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This is the best idea since the "Michael Jackson Day Care Center"!

This is the best idea since the "Michael Jackson Day Care Center"!
But...that's a terrible idea!

I'll bet you the Republican Party contributes to his campaign.;)

Another masturbation post from a Bushevik, whoo.

Another masturbation post from a Bushevik, whoo.
You should perhaps call your senator and ask him about the possibility of getting some pork sent to your school system.

You should perhaps call your senator and ask him about the possibility of getting some pork sent to your school system.
You should call your senator and ask him to talk Conservative to you.

Gah, Kerry's already shot himself and the Democratic party in both feet this past campaign... how 'bout he makes way for someone else?

Gah, Kerry's already shot himself and the Democratic party in both feet this past campaign... how 'bout he makes way for someone else?
Like who, Hillary?

I'd take the Ketchup King over the she-Clinton.

anyone but bush...

I'd love to see John Kerry run for President again in 2008. He doesn't stand a chance at getting the Democratic nomination but it would be fun watching him try. :)

anyone but bush...
So the admendment to allow him to run again wouldn't get your vote? :)

I dig all the pre-running and pre-torpedoing.

I'll grant that the first time I was aware of it was when Gray Davis pre-campaigned against a republican candidate in the primaries. After that it seems to get more and more ridiculous. We're not even in the mid-terms and we're already predicting candidates and how things will go.

It's a llllloooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg time 'til New Hampshire, and it seems that whatever people have been saying goes south after that. Weathermen have better track records.

So the admendment to allow him to run again wouldn't get your vote? :)

Don't need one. Since when did constitutionality slow him down? ;)

So the admendment to allow him to run again wouldn't get your vote? :)

I thought that it was a really funny rallying cry, you know "Anyone but bush" was pretty much the only reason kerry got any votes. His rugged good looks and charming personality couldn't stand up against the bad-boy charm that President Bush had...

So the admendment to allow him to run again wouldn't get your vote? :)

You know, it was the Republican Party who pushed the Constitutional Two Term limit after FDR died. A moment of "D'oh" in history wouldn't you say?

I dig all the pre-running and pre-torpedoing.

I'll grant that the first time I was aware of it was when Gray Davis pre-campaigned against a republican candidate in the primaries. After that it seems to get more and more ridiculous. We're not even in the mid-terms and we're already predicting candidates and how things will go.

It's a llllloooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg time 'til New Hampshire, and it seems that whatever people have been saying goes south after that. Weathermen have better track records.

Agreed, I usually don't pay any attention untill about a month before elections, once the TV is flooded with campaign ads, and the only thing on any Television program is some form of political commentary... Until I think about election time, I don't really realize how much I watch TV... It's starteling.

I thought that it was a really funny rallying cry, you know "Anyone but bush" was pretty much the only reason kerry got any votes. His rugged good looks and charming personality couldn't stand up against the bad-boy charm that President Bush had...
Yeah, and when 08 rolls around and Bush is not running, the nasty libs will still be running against him. :)

You know, it was the Republican Party who pushed the Constitutional Two Term limit after FDR died. A moment of "D'oh" in history wouldn't you say?

I actually doubt that Bush would get elected again even if it was legal. But the two-term limit was a very good idea.

You know, it was the Republican Party who pushed the Constitutional Two Term limit after FDR died. A moment of "D'oh" in history wouldn't you say?
I liked the biggest "D'oh" of the 21st century, no WMD in Iraq. How many Americans are dead for the threatening regime that never was? Over 2,000 I believe.

Wow, so close to the 3,000 mark that 9/11 reached. Only a thousand more to go, eh guys?

Agreed, I usually don't pay any attention untill about a month before elections, once the TV is flooded with campaign ads, and the only thing on any Television program is some form of political commentary... Until I think about election time, I don't really realize how much I watch TV... It's starteling.
I think, if anything, it's more important to pay attention far before TV is flooded with campaign ads. If you know the voting history of anybody eyeing the presidency before they even announce that they're eyeing the presidency, and therefore know where they ACTUALLY stand as opposed to who they're buttering up for votes, you're far less likely to totally fuck up and realize it far too late.

'Course, this is America we're talking about. I'm preaching to the virtually deaf.

Yeah, and when 08 rolls around and Bush is not running, the nasty libs will still be running against him. :)

I hope that McCain runs for president. That's probably the only possible republican candidate who'd get my vote right now. but if Hillary Clinton runs, I'd probably not vote for her either... Good thing there's Nader to fall back on.

Simonist']I think, if anything, it's more important to pay attention far before TV is flooded with campaign ads. If you know the voting history of anybody eyeing the presidency before they even announce that they're eyeing the presidency, and therefore know where they ACTUALLY stand as opposed to who they're buttering up for votes, you're far less likely to totally fuck up and realize it far too late.

'Course, this is America we're talking about. I'm preaching to the virtually deaf.

I'm not usually swayed that much by campaign ads, they're just a constant reminder of the douchebags running for president. There were a couple GWB ads during the last election though that made me really not want to vote for him. I'm actually all about the issues.

I liked the biggest "D'oh" of the 21st century, no WMD in Iraq.

Huh? That's a pretty big D'oh. But the biggest? Hardly.

The biggest D'oh! in American History was 'Remember The Maine."

The biggest D'oh! in world history?

...hmmm...

"Pompei is smoking again!"
"Bah! It'll calm down in a day or two."

:p

I liked the biggest "D'oh" of the 21st century, no WMD in Iraq. How many Americans are dead for the threatening regime that never was? Over 2,000 I believe.

Wow, so close to the 3,000 mark that 9/11 reached. Only a thousand more to go, eh guys?

T-shirt Hell has this t-shirt:

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T-shirt Hell has this t-shirt:

http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a570/a570.gif
Nothing like partying over caskets to get your political point made.

I hope that McCain runs for president. That's probably the only possible republican candidate who'd get my vote right now. but if Hillary Clinton runs, I'd probably not vote for her either... Good thing there's Nader to fall back on.I'm hoping that George Allen (R-VA, Senator) runs. From everything I've seen thus far I'm impressed. However, as stated before, it's a bit too early to be deciding who the vote is going to since we do have mid-terms to make it through first.

