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Take a guess. Maybe you'll be right. It's only a matter of time until we are forced to go underground for 800,000 years and slowly evolve into creatures known as Morlocks who will feed off of those who managed to survive above ground while the Earth transformed into tropical shit hole.

Take a guess. Maybe you'll be right. It's only a matter of time until we are forced to go underground for 800,000 years and slowly evolve into creatures known as Morlocks who will feed off of those who managed to survive above ground while the Earth transformed into tropical shit hole.
28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes and 12 seconds from now.

Take a guess. Maybe you'll be right. It's only a matter of time until we are forced to go underground for 800,000 years and slowly evolve into creatures known as Morlocks who will feed off of those who managed to survive above ground while the Earth transformed into tropical shit hole.

Wells' "devolution" scenario hardly amounts to the destruction of the world.

I hear people argue "The world used to be much warmer than it is now, way back in the past! Think of the dinosaurs!"
Man wasn't around back then. Lizards were.
If global warming is speeding us towards the "normal" tropical temperatures of that time, we're doomed. :P

Wells' "devolution" scenario hardly amounts to the destruction of the world.
It was an oddly worded title. That's only a sign if the coming fate of humanity.

I hear people argue "The world used to be much warmer than it is now, way back in the past! Think of the dinosaurs!"
Man wasn't around back then. Lizards were.
If global warming is speeding us towards the "normal" tropical temperatures of that time, we're doomed. :P

Human extinction, again, is not tantamount to global "doom".

What world? The human world, the natural world, or the very existence of the planet?

I would like to be optimistic and say at least 100,000 years for the former. Provided that we can learn from our mistakes.

Over 1,500,230

Now!

*looks around*

What world? The human world, the natural world, or the very existence of the planet?

I would like to be optimistic and say at least 100,000 years for the former.
Either or. I'm never one for specifics.

Meh, whenever I get bored.

Whenever I decide I want a new playground.

Don't worry, I have this shit under control...

*fiddles with timer on UberNuke(TM) destined for Earth's core*

The world ? In a few billion years when our sun goes nova. Of course humans will be long gone by then...

As a race I give us 100 000 more years tops. By then we will either have evolved into something else or be extinct.
Civilisation will go much sooner, a 1000 years from now. Maybe 200 if we cannot solve the limited fossil fuel problem.

Except the first guess all are completely pulled out out a large tophat without any evidence to support them of course ;)

I watched Predicting Armaggedon on the History Channel about a year ago, the estimated year is 2012.

12:00 Midnight, December 25, 2012. That's when the Mayans think it will be anyway, and people think they predicted the World Wars!

So thats about...5 years and 6 days from now.:eek:

Disclamier: I don't believe this.

I watched Predicting Armaggedon on the History Channel about a year ago, the estimated year is 2012.
The next person who says it's going to be in 2012 gets a kick inna fork.

12:00 Midnight, December 25, 2005. That's when the Mayans think it will be anyway, and people think they predicted the World Wars!

So thats about...5 years and 6 days from now.:eek:

[color=white]Disclamier: I don't believe this.[/white]
Actually it's like six days ago.

12:00 Midnight, December 25, 2005. That's when the Mayans think it will be anyway, and people think they predicted the World Wars!

So thats about...5 years and 6 days from now.:eek:

[color=white]Disclamier: I don't believe this.[/white]
The Mayans claimed it was going to be the winter solstice 2012. I assume that's what you mean.
*kicks inna fork*


Attention please. The Mayans current calendar cycle ends on the winter solstice 2012. The world did not end at the end of their last cycle, so the evidence points to the world not ending at the end of this one. If I am wrong, you may sue me.

I hear people argue "The world used to be much warmer than it is now, way back in the past! Think of the dinosaurs!"
Man wasn't around back then. Lizards were.
If global warming is speeding us towards the "normal" tropical temperatures of that time, we're doomed. :P

We're doomed? I always thought people were more adaptive than that. I personally think that people will survive somehow, seeing as warm weather usually doesn't equal death in my experiance. Mammals were still around in those days as well, where do you think we came from? Dinosaurs wern't lizards; they were warm-blooded just like us.

The world ? In a few billion years when our sun goes nova. Of course humans will be long gone by then...

Is it going to go nova? I thought it only has mass to become a red giant, engulf the Earth, and then slowly become a white dwarf and, eventually, a cold dead star.


I watched Predicting Armaggedon on the History Channel about a year ago, the estimated year is 2012.

"Estimated" is such a strong word.

