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Mac or PC

The evenhanded
05-01-2006, 08:02
Do you like Macintosh or Windows computers? Please state your reasons!
Cannot think of a name
05-01-2006, 08:12
Mac. It does what I need it to do without giving me the kind of shit a windows machine did. I don't have to forbid 'computer people' from touching it. I like my computer to work for me, not the other way around.

Windows tweakers strike me as spazzes. "Dude, you can't play video games." Yeah, I have a Playstation, I'm good. Games are a distraction, I don't need them to be all that involved. I have other things I can do..."Dude, you can't modify it with a GLX1000 DFREAM MAXIWhatzit." Yeah, don't want to have to. Got my machine two and a half years ago, still works with everything. I'm good.

That and I edit media, the standard program only works on the Mac, so it's all moot anyway.
Kossackja
05-01-2006, 08:14
windows. reason: compatibility with games.
The evenhanded
05-01-2006, 08:16
I like Mac because of its design and reliability. I don't mind windows though.
OntheRIGHTside
05-01-2006, 08:51
You can't have a windows computer, it's an OS, not a CPU.
Helioterra
05-01-2006, 08:56
I use both and I couldn't care less. As long as it works I'm happy. OK Mac laptops are pretty neat and I'd rather buy one of them than anything else. At home I use Linux but it's not really that great. I have to boot to Windows everytime I have to scan something, edit pictures (captured from video) or do some 3d.

At work the video edit is on Windows and sound edit on Mac.
Amecian
05-01-2006, 09:03
You can't have a windows computer, it's an OS, not a CPU.

Perfectionist... :rolleyes:

I like Macs, there solid comps.. but I spend the majority of my p.c. usage writing & gaming so I have Windows.
Of the council of clan
05-01-2006, 09:06
windows


too lazy to try anything different

(played around with Linux for awhile and got bored.)
OntheRIGHTside
05-01-2006, 09:06
Perfectionist... :rolleyes:

I like Macs, there solid comps.. but I spend the majority of my p.c. usage writing & gaming so I have Windows.


I try, I try.
Posi
05-01-2006, 09:16
I prefer Mac OS X to Windows. There are enough games for a gamer like me. Mac applications tend to run more stably than Windows. The fact that their are a few viruses for Mac (there is at least one), compared to the thousands for Windows (there are already viruses for Vista), is a plus but even on my Windows machine I can run without Anti-Virus and not get viruses. Mac does look prettier out of the box, too. Although that is just opinion which will differ from person to person. The better part of Windows is you can choose the hardware you want. I don't mean you can't choose weather you want an ATA, SATA, SATA2, or Ultra ATA harddrive, but they only give you two or three choices of harddrive size. Ultimately, the best OS is a good distro of Linux, like Ubuntu.
Lovely Boys
05-01-2006, 09:38
Do you like Macintosh or Windows computers? Please state your reasons!

Mac: Access to all the mainstream applications I need, whilst giving me the ability to get 'down and dirty' using the UNIX command line, aka, BASH. It gives one the best of both worlds.
Sensual Goddess
05-01-2006, 09:39
All computers suck, regardless of the operating system. They are unreliable, they are expensive to maintain. The electromagnetic radiation is probably killing us. The engergy consumption to use them and to build them is astonomical. And, worst of all, you have to sit in front of it.
Stone Bridges
05-01-2006, 09:42
All computers suck, regardless of the operating system. They are unreliable, they are expensive to maintain. The electromagnetic radiation is probably killing us. The engergy consumption to use them and to build them is astonomical. And, worst of all, you have to sit in front of it.

*wonders if she realizes she is sitting in front of a computer.
Helioterra
05-01-2006, 09:48
All computers suck, regardless of the operating system. They are unreliable, they are expensive to maintain. The electromagnetic radiation is probably killing us. The engergy consumption to use them and to build them is astonomical. And, worst of all, you have to sit in front of it.
Damn right! And how many hours a day you have to sit in front of it! I sometimes wonder if I should get a job in which I don't have to use computers all the time. Last fall was a nightmare as I had some major problems with every computer I use at work.
The Black Forrest
05-01-2006, 09:53
I use everything. Linux, Solaris, Windows, and now have a Mac. Looked at the 10 OS. Meh FreeBSD with a different GUI from the look of it.

I finally got a G4 so I am going to give Tiger a serious look over.

It really doesn't matter much as our industry is pretty much Mac free. Catch-22 for Macs.

The vendor won't write software till enough customers want it. The customers won't ask for it until the vendors have something.