I liked the biggest "D'oh" of the 21st century, no WMD in Iraq. How many Americans are dead for the threatening regime that never was? Over 2,000 I believe.

Wow, so close to the 3,000 mark that 9/11 reached. Only a thousand more to go, eh guys?

Yeah, too bad Jesusland actually believes that Iraq was invaded to liberate the oppressed Iraqi people from the evil Saddam Hussein and bring democracy to the Middle East.

If the Busheviks keep insisting that the United States is a Republic and not a Democracy, what business does the nation have trying to "bring Democracy" to a foreign country by force?

Huh? That's a pretty big D'oh. But the biggest? Hardly.

The biggest D'oh! in American History was 'Remember The Maine."

The biggest D'oh! in world history?

...hmmm...

"Pompei is smoking again!"
"Bah! It'll calm down in a day or two."

:p

Remember the maine is the biggest "d'oh"? We totally won that war, and no one complained. I consider that a success. Plus they pretty much knew it was a lie to begin with.

T-shirt Hell has this t-shirt:

http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a570/a570.gif
Yeah, my friend sent his brother that T-shirt in basic training. I gotta say, I've never read such an angry-sounding LETTER from a commanding officer. Apparently, when you go into the Army, you have to swear away not only your sense of individual political beliefs, but also humour.

Yeah, too bad Jesusland actually believes that Iraq was invaded to liberate the oppressed Iraqi people from the evil Saddam Hussein and bring democracy to the Middle East.

If the Busheviks keep insisting that the United States is a Republic and not a Democracy, what business does the nation have trying to "bring Democracy" to a foreign country by force?Actually, the United States is a Republic.

Yeah, there are more than 2,000 casualties in Iraq - and several million people that are free from oppression and currently electing their peers to a democratic form of government.

Communism in the 60's and 70's was only succesful because those in charge spread it to other nations - cuba, much of south america, most of asia - they made themselves allies.

Democracy has gained itself 2 very well placed allies in the Middle East, Afghanistan and Iraq - they both surround Iran, that is a nice place to be in politically, surrounding the threatening nation. Those 2,000 lives were of people who believed in the cause and understood that it wasn't about the New York Times agenda or the CNN propaganda. They are American Heros.

Stop watching Jarhead and Michael Moore man. :mad:

Actually, the United States is a Republic.

A Democratic Republic - The best of both worlds.

Yeah, too bad Jesusland actually believes that Iraq was invaded to liberate the oppressed Iraqi people from the evil Saddam Hussein and bring democracy to the Middle East.

If the Busheviks keep insisting that the United States is a Republic and not a Democracy, what business does the nation have trying to "bring Democracy" to a foreign country by force?
And the comic relief storms the thread. Thank God! I was begining to think that the lunatic left was under represented here.

Actually, the United States is a Republic.
Which is why "bringing Democracy" becomes a bit of a useless point....because we're not a pure Democracy....

You know what? Nevermind. Let's all watch cartoons and forget that so little about this administration ever has or ever will make sense.

(the 1990's stole my innocence)

And the comic relief storms the thread. Thank God! I was begining to think that the lunatic left was under represented here.
Then you must've missed my comments. Thanks for ignoring the very first barb.

Simonist']Yeah, my friend sent his brother that T-shirt in basic training. I gotta say, I've never read such an angry-sounding LETTER from a commanding officer. Apparently, when you go into the Army, you have to swear away not only your sense of individual political beliefs, but also humour.
I can see how soldiers can take that one a bit personally...just sayin'...

Simonist']Yeah, my friend sent his brother that T-shirt in basic training. I gotta say, I've never read such an angry-sounding LETTER from a commanding officer. Apparently, when you go into the Army, you have to swear away not only your sense of individual political beliefs, but also humour.When you go into any branch of the U.S. Armed Forces, you don't have to give up either your political beliefs or your humour. However that's not the best t-shirt to show to a soldier who has lost a fellow comrade. I can understand his anger.

You should perhaps call your senator and ask him about the possibility of getting some pork sent to your school system.
I feel I'm missing the gist of this jibe...

When you go into any branch of the U.S. Armed Forces, you don't have to give up either your political beliefs or your humour. However that's not the best t-shirt to show to a soldier who has lost a fellow comrade. I can understand his anger.
He hasn't lost a comrade. This is a guy who's never fought, just trained.

I know because my cousin trained there as well, before he was shipped off to Kuwait for medical.

I believe the guy's just crazy, myself.

Simonist']Which is why "bringing Democracy" becomes a bit of a useless point....because we're not a pure Democracy....

You know what? Nevermind. Let's all watch cartoons and forget that so little about this administration ever has or ever will make sense.

(the 1990's stole my innocence)

to be fair - Our country is still pretty democratic. We're not wacky democratic like Athens, but we're a lot more democratic than Sadaam Hussein or the Taliban, or Fidel Castro, or Stalin, or Lenin, robbespierre, Charles De Gaulle, Hitler, Moussilini, Franco, Mao -Heck any leaders in the history of china. Saying that the US isn't a Democracy is actually just arguing semantics.

Yeah, there are more than 2,000 casualties in Iraq - and several million people that are free from oppression and currently electing their peers to a democratic form of government.

Communism in the 60's and 70's was only succesful because those in charge spread it to other nations - cuba, much of south america, most of asia - they made themselves allies.

Democracy has gained itself 2 very well placed allies in the Middle East, Afghanistan and Iraq - they both surround Iran, that is a nice place to be in politically, surrounding the threatening nation. Those 2,000 lives were of people who believed in the cause and understood that it wasn't about the New York Times agenda or the CNN propaganda. They are American Heros.

Stop watching Jarhead and Michael Moore man. :mad:
Apparently to you, 2000 is just a number. Like AD 2000, 2000 ft, 2000 lb., or 2000 bytes.

But this is 2,000 lives. Great that Iraq is a democracy now, supurb. But was that why we went in? No. President Bush led us there because he promised us WMD. How many have we found? Uh, 0

So, 2000 lives lost for 0 WMD. Wonderful. Oh but we got rid of Saddam Hussein! Oh wonderful! Oh the people love us now! Yes. When I rally in a giant mass of people screaming "Leave Iraq now!", I really mean "Stay and have a nice cup of tea. Make yourselves at home."

