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Hugo Chavez: "The descendants of those who crucified Christ" control the world - Page 2

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OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 07:31
Aceptas blanca?de ti acepto todo mi dulce tigresa
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:31
bueno estoy avierto par un "triangle erotico".. todavia me queda champagna del anho nuevo :D

'ta bien, porque estoy a reseco, pero con resaco.
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:33
de ti acepto todo mi dulce tigresa
De donde son uds.?
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 07:34
Well, for Hypatia, the ones who wrote about her included Damascius, Socrates Scholasticus, John, Bishop of Nikiu, other eyewitnesses to her existence would have been her father, Theon, who was also a prominant mathematician, her husband Isidorus, a prominant philosopher, Cyril, the bishop of Alexandria (he wrote a little about her as well if I'm not mistaken), not to mention the fact that she left several of her own writings for future generations.*Voice mail* I am busy:fluffle: now.. leave your name and number.. i shall be avaible on friday nigth. beep
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 07:34
'ta bien, porque estoy a reseco, pero con resaco.
"¿Tú, de dónde eres, negro?” (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10196076&postcount=18)
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:35
"Tu, de donde eres, negro?"
Parece, flaca, que somos paisanos.
Kanabia
03-01-2006, 07:35
I'll bring the snacks. ;)

I have some good ideas on how we can crush the worlds govt's by providing jobs, healthcare and education to the poor.

Glad to have you along!

We already have commie cakes, socialism sandwiches, bolshevik beer, che crackers...etc...if you can supply the proletarian pizza it would be great.
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 07:37
Parece, flaca, que somos paisanos.
Na...soy india salvaje desde las pampas de Canada:)
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 07:38
OceanDrive insisted that the jews killed Jesus.
Eventually it got to the point where I mentioned it was as pointless as arguing about which of the seven dwarves put the hot lead shoes on Snow White's evil stepmother and we got to this point.I tell you what..

You keep Chavez, Jesus, Hypatia and the 7 dwarfs...

I keep Gylesovia, Sinuhue, Snow-white and her evil stepmother... and Id tell you how i'd go:fluffle: tomorrow morning .. deal?

:D
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:39
Glad to have you along!

We already have commie cakes, socialism sandwiches, bolshevik beer, che crackers...etc...if you can supply the proletarian pizza it would be great.

What about Moka Fix Gold?

(10 pts to the 1st person to name the reference)
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 07:40
Glad to have you along!

We already have commie cakes, socialism sandwiches, bolshevik beer, che crackers...etc...if you can supply the proletarian pizza it would be great.wait.. I want Kanabia and Sumamba too :D :D :cool: :D
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 07:40
Glad to have you along!

We already have commie cakes, socialism sandwiches, bolshevik beer, che crackers...etc...if you can supply the proletarian pizza it would be great.


Sure I can. I'll top it with some power to the people pepperoni, that'll have your mouth watering!
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:41
I tell you what..

You keep Chavez, Jesus, Hypatia and the 7 dwarfs...

I keep Gylesovia, Sinuhue, Snow-white and her evil stepmother... and Id tell you how i'd go:fluffle: tomorrow morning .. deal?

:D
Oh yeah, I'll only drink organic champagne. I drink the expensive stuff. Like the wine the Venezuelan élite used to drink when they flew it in on chaartered concordes during those good old days of military rule. Sigh!
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 07:44
Oh yeah, I'll only drink organic champagne. I drink the expensive stuff. yeah.. i get a lot of that from Fass too... :D
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:44
I tell you what..

You keep Chavez, Jesus, Hypatia and the 7 dwarfs...

I keep Gylesovia, Sinuhue, Snow-white and her evil stepmother... and Id tell you how i'd go:fluffle: tomorrow morning .. deal?

:D
Oh yeah, and good call on keeping Sinuhue away from those dwarfs. Need I remind us what her stance is on "little people"?:eek:
Dakini
03-01-2006, 07:44
I tell you what..

You keep Chavez, Jesus, Hypatia and the 7 dwarfs...

I keep Gylesovia, Sinuhue, Snow-white and her evil stepmother... and Id tell you how i'd go:fluffle: tomorrow morning .. deal?

:D
I love how you can't point out an eyewitness to Jesus' execution who recorded the event during their lifetime so you just avoid it.
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 07:47
Oh yeah, and good call on keeping Sinuhue away from those dwarfs. Need I remind us what her stance is on "little people"?:eek:
*snip snip*
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:48
I love how you can't point out an eyewitness to Jesus' execution who recorded the event during their lifetime so you just avoid it.
His name was Bob.
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 07:48
I love how you can't point out an eyewitness to Jesus' execution who recorded the event during their lifetime so you just avoid it.
Lighten up Dakini...everyone gets tired of arguing sometimes.
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 07:48
I love how you can't point out an eyewitness to Jesus' execution who recorded the event during their lifetime so you just avoid it.I can.. Its just that I had enough for today... I feel like doing something more exiting.. like sex or alcohol...
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 07:48
His name was Bob.
Wait! Bob spelled backwards is....BOB! NOW I GET IT!

