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"About 1,300 under-5 year old infants will have died in Occupied Iraq and Afghanistan on Christmas Day alone, 0.5 million will die in the coming year and 1.7 million have died post-invasion due to non-provision by the US-led Coalition of life-preserving requisites demanded by the Geneva Conventions"

Whose idea of a good job is this? Merry christmas!

What excuses will be brought up this time? That keeping people alive is not cost-effective? That they would have been raised as enemy combatants?

As a father, I find this rather unsettling. What is the 'war on terror' worth, and who is paying?

To be fair, Afghanistan is not only the responsibility of the US, and the conditions before the invasion can't have been much better.

But I agree - one cruise missile isn't worth thousands and thousands of meals.

All I have to say about this: The money spent in the Iraq in the first year you were there would have been enough to feed every children that died because of starvation in the same time for FOUR YEARS.

Thank you for time, good luck with the most-expencive-fighter-in-the-history F-22 Raptor and the free world you achieve with it.

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"About 1,300 under-5 year old infants will have died in Occupied Iraq and Afghanistan on Christmas Day alone, 0.5 million will die in the coming year and 1.7 million have died post-invasion due to non-provision by the US-led Coalition of life-preserving requisites demanded by the Geneva Conventions"

Whose idea of a good job is this? Merry christmas!

What excuses will be brought up this time? That keeping people alive is not cost-effective? That they would have been raised as enemy combatants?

As a father, I find this rather unsettling. What is the 'war on terror' worth, and who is paying?

Hmmmm Afghanistan was illegal? I could see Iraq being argued.....

No bias in a letter to the editor right?

To be fair, Afghanistan is not only the responsibility of the US, and the conditions before the invasion can't have been much better.

But I agree - one cruise missile is worth thousands and thousands of meals.

Doesn´t really matter whose responsibility it is. This is not good.

All I have to say about this: The money spent in the Iraq in the first year you were there would have been enough to feed every children that died because of starvation in the same time for FOUR YEARS.

Thank you for time, good luck with the most-expencive-fighter-in-the-history F-22 Raptor and the free world you achieve with it.


Hey Slick. Neu is a German living in Australia.

Hmmmm Afghanistan was illegal? I could see Iraq being argued.....

No bias in a letter to the editor right?

Legality scmegality. That is not the point.

Legality scmegality. That is not the point.

Sure it is.

You say evil United States! LOOK WHAT THEY DID!

The Taliban was given the chance for negotiations........

Hey Slick. Neu is a German living in Australia.

I am aware. "You" was meant for Americans, who for the majority of the people on this thread. Besides, Australia is having troops in Iraq if I am not misinformed, so...


Anyways, that has little to do with the point of mine. I hope you got it.

Sure it is.

You say evil United States! LOOK WHAT THEY DID!

The Taliban was given the chance for negotiations........

Read again. More carefully.

Sure it is.

You say evil United States! LOOK WHAT THEY DID!

The Taliban was given the chance for negotiations........

legality doesn't have a one to one ratio with morality. It's perfectly legal for me to let my old mother starve to death on the streets, but I don't!

Besides, Australia is having troops in Iraq if I am not misinformed, so....
Well, I don't get to vote around here, so I can yell that it's not my fault...

But still, the fact is that so many have to suffer from the poor conditions in Afghanistan, while most of the money is spent either to pay ridiculously over-priced security services, and military hardware destroying people's livelihoods (ie Poppy Fields), rather than on actually helping the people.

Read again. More carefully.

Did you complain when the Soviets were leveling the place?

Did you complain when the Soviets were leveling the place?

No. I would if they were doing it now, though.

Did you complain when the Soviets were leveling the place?

Yes, because if there was anyone who was notorious for bowing to international pressure, it was the Soviets.

Elgesh']legality doesn't have a one to one ratio with morality. It's perfectly legal for me to let my old mother starve to death on the streets, but I don't!

I am not the one yelling it's illegal.

Morality has nothing to do with war.

Morality has nothing to do with 9/11.

The Taliban made their choices.....

Did you complain when the Soviets were leveling the place?

What does that have to do with the fact that people are dying under American occupation?

No. I would if they were doing it now, though.

Ok.

What does that have to do with the fact that people are dying under American occupation?

A curiosity question.

A coworker fled the Soviet occupation. He still has family back there. Kabul and I belive Kandahar(sp?).

He says things are bad. However, he will tell you that the Soviets were far worst.....

A curiosity question.

A coworker fled the Soviet occupation. He still has family back there. Kabul and I belive Kandahar(sp?).

He says things are bad. However, he will tell you that the Soviets were far worst.....

I'm sure they were. The Soviets were hardly known for their humanitarianism. It still doesn't really excuse what is happening there currently.

I'm sure they were. The Soviets were hardly known for their humanitarianism. It still doesn't really excuse what is happening there currently.

Didn't say it did.

I have heard people saying the US occupation is just like the Soviets.

I was curious to see if he was one of those types.....

Didn't say it did.

I have heard people saying the US occupation is just like the Soviets.

I was curious to see if he was one of those types.....
An interesting point to make on this Soviet issue would be that the US administration at that time said that when the Soviets were defeated in Afganistan by the freedom fighters (most of whom were notorious criminals let out of prison by Pakistan) that the freedom fighters would decide upon the new government of Afganistan. Gorgochec told the US State Dept that the freedom fighters annexing the country would not result in the democratic and free government the US had hoped for. The US ignored this, and look how the government of Afganistan turned out...

I am not the one yelling it's illegal.

Morality has nothing to do with war.

Morality has nothing to do with 9/11.

The Taliban made their choices.....

No, you were saying 'it was legal', so I thought I'd remind you of this pertinent fact.

Morality... sigh... it's to do with acting humanely. The assertion is the US was not and is not acting humanely. It is entirely possible to have degrees of humane treatment, even in a war. It is argued that the US could act more humanely without in any way lessening their practical military operations or particularly adversely their economic committments in this area.

Elgesh']legality doesn't have a one to one ratio with morality. It's perfectly legal for me to let my old mother starve to death on the streets, but I don't!

%$#$# Hippie!

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"About 1,300 under-5 year old infants will have died in Occupied Iraq and Afghanistan on Christmas Day alone, 0.5 million will die in the coming year and 1.7 million have died post-invasion due to non-provision by the US-led Coalition of life-preserving requisites demanded by the Geneva Conventions"

Whose idea of a good job is this? Merry christmas!

What excuses will be brought up this time? That keeping people alive is not cost-effective? That they would have been raised as enemy combatants?

As a father, I find this rather unsettling. What is the 'war on terror' worth, and who is paying?
Even the highest estimates that Ive seen that include the Geneva Convention stuff state that only about 30,000 have died.

EDIT: That's people in total, not just children.

All I have to say about this: The money spent in the Iraq in the first year you were there would have been enough to feed every children that died because of starvation in the same time for FOUR YEARS. .
Which would've been a lovely idea, but the way it was, not one of those children would've ever seen a morsel of the food paid for by it, and would have died all the same. Hopefully the war will change that.