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No, seriously? Why don't we stick to magnets? We have iron in our blood.

No, seriously? Why don't we stick to magnets? We have iron in our blood.
You only have a couple of grammes of iron in your body: the rest of your blood is nonferrous.

That's a good question...

You only have a couple of grammes of iron in your body: the rest of your blood is nonferrous.
Unless of course you're this guy:
http://www.variety.com/graphics/photos/storypics/ironman_comic.jpg

You only have a couple of grammes of iron in your body: the rest of your blood is nonferrous.

Careful, though, because it's still enough for Magneto's mutant powers to work on.

People are diamagnetic, if that counts..
Like frogs you can levitate them in a strong enough magnetic field

You only have a couple of grammes of iron in your body: the rest of your blood is nonferrous.
Which means?

Which means?

Ferrous= latin word for Iron. It's where we get the chemical symbol "Fe" on the periodic table. I presume nonferrous means that the rest of the body contains no iron.

Unless of course you're this guy:
http://www.variety.com/graphics/photos/storypics/ironman_comic.jpg
That is a suit.

More like if you are this guy:
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Wolverine-leap-poster-01.jpg

Ferrous= latin word for Iron. It's where we get the chemical symbol "Fe" on the periodic table. I presume nonferrous means that the rest of the body contains no iron.
Ha! My science teacher never did explain that one to me.

Ferrous= latin word for Iron. It's where we get the chemical symbol "Fe" on the periodic table. I presume nonferrous means that the rest of the body contains no iron.Or similar magnetic elements, in this context.

Careful, though, because it's still enough for Magneto's mutant powers to work on.
His party piece must be incredible: it's remarkable that he's so unpopular, really.

His party piece must be incredible: it's remarkable that he's so unpopular, really.
Well if he wasn't always trying to ruin people's shit...

Well if he wasn't always trying to ruin people's shit...
It's probably because he never gets invited to parties.

It's probably because he never gets invited to parties.
It's a vicious cycle really.

His party piece must be incredible: it's remarkable that he's so unpopular, really.
Oh, it's the jokes he insists on telling. Quite annoying really.

It's a vicious cycle really.
Yes indeed.

People are diamagnetic, if that counts..
Like frogs you can levitate them in a strong enough magnetic field
Wouldn't a magnetic field strong enough to do that cause serious problems due to the currents it would induce in your brain?

Wouldn't a magnetic field strong enough to do that cause serious problems due to the currents it would induce in your brain?I don't think it would induce currents in the brain, but I'm not entirely sure. (Certainly the charged particles in our brain are a lot harder to move than those in, say, copper wire.) Besides, MRI machines have a pretty strong magnetic fields, and people don't suffer any damage from those.

I know they did the levitation thing with a frog once, but I don't recall they did any cognitive testing to see how fried it's brain was. But it didn't die afaik.

Wouldn't a magnetic field strong enough to do that cause serious problems due to the currents it would induce in your brain?

Currents are only induced by changing magnetic fields

People aren't magnetic so I can't toss paperclips at them and have them stick. :(

Wouldn't a magnetic field strong enough to do that cause serious problems due to the currents it would induce in your brain?
I bet you were the person who sat and watched Batman Begins, then loudly denounced the whole microwave plot loudly in the cinema.

(don't worry, I almost did too)

People aren't magnetic so I can't toss paperclips at them and have them stick. :(
Well if you unfolded the end-bit and sharpened it a little...

...nevermind.

Well if you unfolded the end-bit and sharpened it a little...

...nevermind.

superglue works too, but you usually have to press and hold them in place for a few seconds. Still, makes for a nice decoration on a limp, drunken form. :)

superglue works too, but you usually have to press and hold them in place for a few seconds. Still, makes for a nice decoration on a limp, drunken form. :)
Superglue? Ooh, you bastard, that stuff is hell to get off.

We tried to glue a bucket to a guy's hand once - it was strange that it didn't stick...

Superglue? Ooh, you bastard, that stuff is hell to get off.

We tried to glue a bucket to a guy's hand once - it was strange that it didn't stick...

Probably the wrong glue.

...

Or he foresaw your adolescent prank and had himself teflon coated! :eek:

Probably the wrong glue.

...

Or he foresaw your adolescent prank and had himself teflon coated! :eek:
I think it dissolved the bucket slightly. I couldn't tell like, I was wasted, but the bucket looked a bit warped.

I think it dissolved the bucket slightly. I couldn't tell like, I was wasted, but the bucket looked a bit warped.

Ah, yes. That can happen with certain kinds of glue and certain kinds of plastic.

No, seriously? Why don't we stick to magnets? We have iron in our blood.
There are a couple of so-inclined individuals.
I've seen footage on Ripley's Believe It Or Not on cable last week.
Here ya go.