Iraq is such a mess that you shouldn't even be thinking about Iran right now.


Oh fuck this, I know this guy isn't listening. He claimed I watched Jarhead.

I feel I'm missing the gist of this jibe...
Which actually re-enforces the jibe. Thanks.

Simonist']He hasn't lost a comrade. This is a guy who's never fought, just trained.

I know because my cousin trained there as well, before he was shipped off to Kuwait for medical.

I believe the guy's just crazy, myself.A comrade is a fellow service member. It's just an expression.

Simonist']Yeah, my friend sent his brother that T-shirt in basic training. I gotta say, I've never read such an angry-sounding LETTER from a commanding officer. Apparently, when you go into the Army, you have to swear away not only your sense of individual political beliefs, but also humour.

:eek:

In Boot Camp, a fellow recruit received bubble gum from a parent in a care package. The poor recruit was 'cycled'* for a couple hours. The shitstorm a recruit that received that t-shirt must've gone through....

...I hurt just thinking about it. :(


*cycled=intensive punitive physical exercise.

I feel I'm missing the gist of this jibe...
It's okay. He entirely missed mine as well.

At least you're not the only one on a lower level of thinking in this thread :p
I laugh hardest knowing deep down that you, at least, are actually smarter than I

to be fair - Our country is still pretty democratic. We're not wacky democratic like Athens, but we're a lot more democratic than Sadaam Hussein or the Taliban, or Fidel Castro, or Stalin, or Lenin, robbespierre, Charles De Gaulle, Hitler, Moussilini, Franco, Mao -Heck any leaders in the history of china. Saying that the US isn't a Democracy is actually just arguing semantics.

But not democratic enough in history to keep from supporting pet dictators like Ngo Dinh Diem, p-Shah, Gus Pinochet and Fred Marcos who all gave the United States lip and oral service on "fighting Communism." Hell, we put up with Saudi Arabia and Musharraf in Pakistan over Oil and "fighting terrorism" respectively and calling them a democracy is a surest sign of sarcasm or insanity.

Hell, Saddam was Uncle Sam's Bitch until he made the mistake of thinking April Glaspie said "Go ahead, Kuwait's not Our Business."

Apparently to you, 2000 is just a number. Like AD 2000, 2000 ft, 2000 lb., or 2000 bytes.

But this is 2,000 lives. Great that Iraq is a democracy now, supurb. But was that why we went in? No. President Bush led us there because he promised us WMD. How many have we found? Uh, 0

So, 2000 lives lost for 0 WMD. Wonderful. Oh but we got rid of Saddam Hussein! Oh wonderful! Oh the people love us now! Yes. When I rally in a giant mass of people screaming "Leave Iraq now!", I really mean "Stay and have a nice cup of tea. Make yourselves at home."

Iraq is such a mess that you shouldn't even be thinking about Iran right now.


Oh fuck this, I know this guy isn't listening. He claimed I watched Jarhead.

I doubt the war was actually about WMD's it was more about creating stability in the area of the world where one of our biggest enemies is (Iran) and also the place where most the oil comes from (Which is what the US needs to survive - no joke) The WMD thing was just a back-up reason, which may have been true - when Iraq was fighting Iran, the US did supply Sadaam with WMD's and he also obviously used some to gas vast ammounts of Kurds who wanted their own country.

Simonist']It's okay. He entirely missed mine as well.

At least you're not the only one on a lower level of thinking in this thread :p
I ignored yours because it was a lame play on mine that was neither wity or funny. So there, you have gotten the attention you so desperately crave, you may go get your box of tissues now.

But not democratic enough in history to keep from supporting pet dictators like Ngo Dinh Diem, p-Shah, Gus Pinochet and Fred Marcos who all gave the United States lip and oral service on "fighting Communism." Hell, we put up with Saudi Arabia and Musharraf in Pakistan over Oil and "fighting terrorism" respectively and calling them a democracy is a surest sign of sarcasm or insanity.

Yeah, we were fuckin' crazy during the cold war. We just really wanted allies to make sure that the USSR didn't beat us. We really didn't care who they were. Plus Proxy-wars are a good way to get out your agression without actually worrying about the collapse of your nation.

I ignored yours because it was a lame play on mine that was neither wity or funny. So there, you have gotten the attention you so desperately crave, you may go get your box of tissues now.

where I come from; them's fightin' words..

I liked the biggest "D'oh" of the 21st century, no WMD in Iraq. How many Americans are dead for the threatening regime that never was? Over 2,000 I believe.

Wow, so close to the 3,000 mark that 9/11 reached. Only a thousand more to go, eh guys?

There is no denying that Saddam wanted those things, was trying to get them, and had the capability to do chemical weapons.

And as for Bush having his 2 terms, that's all he or anyone else needs. Eight years is enough time to do something positive with that kind of power.

It'd be fun watching Kerry get his ass handed to him again in two years.

I doubt the war was actually about WMD's it was more about creating stability in the area of the world where one of our biggest enemies is (Iran) and also the place where most the oil comes from (Which is what the US needs to survive - no joke) The WMD thing was just a back-up reason, which may have been true - when Iraq was fighting Iran, the US did supply Sadaam with WMD's and he also obviously used some to gas vast ammounts of Kurds who wanted their own country.

And praytell how does removing a secular if brutal and corrupt government so that a Fundamentalist regime is poised to take over rulership, not to mention turning the country into the Everquest Server For Jihadists create stability in that region of the world?

where I come from; them's fightin' words..
Where's that?

Yeah, we were fuckin' crazy during the cold war. We just really wanted allies to make sure that the USSR didn't beat us. We really didn't care who they were. Plus Proxy-wars are a good way to get out your agression without actually worrying about the collapse of your nation.

Oh and oil.. The US always needs oil.. It's the number one thing the US needs to survive. Plus us being a Democracy doesn't mean that we need all of our allies to be democratic. It takes a lot more work to set up a democracy than it does to back a current dictator.

Which actually re-enforces the jibe. Thanks.
Well, I'll eat some bacon...maybe then I'll get it.

