NationStates Jolt Archive

I know this has been done before, but we have many new posters. *claps and welcomes*
What political ideologies/beliefs/pamphlets did you once hold?

For once I'm going to tell you my WHOLE list...

Christian American conservative
Socially authoritarian, economically conservative
Socialist, member of the Socialist Party
Saddam Apologist (not very proud of this one)
Member of the American Green Party
Classical Liberal
Me now. Old Whig so you could say.

I went from conservative to libertarian to socialist over the past 10 years.

Right. --->

More right. --->

Even further right. --->

??? --->

Profit!

I went from conservative to libertarian to socialist over the past 10 years.Welcome to our domain. :D

Me?

It's pretty wierd:

I went from centrist to
centre-right
left
center-left
left again
communist left
moderate left
and now I'm somewhere between communism and moderate left. :confused:

Right. --->

More right. --->

Even further right. --->

??? --->

Profit!
WTF?

Socialist
communist
anti-ideology
communist
libertarian
communist

Currently an Anarcho-capitalist. Call me bi-polar

I'm reasonably sure I've always been a Liberal Leftist Libertarian Communist.

Don't see that changing any time soon.

I made the poll? I feel like I've arrived!

Me now: fiscally responsible, socially libertarian

Me fifteen years ago: fiscal libertarian, social conservative.

Funny what leaving a fundamentalist church can do for your politics, huh.

I'm reasonably sure I've always been a Liberal Leftist Libertarian Communist.

Don't see that changing any time soon.
Come on. Don't be so simple. There has to have been some change?

Well I started as an Anarcho-Communist a couple years ago.

Now I'm just an extreme personal rights, moderate economic liberal.

I am socially liberal except for on abortion, gay rights, privacy rights, affirmative action, school sponsored prayer, capital punishment, gun ownership rights, school vouchers, and welfare. I used to be socially conservative.

I am socially liberal except for on abortion, gay rights, privacy rights, affirmative action, school sponsored prayer, capital punishment, gun ownership rights, school vouchers, and welfare. I used to be socially conservative.You ARE socially conservative.

Come on. Don't be so simple. There has to have been some change?

Well I suppose when I was 3-4 years old I believed my house to be the whole of the world. Does that count?

However, no. Sorry. Ever since the day I realised that there were kids at school with less money than me for lunch, I started taking extra quarters to give to them. That eventually led to me being one of the strongest advocates to Governor George W. Bush concerning free lunch program reforms in the State of Texas.

I've always been the "if you got it, share it" kind of person.

I can't remember a time when I wasn't. I also can't remember a time when I didn't believe that every other living, breathing human being should have the exact same rights and freedoms as I do.

I dunno .... guess I found my niche at an early age and stuck with it.

How many posts does one need to get to be considered a big enough part of the NS community to be mentioned in polls and such? :(

Oooh, tough one. Probably Kanabia.

lol. PM has basically the same beliefs I do :p

I was once a bit more of a marxist, but eh, I realised that he wasn't God and that he wasn't necessarily correct about everything.

I've just drifted further to the left. I"m not a communist, but I'm not really a moderate, either. There really aren't any political parties in the US that fit me.

My views are more or less consistent with Melkor, though often times for different reasons. But regardless, I pretty much agree with his stances on most issues.

I used to be an authoritarian U.S. Republican, then became a moderate liberal Republican, then for a while considered myself a centrist.

Then, after a bit more education and much more research, I am now what you would call a Classic Liberal, and am quite content with this ideology.

Revolutionary communist.

http://www.pcr-rcpcanada.org/en/home.php

At this point in time I am a liberal who hates to be called a Democrat. I am thankful for true conservatives because they help to counterbalance liberal reform happening too frequently. But the most hated group for me is neoconservatives. Unfortunately, they're running my beloved country's two main political parties' agendas right now, along with business interests. So mostly my political views right now look a lot like the bottom of a shotglass:(

I hope you're allowed to vote for yourself because I just did :D

That said, why did you bother to seperate me and Lewrockwellia? Not only are our politics nearly functionally identical, I haven't seen him post here in quite some time, although I suppose I might be looking in the wrong places.