Huevon:)
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:49
I can.. Its just that I had enough for today... I feel like doing something more exiting.. like sex or alcohol...
Why "or"?
South Niflheim
03-01-2006, 07:49
I'm no fan of Chavez - even if he has good intentions, well, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

But I've got to say that if anything this speech makes me respect him more. It's clear that he is talking about the sort of people who crucified Christ - the powerful and religious elite - not the ethnic groups they belonged to. And in that respect he is absolutely right. Few if any governments would welcome Jesus if he came back today, and NONE of the major churches would. The historical Jesus would be as much a persona non grata in the churches today as Lord Baden-Powell would be in the Boy Scouts he founded. It's funny how organizations can turn out that way - but people are jerks.



Baldur of South Niflheim
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:50
Wait! Bob spelled backwards is....BOB! NOW I GET IT!

Huevon:)
A man, a plan, a canal: Panama.

Read that one backwards.
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 07:52
Why "or"?one at a time... even it its in rapid succesion..

Wait... actually I think you are rite... could do them at the same time.. let me try...
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 07:52
A man, a plan, a canal: Panama.

Read that one backwards.
Amanap: lanac a, nalp a, nam A.

Wow. That almost looks Gaelic! So...you're Irish I take it?:D
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 07:53
I'm no fan of Chavez - even if he has good intentions, well, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

But I've got to say that if anything this speech makes me respect him more. It's clear that he is talking about the sort of people who crucified Christ - the powerful and religious elite - not the ethnic groups they belonged to. And in that respect he is absolutely right. Few if any governments would welcome Jesus if he came back today, and NONE of the major churches would. The historical Jesus would be as much a persona non grata in the churches today as Lord Baden-Powell would be in the Boy Scouts he founded. It's funny how organizations can turn out that way - but people are jerks.



Baldur of South Niflheim


I've always wondered about the bolded saying. What is the road to heaven paved with? Evil deeds?
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:53
Amanap: lanac a, nalp a, nam A.

Wow. That almost looks Gaelic! So...you're Irish I take it?:D
Erin go bragh?
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:56
I've always wondered about the bolded saying. What is the road to heaven paved with? Evil deeds?
Either donations to the Republican Party, or shares in Newscorp. and its subsidiaries. Or is it Viacom. Either way, it has to do with money.:D
Dakini
03-01-2006, 07:56
Lighten up Dakini...everyone gets tired of arguing sometimes.
Yes, and he spent the last several pages being an all around jerk and demanding proof from me while providing no supporting evidence of his own. While he may be satisfied playing the coward and running off, that doesn't do it for me.
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 07:57
Erin go bragh?
Kinihta-nehiyawan ci?
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 07:57
Erin go bragh?Kinihta-nehiyawan ci?Krieg der *Stränge*? Häh? Was soll das denn sein? :headbang:
Wie wär's mit "Warum ist die Banane krumm?" :D
Alles klar... ich glaub du bildest auch lustige Geräusche :D
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:58
Kinihta-nehiyawan ci?
Uisga baha?
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 07:58
Yes, and he spent the last several pages being an all around jerk and demanding proof from me while providing no supporting evidence of his own. While he may be satisfied playing the coward and running off, that doesn't do it for me.
Alright. That's okay. I go on rampages too. :fluffle:
Don't take offense at that...I really do get your irritation...I just don't think he's going to continue the conversation.
Gylesovia
03-01-2006, 07:59
Krieg der *Stränge*? Häh? Was soll das denn sein? :headbang:
Wie wär's mit "Warum ist die Banane krumm?" :D
Alles klar... ich glaub du bildest auch lustige Geräusche :D
Ja, aber ich esse gern Schokoeis mit Schlagsahne und Streusen. Und Sie?
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 07:59
... that doesn't do it for me.for the record...it is not like if we were having sex.. :D :D :p :D

BTW ... what is your ASP? :D
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 08:00
Krieg der *Stränge*? Häh? Was soll das denn sein? :headbang:
Wie wär's mit "Warum ist die Banane krumm?" :D
Alles klar... ich glaub du bildest auch lustige Geräusche :D
I didn't know you had German! I feel so left out with just Spanish and Cree:(
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 08:02
Either donations to the Republican Party, or shares in Newscorp. and its subsidiaries. Or is it Viacom. Either way, it has to do with money.:D

hehehe
oh god have the giant corporations monopolized the transit system to heaven now?
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 08:02
Ja, aber ich esse gern Schokoeis mit Schlagsahne und Streusen. Und Sie?Ich glaub, da site ehr jemand zu sehr über die Stränge geschlagen:D
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 08:04
I didn't know you had German! I feel so left out with just Spanish and Cree:(ce pas grave j taime pareill.. embrase moi mon amour :)
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 08:05
I didn't know you had German! I feel so left out with just Spanish and Cree:(