I ignored yours because it was a lame play on mine that was neither wity or funny. So there, you have gotten the attention you so desperately crave, you may go get your box of tissues now.
Well considering yours wasn't well-thought in the beginning.....

Besides, which of us, at a paltry number of posts, has to rely on calling one political side that's essentially united with the other AGAINST THE WORLD WHO HATES THEM the "comic relief"?

Sounds like, from the gist of this thread, you're far more desperate for attention, my friend. I already did my time as a pathetic low-life newbie (though I'd classify you more as a n00b, ATC) and actually earned respect, not grovelled to the forces-that-be to take me under their political wings of protection and hope that someday my fledgling views would be regarded with something other than amusement. Which, at this rate, probably won't happen.

So you keep posting your laughable "political debate" threads where you will allow no debate to happen. See how much verbal play you'll get from the more respected, admired posters on the forum. I give you a month, at best.

*It-niz-ored so the Mods won't have to deal with a fight*

anyone but bush...

Err...Bush cannot run again!!!

Hey you dems out their want me to vote for your candidate, nominate Zel Miller. I would vote for him!!!

There is no denying that Saddam wanted those things, was trying to get them, and had the capability to do chemical weapons.
And Iran and North Korea, one nation with growing nuclear capabilities and another with at least one nuclear bomb, both highly Anti-U.S.., one with a leader who is Anti-Israel, another with a leader who is just plain crazy, are...what?

Simonist'](though I'd classify you more as a n00b, ATC)
Awww, that's cute. You know so much about me to call me a lame name. Great job.

Awww, that's cute. You know so much about me to call me a lame name. Great job.

do you guys need to fight?
I recommend just ignoring the arguing about things like that, does it really resolve anything? What understanding does one gain from insults?

Awww, that's cute. You know so much about me to call me a lame name. Great job.
And with all the rampant puppeteering going on these days...never assume someone is a n00b. Usually, it's just someone who wants to let their inner asshole free without staining their main nation's rep.

And with all the rampant puppeteering going on these days...never assume someone is a n00b. Usually, it's just someone who wants to let their inner asshole free without staining their main nation's rep.

Personally, I like my rep stains. :)

I thought that it was a really funny rallying cry, you know "Anyone but bush" was pretty much the only reason kerry got any votes. His rugged good looks and charming personality couldn't stand up against the bad-boy charm that President Bush had...

:D

Ah, sadly though.. we'll still be hearing the fevered "anybody but Bush" mantra until after Jeb Bush's re-election in 2012.. :p Only then will we see the end of it.

Personally, I like my rep stains. :)
Yeah, but your stains are semen flavoured.

And with all the rampant puppeteering going on these days...never assume someone is a n00b. Usually, it's just someone who wants to let their inner asshole free without staining their main nation's rep.

after playing counterstrike for a while, I started calling people Noobs in real life. Like if someone didn't know how to use a 4-way stop, or if someone in front of me was taking too long to make a left turn at a stop sign. I'd yell "F'ing noob!" or "Vote Kick the noob"

That is a very shameful time for me..

Personally, I like my rep stains. :)

Hey now, if those rep stains get on a dress you can get impeached.

do you guys need to fight?
I recommend just ignoring the arguing about things like that, does it really resolve anything? What understanding does one gain from insults?

but it's funny to watch!

loony liberals... crazy conservatives... whiney crybaby bleeding hearts... baby-eating liars...

it's cute :p

Yeah, but your stains are semen flavoured.

How you came about this knowledge is a topic for another thread. :p

And Iran and North Korea, one nation with growing nuclear capabilities and another with at least one nuclear bomb, both highly Anti-U.S.., one with a leader who is Anti-Israel, another with a leader who is just plain crazy, are...what?

They need to be dealt with.

N. Korea should just be attacked like Iraq and disabled before it has a chance to use what it has.

Iran should be offered a nuclear power facility run by the US and/or UN/UK/maybe even somebody like France to make sure everything stays under control and innocuous. If they accept then they are genuine about wanting to be eco-friendly, if they refuse they get nothing.

Problems solved.

:D

Ah, sadly though.. we'll still be hearing the fevered "anybody but Bush" mantra until after Jeb Bush's re-election in 2012.. :p Only then will we see the end of it.

Can't wait untill the second term reelection of Jenna Bush.. this Anybody but bush thing will last generations.

Hey now, if those rep stains get on a dress you can get impeached.

Only if the wench saves the dress. :p

Yeah, but your stains are semen flavoured.

*gak!!!*


<3

Only if the wench saves the dress. :p

Seriously.. did she not have the money for the drycleaning? or is she just really not into laundry or something?

after playing counterstrike for a while, I started calling people Noobs in real life. Like if someone didn't know how to use a 4-way stop, or if someone in front of me was taking too long to make a left turn at a stop sign. I'd yell "F'ing noob!" or "Vote Kick the noob"

That is a very shameful time for me..
Wait until you start yelling 'PWNED BITCH' when that jerk who cut you off gets pulled over by a cop. Or you actually pronounce the letters WTF...or tell a cowoker to stop flaming you (which I originally thought meant 'trying to make you gay' or 'hitting on you')...or you start to answer multiple choice questions with 'Myrth' despite never having interacted with him:p Then you can worry.

Seriously.. did she not have the money for the drycleaning? or is she just really not into laundry or something?


Is it so bad that she just wanted a little piece of Bill to remember him by?

Seriously.. did she not have the money for the drycleaning? or is she just really not into laundry or something?

Maybe the stain had sentimental value. *shrug*

And with all the rampant puppeteering going on these days...never assume someone is a n00b. Usually, it's just someone who wants to let their inner asshole free without staining their main nation's rep.
First of all, puppeteering is a cowardly way to let people know what you "really think", so anybody who's doing that....I have no regard for in the first place. Don't really care if I'm wrong or not, because that IS immature and retarded. Second, if they're not willing to stand up and be the natural asshole, without worrying about their nation's rep, then they're an artificial asshole already and I probably wouldn't lose much from no longer being in their good graces.

Besides, if I lost a forum "friend" because I insulted their puppet, I very much doubt they were worth their salt as a person to begin with.

Which actually re-enforces the jibe. Thanks.
How so?

