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What TV show would you like to star in and why?

Briantonnia
30-12-2005, 01:45
What TV show would you most like to appear on and why?

Me I'd like to be on a few, but the top of the list would be the West Wing, great acting, snappy dialogue, fantastic walking through corridors shots and the topics of the program are always top notch. Plus some cool actors are on the show, Martin Sheen, Brad Whitford (Josh), Richard Schiff (Tobey) and of course the late John Spencer (Leo) [RIP]
Democratic Colonies
30-12-2005, 02:22
Star Trek, once it gets back on its feet. Why?

A) I'm a big geek, and
B) Star in Star Trek or have a recurring role in Star Trek, and you're set for life as you can just make a living just off of the convention circuit

One part geekism and one part capitalism leads me to my choice. :)
Pure Metal
30-12-2005, 02:26
star trek, cos it rocks.

i think i could pull off an admiral pretty well (no pun intended, ye of dirty minds :rolleyes: )
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 02:29
I believe we have a cast together already: Star Trek!

But no techno-babble for me, I'd rather be a scientific doctor, so I can say "He's dead!" and all those things I am not, but a doctor ;)

And no, I'm not going to put on a red shirt on away missions, uh-uh!
The Black Forrest
30-12-2005, 02:31
Hmmmm

Star Trek, Star Gate and BattleStar Galatica.....
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
30-12-2005, 02:43
Star Trek for me too. As long as it is TOS, TNG, or DS9ish. Enterprise and Voyager sucked ass. That 70's show would be pretty cool too.
Colodia
30-12-2005, 02:45
Either The Colbert Report or The Daily Show. Gotta love it.
Myrmidonisia
30-12-2005, 02:50
Easy. Either the 1960s "Mr. Wizard", or the more recent "Bill Nye the Science Guy". I would have to change my name to Bill Nye, though.
Katzistanza
30-12-2005, 02:51
Fierfly, 1) because Mal is my favorite TV character
2) The writing is great, the acting amazing
3) Awesome, different form the norm stories
4) I have a huge crush on Jewel Staite :)
Peechland
30-12-2005, 02:53
"Friends" because I am the female version of Chandler as far as sense of humor goes and I think theyd hire me as a reg for the show. Well maybe not but I just have to meet Chandler once in my life and touch Jennifer Annistons hair.....it looks so soft. damn her.
Pure Metal
30-12-2005, 02:53
Star Trek for me too. As long as it is TOS, TNG, or DS9ish. Enterprise and Voyager sucked ass. That 70's show would be pretty cool too.
bah voyager ruled... i'd have loved to be in that one (*cough 7 of 9 cough*), so let the nerd wars commence!

*sets phaser to 'pwn'* ;)
Colodia
30-12-2005, 02:54
"Friends" because I am the female version of Chandler as far as sense of humor goes and I think theyd hire me as a reg for the show. Well maybe not but I just have to meet Chandler once in my life and touch Jennifer Annistons hair.....it looks so soft. damn her.
You'll have to defeat me, the male version of Chandler, in a fight to the death!

Could I be anymore like him?
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
30-12-2005, 03:06
bah voyager ruled... i'd have loved to be in that one (*cough 7 of 9 cough*), so let the nerd wars commence!

*sets phaser to 'pwn'* ;)


Phaser, like I'd use some crappy federation or ferengi weapon? Give me a disruptor any day. (Romulan/Reman version)


As for Voyager "ruling"... puh-leez. Vouager sucked so bad the only reason it survived was because they kept putting 7 of 9's uniform in the ultra-hot dry cycle to make it tighter. Her body was ok I guess, but I still hated the short hair and her face was weird looking. Give me Troi, either of the Dax girls, or some of the various blue and green aliens Kirk got around with over 7 any day.

Tom Paris was an O.K. character. But the rest were all poorly written. And Janeway was the worst captain EVER. She was so terrible she even made the Quantum Leap guy look good.
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 03:13
(...)
*sets phaser to 'pwn'* ;)

Damn, I should've known that there's that setting, too!

As a sidenote, I figured I didn't really need to state a reason once I mentioned StarTrek, right? Right?!?

Come to think of it, I just realized I watched the Pilot to BattlestarGalactica the other month and I must say, Katee Sackhoff (Starbuck) is very hot, too. And Amanda Tapping (Sam Carter). And pretty much all the female cast from Buffy as well. Damn, I watch way too much tv if there is such a thing!
So, maybe BTVS would be another sound choice indeed!
Peechland
30-12-2005, 03:13
You'll have to defeat me, the male version of Chandler, in a fight to the death!

Could I be anymore like him?

haha Colodia...its on.
Utracia
30-12-2005, 03:14
Third Watch. That show was awsome and annoyed me to no end when they ended it.
Pure Metal
30-12-2005, 03:15
Phaser, like I'd use some crappy federation or ferengi weapon? Give me a disruptor any day. (Romulan/Reman version)


As for Voyager "ruling"... puh-leez. Vouager sucked so bad the only reason it survived was because they kept putting 7 of 9's uniform in the ultra-hot dry cycle to make it tighter. Her body was ok I guess, but I still hated the short hair and her face was weird looking. Give me Troi, either of the Dax girls, or some of the various blue and green aliens Kirk got around with over 7 any day.

Tom Paris was an O.K. character. But the rest were all poorly written. And Janeway was the worst captain EVER. She was so terrible she even made the Quantum Leap guy look good.
i think i know what a disruptor is, athank you :rolleyes:

the rest of your post i simply disagree with... entirely. 7 of 9 was hawt, the dax girls just weren't (especially evil ezri! :mad: ), janeway was a pseudo-pickard but even more nicey-nicey (and a ton better than sisko... not even counting archer), and the characterisation of the voyager cast was brilliant imo - so many of the characters (kim, the doctor, 7, paris to an extent) started with a clean/blank slate, you really get to grow with them and understand them... its more like a soap in that respect. maybe individual eps don't stack up to TNG ones, but as a series i feel its the most complete or 'whole' :)
that, said, troi was a babe *nods*

i think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one cos i get the back up every trekkie by my love of VOY, and i have yet to relent to public opinion or ridicule...
Briantonnia
30-12-2005, 03:32
Since everyones on a Trek buzz I just have to say the following:

Seven of Nine = uberHOT
Troi = hot
Jadzia = Hot
Kira = Hot
Dr. Podalski or whatever that one who replaced Crusher was called = NOT HOT

EDIT: Polaski, the ugly doc was called Polaski

Also, everyone dissed Enterprise but I just have to say one of the best episodes of Trek I ever saw was 'A Mirror, Darkly' the mirror universe one with the Terran Empire. That kicked ass. The opening sequence alone... cool... plus the Asian comm officer = Hot, Jolene Blalock? Need I say more?
Briantonnia
30-12-2005, 03:35
PS, DS9 is by far the best Trek. Not the first three seasons, they were rubbish, but the Dominion Wars kicked ass and Sisko was a demi-god for all intents and purposes. And he punched Q! Picard only got snippy with him in an off hand British way and Janeway nearly had his kid. Sisko? Nah, decked the omnipotent pansy.
Briantonnia
30-12-2005, 03:36
Man thats getting really geeky :eek: I better go watch some DIY programs or something...
Quibbleville
30-12-2005, 03:36
I'd like to star on 60 Minutes as Mike Wallace.
Straughn
30-12-2005, 03:38
What TV show would you most like to appear on and why?

Me I'd like to be on a few, but the top of the list would be the West Wing, great acting, snappy dialogue, fantastic walking through corridors shots and the topics of the program are always top notch. Plus some cool actors are on the show, Martin Sheen, Brad Whitford (Josh), Richard Schiff (Tobey) and of course the late John Spencer (Leo) [RIP]
MXC, The Daily Show, or Carnivale.
MXC - no need to explain. Just watch it. It rocks.
The Daily Show - I wouldn't mind being interviewed by Rob Corddry.
Carnivale - It's a cool friggin' show. I wouldn't mind having my energy transferred for some reason and to play a corpse for the rest of the episode.
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 03:40
Kira wasn't that hot. I'd prefer B'Elanna Torres over her any day. And on what were the producers when they put Pulaski on the D?!? Man, I don't even think she would've been hot in Kirk's time...