*ahem*

http://mirrors.meepzorp.com/thestar.com.my/magnetic/


Tuesday, October 2, 2001

Boy,11, has magnetic powers, just like grandpa

IPOH: It is not every day that an 11-year-old boy can say he has the same “magnetic powers” as his father and grandfather.
Like his grandfather Liew Thow Lin, popularly known as “Magnetic Man,” metal objects stick to young Kin Seng’s body when placed on his skin.

“I don’t have to concentrate hard, they (the metal objects) just stick on me,” he shyly explained when interviewed at Liew’s house in Gunung Rapat here.

The Standard Five pupil said the “gift” was a normal part of his life.

“My friends don’t even know I have (this ability).

“I don’t feel anything when light things like spoons stick to my skin, but objects like an iron feels heavy,” he said.

His aunt, assistant nurse Liow Siew Kim, said the family only found out two years ago that Kin Seng possessed the ability after reporters asked them if he could do it. “We just thought we’d give it a try once, and it actually worked.”

Liew, 70, who on Sunday successfully pulled a Kancil a distance of 20m during the Hospital Bahagia Ulu Kinta Karnival Bahagia 2001 in Tanjung Rambutan, said his three sons and two grandchildren also had the ability.

The other grandson is three-year-old Liew Wei Xiong.

Or he foresaw your adolescent prank and had himself teflon coated! :eek:
I have a new goal in life. To become teflon coated!

I'll be able to slide off/across things with ease! It will be great!
not to mention the easy-clean trait.

I suggest staples for attaching paperclips. And I'm not talking about those wussy normal staples...I mean those packing staples. Or carpet tacks. Or a good 120psi nail gun.

I have a new goal in life. To become teflon coated!You can get it as a spray I think. But I don't know how well it'll stick to a person :rolleyes:

I was afraid of magnets for years when I was little because I was sure they would magnetize the iron in my blood and I would get an anurism or something....yeah I was a pretty dorky kid.

I have a new goal in life. To become teflon coated!

Well, only certain parts .... ;)

Well, only certain parts .... ;)
Only if it costs less than KY...

Well, only certain parts .... ;)
diving into bed could get dangerous...however, it would save money on lube. Perhaps the girl couldnt be on top tho..she might slide right off.

You know, having a slick willie might not help at all if you don't have a partner. It could in fact make things worse ... and what chemicals are used to remove teflon? :eek: *chem burn*
I haven't yet made the price comparison to KY, but by golly, i think i could garner some tax dollars for a feasibility study!!

diving into bed could get dangerous...however, it would save money on lube. Perhaps the girl couldnt be on top tho..she might slide right off.
All the more the argument for restraints ;)

You know, having a slick willie might not help at all if you don't have a partner. It could in fact make things worse ... and what chemicals are used to remove teflon? :eek: *chem burn*
I haven't yet made the price comparison to KY, but by golly, i think i could garner some tax dollars for a feasibility study!!
Meh, you don't need chemicals to remove teflon. Just gimme a cookbook and twenty minutes alone with it, I'll soon have all the teflon stuck to a different meat :p

Maybe not enough to be magnetic, but there is a genetic condition that causes the body to keep enough iron in it to set off security metal detectors. Too much iron in your system can kill you. It only affects men, apparently its the negative side to a benefical mutation that benefits affected women from not becoming anemic during menstration.

Meh, you don't need chemicals to remove teflon. Just gimme a cookbook and twenty minutes alone with it, I'll soon have all the teflon stuck to a different meat :p
One: You just ruined my little scheme to bilk ever more hard-earned $ from the poor working stiff.
Two: This post ALONE could be the herald banner on any page along the theme of,
Why should i become a vegetarian?

All the more the argument for restraints ;)
I like your style.

Meh, you don't need chemicals to remove teflon. Just gimme a cookbook and twenty minutes alone with it, I'll soon have all the teflon stuck to a different meat
Penis Marsala may be a delicacy where you are from, but I'll thank you to stay away from my genitals with that meat tenderizer and knife.;)

I like your style.

Thanks! But, don't quote me on that. It'll mean i'll have some kind of reputation to tarnish. *bows*

Thanks! But, don't quote me on that. It'll mean i'll have some kind of reputation to tarnish. *bows*
I dunno if you can tarnish the reputation of being the person who uses teflon as an excuse to practice bondage...



in other news, I need a can of spray teflon, a consenting female, and some handcuffs. Well, I have the handcuffs. The other two I need. And I'd settle for one. Which one is your call.

my grandpas magnetic and he glows in the dark. and u children know nothing of bondage so shut up about it cuz handcuffs are not fun in the least now a silk rope thats good stuff right there and stop thinking with ur dicks u sick weirdos

Love of Amber']my grandpas magnetic and he glows in the dark. and u children know nothing of bondage so shut up about it cuz handcuffs are not fun in the least now a silk rope thats good stuff right there and stop thinking with ur dicks u sick weirdos
get some punctuation, then we'll talk.
Oh, and seeing as it is your first post, I can safely assume you know nothing of me. Handcuffs are, in fact, fun. I prefer the fur lined ones, but that is just me. Not to mention we were joking around.

