court shot down the Texas law Smunkeeville. I might be wrong but I know Kansas had to alter them, and I think most other states did too.
actually we are supposed to have changed it, but it hasn't really happened yet. It's kinda one of those federal/state issues like where marijuana is illegal federally but some states have medicinal marijuana laws, it always gets fishy, it's like federally the law is something but state-wise it is something else.
Lost-hope
06-01-2006, 01:19
Originally Posted by Iztatepopotla
Maybe that was the policeman's name, and he suddenly wanted to witness his coming.

Best. Post. Yet.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
06-01-2006, 01:40
When he left jail, he said:

"I was set up. I was in the area pastoring to police."


Aahahaha :p. Seriously, what a douche.
Erisian Delight
06-01-2006, 03:01
This all seems blatantly unconstitution, but without details it could have been sexual harassment.

If you want to hear something really crazy, I was told today that under Oregon (where I live) law it's illegal for minors to have sex. I don't know the authenticity but it came from someone's sister who is studying law. I also know for a fact that under Oregon law you are legally a terrorist if you obstruct traffic.
Ashmoria
06-01-2006, 03:41
This all seems blatantly unconstitution, but without details it could have been sexual harassment.

If you want to hear something really crazy, I was told today that under Oregon (where I live) law it's illegal for minors to have sex. I don't know the authenticity but it came from someone's sister who is studying law. I also know for a fact that under Oregon law you are legally a terrorist if you obstruct traffic.
you mean, if two 15 year olds are caught "in the act" they go to JAIL??
Free Soviets
06-01-2006, 04:04
This all seems blatantly unconstitution[al]

oh gawd, i hope so. cause i want him to take it to the supreme court - imagine, a southern baptist leader actually advancing the cause of freedom and gay rights.
Minoriteeburg
06-01-2006, 05:00
i bet butt sex is legal in OK
Demented Hamsters
06-01-2006, 05:19
"I was set up. I was in the area pastoring to police."
Is that what getting a head job is called there?
Zexaland
06-01-2006, 05:27
This all seems blatantly unconstitution, but without details it could have been sexual harassment.

If you want to hear something really crazy, I was told today that under Oregon (where I live) law it's illegal for minors to have sex. I don't know the authenticity but it came from someone's sister who is studying law. I also know for a fact that under Oregon law you are legally a terrorist if you obstruct traffic.

Osama Bin Laden is planning to make you late for work and congest smog! OH NOEZ!!1!1:p
Free Soviets
06-01-2006, 05:37
i bet butt sex is legal in OK

it is. but apparently it is illegal for hypocritical homophobic homosexuals to offer head outside hotels. which is a damn shame.
Erisian Delight
06-01-2006, 07:09
Osama Bin Laden is planning to make you late for work and congest smog! OH NOEZ!!1!1:p

In Oregon, we fight the dreaded we fight smog--make that terrorism--with buses. The buses say so on their bumper.
Straughn
06-01-2006, 07:43
it is. but apparently it is illegal for hypocritical homophobic homosexuals to offer head outside hotels. which is a damn shame.
Ever moreso the shame when one considers the percentage qualified by that definition ... ;)
Free Soviets
06-01-2006, 19:57
bump for the good ol' boys
West Pacific
06-01-2006, 20:12
For some reason I don't think this guy will have any problems making friends in prison, I don't know why, just a hunch I have.
Celtlund
07-01-2006, 04:19
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5845859/detail.html


OKLAHOMA CITY -- An executive committee member of the Southern Baptist Convention was arrested on a lewdness charge for propositioning a plainclothes policeman outside a hotel, police said.

Lonnie Latham, senior pastor at South Tulsa Baptist Church, was booked into Oklahoma County Jail Tuesday night on a misdemeanor charge of offering to engage in an act of lewdness, police Capt. Jeffrey Becker said. Latham was released on $500 bail Wednesday afternoon.

Latham, who has spoken out against homosexuality, asked the officer to join him in his hotel room for oral sex. Latham was arrested and his 2005 Mercedes automobile was impounded, Becker said.

Calls to Latham at his church were not immediately returned Wednesday.

When he left jail, he said:

"I was set up. I was in the area pastoring to police."

The arrest took place in the parking lot of the Habana Inn, which is in an area where the public has complained about male prostitutes flagging down cars, Becker said. The plainclothes officers was investigating these complaints.

The lewdness charge carries a penalty of up to one year in jail and a $2,500 fine.

Latham is one of four Southern Baptist Convention executive committee members from Oklahoma.

He spoke out last year against a measure, ultimately approved by voters, to expand tribal gaming.

He has also spoken out against same-sex marriage and in support of a Southern Baptist Convention directive urging its 42,000 churches to befriend gays and lesbians and try to convince them that they can become heterosexual "if they accept Jesus Christ as their savior and reject their 'sinful, destructive lifestyle."'

The Southern Baptist Convention is the nation's largest Protestant denomination.

He resigned today. That's more than Jimmy Swagert did. :( I just love people like him, Swagert, Baker, Roberts, et al. :(
OntheRIGHTside
07-01-2006, 05:12
Colorado: In Logan County, it is illegal for a man to kiss a woman while she is asleep.


You shouldn't take the risk of giving people herpes unless they are awake to consent.