Anyway, to answer your question, I've been an Objectivist my entire life: I just know what to call it now. I've always had something of an instinctive distrust for people who change their minds all the time and flip-flop on every issue under the sun , especially when it comes to ethics. If you find yourself changing your mind about the way the world works every five years, you might want to ask yourself why. I get the impression that a lot of people try a [i]little too hard to be open-minded; and as a result we sometimes end up with rabid Trotskyites-turned-Neocons, like today's Republican party; not to mention the epistemological parasites which have preceded them throughout countless generations.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: great philosophers don't tell you how to think; they tell you what you already know. One should not enter the realm of ethics determined to change their mind at every turn; no consistency can possibly follow from such a state of intellectual chaos. I'm not saying one should be completely abhorrent of new ideas, and I'm not trying to suggest that one should stick to the political beliefs held in one's youth, but there's a logical middle ground here and it's always struck me as a bit ridiculous to reach desperately for identity after identity.

My political orientation, ever since it was coherent, has always been left-of-center; I have drifted leftwards over time, and currently find myself hovering between anarcho-communism (based on my ethical philosophy) and radical democratic socialism, perhaps on syndicalist lines (based on my political philosophy.)

I'm close enough to objectivist, so I think I'll throw in with you guys. My progression:

Christian conservative
Centrist-leaning Republican
Libertarian Capitalist (moderate to liberal socially, classical liberal economically)

My views are more or less consistent with Melkor, though often times for different reasons. But regardless, I pretty much agree with his stances on most issues.

I used to be an authoritarian U.S. Republican, then became a moderate liberal Republican, then for a while considered myself a centrist.

Then, after a bit more education and much more research, I am now what you would call a Classic Liberal, and am quite content with this ideology.

Yeah, that pretty much sums me up nicely ;)

Politically, I tend go grudgingly for the Republicans.

I'm pretty new, so I don't know most of the people on this board. At any rate, I started out being pretty (okay, really) conservative politically, economically, and socially. Today though, I tend toward a moderate position on the first two categories and a somewhat liberal position on the last with the exception of a few specific issues.

I'm about where I always was, although I'm smarter now and realise that really, there are no easy answers and nobody has a solution to everything.

I seem to move more to the left, center left to moderate left, sorry I'm boring

I'm about where I always was, although I'm smarter now and realise that really, there are no easy answers and nobody has a solution to everything.

Don't be stupid. There's me. :D

I used to be a crazy socialist. Now I'm a less crazy socialist >.>

I don't think anyone on the list has beliefs close to mine. But anyway my beliefs developed like this

Social & Fiscal Authoritarian Conservative
Social & Fiscal Libertarian Conservative
Libertarian boardering on Anarcho-capitalist
Social Libertarian Fiscal Moderate

To clarify I should say I support welfare for the those most in need, health care ect, but don't support tax payer funding of arts, sports, excessive military spending, basically anything unneccesary. Also the minimum or no government involvement in peoples personal lives. Anything that prohibts free speech. Thats it with out getting too detailed.

By the time I was able to participate in Politics, I was pretty much a Libertarian/Objectivist. So not much has changed.

I was initially a Republican.
Then I went Communist.
Then around 2000 I went back to Republican. Had I been able to vote, I would have voted everyone's least favorite American into office.
Then along came 9/11 and then Iraq. I started drifting back to the left.
Now I call myself a Libertarian.

My views haven't changed a whole lot, although my on-going education has resulted in their modification over time. The only real thing that's been changing is the label.

I wish Drunk Commies was on that list. My opinions line up with his about 95% of the time. So I'm a democratic socialist, who is pro-military interventionism to make the world a better place.

I'm reasonably sure I've always been a Liberal Leftist Libertarian Communist.
Too many words. You're not a communist.

I've always had something of an instinctive distrust for people who change their minds all the time and flip-flop on every issue under the sun , especially when it comes to ethics. If you find yourself changing your mind about the way the world works every five years, you might want to ask yourself why. I get the impression that a lot of people try a [i]little too hard to be open-minded; and as a result we sometimes end up with rabid Trotskyites-turned-Neocons, like today's Republican party
To refuse to change one's political ideas when one knows they are wrong would be to maintain a contradiction. And we all know how how Ayn Rand (and thus, you) feel about contradictions.