And I really don't understand why everyone seems to be so upset about Enterprise. I mean, come on, the first 3 seasons of DS9 were worse than that. Plus the actresses are... Never mind - even if I stress that point more often it won't change my apparently chauvinist approach to watching tv and selecting what I like.

(Gilmore Girls, anyone?)
Quibbleville
30-12-2005, 03:41
Man, I don't even think she would've been hot in Kirk's time...
There's no point in quibbling over this one; she wasn't. She was the blind assistant to the Medusan ambassador on TOS.
Briantonnia
30-12-2005, 03:42
Kira wasn't that hot. I'd prefer B'Elanna Torres over her any day. And on what were the producers when they put Pulaski on the D?!? Man, I don't even think she would've been hot in Kirk's time...


Kirk still would have nailed her though.
Briantonnia
30-12-2005, 03:44
B'Elanna was ok but I'd nibbled that ridge off Kira's nose anyday
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 03:45
There's no point in quibbling over this one; she wasn't. She was the blind assistant to the Medusan ambassador on TOS.
Oh! I knew that! (Actually, I didn't - so thanks for the update)

Kirk still would have nailed her though.
Yeah, well, but that's Kirk for you :D
Briantonnia
30-12-2005, 03:46
Yeah, well, but that's Kirk for you :D


The Man's a legend in his own mind
Straughn
30-12-2005, 03:47
B'Elanna was ok but I'd nibbled that ridge off Kira's nose anydayThat's what Siddig ended up doing. They had a baby!!
Now he's in Syriana.
I hope he has a little Our Man Bashir left in him.
*grits his teeth*
Maineiacs
30-12-2005, 03:47
The West Wing, CSI, or Law and Order. All are well written, and have excellent casts. There aren't too many really good sitcoms right now; most of the older sitcoms have jumped the shark, and the newer ones sucked right out of the gate. As an actor, I'd rather work with quality material which, unfortunately, isn't always available (who wouldn't, right?). Realistically, however, I'd take whatever job I can get.
TaoTai
30-12-2005, 03:48
Samurai Jack, the only tricky part would be getting animated, but just say some lines into a mike and watch your cartoon self kick some ass. Minimum effort, maximum results.
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 03:48
B'Elanna was ok but I'd nibbled that ridge off Kira's nose anyday
She's all yours. I'd rather get freaky with the Duras sisters ;)
Katzistanza
30-12-2005, 03:48
the rest of your post i simply disagree with... entirely. 7 of 9 was hawt, the dax girls just weren't (especially evil ezri! :mad: ), janeway was a pseudo-pickard but even more nicey-nicey (and a ton better than sisko... not even counting archer), and the characterisation of the voyager cast was brilliant imo - so many of the characters (kim, the doctor, 7, paris to an extent) started with a clean/blank slate, you really get to grow with them and understand them... its more like a soap in that respect. maybe individual eps don't stack up to TNG ones, but as a series i feel its the most complete or 'whole' :)
that, said, troi was a babe *nods*

I agree completly on your Voyager points. That is my favorite overall serise. Especially once you get latter in the serise, once you get attached to the characters. I think they did a very good job of making them "real." But of course all you who are too snooty to have watched for that long never got to see it :p
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 03:51
The West Wing, CSI, or Law and Order. All are well written, and have excellent casts. There aren't too many really good sitcoms right now; most of the older sitcoms have jumped the shark, and the newer ones sucked right out of the gate. As an actor, I'd rather work with quality material which, unfortunately, isn't always available (who wouldn't, right?). Realistically, however, I'd take whatever job I can get.
Oh man, CSI Las Vegas is just it!!! Florida is okay and they just recently started airing New York over here, so I'll leave that one out of the equasion for now.
Straughn
30-12-2005, 03:58
The West Wing, CSI, or Law and Order. All are well written, and have excellent casts. There aren't too many really good sitcoms right now; most of the older sitcoms have jumped the shark, and the newer ones sucked right out of the gate. As an actor, I'd rather work with quality material which, unfortunately, isn't always available (who wouldn't, right?). Realistically, however, I'd take whatever job I can get.
Ahhh i think i'd also play a suspect who gets a cavity search and de-lousing from Jorja Fox.
And whatever else ... ;)

EDIT: I might add i could rip that moustache off of Nick's face and wear it in strange places for that cavity search, then i'd give it back to him unrinsed.
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 04:24
Ahhh i think i'd also play a suspect who gets a cavity search and de-lousing from Jorja Fox.
And whatever else ... ;)

EDIT: I might add i could rip that moustache off of Nick's face and wear it in strange places for that cavity search, then i'd give it back to him unrinsed.
He'll be snapping pictures all the time, so you better leave Nick alone ;)
Mmmh... Jorja. Man, even Marg still has a certain sassyness to her.
Qwystyria
30-12-2005, 04:30
Firefly, because they get original lines that make fun of things and say things that are exactly what I would say in that situation.

Or

Alias, because then I could kick some butt on TV and that would just rock.
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 04:34
Firefly, because they get original lines that make fun of things and say things that are exactly what I would say in that situation.

Or

Alias, because then I could kick some butt on TV and that would just rock.
I should really go check a rental of Firefly (hopefully available). It's also a Joss Whedon show, and judging from how much I enjoyed the dialogue on Buffy...

And I can't believe I missed Serenity at the movies... One week they're showing it and once I get interested - gone!
Straughn
30-12-2005, 04:37
I should really go check a rental of Firefly (hopefully available). It's also a Joss Whedon show, and judging from how much I enjoyed the dialogue on Buffy...

And I can't believe I missed Serenity at the movies... One week they're showing it and once I get interested - gone!
TOTALLY F*CKING WORTH IT.
I only gots ONE complaint. Joss's song is a little disturbing.
The series and movie are otherwise just about perfect. T'aint faint praise.
Straughn
30-12-2005, 04:38
He'll be snapping pictures all the time, so you better leave Nick alone ;)
Mmmh... Jorja. Man, even Marg still has a certain sassyness to her.
A sandwich (sans Nick but still including the moustache) would work just fine.
Marg could apply some of her dancer techniques. Mmmm, all together in a fine lather would suit me plenty.
Quibbleville
30-12-2005, 04:39
I've changed my mind. I'd like to star in 'The Jack Parr Show' as Jack Parr. Let's not quibble; my reasons are twofold. One: I'd be funnier than Carson. Two: Tiki-Lounge-A-Go-Go, Baby!
Lachenburg
30-12-2005, 04:40
I'd love to be on one of those funny infomericals as the guy who tries to assembly the alternative product but can't because it is 'too complicated.' Or the terrible actor who tries to convince you that his online career program isn't a scam.

Then my life would be complete, or at least my dignity would be gone.
Cannot think of a name
30-12-2005, 04:49
I'd love to be on one of those funny infomericals as the guy who tries to assembly the alternative product but can't because it is 'too complicated.' Or the terrible actor who tries to convince you that his online career program isn't a scam.

Then my life would be complete, or at least my dignity would be gone.
"You twist and you pull, you pull and you twist, but you just can't seem to get that door to budge." "I bought a doorknob to let me in places, not keep me out!" "Now..."

AAAaaannnyway...

Muppet Show. When I was a kid, and before I hit upon the idea that I could operate one of the Muppets, I thought the best way was to get famous so I could get on the Muppet Show...
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 04:54
*whistles Muppet Show tune*
Katzistanza
30-12-2005, 05:08
Firefly, because they get original lines that make fun of things and say things that are exactly what I would say in that situation.