Wait until you start yelling 'PWNED BITCH' when that jerk who cut you off gets pulled over by a cop. Or you actually pronounce the letters WTF...or tell a cowoker to stop flaming you (which I originally thought meant 'trying to make you gay' or 'hitting on you')...or you start to answer multiple choice questions with 'Myrth' despite never having interacted with him:p Then you can worry.

I knew it got out of hand when I started integrating flashbangs into my daily routine

Wait until you start yelling 'PWNED BITCH' when that jerk who cut you off gets pulled over by a cop. Or you actually pronounce the letters WTF...or tell a cowoker to stop flaming you (which I originally thought meant 'trying to make you gay' or 'hitting on you')...or you start to answer multiple choice questions with 'Myrth' despite never having interacted with him:p Then you can worry.


I used to say "PWNED" all the time but I've reverted back to the old "MODED" just to keep it 80's

How so?
Yeah, I really don't get the whole senator, pork, school thing. Do you? Maybe it's a USian voodoo ritual.

I used to say "PWNED" all the time but I've reverted back to the old "MODED" just to keep it 80's

You gotsta keep it 80's - in whatever way you can

Yeah, I really don't get the whole senator, pork, school thing. Do you? Maybe it's a USian voodoo ritual.

Maybe he thought I was a Muslim high school student and thought that would be a cute insult.

Yeah, I really don't get the whole senator, pork, school thing. Do you? Maybe it's a USian voodoo ritual.
I have a feeling it was some combo jive involving the US school system ... though in his or her case it would be a N00B mistake to assume everyone is a product of the US public school system.

Yeah, I really don't get the whole senator, pork, school thing. Do you? Maybe it's a USian voodoo ritual.

I dunno, I'm from the US, and I don't get it. but I find it hard to say USian, ergo I use American. I mean, ya'll don't call yourselves the united provences of America.

Maybe he thought I was a Muslim high school student and thought that would be a cute insult.
My first impression was he was calling you a j00.

I dunno, I'm from the US, and I don't get it. but I find it hard to say USian, ergo I use American. I mean, ya'll don't call yourselves the united provences of America.
I get bitched slapped at home if I use the word 'American' to refer to estadounidenses alone. To avoid an accidental slip up, I use USian. And pronounce it that way. It actually flows off the tongue quite nicely. YouEssian.:p

My first impression was he was calling you a j00.

j00? is that the word for jewish now? hee hee

that is kind of what I took it as, but it still didn't make a good joke.. And I'd know...

My first impression was he was calling you a j00.

Which would be an ironic shot in the foot for him if it were true, considering that Busheviks and Kahanists sleep in bed together all the time.

I get bitched slapped at home if I use the word 'American' to refer to estadounidenses alone. To avoid an accidental slip up, I use USian. And pronounce it that way. It actually flows off the tongue quite nicely. YouEssian.:p

I'd get made fun of as being some weird hippie canuck or something. Here, the only people who I've ever met arguing that (in real life) were canadians. I have nothing against you guys seriously, I don't, but I just like to use whatever gets me most widley understood amongst my peers.

As a person from the US, I also like the term USian - I like the wierded out look people get when I say it too.

I liked Kerry becuase he wasn't as bad as Bush. My political ideology isn't very similer to either of them but I found Kerry's Seculer ideas preferable to Bush's Theocratic ones.

I'd get made fun of as being some weird hippie canuck or something. Here, the only people who I've ever met arguing that (in real life) were canadians. I have nothing against you guys seriously, I don't, but I just like to use whatever gets me most widley understood amongst my peers.
Thats just because they are the only ones that natively speak the same language we do (I know generalization lets not argue over “official” languages)

You don't “Hear” it from some of the southern countries because we are used to language separation and knowing they have their own word for the USA

It just seems more normal for them to have different names for the USA or America because there is already a language barrier there so the peticular name does not stand out as much

I liked Kerry becuase he wasn't as bad as Bush. My political ideology isn't very similer to either of them but I found Kerry's Seculer ideas preferable to Bush's Theocratic ones.

Bush really isn't a theocrat, though he is a lot more religious than I'd like.. I also like a president that drinks from time to time. For Chrissakes! the man doesn't drink because he used to be an alcoholic! I don't know if I can handle that in a president - the lack of moderation. Kerry was better for that reason mostly.

I'd get made fun of as being some weird hippie canuck or something. Here, the only people who I've ever met arguing that (in real life) were canadians. I have nothing against you guys seriously, I don't, but I just like to use whatever gets me most widley understood amongst my peers.
Me too. My peers are Americans. From the Americas. Mostly Latinos...who take offense at such things:)

I'm a canuk too, by the way.

Thats just because they are the only ones that natively speak the same language we do (I know generalization lets not argue over “official” languages)

You don't “Hear” it from some of the southern countries because we are used to language separation and knowing they have their own word for the USA

It just seems more normal for them to have different names for the USA or America because there is already a language barrier there so the peticular name does not stand out as much

The scary thing about canadains is you never know when you're talking to one - I live up by the border, seriously they look and act just like us! you gotta keep on your toes

Bush really isn't a theocrat, though he is a lot more religious than I'd like.. I also like a president that drinks from time to time. For Chrissakes! the man doesn't drink because he used to be an alcoholic! I don't know if I can handle that in a president - the lack of moderation. Kerry was better for that reason mostly.

Bush is not an active theocrat, but he is basically a rubber stamp waiting for the Fundies to bring the ink. Take a look at Faith-Based Initiative as an example; non-WASP religion-based organizations almost never get a grant.

Me too. My peers are Americans. From the Americas. Mostly Latinos...who take offense at such things:)

I'm a canuk too, by the way.

I figured that, based on the Female,Canada thing there. but Americano is easier to say than Estados Unidosiano (probably wrong, I speak french not spanish) but yeah, I dunno, I never had that sort of argument with anyone from anywhere else in the americas

Bush is not an active theocrat, but he is basically a rubber stamp waiting for the Fundies to bring the ink. Take a look at Faith-Based Initiative as an example; non-WASP religion-based organizations almost never get a grant.

Fundimentalists... when will they ever learn... I never payed attention to the faith-based initative.. It just didn't seem important enough to warrent my attention.

