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Can Genocide be justified?
Should all Nazi's and Communists be purged?
What about Gays?
Or Atheists?
Christians maybe?
And (if your a really sick person.) Why not the homeless?

This post aims to discuss what we've all thought of doing... (hopefully, i dont want to be the only one!) And that is killing everyone with a different opinion.
Or you might want to kill all those of a different race. (Not me... sicko.) But this post is basically here to incite a heated debate about why christians, atheists, Nazi's, commies, gays and everyone else are WRONG! enjoy.

Genocide is never justified. Why discriminate? Kill off the entire human race. :)

~the Libertarian Concordance of Czardas~
NS Serial Killer

Well, what you propose wouldn't be genocide. That's only when you kill for ethnicity, not an idea or some other non-inherited trait.

Geonocide can never be justified unless by the person committing it. Killing off an entire religion or people of a certain sexualityis vertraly impossable. Killing an entire race is just stupidity. Common sence is the only thing that keeps people from committing it.

Well, what you propose wouldn't be genocide. That's only when you kill for ethnicity, not an idea or some other non-inherited trait.
Dictionary.com defines Genocide as "The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group," so it would be genocide.

Genocide is never justified. Why discriminate? Kill off the entire human race. :)

~the Libertarian Concordance of Czardas~
NS Serial Killer
see, you're still Discriminating... only just the entire Human Race... all living things should be treated equally.
[kills mosquito]
that was self-defense....

Dictionary.com defines Genocide as "The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group," so it would be genocide.Hm... And I always thought the "Geno-" had some kind of meaning that was associated with "race".

Aaah but is it okay to cleanse Nazis? or commies? (Brings out a shotgun and a Communist party membership badge...bee careful ;p) or what about killign off gays? (i say no. some would say yes.)

see, you're still Discriminating... only just the entire Human Race... all living things should be treated equally.
[kills mosquito]
that was self-defense....

What you do to one you must do to all! *kills all living things in Khoen Vanaar except for self*

(That's one reason why I never plan on having sex. :p)

I say screw it all, Lets clean up the gean pool and kill off all the FAGS, Murders, Rapeists, child molesters, NAZIS and France. :sniper: :mp5: :gundge:

This post aims to discuss what we've all thought of doing... (hopefully, i dont want to be the only one!) And that is killing everyone with a different opinion.
Or you might want to kill all those of a different race. (Not me... sicko.) But this post is basically here to incite a heated debate about why christians, atheists, Nazi's, commies, gays and everyone else are WRONG! enjoy.

You sick, sick, monster.

This thread sucks.

I say screw it all, Lets clean up the gean pool and kill off all the FAGS, Murders, Rapeists, child molesters, NAZIS and France. <smilies snipped>Well, not many of those, in fact, perhaps only being French, could be considered in any way genetic...

I say screw it all, Lets clean up the gean pool and kill off all the FAGS, Murders, Rapeists, child molesters, NAZIS and France. :sniper: :mp5: :gundge:
EDITED due to the fact that my suggestion could be interpreted as flaming.

I say we remove fags and frogs from your list and substitute bad spellers and those who overuse gun smileys.

Hope that's not seen as a flame.

This thread sucks.

You see there IS a case for genocide...

I say screw it all, Lets clean up the gean pool and kill off all the FAGS, Murders, Rapeists, child molesters, NAZIS and France. :sniper: :mp5: :gundge:
Great first post.

I say screw it all, Lets clean up the gean poolLet's start with those unable to spell.

Genocide is congealed idiocy.

If you believed in evil, rather than thinking our behaviour/thoughts/feelings are based on context and culture; and if you also thought that our behaviour/thoughts/feelings are based purely on genetics rather than an interaction of genetics, the environment, and experience; then I think you could make a case for genocide - i.e. some sorts of people are born evil.

That's what makes genocide so hideous and so scary; you _can_ argue, quite reasonably, and basing your points on positions that are disputed but not dismissed, that it's a logical thing to do.:eek:

Assuming we're working with the definition, "the systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group," I would say the answer is "no."

However, there are parts of me that wish I could discard the rational, honorable, and thoughful part of my brain for long enough to answer "yes." There are certainly several self-identified "political" groups that I believe the world would be better off without...

Elgesh']If you believed in evil, rather than thinking our behaviour/thoughts/feelings are based on context and culture; and if you also thought that our behaviour/thoughts/feelings are based purely on genetics rather than an interaction of genetics, the environment, and experience; then I think you could make a case for genocide - i.e. some sorts of people are born evil.

That's what makes genocide so hideous and so scary; you _can_ argue, quite reasonably, and basing your points on positions that are disputed but not dismissed, that it's a logical thing to do.:eek:

EXACTLY :D glad someone gets it. The idea is that, they're will always be a particular group of people that make your nose itch. for me it happens to be Right-Wingers ... ... wheres my shotgun

Assuming we're working with the definition, "the systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group," I would say the answer is "no."

However, there are parts of me that wish I could discard the rational, honorable, and thoughful part of my brain for long enough to answer "yes." There are certainly several self-identified "political" groups that I believe the world would be better off without...

Again, very good your getting the idea ;p

However, there are parts of me that wish I could discard the rational, honorable, and thoughful part of my brain for long enough to answer "yes." There are certainly several self-identified "political" groups that I believe the world would be better off without...Those deep dark parts of me don't consider killing the best solution though...

Those deep dark parts of me don't consider killing the best solution though...
There are parts of me that do. I'm not proud of that, but it's the unfortunate reality.

For example, I've come face to face with a "political group" that fights for a man's right to beat and rape his children, free from "government interference." I've listened to them explain how some children deserve to be molested and beaten so badly they are put in the hospital, and how the government is clearly corrupted by Satan because we've got laws that forbid parents to treat their children in this manner. And I've sat there, quietly fantasizing about killing those monsters.