Hell yes! Damn Fox for canceling them ::shakes fist::

TOTALLY F*CKING WORTH IT.
I only gots ONE complaint. Joss's song is a little disturbing.
The series and movie are otherwise just about perfect. T'aint faint praise.

I live the opening scene to Firefly. It sums up the themes of the show perfictly.


I just watched Shindig again today, I had forgot how good an episode that one was. It has some awesome dialogue, it would be fun to act in.

I'd also like to do the scene were Mal and Wash are being totured by Niska, or the one in the origonal where Mal shots the Fed in the face (one of my favorite scenes)
Straughn
30-12-2005, 05:15
Hell yes! Damn Fox for canceling them ::shakes fist::



I live the opening scene to Firefly. It sums up the themes of the show perfictly.


I just watched Shindig again today, I had forgot how good an episode that one was. It has some awesome dialogue, it would be fun to act in.

I'd also like to do the scene were Mal and Wash are being totured by Niska, or the one in the origonal where Mal shots the Fed in the face (one of my favorite scenes)
Did you hear the demo song?

Also, you could mention just about ANY episode and i would react with equal appreciation.

I have a lingering suspicion that "Heart Of Gold" is my favourite episode, though ... that and "Objects In Space".
Argh ... as i'd said, i'm likely to argue for all of them.

The reason why i didn't pick Firefly earlier for a series is because i narrowed m'self to current series. It'd be f*cking fabulous though if the movie kicked the series back on. *fingers crossed*
Novoga
30-12-2005, 05:51
Phaser, like I'd use some crappy federation or ferengi weapon? Give me a disruptor any day. (Romulan/Reman version)


As for Voyager "ruling"... puh-leez. Vouager sucked so bad the only reason it survived was because they kept putting 7 of 9's uniform in the ultra-hot dry cycle to make it tighter. Her body was ok I guess, but I still hated the short hair and her face was weird looking. Give me Troi, either of the Dax girls, or some of the various blue and green aliens Kirk got around with over 7 any day.

Tom Paris was an O.K. character. But the rest were all poorly written. And Janeway was the worst captain EVER. She was so terrible she even made the Quantum Leap guy look good.

Another person to add to the list....

THE LIST OF PEOPLE I WISH TO KILL.......on the holodeck
Eutrusca
30-12-2005, 05:54
What TV show would you most like to appear on and why?
Stragate SG-1 and The X-Files ( RIP ), 'cause I like both of 'em. :p
Novoga
30-12-2005, 05:54
PS, DS9 is by far the best Trek. Not the first three seasons, they were rubbish, but the Dominion Wars kicked ass and Sisko was a demi-god for all intents and purposes. And he punched Q! Picard only got snippy with him in an off hand British way and Janeway nearly had his kid. Sisko? Nah, decked the omnipotent pansy.

Yet another reason to hate Sisko....

Sure Q can be annoying but he is still one of the best characters in Star Trek.
Amisk
30-12-2005, 06:37
I hate t.v. You have to turn of your brain in order to enjoy it. You have to turn of your brain and ingore everyone around you. It isolates you. We have no sense of community anymore because we all rush home to watch the idiot box. Sick.
Amisk
30-12-2005, 06:38
Shoot. I mean turn off. Not of.
Amisk
30-12-2005, 06:38
I can't blame that on t.v. I don't watch it.
Katzistanza
30-12-2005, 06:49
Did you hear the demo song?

Also, you could mention just about ANY episode and i would react with equal appreciation.

I have a lingering suspicion that "Heart Of Gold" is my favourite episode, though ... that and "Objects In Space".
Argh ... as i'd said, i'm likely to argue for all of them.

The reason why i didn't pick Firefly earlier for a series is because i narrowed m'self to current series. It'd be f*cking fabulous though if the movie kicked the series back on. *fingers crossed*

The great thing is, each episode is good for different reasons. That's why it's so hard to pick a favorite, methinks.
Straughn
30-12-2005, 07:39
I hate t.v. You have to turn of your brain in order to enjoy it. You have to turn of your brain and ingore everyone around you. It isolates you. We have no sense of community anymore because we all rush home to watch the idiot box. Sick.
One could substitute "monitor" for "t.v." ....?
Straughn
30-12-2005, 07:40
The great thing is, each episode is good for different reasons. That's why it's so hard to pick a favorite, methinks.
Agreed, WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
*bows*
Cannot think of a name
30-12-2005, 07:50
I hate t.v. You have to turn of your brain in order to enjoy it. You have to turn of your brain and ingore everyone around you. It isolates you. We have no sense of community anymore because we all rush home to watch the idiot box. Sick.
It's alright to hate television, but there has to be some honesty to it.

It might be that shutting off your brain is what is preventing you from enjoying the intellegent programing that is out there. Or the joy of being a critical viewer.

There are shows that people gather to see. Every week in college a roommate hosted a group who would watch The Shield. They would interact before, during and afterwards. No one was ignored.

Further, television is the fire that we gather around, it's the shared experience, the story. Without television I would be isolated from the rest of the country with no real immediate consideration of something that's no more abstract than a description. The television covers more of the world than I could and doesn't prevent me from experiencing it on my own.

I'm not saying all or even most of the programing is worth the air it's transmitted through, or that everyone has to dig it. But "Kill Your Television" isn't anymore informed really.
Freeunitedstates
30-12-2005, 08:04
well, right now i'm watching Love Hina. Though, Ghost in the Shell is also appealling (no, not because of that!) I'd go for either Motoko's. I don't know why, but i got a thing for the girls that could beat me to a pulp (no, not like that either!) anyone else name their car tachicoma? ^_^
Hullepupp
30-12-2005, 08:07
Gilmore Girls...
I wanna play the oldest lover Rory ever had....
Katzistanza
30-12-2005, 08:11
Ghost In the Shell is a good show. It causes me a problem. I have to get up early every day for my new job, but I like to watch Ghost In The Shell at 1:30 am :(

The only thing is it bothers me that the tachicomas have annoying little child voices. If I was building an AI tank, it would sound more bad-ass, or at least more professional.
Wildwolfden
30-12-2005, 12:27
CSI Miami because it is cool :cool:
Pure Metal
30-12-2005, 12:30
I agree completly on your Voyager points. That is my favorite overall serise. Especially once you get latter in the serise, once you get attached to the characters. I think they did a very good job of making them "real." But of course all you who are too snooty to have watched for that long never got to see it :p
*nods* thank you :fluffle:
(see, i'm right *sticks out tongue to all you VOY-haters* ;))


PS, DS9 is by far the best Trek. Not the first three seasons, they were rubbish, but the Dominion Wars kicked ass and Sisko was a demi-god for all intents and purposes. And he punched Q! Picard only got snippy with him in an off hand British way and Janeway nearly had his kid. Sisko? Nah, decked the omnipotent pansy.
hmm i like DS9 for the same reason i like voyager (more like a soap/characterisation>just events) but could never get into the characters. watched it a lot tho... just haven't bought dvds yet. i mean, dr bashir? pleaaaase...
garet (sp?) was cool, had an attitude problem; odo was a wanker; sisko was a nonce; kira got on my nerves (but she was hot!); and neither dax were hot... but i'll stop hijacking this thread now :(
Wildwolfden
30-12-2005, 12:35
:cool: *nods* thank you :fluffle:
(see, i'm right *sticks out tongue to all you VOY-haters* ;))



hmm i like DS9 for the same reason i like voyager (more like a soap/characterisation>just events) but could never get into the characters. watched it a lot tho... just haven't bought dvds yet. i mean, dr bashir? pleaaaase...
garet (sp?) was cool, had an attitude problem; odo was a wanker; sisko was a nonce; kira got on my nerves (but she was hot!); and neither dax were hot... but i'll stop hijacking this thread now :(


cool :cool: I like ST/\R TREK too
SHAENDRA
30-12-2005, 13:45
Gilmore Girls...
I wanna play the oldest lover Rory ever had....
Hey! No Fair.;) I was going for that. I'll guess i'll have to settle for being Lorelai's secret lover.Such Sacrifice:p
German Nightmare
30-12-2005, 13:58
I hate t.v. You have to turn of your brain in order to enjoy it. You have to turn of your brain and ingore everyone around you. It isolates you. We have no sense of community anymore because we all rush home to watch the idiot box. Sick. Shoot. I mean turn off. Not of. I can't blame that on t.v. I don't watch it.
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/7879721/113600