I'm feeling left out - period - :confused:
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 08:05
ce pas grave j taime pareill.. embrase moi mon amour :)
Tais-toi, cochon communiste!
Sinuhue
03-01-2006, 08:06
I'm feeling left out - period - :confused:
*jumps you*
Mmm mmm mmm...we do not need ze words...no mon amour? *makes Pepe le Pew kissing sounds*
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 08:08
I'm feeling left out - period - :confused:hey Sumamba... I love you man... *just like in coors lite ad*

:D
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 08:09
*jumps you*
Mmm mmm mmm...we do not need ze words...no mon amour? *makes Pepe le Pew kissing sounds*


now there's a language I can sink my teeth into - body language - rawrrrrrrrrr

You are up late Sinner. I'm going to bed right now... wanna come over and keep me and my lady warm?
Kanabia
03-01-2006, 08:11
What about Moka Fix Gold?

(10 pts to the 1st person to name the reference)

Sounds vaguely familiar...

wait.. I want Kanabia and Sumamba too :D :D :cool: :D

Huh? Hey, i'm wanted for something? *ears prick up and looks around in anticipation*

Sure I can. I'll top it with some power to the people pepperoni, that'll have your mouth watering!

Yay! :)



I've always wondered about the bolded saying. What is the road to heaven paved with? Evil deeds?

Crucifying black people and bashing up "fags". And going on crusades to convert heathens and such. Duh. :rolleyes: :p
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 08:11
hey Sumamba... I love you man... *just like in coors lite ad*

:D
:fluffle: Thanks I love you too!
Not sure what ad you mean though. Is fondling involved?
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 08:13
I didn't know you had German! I feel so left out with just Spanish and Cree:(Speaking German is Piece of cake...and


you do realize I was just copy pasting form the German tread dont you :D :D :p :D

Krieg der *Stränge*? Häh? Was soll das denn sein? :headbang:

Wie wär's mit "Warum ist die Banane krumm?" :D


Alles klar... ich glaub du bildest auch lustige Geräusche :D
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 08:14
Crucifying black people and bashing up "fags". And going on crusades to convert heathens and such. Duh. :rolleyes: :p

looks like it's hell for me then. oh wait i don't believe in heaven or hell so hopefully I won't have to take that bus.
South Niflheim
03-01-2006, 08:14
I've always wondered about the bolded saying. What is the road to heaven paved with? Evil deeds?

Maybe. ;-)

More realistically, the road to heaven is paved with WISE DECISIONS, and the road to hell is paved with STUPID CHOICES.

That's all that saying means - that good intentions are not enough in themselves. Some of the worst atrocities in the world were committed with good intentions. Heck, Hitler didn't tell the Germans that they were going to commit great crimes and become the benchmark of evil. He told them that they were a good race of people, naturally suited to being masters of the world, so that they could run it better for the benefit of all.

And look at the moral midgets running the USA today - without even bringing in Iraq, look at the prison population in the USA, one of the largest (by proportion) in the world, over half of whom are there either for victimless crimes (primarily drug or sex related), or for crimes that would not have been committed if those victimless activities had not been criminalized. Look at these people rotting in prison for committing crimes against themselves, or sometimes consenting others, and remember that all this is done with the avowed intent to save such people from themselves, and tell me that the road to hell is NOT paved with good intentions.



Baldur of South Niflheim
Kanabia
03-01-2006, 08:15
looks like it's hell for me then. oh wait i don't believe in heaven or hell so hopefully I won't have to take that bus.

Yeah, I plan to live forever anyway, so who cares.
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 08:16
Alles klar

^ My favorite character from The Leage Of Gentlemen says that a lot.

He also said something like "If you have trouble understanding, come to me in private and I will take you into my German mouth"
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 08:16
:fluffle: Thanks I love you too!
Not sure what ad you mean though. Is fondling involved?I was fondling you... well..I Tough I was fondling you.. When i realized i was fondling Sinuhue.. She was all over you man.. I stopped just before I kissed her lower back... :fluffle:

Wait... I should not have stopped...:headbang:
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 08:25
Maybe. ;-)

More realistically, the road to heaven is paved with WISE DECISIONS, and the road to hell is paved with STUPID CHOICES.

That's all that saying means - that good intentions are not enough in themselves. Some of the worst atrocities in the world were committed with good intentions. Heck, Hitler didn't tell the Germans that they were going to commit great crimes and become the benchmark of evil. He told them that they were a good race of people, naturally suited to being masters of the world, so that they could run it better for the benefit of all.