We do have 2 macs but they are only with the Graphics people.
The evenhanded
05-01-2006, 10:23
I just realised that it would be a good idea to attach a poll to this thread.
Pure Metal
05-01-2006, 11:20
i very rarely have problems with windows and it does everything i want it to. plus i have more choices in software and hardware, so why change?
Amecian
05-01-2006, 11:28
In all my years on comps. I have had the most fustrating, hair pulling, keyboard-decking problems with Windows. Everything from the comp partitioning itself, to all my drivers being flushed from the comp - including the ethernet controller.

Despite this I still like it, still use it, but will continue to use both Linux and Windows. (multiple boxes)
Poland-
05-01-2006, 11:37
Mac. It does what I need it to do without giving me the kind of shit a windows machine did. I don't have to forbid 'computer people' from touching it. I like my computer to work for me, not the other way around.

Windows tweakers strike me as spazzes. "Dude, you can't play video games." Yeah, I have a Playstation, I'm good. Games are a distraction, I don't need them to be all that involved. I have other things I can do..."Dude, you can't modify it with a GLX1000 DFREAM MAXIWhatzit." Yeah, don't want to have to. Got my machine two and a half years ago, still works with everything. I'm good.

That and I edit media, the standard program only works on the Mac, so it's all moot anyway.
^^ That right there is my answer. Except the Playstation part. X-Box, Gamecube, and Nintendo DS for me. :p

Macs all the way baby!
Wildwolfden
05-01-2006, 12:31
Windows

FYI Mac is a shortend version of Macintosh which is an Apple product
Cannot think of a name
05-01-2006, 12:34
Windows

FYI Mac is a shortend version of Macintosh which is an Apple product
Yeah...the giant apple on all thier products was a dead give away...

That has to be the worst Rueben I've ever seen...
Kanabia
05-01-2006, 12:34
Windows. Console games IMO have mostly sucked since the demise of the SNES, so it's my only option for gaming.
[NS]Cybach
05-01-2006, 12:39
I am a passionate gamer. And programme a bit. Also I upgrade my PC every 2 years or so. The Windows just offers the most advantages to me.
Muffalopadus
05-01-2006, 12:39
Mac. They are awesomely great for editing movies and musics and stuff like that. They just...are!

Too bad almost all games work on windows...:(

*wonders if she realizes she is sitting in front of a computer.

lol.
Wildwolfden
05-01-2006, 12:42
Yeah...the giant apple on all thier products was a dead give away...

That has to be the worst Rueben I've ever seen...
:) LOL
Heron-Marked Warriors
05-01-2006, 12:42
Windows, because I'm lazy and scared of the world outside.
Thought transference
05-01-2006, 13:15
Perfectionist... :rolleyes:
...

Don't you mean "pedant"?

:D
The Strogg
05-01-2006, 13:25
I use Mac a lot at work. There they do a lot of graphics and publishing work, and my job requires me to get into it also a few times. There is no substitute for a Mac in this regard. But I don't like them very much -- they are simplistic, inflexible and the interface is dull and unrewarding. And that's just Mac 9... when Mac OSX came along with all those flashy effects, it just became patronising.

I use Windows at home for gaming. Even though Linux can be forced to play Windows games, it's just simpler in Windows and the drivers, sound in particular, are better for my hardware on Windows. I'm not a fan of Windows either though. Though its a lot more flexible than Macs, it also suffers severely for its popularity -- every virus and exploit out there is designed for Windows. And the interface for Windows XP is ugly... baby blue and green? Bleh!

Linux I use for most everything else imaginable at home. Browsing, word processing, keeping my accounts, a little graphics work here and there, keeping important files, etc. The only problem Linux has is that it's a little bit too complicated for a lot of people. SuSe solves some of that, but even then compared to Windows it won't be suitable for the large majority of computer users. Though once you have it set up and tuned it's as simple as Windows, it's just getting there that can be a problem. I love the interface though, I love the security, the reliability, the speed, and the fact that I don't have to reinstall it every six months to keep it running smoothly.
Thought transference
05-01-2006, 13:35
It's got to be Macs for me. I spent a lot of time on IBMs in the days of DOS, then windoze machines. I don't see computers as an end, just as a means to an end, so I want my computer to be "transparent". Any computer I don't have to think about is going to win my vote over one I have to fiddle with to keep going. The windoze security aggravation alone was enough to get under my skin, and all the rest of it just makes using a computer too much like hard work.