Gilmore Girls...
I wanna play the oldest lover Rory ever had....
Oh yeah, you're in! We could make it a double-date. I'd so do her mom :D (Which reminds me - I still need to see Bad Santa!)
And we should have Paris join us for a sleepover http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/evillol.gif
Cahnt
30-12-2005, 14:07
"Perverts Who've Had Weird Sex With Alysson Hannigan".
It isn't going to happen, but this thread is about daydreams, is it not?
Freeunitedstates
30-12-2005, 21:23
Ghost In the Shell is a good show. It causes me a problem. I have to get up early every day for my new job, but I like to watch Ghost In The Shell at 1:30 am :(

The only thing is it bothers me that the tachicomas have annoying little child voices. If I was building an AI tank, it would sound more bad-ass, or at least more professional.

^_^
the cute childs' voice makes it appealing. remember knight rider? the voice was some old english guy, made him sound like a pretentious a**hole. plus, if they do get individuality, it be cool if their voices would 'growup.'
Free Mercantile States
30-12-2005, 21:42
Stargate SG-1 (cause that's such a cool show) or House (smart, really funny, always interesting - what's not to like?).
Briantonnia
31-12-2005, 03:18
House would be a good choice too... Hugh Laurie was always just an annoying English 'comedian' until that show. Now he's a firm favourite of mine.

And to the guy hating on tv, how about the history channel, discovery channel, national geographic? TV is no longer the idiot box, but a tool of the multimedia age for accessing information. Also, one of the most social occassions round this parts is when you sit down with family/friends/complete strangers and watch a football match. (Real football, not gridiron)
Straughn
31-12-2005, 03:50
"Perverts Who've Had Weird Sex With Alysson Hannigan".
It isn't going to happen, but this thread is about daydreams, is it not?
AARGHGHGHGHGHGHHHH!!!!!!!
*whimpers and bounces around*
Dammitdammitdammit
That cinches it. I'll now argue that there IS a conspiracy of implants and subliminal messages that makes people think along the same lines and the same things.
Maineiacs
31-12-2005, 04:00
"Perverts Who've Had Weird Sex With Alysson Hannigan".
It isn't going to happen, but this thread is about daydreams, is it not?


Let's start a petition. Does it have to be weird sex?:D
Droskianishk
31-12-2005, 04:04
Family Guy count?

PETER RULES!!!!
German Nightmare
31-12-2005, 04:22
"Perverts Who've Had Weird Sex With Alysson Hannigan".
It isn't going to happen, but this thread is about daydreams, is it not?
Been there, dreamed that! http://smilies.vidahost.com/cwm/3dlil/la.gif

You are absolutely right! You have seen her video, right?

AARGHGHGHGHGHGHHHH!!!!!!!
*whimpers and bounces around*
Dammitdammitdammit
That cinches it. I'll now argue that there IS a conspiracy of implants and subliminal messages that makes people think along the same lines and the same things.
Know what our problem is?
As if you were wearing your tinfoil hat right now...

Man, some women are just too fine!

Let's start a petition. Does it have to be weird sex?:D
If it has to be weird to have sex with Willow I'd do pretty much anything. As long as it is sex with Alison... *drools buckets*
Straughn
31-12-2005, 04:26
Know what our problem is?
As if you were wearing your tinfoil hat right now...

I KNOW WHAT MY PROBLEM IS. That's why the tinfoil hat IS where i've strategically placed it!!!! :eek:

Thanks for the link! My wife says "Oh btw f*ck you now i'll NEVER get him off that computer"
;)

As for it "having" to be weird sex ... WHO F*CKING CARES?!?!? IT'S ALYSON HANNIGAN!!
Straughn
31-12-2005, 04:28
Family Guy count?

PETER RULES!!!!
Yikes. This is an abrupt and unpleasant mental-image shift in the topicline (at this point)
German Nightmare
31-12-2005, 04:31
I KNOW WHAT MY PROBLEM IS. That's why the tinfoil hat IS where i've strategically placed it!!!! :eek:

Thanks for the link! My wife says "Oh btw f*ck you now i'll NEVER get him off that computer"
;)

As for it "having" to be weird sex ... WHO F*CKING CARES?!?!? IT'S ALYSON HANNIGAN!!
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY!
Droskianishk
31-12-2005, 04:34
Yikes. This is an abrupt and unpleasant mental-image shift in the topicline (at this point)


Peater Gryphon
Kroisistan
31-12-2005, 04:34
Stargate SG-1(one of my favorite shows), Star Trek(who doesn't want to star in Star Trek?) or Battlestar Galactica(the new ones, also a favorite show).

I like the Law and Order's as well, but the odds of me ending up as the guy who gets life for killing a hooker or something are much higher than the odds of me being a detective or whatnot. And I don't need that kind of situation.:p
Maineiacs
31-12-2005, 04:41
You are absolutely right! You have seen her video, right?


She has a video? No, I haven't seen it. Where can I find it?
*drool*
Smunkeeville
31-12-2005, 04:51
I got 3

1) SNL I swear I could make it funny again :P
2) Gilmore Girls (my fav. show of all time, I could meet Lauren Graham:D and you know the quick pace and hilarious dialogue and kickass pop culture references)
3) Star Trek (yep, I am a trekkie, you can blame my husband)
Smunkeeville
31-12-2005, 04:56
Phaser, like I'd use some crappy federation or ferengi weapon? Give me a disruptor any day. (Romulan/Reman version)


As for Voyager "ruling"... puh-leez. Vouager sucked so bad the only reason it survived was because they kept putting 7 of 9's uniform in the ultra-hot dry cycle to make it tighter. Her body was ok I guess, but I still hated the short hair and her face was weird looking. Give me Troi, either of the Dax girls, or some of the various blue and green aliens Kirk got around with over 7 any day.

Tom Paris was an O.K. character. But the rest were all poorly written. And Janeway was the worst captain EVER. She was so terrible she even made the Quantum Leap guy look good.
okay I know that this is a whole bunch of pages in but...........

Voyager while not as good as TNG was def. better than DS9 by 1,000,000,000
times.

but then again my kids are named after Voyager characters, one of them is named after Kathryn Janeway and if she heard what you said about her she would kick the crap out of you (okay I would stop her, but she would be pretty mad)

I would like to point out that Janeway imo was a much better captain than Archer, but then again basically anyone was.
Maineiacs
31-12-2005, 04:58
okay I know that this is a whole bunch of pages in but...........

Voyager while not as good as TNG was def. better than DS9 by 1,000,000,000
times.

but then again my kids are named after Voyager characters, one of them is named after Kathryn Janeway and if she heard what you said about her she would kick the crap out of you (okay I would stop her, but she would be pretty mad)

I would like to point out that Janeway imo was a much better captain than Archer, but then again basically anyone was.


Smunkee, please tell me you don't have a daughter named Seven-of-Nine...
Smunkeeville
31-12-2005, 05:00
Smunkee, please tell me you don't have a daughter named Seven-of-Nine...
actually yeah, sorta...... she is named Annika which was Seven-of-Nine's name before the Borg got her family.
Maineiacs
31-12-2005, 05:02
actually yeah, sorta...... she is named Annika which was Seven-of-Nine's name before the Borg got her family.