And look at the moral midgets running the USA today - without even bringing in Iraq, look at the prison population in the USA, one of the largest (by proportion) in the world, over half of whom are there either for victimless crimes (primarily drug or sex related), or for crimes that would not have been committed if those victimless activities had not been criminalized. Look at these people rotting in prison for committing crimes against themselves, or sometimes consenting others, and remember that all this is done with the avowed intent to save such people from themselves, and tell me that the road to hell is NOT paved with good intentions.



Baldur of South Niflheim


I agree that dumb choices made with good intentions can have bad outcomes but I doubt very much that Hitlers intentions were good. And I think torturing and killing Jews thinking you are doing good for the world (how anyone could fall for that is beyond me) is a far cry from offering free healthcare and education to the poor in hopes of helping them get out of their condition. Sure it might not be the end of strife in teh area but I also wouldn't call those bad decisions either as they seem to be helpign at least slightly.

As for the stupid anti drug and sex laws, I also don't personally think those were anything more than laws created by people who hated people who didn't want to live their lives just like them by the bible. I wouldnt call those good intentions either.
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 08:27
I was fondling you... well..I Tough I was fondling you.. When i realized i was fondling Sinuhue.. She was all over you man.. I stopped just before I kissed her lower back... :fluffle:

Wait... I should not have stopped...:headbang:

well as long as someone is getting fondled.
OceanDrive3
03-01-2006, 08:28
Yeah, I plan to live forever anyway, so who cares.Sounds like a plan... But for now I have to hit the bed.. See you all later.. It was pleasure.. :D
Gauthier
03-01-2006, 08:28
As for the stupid anti drug and sex laws, I also don't personally think those were anything more than laws created by people who hated people who didn't want to live their lives just like them by the bible. I wouldnt call those good intentions either.

It's the natural outcome of a nation that was basically founded by Puritans fleeing persecution so that they could have the privilege of persecuting others, especially on personal behavior and preferences.
Cannot think of a name
03-01-2006, 08:34
So agian, outside of taking parts of speeches out of context, what's so bad about this guy? So far what I'm getting is that he's judging the success of a society by the least of its citizens, which sounds about right to me.

What policies or actions has this guy done that make him so bad?
Free Soviets
03-01-2006, 09:24
What policies or actions has this guy done that make him so bad?

survive a u.s.-backed coup attempt or two, begin to redistribute a bunch of land away from the tiny elite that owned the country like feudal lords, shift a bit of the wealth flowing through the already state-owned oil company (citgo is their u.s. gas station chain) away from those land-owners and towards social programs, and use anti-u.s. sentiment to full populist effect.
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 19:47
Yeah, I plan to live forever anyway, so who cares.

That's a good plan - how does this play in with your evil socialist policies?
Refused Party Program
03-01-2006, 19:47
survive a u.s.-backed coup attempt or two, begin to redistribute a bunch of land away from the tiny elite that owned the country like feudal lords, shift a bit of the wealth flowing through the already state-owned oil company (citgo is their u.s. gas station chain) away from those land-owners and towards social programs, and use anti-u.s. sentiment to full populist effect.

The bastard!
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 19:48
It's the natural outcome of a nation that was basically founded by Puritans fleeing persecution so that they could have the privilege of persecuting others, especially on personal behavior and preferences.


yeah, a very sad reality indeed
Iztatepopotla
03-01-2006, 22:00
The romans are in charge of the world?
Well, kinda. The European nations that inherited a lot of what was once Rome, culturally and in other aspects, pretty much control the world. Even China, Japan and India have a lot of European influence in them.
Nodinia
03-01-2006, 22:02
So in conclusion Jesus may or may not have existed and may (or may not) have been crucified but Senor Chavez did not make an anti-semtic christmas address-something pointed out in page one or two.
Sumamba Buwhan
03-01-2006, 22:33
So in conclusion Jesus may or may not have existed and may (or may not) have been crucified but Senor Chavez did not make an anti-semtic christmas address-something pointed out in page one or two.


Beautiful summary :D
Nodinia
04-01-2006, 00:58
Thank you Sir.
OceanDrive3
04-01-2006, 03:16
So in conclusion Jesus may or may not have existed and may (or may not) have been crucified but Senor Chavez did not make an anti-semtic christmas address-something pointed out in page one or two.incomplete... Let me help you a bit.

Chavez may or may not have made an anti-sabatic statement.. Bolivar may or may not have existed... chavez may or may not be a tinpot Marxist agent... Benedict may or may not have a shitload of influence.. the Romanians may or may not exist... Chile may or may not be a hellhole... Uruguay may or may not exist..

THAT is just a few in page#1... 21 more to come.. :D