It's a cold, scary, awful place within myself. Thankfully, I don't believe there is any chance I will ever give in to such feelings, but there have been a few times (mercifully few) when I have been forced to confront it.

You see there IS a case for genocide...

What? Killing one bad thread would hardly constitute "genocide".

There are parts of me that do. I'm not proud of that, but it's the unfortunate reality.

For example, I've come face to face with a "political group" that fights for a man's right to beat and rape his children, free from "government interference." I've listened to them explain how some children deserve to be molested and beaten so badly they are put in the hospital, and how the government is clearly corrupted by Satan because we've got laws that forbid parents to treat their children in this manner. And I've sat there, quietly fantasizing about killing those monsters.

It's a cold, scary, awful place within myself. Thankfully, I don't believe there is any chance I will ever give in to such feelings, but there have been a few times (mercifully few) when I have been forced to confront it.
What kind of group holds that opinion?

What? Killing one bad thread would hardly constitute "genocide".

... tell me, is that a family trait or is it just you?

And I've sat there, quietly fantasizing about killing those monsters.

It's a cold, scary, awful place within myself. Thankfully, I don't believe there is any chance I will ever give in to such feelings, but there have been a few times (mercifully few) when I have been forced to confront it.

You... you know no one sane will gainsay you, right? You don't need to lay it on with a trowel!

What kind of group holds that opinion?
I won't dignify them by posting the name, but it is a radical religious organization that used to harass a clinic I worked at. They were angry because the clinic had helped the children of several of their members, by providing counciling and legal advice on how to escape abuse.

Elgesh]
You... you know no one sane will gainsay you, right? You don't need to lay it on with a trowel!

Lol, sorry to be a real buzz kill with that one. The thing is, I don't regard murder as a solution in any sane situation, and so I was trying to explain that only the most extreme sort of insanity can bring out that side in me. I think many people feel more...dare I say...relaxed about the subject of genocide, and that it would take a lot less to convince them that murder is an appropriate solution.

... tell me, is that a family trait or is it just you?

As far as I know, i'm the only one in my family that is so awesome. Why do you ask?

Wow, this has reached two pages and the mod squad hasn't purged it? They must be getting soft.

Ok... so if we're going to talk about genocide... I'd support it in the case of stupid threads. I'd back up the mods in their systematic purge of stupid threads.

Ok... so if we're going to talk about genocide... I'd support it in the case of stupid threads. I'd back up the mods in their systematic purge of stupid threads.

'lo, comrade. :p

I won't dignify them by posting the name, but it is a radical religious organization that used to harass a clinic I worked at. They were angry because the clinic had helped the children of several of their members, by providing counciling and legal advice on how to escape abuse.


Lol, sorry to be a real buzz kill with that one. The thing is, I don't regard murder as a solution in any sane situation, and so I was trying to explain that only the most extreme sort of insanity can bring out that side in me. I think many people feel more...dare I say...relaxed about the subject of genocide, and that it would take a lot less to convince them that murder is an appropriate solution.
Whatever department of your government handles youth and family services should probably pay special attention to those people based on such remarks.

Wow, this has reached two pages and the mod squad hasn't purged it? They must be getting soft.

Ok... so if we're going to talk about genocide... I'd support it in the case of stupid threads. I'd back up the mods in their systematic purge of stupid threads.

The reason it isnt being purged is that obviously the mod squads realise there is a point to this thread other than "Yo, so who rickons these dudes are inferior yaaa'll" The idea behind the thread if youd care to read it instead of goign straight to posting something, is that im trying to say that if you are to say "Nazis are baaad lets shoot them" Why not people with slight nazi tendencies, why not the children of nazi's ect. Its trying to say that if you can accept one sort of Genocide, why not all.

The reason it isnt being purged is that obviously the mod squads realise there is a point to this thread other than "Yo, so who rickons these dudes are inferior yaaa'll" The idea behind the thread if youd care to read it instead of goign straight to posting something, is that im trying to say that if you are to say "Nazis are baaad lets shoot them" Why not people with slight nazi tendencies, why not the children of nazi's ect. Its trying to say that if you can accept one sort of Genocide, why not all.
Sure, that's fine, but there will be someone who comes long and decides to be a total asshole about it and wrecks it for the whole lot by posting something that is purposefully inflammatory, even though they think it directly answeres the question being asked.

Sure, that's fine, but there will be someone who comes long and decides to be a total asshole about it and wrecks it for the whole lot by posting something that is purposefully inflammatory, even though they think it directly answeres the question being asked.

Well then we'll know his NationsName and the fact he believes in genocide. I think if anyone did that they wouldnt enjoy the game much anymore.

Are Nazis and Communists even a race? Not as far as I know.

Are Nazis and Communists even a race? Not as far as I know.
Again, genocide isn't just about race. Dictionary.com says it can also be a political group, so Nazis and Communists all being exterminated would still be genocide.

Besides, the main reason people think genocide is only about race is because of the root word, genos, meaning race. It's been expanded since then to include any group of people that are similar in some important way. Race, nationality, political views, and ethnicity are all included in genocide.

And the only genocide I'd condone is killing off all the idiots, done systematically by removing safety labels from products and putting a normal-text version in the instructions list only. None of this big symbol with bold text crap, let 'em kill themselves if that's all they can figure out how to do. Not like the safety labels actually keep everyone safe anyway.

Ok... so if we're going to talk about genocide... I'd support it in the case of stupid threads. I'd back up the mods in their systematic purge of stupid threads.
Seconded. Every now and then, the thread pool needs a little bit of chlorine

Yes it can.

I would elaborate however I discern I may be verbally abused.