Not that that wouldn't have been funny... :D
Smunkeeville
31-12-2005, 05:06
Not that that wouldn't have been funny... :D
yeah. We decided not to have any more kids in part because we were running out of good names from Voyager. LOL

I mean we had Tom and Harry (which I hate because they are shortened names, much like my own and people assume the longer version is my name and call me that and it annoys me)

or we could go B'lana (which is too weird to slap on a kid) or Tuvok (also too weird)

We thought about jumping series, because there were a lot of good names on TNG but then maybe the kid would fell left out (being from a different era of star trek although only slightly)

btw, yes we know we are weird, but we don't care. ;)
Maineiacs
31-12-2005, 05:09
yeah. We decided not to have any more kids in part because we were running out of good names from Voyager. LOL

I mean we had Tom and Harry (which I hate because they are shortened names, much like my own and people assume the longer version is my name and call me that and it annoys me)

or we could go B'lana (which is too weird to slap on a kid) or Tuvok (also too weird)

We thought about jumping series, because there were a lot of good names on TNG but then maybe the kid would fell left out (being from a different era of star trek although only slightly)

btw, yes we know we are weird, but we don't care. ;)

How about Deanna if it's a girl, Jean-Luc if it's a boy?
German Nightmare
31-12-2005, 05:10
Smunkeeville, you are my hero. Say "hi" to your kids.
German Nightmare
31-12-2005, 05:14
She has a video? No, I haven't seen it. Where can I find it?
*drool*
Sorry, can't link that post. I'd get into serious trouble. But be imaginative. Keep your eyes open. Celebrities can be found in... places with n0rp!
Straughn
31-12-2005, 05:15
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY!
Hail, hail!!!! *bows*

Sage word indeed!
Smunkeeville
31-12-2005, 05:16
How about Deanna if it's a girl, Jean-Luc if it's a boy?
sure, but then if we only had one more kid then we have 2 voyager babies and only 1 TNG, then he/she would feel different. (or the other 2 would be jealous, Annika likes TOS better anyway she wants me to change her name to Uhura but I refuse)

Smunkeeville, you are my hero. Say "hi" to your kids.
thanks. ;) My inlaws were super mad at me, they thought marriage would slow down my husband's trekki-ness but I think I sped it up lol

My kids are going to their first convention this summer, they are sooo excited, I haven't decided yet if I am going to let them dress up, the 4 year old wants to be a klingon and the 2 year old wants to be romulan so I have to find gluten free glue for their prothesis or make them dress up normal like the rest of us. (normal meaning Star Fleet and non-alien, not normal actually)
Maineiacs
31-12-2005, 05:21
sure, but then if we only had one more kid then we have 2 voyager babies and only 1 TNG, then he/she would feel different. (or the other 2 would be jealous, Annika likes TOS better anyway she wants me to change her name to Uhura but I refuse)

thanks. ;) My inlaws were super mad at me, they thought marriage would slow down my husband's trekki-ness but I think I sped it up lol

My kids are going to their first convention this summer, they are sooo excited, I haven't decided yet if I am going to let them dress up, the 4 year old wants to be a klingon and the 2 year old wants to be romulan so I have to find gluten free glue for their prothesis or make them dress up normal like the rest of us. (normal meaning Star Fleet and non-alien, not normal actually)


That is too cute.
Straughn
31-12-2005, 05:23
Smunkeeville, you are my hero. Say "hi" to your kids.
Don't you mean, "Live long and prosper"?
;)
What about Nagilum for a kid's name?
I know my kid would pretty much earn it.
Megaloria
31-12-2005, 05:24
Monster Garage, to build functional Transformers.
Straughn
31-12-2005, 05:25
Peater Gryphon
You know what? Your spelling helped negate the effects, somewhat. Thanks. I owe you a Triscuit on some occasion.
Salinth
31-12-2005, 05:29
I was never a Star Treck person. Actually not much of a tv person. I would say me being a cartoon character is more probable. Preferably a superhuman character. I could see myself on Avatar, Justice League or Static Shock. If i was on Avatar I would probably end up a water bender.
Molan
31-12-2005, 05:30
I don't know what the hell is wrong with you people, but you forgot the greatest show in history that anyone would star in:

Red Dwarf

Red Dwarf was so awesome, that it's greatness was stuck in public broadcasting for the last 10 years. Not to mention it had Cat.
Anti-Social Darwinism
31-12-2005, 05:53
I hate t.v. You have to turn of your brain in order to enjoy it. You have to turn of your brain and ingore everyone around you. It isolates you. We have no sense of community anymore because we all rush home to watch the idiot box. Sick.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with turning your brain off once in a while, but if you think watching T.V. causes brain atrophy any more frequently than say, posting to forums, you're watching the wrong kind of T.V. And if you think we have no sense of community, why are you on the forums anyway, instead of out communing with your neighbors. T.V. is no more a cause of isolation than spending time on line or reading a book. The problem isn't the media it's people using the media as an excuse for doing what they're going to do anyway.

As to the actual topic: I liked Enterprise. Given the opportunity, I would have loved to have been on the show. I think I could have been a Denobulan female - maybe Phlox's nurse - the show didn't have enough women. Besides, Connor Trinear (Trip Tucker) is hot.
Antikythera
31-12-2005, 06:02
Csi...
Smunkeeville
31-12-2005, 15:05
As to the actual topic: I liked Enterprise. Given the opportunity, I would have loved to have been on the show. I think I could have been a Denobulan female - maybe Phlox's nurse - the show didn't have enough women. Besides, Connor Trinear (Trip Tucker) is hot.
I liked Enterprise okay, when I just watched it as a show and didn't try to compare it to other Star Treks. I didn't like Archer as a captain, or T'pol as a vulcan, or even most of the first 2 seasons, but it was getting better. As far as whether it was "good enough", it just wasn't.

oh and Connor Trinear is super hot. :D
Rhursbourg
31-12-2005, 15:55
Yes Prime Minister - so I can be young clone of Sir Humphrey

the A Team- so I can hire the A-Team to rescue the town form some over acted stereo hells angels types

the Last of the Summer Wine- cos Your set for life
Droskianishk
31-12-2005, 17:44
You know what? Your spelling helped negate the effects, somewhat. Thanks. I owe you a Triscuit on some occasion.



:) Happy to oblige. (and I forgot it would actually be Peatear Gryphon, from the episode where he had to make up a fake name and he made it from seeing a pea, a tear, and a gryphon flying throuh the air.)
Drunk commies deleted
31-12-2005, 17:46
I'd like to be on Deadwood or Family Bonds. Deadwood because the characters and plot are just so cool, Family Bonds because bounty hunting seems like it would be a rush.
Straughn
31-12-2005, 23:30
:) Happy to oblige. (and I forgot it would actually be Peatear Gryphon, from the episode where he had to make up a fake name and he made it from seeing a pea, a tear, and a gryphon flying throuh the air.)
That was a damned funny part. :D
I still think my favourite is the toad-licking episode, when they're up in the bedroom bitching about morality these days ... "The safety word is 'banana."
Homieville
01-01-2006, 00:12
Great question!

I would star in """"Pimp my Ride""""" because I like cars,and making people happy
Pure Metal
01-01-2006, 00:13
i'm sure this has been asked already, but can i star in porno? ;)
Katzistanza
03-01-2006, 06:20
"Perverts Who've Had Weird Sex With Alysson Hannigan".
It isn't going to happen, but this thread is about daydreams, is it not?