Is it going to go nova? I thought it only has mass to become a red giant, engulf the Earth, and then slowly become a white dwarf and, eventually, a cold dead star.
Current thought says it'll become a red giant, and melt the solar system. Then, when it becomes a dead star, it drops to the bottom of the universe into the primordial soup to be reabsorbed and eventually born again as a new star. It's the truth I tell you.

Is it going to go nova? I thought it only has mass to become a red giant, engulf the Earth, and then slowly become a white dwarf and, eventually, a cold dead star.

My bad - you are absolutely right.

We're doomed? I always thought people were more adaptive than that. I personally think that people will survive somehow, seeing as warm weather usually doesn't equal death in my experiance. Mammals were still around in those days as well, where do you think we came from? Dinosaurs wern't lizards; they were warm-blooded just like us.

Nonetheless, our collective trappings will see probably terminal upheaval.

Yeah. I hope if humans survive that long, we have colonized planets far enough away from our sun to survive. Though I don't we'd still be alive by then.

Assuming the human are not stupid enough to destroy themselve directly ( I mean with a weapon of mass destruction) and if no meteor crushes us, we'll survive for a couple if millenia. Human are very adaptative, and one day they''ll stop polluting. If it's too late, they'll make underground city, were all the riches and nice bitches can go, but the humanity will still survive. We can eat about everything, and we need water and oxygen. We'll make it.

Nonetheless, our collective trappings will see probably terminal upheaval.

Soceity, just like humans will go through an evolutionary process if our environment changes. Luckily there are so many people out there, there's a good chance that we'll survive in some form. Look at the dinosaurs, they're still around and thriving as avians. They may have lost their dominant role to mammals, but they're still around.

Assuming the human are not stupid enough to destroy themselve directly ( I mean with a weapon of mass destruction) and if no meteor crushes us, we'll survive for a couple if millenia. Human are very adaptative, and one day they''ll stop polluting. If it's too late, they'll make underground city, were all the riches and nice bitches can go, but the humanity will still survive. We can eat about everything, and we need water and oxygen. We'll make it.

I cannot think of a single weapon that we have heretofore created that would destroy all of humanity. Even nuclear weapons have limited destructive capability. Biological weapons are the same as plagues that have racked mankind for generations, and as technology progresses, we're making less and less of the more destructive weapons. The US no longer makes the giant Nuclear weapons of the cold war days, now all she makes are the type that are used for strategic bombing; you know like the kind launched blindly at the mountains in Afghanistan during the first phases of the War on Terror. Warfare is now no longer based off of nuclear capability; sure it helps to look big and powerful, but really modern warfare is waged with smaller armies, and via asymmetrical warfare.

The amount of energy required to actually destroy the world would be absurdly huge. It's possible that we might make the earth uninhabitable for humans, or not a very nice place to live, or kill all the dolphins or whatever, but we arent going to be destroying it anytime soon. My vote goes that the world will be very much intact by the time it is encompassed by the sun in ~5,000,000,000 years.

We have about 30 seconds...grab a towel and stick out your thumb....[global intercom begins speaking in background]

Seriously, though, it depends on your definition of destroy the world. I think we'll evolve into posthumanity and dismantle the planets to build a Matrioshka brain around Sol over the next century or two, and I guess that would count as destroying the world, since Earth would go along with all the other inner planets.

Take a guess. Maybe you'll be right. It's only a matter of time until we are forced to go underground for 800,000 years and slowly evolve into creatures known as Morlocks who will feed off of those who managed to survive above ground while the Earth transformed into tropical shit hole.

That was an OK movie.

*kicks inna fork*
Sausage inna bun, sir? Guaranteed 100% rat free?

As for the bit about the Mayans...*agrees*

I saw a documentary where Sir Isac Newton predicted the world will end in 2060

We have about 30 seconds...grab a towel and stick out your thumb....[global intercom begins speaking in background]
30 seconds!? I thought it was 12 minutes!


Before I answer this question, I demand proof that the world exists!

That was an OK movie.

O brave new world!

30 seconds!? I thought it was 12 minutes!


Before I answer this question, I demand proof that the world exists!


Everything outside my head isn't real, so when I sleep I technically destroy the world and then remake it again in the morning. So you've about six hours and a far bit of alcohol left before it ends again. :D

Sausage inna bun, sir? Guaranteed 100% rat free?

As for the bit about the Mayans...*agrees*
Guaranteed 100% meat-free as well, no?

And finally, someone sensible! Oh, wait. It's Tribes...

I saw a documentary where Sir Isac Newton predicted the world will end in 2060
Did he really? You know the man never had sex in his life?

It was destroyed about 130 years ago. We just haven't realised it yet. Humans can be very stubborn.

When Manium Rules!

the world doesn’t have an end because its round :D

I think that Earth's destruction would be better off being a surprise. That way there isn't any senseless rioting or looting.