The scary thing about canadains is you never know when you're talking to one - I live up by the border, seriously they look and act just like us! you gotta keep on your toes
I feel your pain ... minnesota here lol

I feel your pain ... minnesota here lol

Me too guv'na - up in the north of it too.

Me too guv'na - up in the north of it too.
Down in St. Cloud right now ... where abouts ya from? (my family (well one side) is from the virginia area)

Neither Kerry nor Bush are worthy to lead this great nation. Unfortunately,among the politicians of today,there are no true statesmen and women. The political process has been corrupted by the facist-controlled right-wing Republicans and the socialist-controlled left-wing Democrats. It`s become a joke,the political version of a bordello,with the party bosses acting as pimps,the special interests acting as johns,so you know what role the politicians themselves are playing. There is no one to speak for the average American, who is being exploited by both of these lunatic fringes of our society.

*Looks at thread title.*

*Insert Darth Vader NOOOOOOOOOOOOO scream from Revenge of the Sith here.*

Ok, I will explain the pork thing. It's in refrence to your state/national budget. See, your state get a certain amount of money for certain areas of the budget. They go to schools, roads, etc. However, sometimes the senators, congressman, whoever, have their own pet project. Like the bridge to no where in Alaska or the artifical Rain forrest out in the Mid-west somewhere. These type of project adds more money to the budget, thus raising taxes, thus adding meat. The meat is pork. Conservative talk shows always complain about the pork and how we need to cut it to get to the bare bone.

Ok, I will explain the pork thing. It's in refrence to your state/national budget. See, your state get a certain amount of money for certain areas of the budget. They go to schools, roads, etc. However, sometimes the senators, congressman, whoever, have their own pet project. Like the bridge to no where in Alaska or the artifical Rain forrest out in the Mid-west somewhere. These type of project adds more money to the budget, thus raising taxes, thus adding meat. The meat is pork. Conservative talk shows always complain about the pork and how we need to cut it to get to the bare bone.
We understand that much but in context the jibe it was borederline nonsensical

You know, it was the Republican Party who pushed the Constitutional Two Term limit after FDR died. A moment of "D'oh" in history wouldn't you say?
Well, that depends. The 22nd Amendment has only applied to three presidents so far. (Truman was specifically exempted from it.) The first it affected was Eisenhower, a Republican, but he probably wouldn't have run again anyway due to his failing health. The second was Ronald Reagan, another Republican, but he also probably wouldn't have run again anyway due to advanced age and failing health.

The third was Bill Clinton. Clinton probably would have run again in 2000 if he'd been able. And it's possible he would have won, too. So the only president who's truly been prevented from seeking a third term by the 22nd Amendment is Bill Clinton.

No doubt some right-wing nutcases will claim that's exactly why it was a good idea, and never mind that Clinton was five years old when the amendment passed.

:p

surely the democratic party can find someone better?

my own party has stuck me with Bush twice now, and nothing remotely better on the other side.

I am absolutly terrified of what the GOP is going to give me next election, I was hoping for the dems to come up with someone that I might want to vote for.

surely the democratic party can find someone better?

my own party has stuck me with Bush twice now, and nothing remotely better on the other side.

I am absolutly terrified of what the GOP is going to give me next election, I was hoping for the dems to come up with someone that I might want to vote for.Yeah, the Democrats will find someone better. Here's why. Kerry was given the nomination based on the (wrong, bad, stupid, choose your modifier) idea that he was the most electable candidate to take on Dubya. He had a shot at the most incompetent president of the last hundred years and he lost. You don't get a do-over when you fail like that, especially when you'll be taking on a Republican who doesn't have Bush's handicaps in 2008. He had his shot, and now he'll get to spend the rest of his career as a Senator from Massachussetts, unless they get tired of him.

I can't tell you who the Democratic nominee will be, but it won't be him. Probably won't be Hillary either.

Yeah, the Democrats will find someone better. Here's why. Kerry was given the nomination based on the (wrong, bad, stupid, choose your modifier) idea that he was the most electable candidate to take on Dubya. He had a shot at the most incompetent president of the last hundred years and he lost. You don't get a do-over when you fail like that, especially when you'll be taking on a Republican who doesn't have Bush's handicaps in 2008. He had his shot, and now he'll get to spend the rest of his career as a Senator from Massachussetts, unless they get tired of him.

I can't tell you who the Democratic nominee will be, but it won't be him. Probably won't be Hillary either.
Well, Kerry has the experience of what the Republicans will pull, and everything they can throw at him has already been thrown at him and debunked (not that the average American is smart enough to realize). Also, I can't think of any strong Republican candidates that will be in the running. Not any that arn't under investigation for corruption.

Well, Kerry has the experience of what the Republicans will pull, and everything they can throw at him has already been thrown at him and debunked (not that the average American is smart enough to realize). Also, I can't think of any strong Republican candidates that will be in the running. Not any that arn't under investigation for corruption.

Just a guess, but they wouldn't be stupid enough to nominate Kerry.

If they are, it won't matter who the Republicans put up for office - Kerry would probably lose as long as the economy was still going at least as well as it is now, and if troops are already on the way home (which begins later this year).

Someone younger and more dynamic would be a good idea. But, like the Republicans, the Democrats also excel at shooting themselves in the foot.

Neither party are very popular right now. The Reps have some bad poll numbers but the Dems aren't gaining anything out of that. As long as I can remember in my short life every election has been about the less of two evils, but lately it seems worse than ever. If only a third party could gain a foothold and really give them a run for their money.

Neither party are very popular right now. The Reps have some bad poll numbers but the Dems aren't gaining anything out of that. As long as I can remember in my short life every election has been about the less of two evils, but lately it seems worse than ever. If only a third party could gain a foothold and really give them a run for their money.
I would say the same, but I worry about which third party might be most popular, I mean Libertarian would be great, but green party? not so great. In fact bad, very very bad.

I would say the same, but I worry about which third party might be most popular, I mean Libertarian would be great, but green party? not so great. In fact bad, very very bad.

Not so sure why you would say the Green Party would be very very bad. Do you have examples of disasters that have come out of Green party leadership?

Not so sure why you would say the Green Party would be very very bad. Do you have examples of disasters that have come out of Green party leadership?
I actually don't have any examples of green party leadership at all. Their ideas for how things should work scare the crap out of me. Although I know someone who is a green party memeber, and he scares the crap out of me anyway, so I may be biased, I suppose I should research..............