::drools::

Allyson Hannigan is in my imginay harem. If I ever found a genie, my wish would be for this harem:

Kari Byron (from Mythbusters)
Allison Hannigan (From various stuff)
Jewel Staite (from Firefly)
Christina Hendrix (also from Firefly)
Angie Everhart (fucking HOT!)
Nicole Kidman (spacifically from Mulan Rouge)
Britney Murphy
Angelina Jolie

3 of my girls are Joss Weadon girls......he sure can pick 'em :)

I have the hugest crush on Jewel Staite (Kaylee from Firefly)
German Nightmare
04-01-2006, 01:27
Don't you mean, "Live long and prosper"?
;)
(...)
Apparently, only to one! http://sportsforum.ws/images/smilies/new2/vulcan.gif The other one would have to go with a shouted "Qapla'!" and a headbutt... Well, maybe a whispered "Qapla'" and a hug, that is! http://sportsforum.ws/images/smilies/new2/klingon.gif
DrunkenDove
04-01-2006, 01:48
CSI Miami because it is cool :cool:

It's terrible. Horatio alway decides who is guilty, and then finds the evidence. And gets into hundreds of gunfights. He has nothing on Grisham.

Most of the episodes have plot holes that make my head spin. Rubbish.
DrunkenDove
04-01-2006, 02:16
You are absolutely right! You have seen her video, right?

It's fake. A look-a-like pretends to be her, but has none of her tattoos.

(Which might be an interesting excuse if your parents won't let you get one. "Daddy, If I don't have them you won't be able to tell that the porn actress isn't me")
Katzistanza
04-01-2006, 05:04
It's fake. A look-a-like pretends to be her, but has none of her tattoos.

You have killed my dreams :(
Muffalopadus
04-01-2006, 05:21
Invader Zim. Period.

Well, not star in, but I would like to BE in an episode. That would be a lot of fun.
Bobs Own Pipe
04-01-2006, 05:22
I want to star in the O'Reilly Factor. See, if I was Bill O'Reilly, I'd launch into a rant about how Fox News are the official fartcatchers for the Bush administration, how unprofessional and phoney I was, and how most of the products being flogged on my program were just so much worthless, overpriced crapola. I'd pillory my fellow Fox News mouthpieces, decry Consumerism, strip off all my clothes, leap up onto my desktop turn my naked ass to the camera, and take a great big ol' dump live on national television.

And I'll lay 10-1 odds they'd have me back afterwards.
Nalaynia
04-01-2006, 05:41
SNL, I'm into doing impressions and stuff so I think I could actually pull it off...with some training.

Also, Arrested Development, smartest comedy out there.
Wolfholme
04-01-2006, 05:59
It would have to be Firefly. Why? Because there's no better show in the gorram 'Verse.
Culaypene
04-01-2006, 06:28
No thought needed for that one.

The L Word. Without a doubt!
Straughn
04-01-2006, 07:17
Apparently, only to one! http://sportsforum.ws/images/smilies/new2/vulcan.gif The other one would have to go with a shouted "Qapla'!" and a headbutt... Well, maybe a whispered "Qapla'" and a hug, that is! http://sportsforum.ws/images/smilies/new2/klingon.gif
Guess what? I gots The Klingon Dictionary.
You can toss me a query and i might be able to translate.
For those who don't know, Qapla'! means "success" or loosely, "victory".
There might be an online - i don't know.
I still think it's very f*cking cool that Klingon now meets all the requirements of a legit language, and can be taught as such in college/pre-college language classes.
Straughn
04-01-2006, 07:26
I want to star in the O'Reilly Factor. See, if I was Bill O'Reilly, I'd launch into a rant about how Fox News are the official fartcatchers for the Bush administration, how unprofessional and phoney I was, and how most of the products being flogged on my program were just so much worthless, overpriced crapola. I'd pillory my fellow Fox News mouthpieces, decry Consumerism, strip off all my clothes, leap up onto my desktop turn my naked ass to the camera, and take a great big ol' dump live on national television.

And I'll lay 10-1 odds they'd have me back afterwards.
As if your nation title wasn't enough to do it, this post BY FAR garnered a one-nation fan club without any real debate.
You f*cking ROCK!
*bows*
Straughn
04-01-2006, 07:40
::drools::

Allyson Hannigan is in my imginay harem. If I ever found a genie, my wish would be for this harem:

Kari Byron (from Mythbusters)
Allison Hannigan (From various stuff)
Jewel Staite (from Firefly)
Christina Hendrix (also from Firefly)
Angie Everhart (fucking HOT!)
Nicole Kidman (spacifically from Mulan Rouge)
Britney Murphy
Angelina Jolie

3 of my girls are Joss Weadon girls......he sure can pick 'em :)

I have the hugest crush on Jewel Staite (Kaylee from Firefly)
Guess what? *smiles shyly*
...you just made a friend... *bows*


Guess what else? I've got a friend who i, on occasion get to touch, who looks almost EXACTLY like Kari, but younger and even hotter. *grrrowwl*

Also, there was a special on Lifetime that had Jewel AND the chick from Species in the same shot together. *drool*

Christina ... mmm, doesn't Wash get to say the rightest things about her? *ah yeah*

Jewel ... that was a good episode showing how Mal picked her up for the mech. Awesome.

Brittany Murphy .... mmmm. She had a good photo spread in FHM or something like that. Tangy. She interviews well too.

I've said enough, i think.
German Nightmare
04-01-2006, 19:00
Guess what? I gots The Klingon Dictionary.
You can toss me a query and i might be able to translate.
For those who don't know, Qapla'! means "success" or loosely, "victory".
There might be an online - i don't know.
I still think it's very f*cking cool that Klingon now meets all the requirements of a legit language, and can be taught as such in college/pre-college language classes.
Yeah, I've got something to translate for me, please:

"Kill your enemies fast and without mercy!"

And there are online-dictionaries, but they lack the grammar and flexions and lotsa lotsa words, so meh.

I would so love to have tlhIngan Hol at university. You know, read Shakespeare in its original form... :D
Briantonnia
04-01-2006, 19:19
My God, I've created a monster.... and it seems to like Star Trek and have weird sexual urges for Alyison Hannigan... the insanity!
German Nightmare
04-01-2006, 20:10
My God, I've created a monster.... and it seems to like Star Trek and have weird sexual urges for Alyison Hannigan... the insanity!
Oooh yeah! But you can call me German Nightmare ;)
Smunkeeville
04-01-2006, 20:14
Guess what? I gots The Klingon Dictionary.
You can toss me a query and i might be able to translate.
For those who don't know, Qapla'! means "success" or loosely, "victory".
There might be an online - i don't know.
I still think it's very f*cking cool that Klingon now meets all the requirements of a legit language, and can be taught as such in college/pre-college language classes.
Cool. My 4 year old is learning Klingon, I didn't think I could count it under our homeschool curriculum, looks like it's now an official elective :D
JuNii
04-01-2006, 20:39
me...
Family Guy.
Charmed
Stargate SG1
Andromeda
Firefly
Katzistanza
05-01-2006, 00:00
nice, I got a bow from Straughn :)
Briantonnia
05-01-2006, 00:06
Oooh yeah! But you can call me German Nightmare ;)


:eek: Christ. now it talks back too! Talk about evolution :p
Maineiacs
05-01-2006, 01:34
Cool. My 4 year old is learning Klingon, I didn't think I could count it under our homeschool curriculum, looks like it's now an official elective :D


OK, now I know you're just making this up. Either that, or I'll have to see if my University has classes in Elvish. :D
Teh_pantless_hero
05-01-2006, 01:37
Elvish > Klingon.

Iron Chef.. as a judge.
That way, I can test all sorts of food from some of the best chefs in the world and be a pretentious asshole about it.
Fair Progress
05-01-2006, 01:52
The Sopranos, it's definitely my favorite show :)
German Nightmare
05-01-2006, 02:48
:eek: Christ. now it talks back too! Talk about evolution :p
Oh yes. Evilution is t3h... well, evil! http://www.scripts4webmaster.de/scripts/gb/smileys/evolution.gif
Muffalopadus
05-01-2006, 03:10
Wow. This tells us a lot about society. Or at least, a part of it.

