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I would love for any muslim to tell me of ANY Prophecy made by Muhammad ever

I would love for any muslim to tell me of ANY Prophecy made by Muhammad ever
Why? What on earth do you imagine it would prove?

I would love for any muslim to tell me of ANY Prophecy made by Muhammad ever

He didn't. Does it matter?

I would love for any muslim to tell me of ANY Prophecy made by Muhammad ever

For the last time Muhammad is not going to tell you that winning lottary number. You're looking for Loki in that department.

Elgesh']Why? What on earth do you imagine it would prove?

it would prove islam is illegitimate

it would prove islam is illegitimate
lol! Why? And what're your definitions of 'illegitmate' and 'legitimate'?

it would prove islam is illegitimate
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it would prove islam is illegitimate
Or it would prove that your idea of legitimate religion is nonsense - it all depends on your point of view.

it would prove islam is illegitimate

The legitimecy of Islam is found in many ways other than Prophecy come true. Muhammed was a Prophet of God of the same stature of Christ, Moses, and many others. Muhammed raised up and changed a brutal people to the most advanced civilization of its time. What more proof is need?

it would prove islam is illegitimate

How so?

For the last time Muhammad is not going to tell you that winning lottary number. You're looking for Loki in that department.
And he's not telling. Not unless you devote yourself to Loki. And even then, assuming you get it, there'll be strings attached.

How do I know? I venerate Loki. He's a sonofabitch.

Elgesh']Why? What on earth do you imagine it would prove?

Hush now. Be a good girl/boy and play along :) ;)

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How so?

I dunno, but I recall seeing Islam as being the bastard child of monotheism and local pagan beliefs.

(or some similar asinine trite)

it would prove islam is illegitimate

Sigh ....

How very, very sad. Are you just mad that there're more of us than are Protestants?

Oh well, if it makes you feel any better, here:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/prophecies_muh.htm

Now go forth and sin no more.

Sigh ....

How very, very sad. Are you just mad that there're more of us than are Protestants?

Oh well, if it makes you feel any better, here:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/prophecies_muh.htm

Now go forth and sin no more.

Interesting article (though the first prophecy was a bit... ropey... I don't think you needed to be divinely inspired to predict the Persian defeat :p) - more like that on the site?

You know a prophet isn't neccessarily defined by someone who receives visions or intuitions of future events. In the Bible at the time of the Hebrews the prophets were more like inspirational leaders, they looked to God's teachings to try and see what he wanted and how thing would possibly happen if they didn't follow God's will. They were interpreters of the Torah etc. Jeremiah (I think it was him) in the time of the kingdom split said that the division occured because the Hebrews were not keeping the covenant, and that the Assyrians would take over them if they did not renew his covenantal devotion. He said that the rich were getting richer, and the poor poorer, and that wasn't what god wanted. He never received any visions or prophetic inspiration (directly) from God. The Judges were much the same in this way. I think your perceptions and misconceptions of what a prophet really is maybe the problem here. Just my two cents...:)

Elgesh']Interesting article (though the first prophecy was a bit... ropey... I don't think you needed to be divinely inspired to predict the Persian defeat :p) - more like that on the site?

Well the thing about Muhammad's "prophecies" were that they were things Allah said would happen during Muhammad's lifetime. They all did. But they weren't Muhammad's prophecies, just him saying what Allah told him. Can hearsay be prophecy? Hrmmm ...

I think, however, the OP is more looking for doomsday prophecy or endtime prophecy. Something neither Isaiah nor Elijah nor Moses nor anyone except the apostles did, so I guess it's not prophecy unless it comes from an apostle.

*shrug*

This whole thread isn't my problem.

I think your perceptions and misconceptions of what a prophet really is maybe the problem here.

Exactly! I think the OP needs to look up Nostradamus instead. But, then again, divination is a sin, so he may just be getting himself into trouble.

I'm thinking Jeremiah needs to slap the OP in the head with a rotten flounder.

it would prove islam is illegitimate
Wow. How pathetic. I second Keru.

I think, however, the OP is more looking for doomsday prophecy or endtime prophecy. Something neither Isaiah nor Elijah nor Moses nor anyone except the apostles did, so I guess it's not prophecy unless it comes from an apostle...

Aaaah, right... cheers :)

I dunno, but I recall seeing Islam as being the bastard child of monotheism and local pagan beliefs.
Kinda like christianity?

Bottom line the "Prophet" Muhammad made no prophecies!!!!!!!!! The why is he called a prophet all you muslims????

Bottom line the "Prophet" Muhammad made no prophecies!!!!!!!!! The why is he called a prophet all you muslims????

And you completely ignore the post with the link that lists the prophecies. This is what comes of feeding trolls.

Bottom line the "Prophet" Muhammad made no prophecies!!!!!!!!! The why is he called a prophet all you muslims????

Ignored my link, didn't ya troll? S'ok ... I forgive you for being illiterate.

I also suggest you find out the definition of "Prophet" and "Prophecy" in the Biblical sense. It doesn't mean "predict the future". Divination (predicting the future) is a sin and, well, thou shalt not suffer a witch to live, remember?

Now ... go forth and sin no more.

Oh ... and all of Qur'an is prophecy. All of it.

So ... there.

Bottom line the "Prophet" Muhammad made no prophecies!!!!!!!!! The why is he called a prophet all you muslims????

Because he received the message from Allah and passed it on to his people.

Next question.

Bottom line the "Prophet" Muhammad made no prophecies!!!!!!!!! The why is he called a prophet all you muslims????

Because a prophet is a person who communicates with god(s)? A prophet is not necessarily a fortune teller.