...On the other hand, people shrieking and running around in random circles while cars slam into eachother is half the fun, isn't it? :D

I think that Earth's destruction would be better off being a surprise. That way there isn't any senseless rioting or looting.

...On the other hand, people shrieking and running around in random circles while cars slam into eachother is half the fun, isn't it? :D

No arguments here. Chaos and panic is one of my nation's specialities when it comes to ending worlds (I'm FT in I.I.).

Guaranteed 100% meat-free as well, no?

And finally, someone sensible! Oh, wait. It's Tribes...
And I refer you to one of your own quotes...
Tribes is slightly more unhinged than the rest...

I think that Earth's destruction would be better off being a surprise. That way there isn't any senseless rioting or looting.

...On the other hand, people shrieking and running around in random circles while cars slam into eachother is half the fun, isn't it? :D
Having never experienced the end of the world, I wouldn't know. But hell, it's what I'm going to be doing when the time comes. Unless I'm dead, of course.

And I refer you to one of your own quotes...
Shhhh. You'll give us both away.

Having never experienced the end of the world, I wouldn't know. But hell, it's what I'm going to be doing when the time comes. Unless I'm dead, of course.

I plan to be doing something a little more fun. Unless Im old in which case it would be sick.

Shhhh. You'll give us both away.
Nah, my Asylum lets us use the internet. They know aaaaall about my lithium requirements.

I plan to be doing something a little more fun. Unless Im old in which case it would be sick.
I don't see how playing tennis is sick if you're old...












Oooohhhhh...you disgust me!

I don't see how playing tennis is sick if you're old...












Oooohhhhh...you disgust me!

Gee, sorry.........:p

I watched Predicting Armaggedon on the History Channel about a year ago, the estimated year is 2012.


Yeah I chalk that one up with the planets aligned theory. It's bs truly. 2012 will come and pass without the world ending...

The world as we know it? 5-20 years from now, depending on when crude oil peaks. Or if/when an Avian Flu pandemic shuts the world down. But that's less likely.

The human race? Impossible to tell. I'd like to think we won't blow each other up, but I have a funny feeling that we may indeed be going there(I'm looking at you, US)

Earth? Several billion years, when the sun supernovas, which has a tendancy to really fuck up one's shit.

The Universe? Isn't the current theory that the universe will expand, then contract in on itself some time in the distant future?(I'm not up to par on Univese-related topics) Well I guess when that happens.

....and the secret priests would take great Cthulhu from His tomb to revive His subjects and resume His rule of earth. The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.

Morlocks huh? Someone's been following X-Men too closely.

Check out the game Earth 2160. The idea is pretty amazing and makes plenty of sense. Also, Massive Assault Network makes sense too.

Really, what it comes down to isn't oil or food or religion. The end of Earth will just be because of some natural event. Nukes won't send us out of orbit or result in Global warming up the wazoo (the cold war already happened, stop thinking in the past). The planet can't be blown up by us since we haven't reached the mantle yet. The moon won't crash because we decide to build mining facilities or cities on it. That's all sci-fi hogwash.

If anything we do is going to destroy the Earth, it's the possibility of Geothermal Energy harvesting disrupting the magnetic fields, but that's a longshot in itself and shouldn't happen for many millenia after people want another alternative to nuclear fission (fusion's got a while to go-give it 500 years at least).

People are more likely to live on much longer than anybody expects since we can adapt in such extrodinary ways and circumstances. Look at all the ways we formed civilizations ON Earth in all sorts of climates and in all sorts of ecopsystems. Today, we have so many ways of doing so many things - eating, housing, clothing, talking, etc.

People should live on for eons.
I perfer to be an optimistic realist than a pessimistic idealist.

Earth won't actually BE destroyed until the sun expands into a red giant 5 billion years from now, so we don't need to worry about the planet itself for quite a while :)

Civilisation as we know it, we'll recover after the peak of oil. We'll get in gear on development of renewable energy sources. It might take a decade of downtime, but it won't be too bad.

Probably within another 100-200 years from now, there will be some scares with the climate changes and fresh water availability. Some wars over religion. Nothing ridiculously serious.

Humanity will evolve over thousands of years to something different.

As for beyond the next couple hundred years, I don't really care. In fact, it sort of scares the hell out of me. But that's just me.

Take a guess. Maybe you'll be right. It's only a matter of time until we are forced to go underground for 800,000 years and slowly evolve into creatures known as Morlocks who will feed off of those who managed to survive above ground while the Earth transformed into tropical shit hole.