As far as sick weirdos, welcome to NSGeneral.

Love of Amber']my grandpas magnetic and he glows in the dark. and u children know nothing of bondage so shut up about it cuz handcuffs are not fun in the least now a silk rope thats good stuff right there and stop thinking with ur dicks u sick weirdos
I think we need a sign on the door of NS:

No txt spk
No grammar-haters

The fact that your granddad is magnetic would not make him glow in the dark unless he was made of a luminescent material. The fact that you profess to know anything about S&M astounds me, since I would imagine you spend 99% of your time masturbating in your dark basement. The fact that you feel the need to berate people for thinking sexually (thinking with your dicks you sick wierdos) further compounds my view that you have never seen so much as a naked thigh, let alone a bound and gagged sexual partner.

However, I'm quite willing to believe that this was all some mistake. You didn't mean to txt spk, for example, it's just that your keyboard is only partially working due to the large amount of semen in your keyboard. I'm also quite willing to believe that you do know a thing or two about bondage, possibly from all those rape porn sites you are a member of. I'm also willing to believe that you have seen a real life naked thigh - possibly that of your mother, or a sibling.

If you're going to be a twat, kindly fuck off to some other forum and leave us in peace. If you're going to be normal I will gladly welcome you and give you a guided tour of the wonder that is NS general. Choose now.

*snip*
Game, set, and match: Tribes!

your cookie is in the mail.

Game, set, and match: Tribes!

your cookie is in the mail.
You may have to deliver it to an alternate address. After re-reading that, I get the feeling that I could be entered in the DEAT lottery. :eek:

You may have to deliver it to an alternate address. After re-reading that, I get the feeling that I could be entered in the DEAT lottery. :eek:
haha...possibly, but overall it wasn't too bad...i guess;)

in other news, I need a can of spray teflon, a consenting female, and some handcuffs. Well, I have the handcuffs. The other two I need. And I'd settle for one. Which one is your call.

*raises hand eagerly* consenting female here! and i'm sure i could find a can of spray teflon, but i doubt we'd need it ;)

We are magnetic. We're electromagnetic. Everything is. It's an electric universe (http://www.holoscience.com/index.php), after all.

Why aren't humans magnetic?
Some of us are. I was stuck to one girl for hours and hours! :D

Some of us are. I was stuck to one girl for hours and hours! :D

I suspect that had more to do with the coefficient of friction. :)

I suspect that had more to do with the coefficient of friction. :)

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of vapor lock.:rolleyes:

At any rate, asking why are people not magnetic because we have iron in our blood is about as sensible as asking why are we not transparent considering we are made of mostly water.

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of vapor lock.:rolleyes:

At any rate, asking why are people not magnetic because we have iron in our blood is about as sensible as asking why are we not transparent considering we are made of mostly water.

Oh, that's an easy one; We're not transparent so we don't have to watch eachother digest. :p

Oh, that's an easy one; We're not transparent so we don't have to watch eachother digest. :p
oh come on...you know you'd enjoy watching that for atleast an hour.

oh come on...you know you'd enjoy watching that for atleast an hour.

Under the right circumstances, maybe. But not at the dinner table. :p

Under the right circumstances, maybe. But not at the dinner table. :p
I keep forgetting...not everyone talks about their fathers syphallis patients at dinner. Or looks at pictures of it. Or watches videos of surgery. And don't even give it a second thought.

Oh are family dinners ever amusing.

Would make prostate exams a bit less intrusive.

No, seriously? Why don't we stick to magnets? We have iron in our blood.
Most of it is in hemoglobin, which is nonmagnetic. That is a good thing because if hemoglobin was magnetic, a MRI would pull all the blood out of your body.

humans ARE in fact magnetic, it's only so small rhat you'll never notice it.
no i'm serious.

Dude I was so wrong..

When I read the title of this thread I thought it said "Why are humans Majestic?"

That would have been such a better conversation......

I beg to differ, this was very much entertaining. And if anyone needs to borrow teflon, I work in a grocery store... I'm sure Pam works just as well :P

Wouldn't a magnetic field strong enough to do that cause serious problems due to the currents it would induce in your brain?

Magnetic feilds only induce a current when they change. Also it would not induce a current unless a connection was made between the two that travels outside the magnetic feild (eg someone connected a wire from either side of the person and trailed it outside the feild). Current cannot be induced purely inside a magnetic feild. It would induce a potential difference (voltage) but that shouldn't matter.