When I drive nails, I don't want to have to spend a lot of time and effort to adjust, update, secure or re-assemble my hammer first. I just want to pick it up, maybe have a quick look to make sure nothing critical happened to it, and drive the nails. Same with a computer. I've watched my roomie/resident windoze geek re-install windoze on his computers any number of times (he has boxes to run 2000, XP and NT). He says he has to do that sometimes when the OS gets sluggish. I remember the re-install dance from the old DOS/windoze days, so I do sympathize. But...

My experience running Macs has been simple and straightforward. Re-installs I've done of OS8 and OS9 over the years (on 6 machines)? Only for major OS upgrades. None for repairs of "sluggishness". Re-installs I've done of OSX (I have 4 machines running OSX)? Once to upgrade from Panther 10.3.2 to 10.3.9, and once to upgrade to Tiger. Again, none for these "repairs".

So for me, it's Macs every time. They just work. No tantrums, no crankiness, no need to take my eye off the nails to look at the hammer.
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 13:38
You can't have a windows computer, it's an OS, not a CPU.
If you want to be technical MAC does not make a CPU
Right now IBM does (soon switching to Intel) and Motorola made their old ones.
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 13:39
Windows. Console games IMO have mostly sucked since the demise of the SNES, so it's my only option for gaming.
Not a console gamer here as well
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 13:41
Anyways I voted Linux

I am A FreeBSD and Ubuntu fan right now

Those are my preferred OS’s
My dual processor machine still is windows though (mainly because I cant get a *Nix system up and running on it … driver issues with my Nforce4 board)
Jeruselem
05-01-2006, 13:43
Do you like Macintosh or Windows computers? Please state your reasons!

What's a Mac? Aa PC with a Mac OS on it! That's the Intel Macs.
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 13:44
What's a Mac? Aa PC with a Mac OS on it! That's the Intel Macs.
Yeah I am wondering if they are going to hold their edge in video and audo work with the hardware switch

Or if the only advantage they will hold in those fields will end up being just software
Kanabia
05-01-2006, 13:47
My dual processor machine still is windows though (mainly because I cant get a *Nix system up and running on it … driver issues with my Nforce4 board)

I gave Linux a shot, but I had the same problem (not running dual, but it didn't like my motherboard, right down to not accepting keyboard input) I forget which build I used.
Jeruselem
05-01-2006, 13:51
Yeah I am wondering if they are going to hold their edge in video and audo work with the hardware switch

Or if the only advantage they will hold in those fields will end up being just software

No AltiTec (or something like that) on the Intels which is on the G4 and G5s.
It made the difference but Rosetta does not support it.

But give someone a dual core Athlon 64 with decent video card - that will do the job.
Greenham
05-01-2006, 13:51
Apple/Macintosh is far superior than pc's for real nuts & bolts work unless you spend your life playing video games on the computer. PC's I'll admit are better for gaming on, but why waste your time with video games?
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 13:53
I gave Linux a shot, but I had the same problem (not running dual, but it didn't like my motherboard, right down to not accepting keyboard input) I forget which build I used.
Well if ya ever give it a shot try the new Ubuntu

Its one of thoes ultra easy desktop solutions
Solid
Light
Pretty idiot proof

And comes up with all kinds of goodies stock like firefox and openoffice
Jeruselem
05-01-2006, 13:54
Apple/Macintosh is far superior than pc's for real nuts & bolts work unless you spend your life playing video games on the computer. PC's I'll admit are better for gaming on, but why waste your time with video games?

Because work is boring ... :D
I'm also Sys Admin. Need to kill someone or something at times.
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 13:54
Apple/Macintosh is far superior than pc's for real nuts & bolts work unless you spend your life playing video games on the computer. PC's I'll admit are better for gaming on, but why waste your time with video games?
And what REAL difference is there for doing the “nuts and bolts” day to day stuff is there between the two?
Kanabia
05-01-2006, 13:57
Well if ya ever give it a shot try the new Ubuntu

Its one of thoes ultra easy desktop solutions
Solid
Light
Pretty idiot proof

And comes up with all kinds of goodies stock like firefox and openoffice

I'll give it a shot. I'm going to switch the HD on this one soon so i'll see if I can set up a dual-boot system (with a separate linux partition).

Apple/Macintosh is far superior than pc's for real nuts & bolts work unless you spend your life playing video games on the computer. PC's I'll admit are better for gaming on, but why waste your time with video games?

Because they're fun. Why waste time watching movies? Why waste time posting on NS? Etc.
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 13:57
Because work is boring ... :D
I'm also Sys Admin. Need to kill someone or something at times.
Agreed ... someone needs to make a starcraft skin to some of the AV checkers out there

I think that would be sweet!
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 13:59
I'll give it a shot. I'm going to switch the HD on this one soon so i'll see if I can set up a dual-boot system (with a separate linux partition).