The earth will last forever. The thing is whether or not we will exist on the earth. I'll always be alive, either on earth or in Heaven. Doesn't bother me a bit.

Until Kim Jong-Il fired his "toy". :eek: :eek: :eek:

Is it going to go nova? I thought it only has mass to become a red giant, engulf the Earth, and then slowly become a white dwarf and, eventually, a cold dead star.


"Estimated" is such a strong word.


You're correct on that. the Sun doesn't have the mass to go supernova (that's what an exploding star is called. A nova is a different phenomenon).

You're correct on that. the Sun doesn't have the mass to go supernova (that's what an exploding star is called. A nova is a different phenomenon).
WOOO! Go people who like astrophysics!

*is excited*

You're correct on that. the Sun doesn't have the mass to go supernova (that's what an exploding star is called. A nova is a different phenomenon).

Yeah, our star will just end up as a little old white dwarf....:(

Probably surrounded by a planetary nebula.

Probably surrounded by a planetary nebula.

True; that's something slightly more interesting at least....

True; that's something slightly more interesting at least....
Just think - we'll all be part of a star in several billion years time. If that isn't cause for celebration, I don't know what is. :D

Yeah, our star will just end up as a little old white dwarf....:(

I believe the polite term is caucasion achondroplasiatic. I'm wrong, though.

the problem is how do you define "world" and how do you define "ending"? the dominance of organized coercive chauvanism will, hopefully at some point end. the coerciveness of human society might very well as well.

even a ten percent reduction in total human population would be reguarded as the end of something, even considering there are about 20 times too many of us already.

whatever does end, whenever it does, chances are reall good the rocks will still be here. the trees probably will and even the little furry creatures with big sharp teeth very well might.

the day will come when the power goes of and doesn't come back on and lots of folks living in cities will get real hungry. that's bound to be considered the end of something.

other then that, sure it sounds all real dramatic and everything to say stuff like 'the' 'world' 'ending', but putting that in a bit of context; all of human society ain't that big of a deal in the real universe that actualy surrounds us.

all we've ever been or will be, is one grain of sand on a VERY big beach on the shore of one ocean which we know to have other beaches, and for all we know there might even be other oceans.

we will of course, as a species, eventualy fade away. even as our individual lives on this planet come and go. but as a species, i somehow don't expect dramatic endings.

which is not to say we're not hastening the day by our own shortsighted hand. oceans will rise, and weather paterns are already chainging, largely as a resault of using combustion to generate energy and power transportation. but remember, ice has six times the volume of it's liquid water. so to raise sea levels even the few inches that we are likely to see requires the melting of LARGE portions of the polar caps. which would sound like a long shot except, of course, that they ARE melting.

so i don't see endings exactly as such, but i do see a real possibility of signiffigant chainges, that sensationalistic media will undoubtly dub 'the' ending of our 'world'.

oh yah, and of course the oil WILL run out. most of you will probably see that in your own lifetimes if not in mine. once the dust settles from people starving in the cities THAT will be a blessing rather then a curse.

sooner or later the corporatocracy might fall or at least be knocked down a peg. a probable blessing that media will probably try, and possibly succeed, to convince everyone is a curse too.

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Having never experienced the end of the world, I wouldn't know. But hell, it's what I'm going to be doing when the time comes. Unless I'm dead, of course.

Good man. Lose your mind. It helps. :)

Cameroi, your post is the first I read on this thread. You get the honour of being ragged on and never hearing from me again as I abandon the forums for another uncertain amount of time.

the problem is how do you define "world" and how do you define "ending"? the dominance of organized coercive chauvanism will, hopefully at some point end. the coerciveness of human society might very well as well.
I can't understand your lack of capitalisation, or your cryptic grammar in your last sentence, but I rather enjoy my loyalty to Napoleon Bonaparte, so bog off. Also, I think that what the author of this forum was trying to say is "When do you think that man will deplete his resources, and in search for minerals anew, destroy himself and all other life on Earth through some weird nuclear war or something." In fact, I think I phrased it much better.

even a ten percent reduction in total human population would be reguarded as the end of something, even considering there are about 20 times too many of us already.
A ten percent reduction of anything isn't regarded as much by me, and my opinion is ultimate. Twenty times too much: bring it on, though your figures are incorrect. If humans were anything like the lower orders of animals (say dolphins and chimps and whales), sure, we would have reached our carrying capacity long ago. But here in the good old US of A, we all seem to be doing fine. Humans, unlike animals, posess the ability to manipulate our environment. Therefore, we can bypass our carrying capacity with a few twists and turns. I personally do it all the time.