Actually, change my vote to Kanabia. My compass is like within .1 of being exactly the same as his; and I too used to be a marxist then got wise. Now I'm making it up as I go along. Woo!

I was a one-nation conservative, then I randomly went to hard-line socialist on entering university. I am now a fluffy, civil rights loving liberal.

I used to be a socialist. Then a communist.

And then I grew a brain.

Then I turned libertarian.

I probably started out as a social/moral liberal, with conservative fiscal tendencies.

I used to believe that capitalism could be made to help everybody, and that business could be left to it's own conscience.

I used to believe that 'western' democracy could work on large groups.

Now, I'm probably an extremist in terms of 'social' permissiveness, with socialistic tendencies.

I believe that one of the few responsibilities a government SHOULD have, is regulating business, and that it should stay out of morality entirely.

I made the poll? I feel like I've arrived!

Me now: fiscally responsible, socially libertarian
Me fifteen years ago: fiscal libertarian, social conservative.
Funny what leaving a fundamentalist church can do for your politics, huh.

hahaha.... very true. loosening the thought restraints that come with (any) religion will do wonders for opening your mind.

I'm a whatever sounds like the best thing at the time-ian

To refuse to change one's political ideas when one knows they are wrong would be to maintain a contradiction. And we all know how how Ayn Rand (and thus, you) feel about contradictions.
Dude, did you even read the rest of my post?

I'm whatever the fuck I feel like, though I'll just say I'm close to Melkor/Vetalia for the hell of it.

Centrist Democrat
Centrist liberal
Flaming liberal
Libertarian or something around there, I guess

No, I've not taken an economics course or a political science course. No, I've not researched my ideologies - don't really care, something I can look into later. The "love-everyone-equality-tolerance" stuff doesn't fit me, and neither does the "Jesus Christ Superstar" so I'll just stick to individualist libertarianism.

From "Hail Bush! I hope he wins the election!" in 2000

to

"Shit shit shit, Bush is winning the elections!" in 2004.

Mind you, I was 10 in 2000.

From "Hail Bush! I hope he wins the election!" in 2000

to

"Shit shit shit, Bush is winning the elections!" in 2004.

Mind you, I was 10 in 2000.

Pfft, what a retard!

From "Hail Bush! I hope he wins the election!" in 2000

to

"Shit shit shit, Bush is winning the elections!" in 2004.

Mind you, I was 10 in 2000.

Wow, I was just the same way.

Socialist
communist
anti-ideology
communist
libertarian
communist

Currently an Anarcho-capitalist. Call me bi-polar

Interesting. I took a differant route, but was the same until recently-
Centrist
Center Right
Right
Libertarian
Classic Liberal
Anarcho-Capitalist
Minarchist

Once a liberal pacifist green reformist- whatever anyone becomes when they first get interested in socialism basically. Once I looked into it a bit more I found Trotskyism to be more appealing

i don't know if i should vote for myself or not :confused:
though i am honoured to be in the poll :D

not that i see what the poll has to do with the OP question... which i will now answer:

raised left
went sorta facist and weird when i was about 14
realised what a load of toss the right wing is and swung back left
then went socialist
and then more left
then communist
now some crazy self-styled mix of anarchism, communism, communitariansim, technocracy, direct democracy, regressionsim and a bunch of other shit... hmm when i put it that way, nobody is gonna vote for me :p

(though i ought to make it clear that those are my ideal politics and on a day-to-day basis, i'm just a plain old socialist :))



be interesting to see what other people think my beliefs are (other than insane)

lol. PM has basically the same beliefs I do :p

i know! but i've got more votes than you right now... lmao! :p

Right. --->
More right. --->
Even further right. --->
??? --->
Profit!

WTF?

He is refering to the moneymaking scheme of the Underpants Gnomes on South Park. They are responsible for all missing underwear because they travel around at night and steal them, mistakingly believing that it will make them rich. Their business model goes like this:
Step 1: Collect underpants
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit

As to the question of the thread, I have been:
Republican
Fascist (but not a neo-Nazi)
Anarchist
and now Libertarian