I would love for any muslim to tell me of ANY Prophecy made by Muhammad ever
Have you ever been a member of another forum, called PCGF? Odd question, I know, but the name rings a bell. Possibly as _Lexington_.

Describe one....... just one he made!!!!

Bottom line the "Prophet" Muhammad made no prophecies!!!!!!!!! The why is he called a prophet all you muslims????
Did you ignore my post also, I tried to explain to your conception of a prophet is at best misguided. I see this comment as confirmation that you are a troll.

Describe one....... just one he made!!!!

Aye, mate - drop it; you're no' even an amusing troll.

Describe one....... just one he made!!!!

The term you're looking for is diviner, or seer, hoss.

Prophet (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=prophet)

The term you're looking for is diviner, or seer, hoss.

Prophet (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=prophet)
Thankyou.

I looked at the prophecy site and they are all crap! They are all militaristic gueses

I looked at the prophecy site and they are all crap! They are all militaristic gueses

So who would meet your criteria of a prophet, hoss? Nostradamus?

it would prove islam is illegitimate
When you post a question, ignore the answers with accurate and informative information, then repeat your question over and over again when your mind is already made up, that makes you ...

A troll ...

... or a Generalite.

Either way, knock off the indignant whining and discuss the answers. Either that, or go away. Matters not at all to us which you choose.

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I looked at the prophecy site and they are all crap! They are all militaristic gueses

And Christianity's are really any better? Mohammad was a general, so he makes guesses about armies. Various biblical prophets were religious leaders, so they made guesses about other religious leaders. Both have to be heavily interpreted to really be considered right, and both contain large elements of self-fulfillment. That's how prophecies work.

I looked at the prophecy site and they are all crap! They are all militaristic gueses

Ok now it's your turn to answer questions.

1] What is your definition of "Prophet"?

2] What is your definition of "Prophecy"?

3] How would it affect your life if Islam were "proven" to be illegitamite? What one tiny bit of difference would it make?

If New-Lexington is a Christian of some form, I, at least personally, have now excommunicated him. I obviously can't speak for any other Christians though. Completely ignoring evidence to the contrary of your stance is not respectable.

Describe one....... just one he made!!!!

With all due respect, sir: YOU CAN NOT SEE SHIT! (http://banned.ytmnd.com/)

WE ALREADY MADE OUR POINTS WITH A LINK THAT GIVES YOU THE INFO YOU SUPPOSEDLY WANTED (:rolleyes: ), YET IT IS CLEAR YOU JUST WANT TO BASH ISLAM LIKE THE TROLL YOU ARE(:headbang: )!

YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY, SIR! (http://youlose.ytmnd.com/)

If New-Lexington is a Christian of some form, I, at least personally, have now excommunicated him.

Hooray!!

When you post a question, ignore the answers with accurate and informative information, then repeat your question over and over again when your mind is already made up, that makes you ...

A troll ...

... or a Generalite.
Ouch... that hurts because it's so true. ;)

Total shit thread. Reading through some of the maybe intelligent responses to an unintelligent question is pointless.

Kinda like christianity?

Yep. Just like that. (With a lot more paganism)

If New-Lexington is a Christian of some form, I, at least personally, have now excommunicated him. I obviously can't speak for any other Christians though. Completely ignoring evidence to the contrary of your stance is not respectable.

The Pope has a Nationstates account?:eek:

I'm betting it's H N Fiddlebottoms VIII.

He didn't. Does it matter?
Wait, no prophecies but he's still called a prophet? WTF?

Wait, no prophecies but he's still called a prophet? WTF?

Do we have to go through this again? A "Prophet" is a person with whom God communicates and delivers a message through, not a person who predicts the future.

Read the thread, DCD. :p

When you post a question, ignore the answers with accurate and informative information, then repeat your question over and over again when your mind is already made up, that makes you ...

A troll ...

... or a Generalite.


That could be interpreted as trolling in itself, Fris. Tsk, tsk. ;)

it would prove islam is illegitimate


O, the old my God is better than yours thing.....again. Thats the kind of thinking that allows you "christians" look down on those uncivillised Islamists, with their cries of "There is no God but Allah...".

Do we have to go through this again? A "Prophet" is a person with whom God communicates and delivers a message through, not a person who predicts the future.

Read the thread, DCD. :p
Meh, not really interested in doing that much reading on a subject that's irrelevant to me. Thanks for the short explanation though.

O, the old my God is better than yours thing.....again.

The fun thing about that is whenever I hear it from Christians (and they're the only ones I hear it from), I always ask them that if that were true, then there must be more than one god. One cannot be better unless there are more than one of you.

So, I ask them to prove to me that there's more than one god in the universe.

It usually sends them away scratching their heads, though I do get the occasional "You're worshipping Satan!" bit. Always amusing.

O, the old my God is better than yours thing.....again.

Nevermind the fact that Allah, Jehovah and God are all the same god anyhow...

Nevermind the fact that Allah, Jehovah and God are all the same god anyhow...


Yes, that is factually correct, but If I might paraphrase the retort -

"Allah is not the Gawd of the Bible - its a pagan moon-Gawd. Mohammed is dead and cannot help you. Jesus is alive! " etc etc.

Yes, that is factually correct, but If I might paraphrase the retort -

"Allah is not the Gawd of the Bible - its a pagan moon-Gawd. Mohammed is dead and cannot help you. Jesus is alive! " etc etc.

I assume that you are refering to the resurrection of Christ and then His body going into heaven. Well, Muslims make the same claim for Muhammed, as do other religions around the world. They have just as much proof as Chrisitianity does for their claims. Is it possible that the resurrection was not a physical resurrection but a spiritual resurrection?