whatever does end, whenever it does, chances are reall good the rocks will still be here. the trees probably will and even the little furry creatures with big sharp teeth very well might.
Say that I smash every rock on earth into grains of dust, pour hundred of metric tonnes of CFC's into the atmosphere, and dump the contents of my laundry hamper into the ocean before my time. Where will your rocks and trees and care bears be then?

the day will come when the power goes of and doesn't come back on and lots of folks living in cities will get real hungry. that's bound to be considered the end of something.
If anybody ever listened to a thing I said, they'll resort immediately to cannibalism. It's completely natural, and it's not like prions are going to be a problem for them city slickers if they whine every time the power goes out. Also, I believe it's spelled "off".

other then that, sure it sounds all real dramatic and everything to say stuff like 'the' 'world' 'ending', but putting that in a bit of context; all of human society ain't that big of a deal in the real universe that actualy surrounds us.
It will be as soon as I fulfill my life dream to have kinky sex in space.

all we've ever been or will be, is one grain of sand on a VERY big beach on the shore of one ocean which we know to have other beaches, and for all we know there might even be other oceans.
Quit watching Carl Sagan. Quantum physics make sense to a degree, but I've found logical problems with it. I forget exactly what I found, but I'll give a crack at it. If you refer to parallel universes in that segment I just quoted, allow me to ask you this: What separates these universes? There's probably an answer to that, but it's not my point. Quantum physics theory states that there are a rather sizeable number of variables which determine our universe (and possibly many others) as the way it is. This would have to mean that there is some incredibly orderly expression which explains this objective. In other words, there's an equation out there which could hold the answers to all that was and all that has ever been. And as in any equation, the two sides of the expression are proportional to each other. Ergo, one event in a parallel universe would effect us here. To date, I have seen no evidence of unexplained phenomena from across a wormhole affecting our everyday lives. Not from another universe, anyway.

we will of course, as a species, eventualy fade away. even as our individual lives on this planet come and go. but as a species, i somehow don't expect dramatic endings.
I agree with you on this one. However, the possibility of having a dramatic ending to our nondescript existence is still rather high, and waxes every hour.

which is not to say we're not hastening the day by our own shortsighted hand. oceans will rise, and weather paterns are already chainging, largely as a resault of using combustion to generate energy and power transportation. but remember, ice has six times the volume of it's liquid water. so to raise sea levels even the few inches that we are likely to see requires the melting of LARGE portions of the polar caps. which would sound like a long shot except, of course, that they ARE melting.
Try a little experiment for me: Take a bottle of water, fill it to its (yes, you don't need an apostrophe to make "it" posessive) very brim, cap it tightly, and put it in the freezer. If ice contained six times its own volume in water, then it couldn't float. Sure, oceans will still rise some from the excess water above sea level, but it's not like it's going to really affect any one. So New Orleans will have to rebuild again, but it's their own damn fault for living twenty feet below sea level. Maybe Steven Spielberg will have to sell his Malibu beach house, but the entire world isn't going to flood if the icecaps melt.

so i don't see endings exactly as such, but i do see a real possibility of signiffigant chainges, that sensationalistic media will undoubtly dub 'the' ending of our 'world'.
Probably true. All the more reason to commit the media of treason and put millions out of employment.

oh yah, and of course the oil WILL run out. most of you will probably see that in your own lifetimes if not in mine. once the dust settles from people starving in the cities THAT will be a blessing rather then a curse.
I don't see any relevance between those two topics. None at all. Oil will undoubtedly run out, but hundreds of thousands of years from now, it will be back. Whether or not there are people to pump that oil, I don't know, but it sounds like fun.

sooner or later the corporatocracy might fall or at least be knocked down a peg. a probable blessing that media will probably try, and possibly succeed, to convince everyone is a curse too.
Are you with the ELF by any chance? No? Democrat? Hmm. Well, as long as Capitalism and free market keep us from living like Argentinians or any other dictatorship, past or present, there's bound to be a multitude of people whining about corporations and taxes, so I propose we drop Capitalism for a few years and say "What now, bitch? What now?"

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I have no idea what this is, but it doesn't make you look very professional. Your spelling and capitalisation really could use some work. Punctuation wasn't too bad, though it could use some improvement yet.

Now, about this end of the world business. I say don't worry about it; From the time I write this, 43.03 percent of the people who voted on this poll have this shit under control.

Didn't you know? The world already ended six years ago. I'm not sure how you could have missed it, because it was pretty obvious. Were you not paying attention?

:p

Cameroi, the sea levels will only rise if the Antarctic ice melts. Due to water displacement, the amount the water level drops due to it freezing in an ice cube is equivalent to how much the water level rises by there being a large ice cube in the water. If the arctic caps melt, sea level-wise, no one will notice.