I actually don't have any examples of green party leadership at all. Their ideas for how things should work scare the crap out of me. Although I know someone who is a green party memeber, and he scares the crap out of me anyway, so I may be biased, I suppose I should research..............

What are their ideas on how things should work and which ones scare the crap out of you?

Any comments like: They will send flowers to the terrorists will be completely disregarded unless you show me quotes of that nature by Green Party representatives.

Official Green parties are just getting on the ballot in the United States. In 1990 the Green Party of Alaska elected two Greens to municipal offices, and ran a full slate of candidates in 1992. In 1992 Greens achieved official party status in California, Hawaii, Arizona, and New Mexico. Nearly a hundred Greens ran for public office, and 53 were elected in 1992.

Well, Kerry has the experience of what the Republicans will pull, and everything they can throw at him has already been thrown at him and debunked (not that the average American is smart enough to realize). Also, I can't think of any strong Republican candidates that will be in the running. Not any that arn't under investigation for corruption.
I can think of plenty of strong candidates in the sense that they have name recognition and the ability to raise money--John McCain, Chuck Hagel, potentially Newt Gingrich and George Allen, Jeb! Bush. There are other names that are longshots--Tom Tancredo, Sam Brownback. Frist wants to run, but I think he's dead in the water right now, and while Giuliani talks like he wants to run, I can't see him getting out of the primaries. Same with Condi Rice--she'd be an interesting general election candidate, but I don't see her winning in the primaries.

I can think of plenty of strong candidates in the sense that they have name recognition and the ability to raise money--John McCain, Chuck Hagel, potentially Newt Gingrich and George Allen, Jeb! Bush. There are other names that are longshots--Tom Tancredo, Sam Brownback. Frist wants to run, but I think he's dead in the water right now, and while Giuliani talks like he wants to run, I can't see him getting out of the primaries. Same with Condi Rice--she'd be an interesting general election candidate, but I don't see her winning in the primaries.

So who do you think has good legs as a Democrat? Would Edwards run again?

Edwards is a pussy who couldn't win the nomination last time around. He wouldn't win it this time either if he even ran.

You know what I hate? People saying the whole war was for oil. If it were for oil, wouldn't we have started buying by now? I don't think we have just yet so it doesn't seem like it was all for oil, or if it was then they're being very patient about it.

He'll never win the democratic nomination.

If they are, it won't matter who the Republicans put up for office - Kerry would probably lose as long as the economy was still going at least as well as it is now, and if troops are already on the way home (which begins later this year).
No, he would probably lose because the average America is either an uneducated dumbass or a biased asshat.

I don't count McCain as a Republican, well, aside from being their old lapdog. If he went third-party, he would whipe the floor with both of them.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060102/ap_on_el_pr/kerry2008;_ylt=AqDaSg9hh4aTclHrSDYorwKyFz4D;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

This is the best idea since the "Michael Jackson Day Care Center"!
If a Kerry-redoux is the best the Dems can do, I suppose they will soon be supplanted by a breakaway wing of the Reps. Politics is so frakking weird! :headbang:

... the average America is either an uneducated dumbass or a biased asshat.
And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen: the way the liberals see the rest of us. :headbang:

If a Kerry-redoux is the best the Dems can do, I suppose they will soon be supplanted by a breakaway wing of the Reps.
I thought they already were.

But I seriously don't think Kerry would run again. He's got the Stigma attached to him now of being a loser, and both parties have much better candidates to offer.

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen: the way the liberals see the rest of us. :headbang:
Sure proved me wrong. :rolleyes:

So who do you think has good legs as a Democrat? Would Edwards run again?
There's a whole hell of a lot of people ready to run. Edwards is one of them. He's stayed somewhat in the spotlight with his foundation, and he's preaching the "Two Americas" theme to anyone who will listen. Of the also-rans, I'd give him the best shot at the nomination simply because of his political skill. Wes Clark is the other also-ran with a shot--he's been getting face-time with conservatives on Fox News as an analyst, so he might pull some swing votes. Other people who are talking are Governors Bill Richardson, Tom Vilsack and Mark Warner; Hillary will run, and so will Feingold (my current pick), and Evan Bayh might give it a shot. I'm sure I'm missing someone. Gore says he won't run again, but there's been a draft Gore movement for the last four years, so he'll at least be talked about, and if he gets in, he'll have a lot of early momentum.

But don't ask me who'll be the nominee. The best I'll do is say that I don't think Hillary or Kerry will come anywhere near the nomination.

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen: the way the liberals see the rest of us. :headbang:

"The liberals"?

Does anyone else see how Eutrusca just showed how he and Teh pantless hero are alike?

"The liberals"?

Does anyone else see how Eutrusca just showed how he and Teh pantless hero are alike?


You beat me to it! :D

"The liberals"?

Does anyone else see how Eutrusca just showed how he and Teh pantless hero are alike?
Yeah, but that's never been any secret to anyone who reads his posts regularly.

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen: the way the liberals see the rest of us. :headbang:

Stop it Eut. This isn't a liberal/conservative thing. This is a Bush supporter/rest of America thing. It's unfortunate that it happens to fall out mostly on ideological grounds, but that's not the point.

If one still supports Bush, one is either hopelessly partisan or hopelessly ignorant, whether one is a dyed in the wool conservative or a bleeding heart liberal.

STOP trying to cloud the issue with your liberal bashing. It's a pathetic attempt to make partisan points and nothing else.

Two links that might be of interest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election%2C_2008
http://www.ovaloffice2008.com/

I thought that it was a really funny rallying cry, you know "Anyone but bush" was pretty much the only reason kerry got any votes. His rugged good looks and charming personality couldn't stand up against the bad-boy charm that President Bush had...

I totally agree with you...I'm not just saying this because he's my boss...(Army!) but I think he is a great president...I love the guy!!!:)

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This is the best idea since the "Michael Jackson Day Care Center"!
"I think it's a wonderful idea" - President Condoleeza Rice, Jan 21 2009

This is a Bush supporter/rest of America thing. Yeah, and the "rest of America" came out in the minority in 2004...51 to 48%, if I recall correctly. 285 EVs to 253.