I still think INVADER ZIM ROOOOOOCKS! No one has said it yet besides me! (I think.)
Maineiacs
05-01-2006, 03:35
Elvish > Klingon.

Iron Chef.. as a judge.
That way, I can test all sorts of food from some of the best chefs in the world and be a pretentious asshole about it.


Elen síla lumenn omentilmo.
Smunkeeville
05-01-2006, 03:41
OK, now I know you're just making this up. Either that, or I'll have to see if my University has classes in Elvish. :D
I probably won't make it an elective, but yes she is learning Klingon, she is a trekkie and wanted to learn it ever since my husband was telling her how they made it up kinda as they went along and got to one of the movies and figured out that they hadn't ever made up "to be" and the Klingon was supposed to be reciting Shakespear, so they had to do a quick rush to figure out what it was. She had assumed up until this point that the Klingons were just speaking gibberish, when she found out it could be translated into English she decided she wanted to learn it.

Is it usless to know Klingon? probably for a regular person, but since she is going to her first convention this year, and wants to dress like a Klingon it would only make sense for her to learn it.
Straughn
05-01-2006, 07:29
Elen síla lumenn omentilmo.
-
OK, now I know you're just making this up. Either that, or I'll have to see if my University has classes in Elvish.

*ahem*

British School Offers Elvish Lessons
Posted by CowboyNeal on Sat Mar 06, '04 12:51 PM
from the tongue-of-the-light-footed dept.
Adair writes "A school in Birmingham, England is offering its students weekly after-hours lessons in Sindarin, a conversational form of Elvish invented by J.R.R. Tolkien and based on Welsh sounds." It won't be long now until the Klingon to Elvish translation books are produced.
--
What i can't believe is one of y'all didn't already hop this site first.
Straughn
05-01-2006, 07:31
nice, I got a bow from Straughn :)
Well, why not?
I think you merited one, indeed. *bows*
Straughn
05-01-2006, 07:36
I probably won't make it an elective, but yes she is learning Klingon, she is a trekkie and wanted to learn it ever since my husband was telling her how they made it up kinda as they went along and got to one of the movies and figured out that they hadn't ever made up "to be" and the Klingon was supposed to be reciting Shakespear, so they had to do a quick rush to figure out what it was. She had assumed up until this point that the Klingons were just speaking gibberish, when she found out it could be translated into English she decided she wanted to learn it.

Is it usless to know Klingon? probably for a regular person, but since she is going to her first convention this year, and wants to dress like a Klingon it would only make sense for her to learn it.
I had the link someplace about who was teaching Klingon in class but i'm currently vexed in that regard.
However, just for you, i'll post this finding....

*ahem*

An Introduction to Vulcan Linguistics
and the Vulcan Languages Traditional & Modern Golic
Ragtaya na'Gen-Lis-Tal Vuhlkansu
eh Gen-Lislar Vuhlkansu Ba- eh Iyi-Golik


...
The first person outside of our group (that we know of by name) who made an effort with the Vulcan language was Katherine D. Wolterink, a frequent contributor to the old Trek magazine and the Best of Trek series of books in the 1980s. In The Best of Trek #10 she presented a Vulcan lexicon. Unfortunately, she insisted on giving it all the articles, pronouns, prepositions, etc., of an Earth language. She twisted the speech from Star Trek: The Motion Picture to fit. Vulcan languages developed independently from Earth, so cannot follow the same pattern and structure we have here. Also, she thought that Saavik and Spock spoke Romulan together in The Wrath of Khan (The Best of Trek #7). First of all, it would be a major offense for Starfleet officers to speak an enemy language on board a Federation starship, unless training for an undercover mission in Romulan space. Also, the structure of the transcribed speech was not dissimilar from previous examples of spoken Vulcan. Later, in a chat session, Marc Okrand, famous for his Klingon work, stated that it was Vulcan and not Romulan, since he was the one who came up with the spoken dialogue for that movie! Again, Vulcan is an alien language and not an Earth language. Mark R. Gardner, the founder of the Vulcan Language Institute, submitted several articles to Trek back then but none were published before the publication disappeared. One of those articles was expanded into this introduction.

The real break in the study of Vulcan languages came with the release of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. In a most wonderful scene, Spock has completed years of the Kolinahr training and is waiting to receive a symbol of total logic for his efforts. We finally are treated to hearing Vulcan spoken in more than single words. Music to the ears for fans of Vulcans! In the next two movies, we are pleased to have additional Vulcan to enjoy. Later television series episodes and the successful line of novels also added words. We almost decided to ignore the novels, since Paramount Pictures has advised that they do not take anything in the early Bantam or current Pocket books as canon in Star Trek chronology or history. Basically, the official line is that all of the novels, unless an "official" novelization of a movie or TV episode, are apocryphal or non-canon. We eventually decided to include some novel words because we felt it was of value in linguistic study. The words are "real" even if the events are considered "fiction" within the Star Trek universe!

Why an interest in Vulcan languages? First of all, our founder has been a fan of the show since it first was on. "Amok Time" was a fascinating episode and started him wondering about other facets of Vulcan life, including their language. To Mark, languages have always held a great fascination. Though not exposed to a second language at home, he began to teach himself French at age 9, German at age 11 and Russian at age 16. He also studied Latin, Greek and Middle English. He was an exchange student to Iceland in high school. He learned a lot of Icelandic (little changed from Old Norse) while he was there. It was only logical that he went into linguistics when he joined the U.S. Navy. He completed a year-long Russian course at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California, with honors. In the Naval Security Group, he was a transcriber and analyst. He was stationed overseas in Turkey and Scotland. In Turkey he learned enough Turkish to get by in simple conversation; in Scotland he spent so much time off base, that he developed a Scottish accent that confused his fellow Americans! After leaving the service, he started to study such things as Old English and American Sign Language. Mark even spent a year inventing a language that had no irregularities and simplified grammar, based loosely on Old Norse and Old English. It is called Garnik. Should he return to college for a post-graduate degree in linguistics, he plans to use this as the basis of his master's thesis. Other past and present members of the Vulcan Language Institute are also fans as well as linguists.

Only after having studied a number of languages and learned a lot about Linguistics, can one be anywhere near being qualified to study an "alien" language. One does not need a doctorate to do this, just be well-read and open-minded. Mark freely admits that he is no expert on all facets of Linguistics and that's where having intelligent and educated colleagues comes into play. A number of people have come and gone in our organization over the years, adding to the project. One of the most important factors when analyzing any language is understanding the people and culture behind the language. In this case, unless you understand the Vulcans, you can't explain their language. Vulcan philosophy and language are tied together somewhat. Logic extends into the language. A linguist studying Vulcan languages, especially those in post-Surak use, must also be something of a philosopher.

Transcription of another language into one's own alphabetic system is not an exact science. Anyone who has tried to convert Chinese, Japanese, Greek, Russian, etc., into the Latin alphabet knows what we mean. It is possible to come close in approximating the sound of the other language, but no system has been found that can represent any and every language. This is true with Vulcan languages. After the first contacts between Earth and Vulcan, a system came into use that was convenient to humans but "embarrassing" to the Vulcans. For example, in English, the letter "Y" can be either a vowel or a consonant, but the corresponding character in Vulcan is only a consonant. To express the "Y" vowel-sound in Vulcan you must use the diphthongal "AI", never "Y". It is most illogical to have two ways to express the same sound. (The Bolsheviks on Earth, after the Communist Revolution, dropped "redundant letters" from the Russian alphabet as unnecessary, for example.) Although a later Federation conference adopted a reformed system for transliterating Vulcan into what had become Federation Standard English, you still often see misspellings such as t'hy'la or ka'athyra. Old habits are hard to break.