I dunno if you can tarnish the reputation of being the person who uses teflon as an excuse to practice bondage...

Hey now, don't task me. I surprise myself sometimes in a sickening fashion.



in other news, I need a can of spray teflon, a consenting female, and some handcuffs. Well, I have the handcuffs. The other two I need. And I'd settle for one. Which one is your call.
Shouldn't this be the start of another thread here?

get some punctuation, then we'll talk.
Oh, and seeing as it is your first post, I can safely assume you know nothing of me. Handcuffs are, in fact, fun. I prefer the fur lined ones, but that is just me. Not to mention we were joking around.

As far as sick weirdos, welcome to NSGeneral.
Seconded. *bows*

You may have to deliver it to an alternate address. After re-reading that, I get the feeling that I could be entered in the DEAT lottery. :eek:
I dunno, left me kinda *tingly*
:eek:

humans ARE in fact magnetic, it's only so small that you'll never notice it.
no i'm serious.
Might you mean, in this fashion?

*ahem*

http://www.hfml.science.ru.nl/froglev.html


A little frog (alive !) and a water ball levitate inside a Ø32mm vertical bore of a Bitter solenoid in a magnetic field of about 16 Tesla at the Nijmegen High Field Magnet Laboratory.
The image of a high-temperature superconductor levitating above a magnet in fog of liquid nitrogen can hardly surprise anyone these days – it has become common knowledge that superconductors are ideal diamagnetics and magnetic field must expel them. On the other hand, the enclosed photographs of water and a frog hovering inside a magnet (not on board a spacecraft) are somewhat counterintuitive and will probably take many people (even physicists) by surprise. This is the first observation of magnetic levitation of living organisms as well as the first images of diamagnetics levitated in a normal, room-temperature environment (if we disregard the tale about Flying Coffin of Mohammed as such evidence, of course). In fact, it is possible to levitate magnetically every material and every living creature on the earth due to the always present molecular magnetism. The molecular magnetism is very weak (millions times weaker than ferromagnetism) and usually remains unnoticed in everyday life, thereby producing the wrong impression that materials around us are mainly nonmagnetic. But they are all magnetic. It is just that magnetic fields required to levitate all these "nonmagnetic" materials have to be approximately 100 times larger than for the case of, say, superconductors.



Whether an object will or will not levitate in a magnetic field B is defined by the balance between the magnetic force F = MB and gravity mg = V g where is the material density, V is the volume and g = 9.8m/s2. The magnetic moment M = (/ µ0)VB so that F = (/µ0)BVB = (/2µ0)VB2. Therefore, the vertical field gradient B2 required for levitation has to be larger than 2µ0 g/. Molecular susceptibilities are typically 10-5 for diamagnetics and 10-3 for paramagnetic materials and, since is most often a few g/cm3, their magnetic levitation requires field gradients ~1000 and 10 T2/m, respectively. Taking l = 10cm as a typical size of high-field magnets and B2 ~ B2/l as an estimate, we find that fields of the order of 1 and 10T are sufficient to cause levitation of para- and diamagnetics. This result should not come as a surprise because, as we know, magnetic fields of less than 0.1T can levitate a superconductor (= -1) and, from the formulas above, the magnetic force increases as B2.
The water and the frog are but two examples of magnetic levitation. We have observed plenty of other materials floating in magnetic field - from simple metals (Bi and Sb), liquids (propanol, acetone and liquid nitrogen) and various polymers to everyday things such as various plants and living creatures (frogs, fish and a mouse). We hope that our photographs will help many – particularly, non-physicists – to appreciate the importance of magnetism in the world around us. For instance, it is not always necessary to organize a space mission to study the effects of microgravity– some experiments, e.g. plants or crystal growth, can be performed inside a magnet instead. Importantly, the ability to levitate does not depend on the amount of material involved, V, and high-field magnets can be made to accommodate large objects, animals or even man. In the case of living organisms, no adverse effects of strong static magnetic fields are known – after all, our frog levitated in fields comparable to those used in commercial in-vivo imaging systems (currently up to 10T). The small frog looked comfortable inside the magnet and, afterwards, happily joined its fellow frogs in a biology department.

There is one important aspect in which the diamagnetic levitation differs from any other known way of levitating or floating things. In the case of diamagnetic levitation, the gravitational force is compensated on the level of individual atoms and molecules. This is, in fact, as close as we can - probably ever - approach the science-fiction antigravity machine.

I have a new goal in life. To become teflon coated!


Become a good politician. With radical views. Guranteed if no mud sticks to you, you've already grown a natural layer of teflon.

Become a good politician. With radical views. Guranteed if no mud sticks to you, you've already grown a natural layer of teflon.
Amen to that.

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of vapor lock.:rolleyes:
"Vapor lock!" OMG! ROFLMFAO!!!! :D