If one still supports Bush, one is either hopelessly partisan or hopelessly ignorant, whether one is a dyed in the wool conservative or a bleeding heart liberal.Nice way to go out and bash the 50% (in the most recent poll, and the numbers are still going back UP) that supports the President. It's especially ironic given your hypocritical...

STOP trying to cloud the issue with your liberal bashing. It's a pathetic attempt to make partisan points and nothing else.The hypocrisy just oozes..."don't insult my side, but your side is fair game for insults." Of course, it's simply another day's work for the Left.

Nice way to go out and bash the 50% (in the most recent poll, and the numbers are still going back UP) that supports the President. It's especially ironic given your hypocritical...

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on this one, unless you can show me different. Here's a list of poll results from pollingreport.com, across the spectrum from the month of December. There are only two numbers above 44%, which would lead any sane person to believe that the lone 50% rating is an outlier. Now, you've never been what anyone would call sane, so here's your chance to prove me wrong.

Gallup 12/19-22/05 43 53 4 -10


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CNN/USA Today/Gallup 12/16-18/05 41 56 3 -15


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ABC/Washington Post 12/15-18/05 47 52 1 -5


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NPR LV 12/15, 17-18/05 44 54 2 -10


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FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 12/13-14/05 42 51 7 -9


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Diageo/Hotline RV 12/12-13/05 50 47 3 +3


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NBC/Wall Street Journal 12/9-12/05 39 55 6 -16


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CNN/USA Today/Gallup 12/9-11/05 42 55 3 -13


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Cook/RT Strategies 12/8-11/05 42 55 2 -13


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Pew 12/7-11/05 38 54 8 -16


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Gallup 12/5-8/05 43 52 5 -9


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AP-Ipsos * 12/5-7/05 42 57 -15


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CBS/New York Times 12/2-6/05 40 53 7 -13
Edit: Here's an easier graphic to understand.
http://pollingreport.com/images/PREStrend.GIF

Yeah, and the "rest of America" came out in the minority in 2004...51 to 48%, if I recall correctly. 285 EVs to 253.

What's that have to do with anything?

Nice way to go out and bash the 50% (in the most recent poll, and the numbers are still going back UP) that supports the President. It's especially ironic given your hypocritical...


Depends on the poll.

The hypocrisy just oozes..."don't insult my side, but your side is fair game for insults." Of course, it's simply another day's work for the Left.

I'm not making it a liberal/conservative issue. Conservatives who have concerns about Bush are okay in my book. Conservatives who actually oppose bigger government (which is supposed to be their credo anyway,) I applaud. In other words, I'm criticising certain people for a specific reason (supporting Bush, bigger/more powerful central government,) not for some generalized ideology. Thanks for playing anyway.

Next time, consult a dictionary.

Why can't Kerry just follow in Al Gore footsteps and just don't even try.

Why can't Kerry just follow in Al Gore footsteps and just don't even try.

Clinton too.

Democrats for anyone but Clinton and Kerry 2008!

Let's face it, Nor the Democrats or Republican has any good candidate to pick from. We REALLY need a viable third party option.

If one still supports Bush, one is either hopelessly partisan or hopelessly ignorant, whether one is a dyed in the wool conservative or a bleeding heart liberal.

No, Gymoor.

You'll note that Bush isn't running in the next election.

So if I support a Republican in the next election, it will be because the Democrats nominate an idiot just like they did the last two times.

More to the point, if I have to pick between an idiot and an effete idiot, I'll pick the first one.

Any candidate that comes off as "the American public is too stupid to know what's good for it" or smacks of elitism loses my vote.

Simonist'] Don't really care if I'm wrong or not, because that IS immature and retarded.
Does anyone recognize how ironic this post is?

If one still supports Bush, one is either hopelessly partisan or hopelessly ignorant, whether one is a dyed in the wool conservative or a bleeding heart liberal.

Or one is somebody who realizes that while both parties are ass-raping america, the republicans are ass raping america a little slower and occasionally allowing breaks.

Or one is somebody who realizes that while both parties are ass-raping america, the republicans are ass raping america a little slower and occasionally allowing breaks.

Perhaps, but the Democrats use lube, while the Republicans like to go dry.

Nice way to go out and bash the 50% (in the most recent poll, and the numbers are still going back UP) that supports the President. It's especially ironic given your hypocritical...


Hello Pot!


The hypocrisy just oozes..."don't insult my side, but your side is fair game for insults." Of course, it's simply another day's work for the Left.
So speaks a master of hypocracy!

No, Gymoor.

You'll note that Bush isn't running in the next election.

So if I support a Republican in the next election, it will be because the Democrats nominate an idiot just like they did the last two times.

More to the point, if I have to pick between an idiot and an effete idiot, I'll pick the first one.

Any candidate that comes off as "the American public is too stupid to know what's good for it" or smacks of elitism loses my vote.


So who where the last 3 demos you voted for?

Perhaps, but the Democrats use lube, while the Republicans like to go dry.
My father-in-law puts it this way. The republicans are like the big boss on the hill who makes you work seven days a week, twenty hours a day, and they shoot you if you fall out on the job. The democrats give you one Sunday a month off, and only maim you if you fall out on the job, but they're still fucking you over pretty hard.

Kerry was such a lackluster candidate. 99% of the people I know who voted for Bush only voted for him because he they thought he was slightly less abysmal than Kerry.

Why would he run again? he lost the first time.

Why would he run again? he lost the first time.

Because he doesn't know any better and dammit, the Dems want to use "Anybody but Bush." again.

Because he doesn't know any better and dammit, the Dems want to use "Anybody but Bush." again.
You're half right--he doesn't know any better. He will discover soon enough, however, that he has precious little support for a second run. I don't know who will win the nomination, but I'll put money on who it won't be--John Kerry or Hillary Clinton.

You're half right--he doesn't know any better. He will discover soon enough, however, that he has precious little support for a second run. I don't know who will win the nomination, but I'll put money on who it won't be--John Kerry or Hillary Clinton.

Oh God, I hope Hillary Clinton loses, if she wins, men can kiss their balls goodbye. I swear she is a man-hating bitch.