Mark didn't really begin to take a serious linguistic interest in Vulcan languages until he saw ST:TMP when it first came out. When the Vulcan Kolinahr Master, T'Sai, opened her mouth and out came Vulcan, he was awestruck! It wasn't until after The Wrath of Khan that Mark began to work with others on a professional analysis of spoken and written Vulcan. He bought the first three movies on the then-superior Beta format and began the arduous task of transcribing the Vulcan spoken in the movies. Since he had done similar stuff in the service, this was old hat. In all, he spent at least 50 hours playing the movie scenes with spoken Vulcan over and over again until he got the phonetic sounds down. Comparing the transcription with facial and lip motions to confirm some vowel and consonant sounds that were harder to hear turned out to be of no use. It turns out that the actors originally spoke in English with exaggerated mouth movements! This was an unexpected surprise. After several years, Mark was finally able to talk to one of the production crew, who informed him that the actors were instructed to exaggerate the way they spoke in order to make it "exotic" sounding. Only later, did the staff dub over the original dialogue with spoken Vulcan for more realism. On one of our pages, you will find a comparison of what was actually said, what was spoken via ADR (ie, voice dubbing), and what the subtitles said. It is very interesting historically, of course, but we will ignore whatever was originally there for our research, because the Vulcan speech and the subtitles are what we consider the "official" version we've based our work on. As far as we know, we are the only group to know of the exact original dialogue, unless someone has a copy of the shooting script!

Anyway, to make sure that he wasn't hearing things, Mark took an audio cassette of the spoken Vulcan to an acquaintance who was fluent in seven languages and worked as a speech therapist with hearing and speech-impaired people. Mark gave him the tape without telling him what it was and asked him to transcribe it. (If Mark had told him it was from Star Trek at the beginning, he probably would have refused.) Mark was very pleased to see that he achieved nearly identical results. They only disagreed on three sounds out of the Kolinahr sequence sentences. Not bad at all! Mark then told him what the sample was and he ran it through a sound analyzer similar to that which is used for voice print comparisons by law enforcement agencies. The last few questionable parts were cleared up when the tape was slowed down and was analyzed sound by sound.

When Mark first began this Vulcan language project, he saw himself putting out a book similar to the first edition of The Klingon Dictionary, Marc Okrand's wonderful book which started the whole Klingon language ball rolling. We also took inspiration from the wonderful Klingon Language Institute, which was formed after we were. We've made a number of attempts over the years at contacting Mr. Okrand and dealing with Pocket Books about this, but eventually gave up the idea after it became obvious there would be no support for anything other than Klingon from the powers that be. Unfortunately, in that online chat session with Marc Okrand many years ago, our founder was unable to get any word in because of all the people on at the time. Amongst our group, we had read every Star Trek novel published up to about 2001 (even the hard-to-find non-Pocket Books ones), as well as watched all the movies, the original series, the animated series, and the newer TV spinoffs. We've taken all Vulcan words we could find in writing or in speech and recreated a complete grammar and dictionary of what Gene Roddenberry called "Old Vulcan" in his novelization of ST:TMP, but which we gave the general name "Golic Vulcan", because "Old Vulcan" is too easy to confuse with the "Ancient Vulcan" root language. "Golic Vulcan" is actually comprised of two very close languages -- Traditional Golic Vulcan (the formal language of Surak and continuing planet-wide language of ceremony) and Modern Golic Vulcan (a less formal and contemporary version of the same language which is used as a regional and clan dialect). It has been a very long project and we are still finding an occasional word here and there. At present there are many thousands of words in the lexicon we have assembled. Hundreds of these words are direct from television, novels or the movies. Unlike others, who use random word generators to make up most new words, we have built up the language from word roots using sound language theory. Only in cases where no obvious roots exist did we create Vulcan-sounding words. In this way we are unique.

An analysis of the language of the movies (Golic Vulcan) proves that it is a compounding language -- small words and roots are combined to make new words. Mark and the early contributors broke the words down to their roots and then built up the additional vocabulary from there. This is an example of linguistic "reverse engineering"! (This is based on a technique similar to that which linguists use to decipher ancient texts from fragments of a language.) Some examples of this compounding are: khaf-spol (literally "blood-pump") which means "heart" and ru'lut-masu (literally "mouth-water") which means "saliva". A number of Earth and other Federation languages also compound like this (or did at an earlier point).

Additionally, our analysis of the Golic Vulcan languages shows they are more phonetically logical in structure than English. There is an alphabetical character for each unique consonant sound and there are five vowels which can combine into diphthongs.
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It goes on but it's up to you .... ;)
Straughn
05-01-2006, 07:39
My God, I've created a monster.... and it seems to like Star Trek and have weird sexual urges for Alyison Hannigan... the insanity!
THIS is an ultimate occasion for,

Qapla!!!!!!
What the heavenhellandinbetween more could you ask?!?!?!?
Straughn
05-01-2006, 07:41
Wow. This tells us a lot about society. Or at least, a part of it.

I still think INVADER ZIM ROOOOOOCKS! No one has said it yet besides me! (I think.)
One other did. :(
A for effort though! (it is a funny show)
Murdoc the Xlll
05-01-2006, 07:43
haha Colodia...its on.
:sniper: sniped:)
Jakobians
05-01-2006, 07:44
id want to be sawyer on LOST cus im a bad ass, and have always wanted to be traped on a tropical island with babes.
Jakobians
05-01-2006, 07:50
I probably won't make it an elective, but yes she is learning Klingon, she is a trekkie and wanted to learn it ever since my husband was telling her how they made it up kinda as they went along and got to one of the movies and figured out that they hadn't ever made up "to be" and the Klingon was supposed to be reciting Shakespear, so they had to do a quick rush to figure out what it was. She had assumed up until this point that the Klingons were just speaking gibberish, when she found out it could be translated into English she decided she wanted to learn it.

Is it usless to know Klingon? probably for a regular person, but since she is going to her first convention this year, and wants to dress like a Klingon it would only make sense for her to learn it.


that poor kid is gonna have NO hope in the real world, are you intentionally raising her to get beat up every day so your not the biggest dork you know.
Straughn
05-01-2006, 07:51
Yeah, I've got something to translate for me, please:

"Kill your enemies fast and without mercy!"

And there are online-dictionaries, but they lack the grammar and flexions and lotsa lotsa words, so meh.

I would so love to have tlhIngan Hol at university. You know, read Shakespeare in its original form... :D
I apologize for not responding sooner. IRL and all .... :rolleyes:

Here's what i gots so far ....
the closest ones that i got WITHOUT translating (useful phrases, p.171)

"Four thousand throats may be cut in one night by a running man.":
qaStaHvlS wa' ram loS SaD Hugh SljlaH qetbogh loD

and
"Surrender or die!"
bljeghbe'chugh vaj blHegh

Your translation may take longer. The Daily Show is coming on, ya know.
I may TG ya.
Narf!
Straughn
05-01-2006, 07:52
that poor kid is gonna have NO hope in the real world, are you intentionally raising her to get beat up every day so your not the biggest dork you know.
Name yer boy Sue.
*nods*
Grainne Ni Malley
05-01-2006, 07:53
The Simpsons. I'd be Nelson's (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Nelson+The+simpsons/v=2/SID=w/l=IVS/SIG=12e01nba7/EXP=1136530327/*-http%3A//animals.cheapest-posters.com/IMAGES/ATA/24818BP.jpg) girlfriend and I'd point and laugh at other people's misfortunes with him.
Straughn
05-01-2006, 07:57
The Simpsons. I'd be Nelson's (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Nelson+The+simpsons/v=2/SID=w/l=IVS/SIG=12e01nba7/EXP=1136530327/*-http%3A//animals.cheapest-posters.com/IMAGES/ATA/24818BP.jpg) girlfriend and I'd point and laugh at other people's misfortunes with him.
Lisa was Nelson's gf in one episode. I think they broke up after second base.