Because they're fun. Why waste time watching movies? Why waste time posting on NS? Etc.
Yeah its based off of debian so it has some killer util's like apt-get ... good desktop distro

Its got me hooked lol
Greenham
05-01-2006, 14:04
Because work is boring ... :D
I'm also Sys Admin. Need to kill someone or something at times.

Yeah even in the best jobs time tends to drag on occasion. I can understand your need to kill something as I'm sure you experience plenty of headaches with your job.
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 14:11
Hey slackers I just ran across this
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php

It is an online "test' to help determine which linux distro best fits you
I ended up with ubuntu ... go figure lol
Jeruselem
05-01-2006, 14:17
Hey slackers I just ran across this
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php

It is an online "test' to help determine which linux distro best fits you
I ended up with ubuntu ... go figure lol

Linspire or Xandros.
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 14:20
Linspire or Xandros.
Is that what the test told you? or what you use? or both lol
Jeruselem
05-01-2006, 14:22
Is that what the test told you? or what you use? or both lol

Both ... both are Windows like for slack-ass sysadmins like me who want to avoid text interfaces.
Leechand
05-01-2006, 14:28
Linux since it works like I want it to... I'm "a bit" into tweaking
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 14:31
Both ... both are Windows like for slack-ass sysadmins like me who want to avoid text interfaces.
Yeah that’s why I ended up with ubuntu

I needed an easy desktop solution that was not fatass like fedora (or redhat) and I was a fan of debian

I was tired of all the work to get FreeBSD working as a desktop solution
Its beautifull for a server solution but it took a lot of work to get the thing to a useable state
UpwardThrust
05-01-2006, 14:31
Linux since it works like I want it to... I'm "a bit" into tweaking
Distro?
Lovely Boys
06-01-2006, 05:23
I use everything. Linux, Solaris, Windows, and now have a Mac. Looked at the 10 OS. Meh FreeBSD with a different GUI from the look of it.

I finally got a G4 so I am going to give Tiger a serious look over.

It really doesn't matter much as our industry is pretty much Mac free. Catch-22 for Macs.

The vendor won't write software till enough customers want it. The customers won't ask for it until the vendors have something.

We do have 2 macs but they are only with the Graphics people.

You'll probably think I'm strange, but I love Solaris on SPARC, and I love using CDE - its not sexy, but it is stable and reliable.

One disappointment, however, is the lack of upgrades to their SPARC workstation line up, specifically their Blade 150 - up the video card to something with 64MB video memory, throw in a 1Ghz UltraSPARC IIi, and it wouldn't be too bad.
Qwystyria
06-01-2006, 05:38
Windows, largely for familiarity. My computer is nice and reliable, because I built it, and I know how to make it do whatever I want it to do. Macs are supposed to be very intuitive, but I want my computer logical, not intuitive. I'm told I'd like Linux, but then everyone who says that rants on about how customizable it is, and about all these features that sound annoying to me, so I'm just not convinced.
Tibetia
06-01-2006, 05:51
Mac.

Stability and coolness.

:cool:
Dissonant Cognition
06-01-2006, 05:51
Do you like Macintosh or Windows computers?


Linux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux), FreeBSD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD), or any other Free/Open Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free/Open-Source_Software) *nix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*nix) operating system.

Please state your reasons!

Because only they seem to understand that I own my computer.
Posi
06-01-2006, 09:20
Hey slackers I just ran across this
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php

It is an online "test' to help determine which linux distro best fits you
I ended up with ubuntu ... go figure lol
I also got Ubuntu.:)
Free Misesians
06-01-2006, 09:51
to be honest im on a pc, but i voted mac...why?well i liked the old school macs (eg anything released pre os x), they were well built, solid computers with a well built solid operation system. os x...im just not feeling it anymore....i guess its probably just childhood nostalgia
Aeruillin
06-01-2006, 10:00
I use PC, but I am planning to dual-boot with Linux (or even switch completely and then run an emulator). Working with Linux for the first time in my life confirmed everything good I'd heard about it. Still, I can't afford to lose the compatibility of almost all standard software, so I need the dual-boot option.
Thought transference
06-01-2006, 10:13
Because work is boring ... :D
I'm also Sys Admin. Need to kill someone or something at times.

You almost persuade me -- but I think I'll take up paint-balling for when I feel like that.

:mp5:

Ooh, hey! I could even paint-ball a windoze-PC!

:mp5:
:mp5: