NationStates Jolt Archive

It can be any size city town or village. I amNOT putting a poll with this because then people don't post, and because there are just too many cities in our world.

Also, I say detroit because it has the highest crime rate in the world, and is heavily polluted.

From my own experience, Munich.

And Bamberg, my home town.

Preston

Oakland. It just is.

Detroit was cool "back in the day". Now it just sucks.

There are worse cities, though. Mexico City, anyone?

Detroit was cool "back in the day". Now it just sucks.

There are worse cities, though. Mexico City, anyone?
Sure Mexico city has even higher pollution, but detroit also has the highest crime rate in the world.

Elmira Heights, New York-Still in the Stone Age

Sure Mexico city has even higher pollution, but detroit also has the highest crime rate in the world.

Hm. I always though Mexico City had the highest crime rate. I know that Detroit's got the worst crime in the States.

I think Camden, NJ has the highest crime rate in the US now.

Funny....

You all agree that the crappiest city HAS to be somewhere in the US?

:D

BIRMINGHAM, England, UK

Pyongyang, NK - I mean, who in their right mind would want to live *there?*

Pyongyang, NK - I mean, who in their right mind would want to live *there?*

I think we've got a winner.

Porto, in Portugal is the crappiest city...why? Wel a few days ago I went there and a spaceship landed in a garbage can, and the police didn't DO ANITHING, what kind of city let's people land spaceships in dumpsters?!

Besides that any U.S. city is worse (no offence)

Funny....

You all agree that the crappiest city HAS to be somewhere in the US?

:D
Just speaking from experience. I havn't been to too many cities ouside the US, and if you're a tourist, you AVOID the worst cities overseas. Is anyone making vacation plans for Baghdad or Falluja?

Porto, in Portugal is the crappiest city...why? Wel a few days ago I went there and a spaceship landed in a garbage can, and the police didn't DO ANITHING, what kind of city let's people land spaceships in dumpsters?!

Besides that any U.S. city is worse (no offence)
You must be joking about this spaceship thing.

Besides that any U.S. city is worse (no offence)

Oh come on.

BIRMINGHAM, England, UK
At least it's not London.

Oh come on, you all know Hell, Norway is. Why? D'uh!

At least it's not London.
London is okay really

London is okay really
some places on the outskirts aren't so bad, like Watford, i love Watford but central London isn't so great

some places on the outskirts aren't so bad, like Watford, i love Watford but central London isn't so great
sight seeing parts are ok

sight seeing parts are ok
but it's all so scary and full of tourists

Every time I go to London the damned taxi drivers mount the kerb and almost hit me.

Ballymena, Northern Ireland.

From their official website:

News...

No Current News

Events...

No Current Events

And a look at the history section:

1950’s Ballymena Castle was demolished.
1973AD The Urban and Rural District Councils were merged to create the present Borough Council.
1989AD Closure of the Fairhill Market.
1994AD Closure of the Waveney Hospital.
1998AD Closure of the Braidwater Mill.

Oh man, that's sad, but it's so funny!

but it's all so scary and full of tourists
is now after terroist acts

I think the short list of ones I've been to are Hull and stoke, both in the UK, I have the shame of actually living in the latter one...

I think the short list of ones I've been to are Hull and stoke, both in the UK, I have the shame of actually living in the latter one...
Stoke on Trent is okay tad run down but it has nice people

Mogadishu.

Stoke on Trent is okay tad run down but it has nice people

a tad is an understatement, and if you happen to live near a council estate like trent vale or bentilee, the people ain't all that nice.

a tad is an understatement, and if you happen to live near a council estate like trent vale or bentilee, the people ain't all that nice.
Well it was okay in 91 to 94 I was at the Uni

Mogadishu, Somalia.
Monrovia, Liberia.
Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Detroit may have a lot of crime, but at least it doesn't have warfare.

Oh come on, you all know Hell, Norway is. Why? D'uh!
You can't say a town is crappy just because of its name.

Mogadishu, Somalia.
Monrovia, Liberia.
Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Detroit may have a lot of crime, but at least it doesn't have warfare.
Where have you been all yyour life? The Yugoslav Wars are over forr christ-sakes.

I'd have to either say Mexico City or Pyonyang.

Well it was okay in 91 to 94 I was at the Uni

It's gone downhill since then, I was only a toddler then but I remember it used to be a lot nicer back in them days, nowadays it's just a craphole basically, theres a lot of crime and a lot of drugs and a little bit of prostitution, and the council keep spending all the money on crap like lights to make the council offices look better. It's one of the poorest areas in the UK and it shows, it really does, all the industry has moved to China and the buildings are in disrepair. It's not a nice place to be really.

I do have to give it to the council, they are trying to make it nicer it's just they squander the money away on pointless things like lights, but they are trying, just somewhat unsuccessfully.

Literally?

New Orleans, LA. Most of its normal population aren't there right now, because of well- known circumstances. And it is literally full of ... well, you know....
Easily wins the 'most polluted in the world' right now.

Ballymena, Northern Ireland sounds like a quiet place. Mayhap too quiet, but, shrug. Not the worst city by any stretch.

It's gone downhill since then, I was only a toddler then but I remember it used to be a lot nicer back in them days, nowadays it's just a craphole basically, theres a lot of crime and a lot of drugs and a little bit of prostitution, and the council keep spending all the money on crap like lights to make the council offices look better. It's one of the poorest areas in the UK and it shows, it really does, all the industry has moved to China and the buildings are in disrepair. It's not a nice place to be really.

I do have to give it to the council, they are trying to make it nicer it's just they squander the money away on pointless things like lights, but they are trying, just somewhat unsuccessfully.

yes had potential of being a craphole

Hm. I always though Mexico City had the highest crime rate. I know that Detroit's got the worst crime in the States.
Highest crime rate in the US?

Apparently it is Tucson Arizona.

http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime3.aspx

Detroit is about half way down the list.

Where have you been all yyour life? The Yugoslav Wars are over forr christ-sakes.

Sarajevo must be a jolly good place to live, then. Much better than Detroit, I'm sure. Idiot.

Herne, Chemnitz and Frankfurt an der Oder!

yes had potential of being a craphole
every place has that potential.

Every time I go to London the damned taxi drivers mount the kerb and almost hit me.
Have you not heard? There's a local law in force in London, where the taxi drivers are actually allowed to do whatever the hell they like with their vehicles. At least, I assume there is from the way they act...
Crap city/towns? Hell...sorry, Hull. Luton (you want soul-destroying? You got Luton). Chelmsford. Basildon. Romford. Sarfend-on-Sea. Coventry. Leeds. Kosice (Slovakia). Sofia (Bulgaria).

every place has that potential.
true look at Coventry

Nyc

dallas sucks, because they have the cowboys who also suck.

Sarajevo must be a jolly good place to live, then. Much better than Detroit, I'm sure. Idiot.
No, Sarajevo is still a ****hole, but the yugoslav wars are over.

WOw, no one has picked a Canadian city yet?

Fine, I'll break the ice.

Ottawa (the national capital, for those who don't know) is the crappiest city ever. It is filled to the brim with egotistical, corrupt, over paid politicians who don't do anything except make empty promises. Then, there are the people, who are disgustingly narrow minded, and think that they actually have a good hockey team. These people also bitch when it isn't cold enough or when they only have a couple of inches of snow, and that snow melts before freakin' June.

I mean, geez... the O-Train? That is extremely gay, and on top of that, this stupid train go nowhere. The buses only come every 15 minutes during rush hour, and, on the weekend? The bus routes are far too loopy. THe buses ALL go along side streets, and it makes transit extremely inefficiant. I mean, whatever happened to walking to the closest bus stop at a main street? It was faster to bike/walk, but you can't do that in the winter because it's too damn cold out.

And as for weather, it is one of the coldest national capitals in the world. And yet, when it gets into the deep negative 20s and mild negative 30s, school isn't cancelled; we don't even get a snow day when there are snow squalls... they never closed school for anything, well, I take that back. They only closed school for the Ice Storm of 98 and for the teacher's strike.

There are too many Lebanese take out places there and not enough Japanese/Chinese ones, which really sucks...

That 'vinyl' siding revolution hasn't died yet. You know, that tacky house siding that you normally see in trailer parks? Yeah, that crappy building material is on middle class homes because the construction teams are too cheap to use good material.

There are almost no good bars there and everything, except the bars and restaurants close way too early.

Want more?

No, Sarajevo is still a ****hole, but the yugoslav wars are over.
yes did you see the tunnel they found?

yes did you see the tunnel they found?
what tunnel?

WOw, no one has picked a Canadian city yet?

Fine, I'll break the ice.

Ottawa (the national capital, for those who don't know) is the crappiest city ever. It is filled to the brim with egotistical, corrupt, over paid politicians who don't do anything except make empty promises. Then, there are the people, who are disgustingly narrow minded, and think that they actually have a good hockey team. These people also bitch when it isn't cold enough or when they only have a couple of inches of snow, and that snow melts before freakin' June.

I mean, geez... the O-Train? That is extremely gay, and on top of that, this stupid train go nowhere. The buses only come every 15 minutes during rush hour, and, on the weekend? The bus routes are far too loopy. THe buses ALL go along side streets, and it makes transit extremely inefficiant. I mean, whatever happened to walking to the closest bus stop at a main street? It was faster to bike/walk, but you can't do that in the winter because it's too damn cold out.

And as for weather, it is one of the coldest national capitals in the world. And yet, when it gets into the deep negative 20s and mild negative 30s, school isn't cancelled; we don't even get a snow day when there are snow squalls... they never closed school for anything, well, I take that back. They only closed school for the Ice Storm of 98 and for the teacher's strike.

There are too many Lebanese take out places there and not enough Japanese/Chinese ones, which really sucks...

That 'vinyl' siding revolution hasn't died yet. You know, that tacky house siding that you normally see in trailer parks? Yeah, that crappy building material is on middle class homes because the construction teams are too cheap to use good material.

There are almost no good bars there and everything, except the bars and restaurants close way too early.

Want more?
Sounds creepy.

Anybody thought of Manchester? Oh and there's Folkestone as well. That's where the Channel Tunnel is if anybody didn't know.

Drogheda, Ireland.

Too many villages and town in Switzerland to name...

Anybody thought of Manchester? Oh and there's Folkestone as well. That's where the Channel Tunnel is if anybody didn't know.

Having lived in Manchester for most of my life, I'd say it's comparably better than such shitholes as, say, Blackpool.

I hate Blackpool.

Also, I say detroit because it has the highest crime rate in the world, and is heavily polluted.


You obviously dont live there.

I live near it, and theres all kinds of good things about Detroit.
Theres simply some parts of it, you dont go to.

Sounds creepy.
lol

Drogheda, Ireland.


Thats why Cromwell burnt it to the ground.

Sarajevo must be a jolly good place to live, then. Much better than Detroit, I'm sure. Idiot.
Sarajevo really isn't that bad these days actually, it's almost entirely reconstructed, very few war scars remain in the city.

As for own my nomination of the crappiest city... hmm, I really am not sure. I have never been anywhere that I thought was truly awful..

Camden New Jersey, highest homicide rate, it's a dump, dealers everywhere

gotta be Glasgow...

Rome!

Dirty, smelly, cramped, full of small, dank alleys. The Underground is horrendously humid and disgusting. The Central station 'Termini' is a hell-hole full of sleazy guys who attempt to assault any females in your group and about half the people there are just waiting to rob someone.

And there are actually street urchins! What's that about? It's supposed to be the capital of the one of the 4 major powers of Europe! A G8 country!

Impressive sites right enough.

gotta be Glasgow...

No. Why?

Not really a city. But a town.


Birkenhead, England.

Glasgow's alright if you stay in the right areas....although I can't imagine what it has for tourists.

Washington DC. Ward 5 and Ward 8 have higher infant mortality than North Korea.

Crappiest City? It can be any size city town or village.
Macon, Georgia, USA comes close, but for claustraphobia I have to nominate Hong Kong. The sheer number of people crammed into that place gives me the wilies! [ shudders ]

Literally?

New Orleans, LA. Most of its normal population aren't there right now, because of well- known circumstances. And it is literally full of ... well, you know....
Easily wins the 'most polluted in the world' right now.

Ballymena, Northern Ireland sounds like a quiet place. Mayhap too quiet, but, shrug. Not the worst city by any stretch.
If you mean modern city than New Orleans might currently be the least cleanly. But if we are talking about anywhere, there are hundreds of cities/towns where people use a river as their sewer system and as the source for their drinking water. At least they have clean water down in New Orleans.

Any city over a million people.

...there's just not enough oxygen for all those folks.

No. Why?
I live here... in the Southside (Govan Hill if you've heard of it) its full of poverty and Junkies

I nominate Swindon in Wiltshire. The place IS shit.

Macon, Georgia, USA comes close, but for claustraphobia I have to nominate Hong Kong. The sheer number of people crammed into that place gives me the wilies! [ shudders ]

How about Singapore?

How about Singapore?
Never been there, but from what I've heard and read, it's similar. Probably still give me the willies. I think I have borderline megalphobia. :eek:

I nominate Swindon in Wiltshire. The place IS shit.

Couldn't agree more.

Rome!

Dirty, smelly, cramped, full of small, dank alleys. The Underground is horrendously humid and disgusting. The Central station 'Termini' is a hell-hole full of sleazy guys who attempt to assault any females in your group and about half the people there are just waiting to rob someone.

And there are actually street urchins! What's that about? It's supposed to be the capital of the one of the 4 major powers of Europe! A G8 country!

Impressive sites right enough.

I agree. Out of all the cities I've been too (not many, lol) Rome was the worst. I just wanted to wash my hands all the time (sadly I was out of hand sanitizer). And yeah, the men there were too friendly. At least in Venice they talked to you before they groped you, lol. :(

Also, I say detroit because it has the highest crime rate in the world, and is heavily polluted.

It's ignorant stereotypes like this that make it hard for Detroit to recover. Detroit is like any other big city in the Rustbelt. Certainly no better, but not much worse, if at all.

The worst first world city I've ever been to has to be St. Louis, Missouri. I'll drive around in downtown Detroit in a Klan uniform before I'll drive around in certain parts of St. Louis. Which is a shame, because it apparently used to be a nice town.

WOw, no one has picked a Canadian city yet?

Fine, I'll break the ice.

Ottawa (the national capital, for those who don't know) is the crappiest city ever. It is filled to the brim with egotistical, corrupt, over paid politicians who don't do anything except make empty promises. Then, there are the people, who are disgustingly narrow minded, and think that they actually have a good hockey team. These people also bitch when it isn't cold enough or when they only have a couple of inches of snow, and that snow melts before freakin' June.

I mean, geez... the O-Train? That is extremely gay, and on top of that, this stupid train go nowhere. The buses only come every 15 minutes during rush hour, and, on the weekend? The bus routes are far too loopy. THe buses ALL go along side streets, and it makes transit extremely inefficiant. I mean, whatever happened to walking to the closest bus stop at a main street? It was faster to bike/walk, but you can't do that in the winter because it's too damn cold out.

And as for weather, it is one of the coldest national capitals in the world. And yet, when it gets into the deep negative 20s and mild negative 30s, school isn't cancelled; we don't even get a snow day when there are snow squalls... they never closed school for anything, well, I take that back. They only closed school for the Ice Storm of 98 and for the teacher's strike.

There are too many Lebanese take out places there and not enough Japanese/Chinese ones, which really sucks...

That 'vinyl' siding revolution hasn't died yet. You know, that tacky house siding that you normally see in trailer parks? Yeah, that crappy building material is on middle class homes because the construction teams are too cheap to use good material.

There are almost no good bars there and everything, except the bars and restaurants close way too early.

Want more?


They THINK they have a good hockey team? They KNOW they have a good hockey team. The Sens have the best record in the NHL this season.

As for the snow day thing...I walk to school in -40 weather. I live about 2 miles from my school (I live in northern Ontario). We've never had a snow day, and the school has never even considered one. I must say, this winter has been pretty good to us in terms of cold weather. Last year it was so cold that my shoes froze, and the back heel part of my shoe was so hard it dug into my heel and after time I was bleeding through my sock.

Other than that, I can't really comment on your post ;) I hear the universities are nice! :P

Macon, Georgia, USA comes close, but for claustraphobia I have to nominate Hong Kong. The sheer number of people crammed into that place gives me the wilies! [ shudders ]

Hong Kong's pretty cramped, but there's a shitload of stuff to do there. That place has everything, even if it's all packed into 200 square miles.

Heh... I live in Detroit. I'm looking out of a 5th story loft apartment window now at the city--a nice blanket of snow. My girlfriend and I are doing just fine here. We have running water, cable TV, wireless internet, 8 parakeets, and as long as you don't do anything completely foolish you're going to be ok.

Do I want to leave here? Yes... mostly out of boredom. The city is divided between itself and the suburbs, where most of the 'things-to-do' have moved out into the suburbs-- but many of the suburban alternatives are just tacky.

Do any of these things make Detroit the worst city in the world? I would give that a far no. Anyone that lives here on average is probably still better off than the average citizen of earth and to suggest otherwise is just drama--and watching too much 'news'.

As far as worst city in the world, I'm going to *guess* it's probably not in the US and most of us probably wouldn't recognize the name of the city itself. How are the Maldives or Indonesia holding up after the tsunami? How long ago was the genocide in Rwanda? Who wants to be a police officer in Baghdad?

Detroit? I can drive a half-block and fill my grocery cart with fresh produce and anything else my heart desires in abundance. There are poor people here too, but when they go to the store they are still going to get good fresh food that is far better than most of the world can brag about.

Highest crime rate in the US?

Apparently it is Tucson Arizona.

http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime3.aspx

Detroit is about half way down the list.


Sheesh, where do you get this stuff? It is MUCH safer here than in NYC, Detriot, Chicago, or DC.
Worst cities would be Bagdad, Beiruit, or Pyonyag. IMHO.

Thats why Cromwell burnt it to the ground.

Maybe somebody should try that again...

Hong Kong's pretty cramped, but there's a shitload of stuff to do there. That place has everything, even if it's all packed into 200 square miles.
True. I think they've torn it down now or something, but there was this massive warf with hundreds of shops containing duty-free products from all over the world ( forget the name just now ). I could have spent several days in there and still not have seen everything.

Preston
YOU BIT...

Oh, hang on. Yeah, it is really shit, isn't it.

*goes back to Manchester*

EDIT: Ah, but Preston does have something the rest of Europe doesn't - the biggest bus station in Europe!!!!!
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/8911/112.jpg
And that's only one side of it...Please, any terrorists out there - practice on this. Please.

Detroit has Robocop. It can't be all that bad right?

Detroit has Robocop. It can't be all that bad right?

Except Robocop was filmed in parts of Dallas and Houston.

I live here... in the Southside (Govan Hill if you've heard of it) its full of poverty and Junkies

Yes...Govan generally isn't good. But that's not necessarily representative of the whole city. Although, admittedly this time last year I had vowed to emigrate because of the drunken idiots wandering around and assaulting people at George Square at the New Year. It can be a pretty bad city, and there's certainly loads of better cities, but it's not the worst. Probably

True. I think they've torn it down now or something, but there was this massive warf with hundreds of shops containing duty-free products from all over the world ( forget the name just now ). I could have spent several days in there and still not have seen everything.

It was an entire city, actually. It was a total of four square miles (I think), and it had about 70,000 people. It was demolished back in 2002, I think.

I'm really fuzzy on this, though. The last time I read about it was back in 2004.

Sheesh, where do you get this stuff? It is MUCH safer here than in NYC, Detriot, Chicago, or DC.
Worst cities would be Bagdad, Beiruit, or Pyonyag. IMHO.
Having grown up in Brooklyn, NY, spent 9 months in the first Gulf War in the Iraq area, and have made numerous visits to both Hong Kong and Singapore (as well as numerous other cities around the world), I would have to say the WORST cities I've been to would have to be Jakarta, Indonesia and Kabul, Afghanistan. Both were overcrowded with absolutely NOTHING to offer themselves or the rest of the world!

Schwamie

I agree. Out of all the cities I've been too (not many, lol) Rome was the worst. I just wanted to wash my hands all the time (sadly I was out of hand sanitizer). And yeah, the men there were too friendly. At least in Venice they talked to you before they groped you, lol. :(

yes, I certainly wouldn't liked to have been a girl in Rome. The groping, sleazy, bag-snatching guys and the rose sellers at the Trevi Fountain were horrible! I virtually had to body-check them away from my friend any time we walked through the place. Nightmare.

Except Robocop was filmed in parts of Dallas and Houston.

(Oh I see, someone always has to find the loophole)

Seriously though, while I haven't been to Detroit, I think it probably has an unjust reputation, at least parts of it. Movies like Robocop show Detroit as a bleak and hoplessly crime ridden city and that probably has an effect on the general viewpoint of the city. Every city has crime, and every city has it's shoddy areas.

In my opinion, the worst city in the U.S. would be St. Louis, but that's only because everyone I know who have been there have said it is a city where you don't feel safe anywhere. The worst city in the world would probably be Kabul because there's nothing to do and it is supposeed to be poor, but I don't have the right to really say it's the worst because I've never been there.

Having lived in Manchester for most of my life, I'd say it's comparably better than such shitholes as, say, Blackpool.

I hate Blackpool.
well Blackpool hates you! and it isn't that much of a shithole

Yes...Govan generally isn't good.
no... Govan Hill is not in Govan... its round near... er... well its actually bigger than Govan and much worse

I'd go with Detroit for reasons previously mentioned in the thread. I'd also go with Springfield. That place is totally abandoned and desolate. Other than the state capital, there is nothing there.

well Blackpool hates you! and it isn't that much of a shithole
That's only because they put Valium in the water supply. As well as, you know, human and animal faeces.

Crappiest city? Either Lagos, Johannesberg, Mogadishu, Bogota, or Baghdad.

A little town in southern Ontario named 'Woodstock'. Its mostly industrial zones. It has a railway, a convience store, and a police station. One of the worst places I've ever lived. Horribly dirty, every one's always in a bad mood. Very low income average.

That's only because they put Valium in the water supply. As well as, you know, human and animal faeces.
stop being mean about Blackpool, maybe i've been kinda sheltered having only lived in nice areas like Poulton and Lytham and St Annes but I've seen the dodgier parts and they ain't that bad and there's only like 1 little area that i can think of that's a bit dodgy, it's nowhere near as bad as Preston and there's more to do in Blackpool http://67.18.37.16/html/emoticons/sleep.gif

stop being mean about Blackpool, maybe i've been kinda sheltered having only lived in nice areas like Poulton and Lytham and St Annes but I've seen the dodgier parts and they ain't that bad and there's only like 1 little area that i can think of that's a bit dodgy, it's nowhere near as bad as Preston and there's more to do in Blackpool http://67.18.37.16/html/emoticons/sleep.gif
Yeah, in Blackpool the muggers cut you up and put you in bins! Preston, they just cut you a little. :(

Also, I say detroit because it has the highest crime rate in the world, and is heavily polluted.
Camden is actually the most dangerous city in the US...2 years running now. Detroit is a mere #2.

Yeah, in Blackpool the muggers cut you up and put you in bins! Preston, they just cut you a little. :(
I've never known anyone get mugged in Blackpool, although again, that could just be down to me having a sheltered childhood

Gary, Indiana... No contest.

It's ignorant stereotypes like this that make it hard for Detroit to recover. Detroit is like any other big city in the Rustbelt. Certainly no better, but not much worse, if at all.

The worst first world city I've ever been to has to be St. Louis, Missouri. I'll drive around in downtown Detroit in a Klan uniform before I'll drive around in certain parts of St. Louis. Which is a shame, because it apparently used to be a nice town.

I don't know what you're talking about.... I'm from St. Louis originally.... Yes, like every city, it has its bad parts.... But there are very nice parts of the city.

Detroit is a mere #2.
So Detroit is a bit shitty then.
I've never known anyone get mugged in Blackpool
Don't you live in Lytham? There's your reason - the muggers in Lytham St. Annes are all Octagenarians.

Bradford or Hull. Both shit-holes.

Bovina, Texas

Rome!

Dirty, smelly, cramped, full of small, dank alleys. The Underground is horrendously humid and disgusting. The Central station 'Termini' is a hell-hole full of sleazy guys who attempt to assault any females in your group and about half the people there are just waiting to rob someone.

Most of what they've done there since about the 16th century ought to be evacuated and demolished. And the graffiti is beyond pathetic, just morons' names, unlike (say) the Buenos Aires graffiti that tends to be Situationist. But it's not the worst city I've ever been to. (That's probably Stoke. Nice people, but if the IRA blew Stoke up they'd do about £100m worth of improvement.)

Someone I know who has been to Khartoum says it makes Wolverhampton look like Vienna, so that must have a great chance.

So Detroit is a bit shitty then.

Don't you live in Lytham? There's your reason - the muggers in Lytham St. Annes are all Octagenarians.
i did (i moved away from home for uni) but that doesn't mean i don't ever venture into Blackpool or have friends from Blackpool, the only time i've ever known people have stuff taken from them is when chavs have come into my school and stolen from the locker rooms

I'm surprised no one else mentioned Johannesberg, a.k.a. Rape Capital of the World.

Detroit,Michigan. That place makes Belgrade look like Malibu.

i did (i moved away from home for uni) but that doesn't mean i don't ever venture into Blackpool or have friends from Blackpool, the only time i've ever known people have stuff taken from them is when chavs have come into my school and stolen from the locker rooms
:p

Alright, I'll concede there. I went to a school a good 4 miles from Preston, but the chav density was still large enough that we had 30 locked-up bikes stolen in one 6 week period.

Still, the state of the water is a good 3x better in Preston Dock than at Blackpool beach, and that's saying something; for 9 months of the year, Preston Dock has a thick, foul green carpet of Algae.

Ever a popular choice: Rome!

What about Tiajuana, Mexico. It seems like a pretty disgusting city.

Hull

If you've been there you'll know

:p

Alright, I'll concede there. I went to a school a good 4 miles from Preston, but the chav density was still large enough that we had 30 locked-up bikes stolen in one 6 week period.

Still, the state of the water is a good 3x better in Preston Dock than at Blackpool beach, and that's saying something; for 9 months of the year, Preston Dock has a thick, foul green carpet of Algae.
yeah, try going to a private school 2 minutes walk from one of the chaviest schools in the area, phones, money, school blazers (:confused: ) taken every day and there's a limit to what you can fit in your locker


as for the sea, I'll let you have that, i've managed to avoid it excepot for a couple of times going jet-skiing and that wasn't near the piers where it's really bad

:headbang: It can be any size city town or village. I amNOT putting a poll with this because then people don't post, and because there are just too many cities in our world.

yeah i'd agree, but i'd have to choose either, well probably the most polluted cities, they also have the biggest population and depending maybe a pretty high crime rate.
So there for Mexico City Detriot LA(possibly) and/or here wait...maybe some place in India such as Dehli or Calcutta, the spread of HIV/AIDS you know or the capital of Sudan, torn apart by civil war

yeah, try going to a private school 2 minutes walk from one of the chaviest schools in the area, phones, money, school blazers (:confused: ) taken every day and there's a limit to what you can fit in your locker


as for the sea, I'll let you have that, i've managed to avoid it excepot for a couple of times going jet-skiing and that wasn't near the piers where it's really bad
Did you go to King Ted's then?

And yes, the piers tend to be where the shit collects IIRC.

*shudders*

Did you go to King Ted's then?

And yes, the piers tend to be where the shit collects IIRC.

*shudders*
no, Arnold (the better one http://67.18.37.16/html/emoticons/sleep.gif)

that's cause that's where they pump it in

no, Arnold (the better one http://67.18.37.16/html/emoticons/sleep.gif)
Heh. I think my School may have played Rugby and stuff against yours. I've been there once or twice.

Heh. I think my School may have played Rugby and stuff against yours. I've been there once or twice.
probably did, we were the spoons in bottle green who probably kicked your arse http://67.18.37.16/html/emoticons/sleep.gif

Having lived in Manchester for most of my life, I'd say it's comparably better than such shitholes as, say, Blackpool.

I hate Blackpool.

Lived in Leeds for a bit right up from you. People would always make jokes about Blackpool. I always wondered why until of course we took a trip west to go see for ourselves.:p

probably did, we were the spoons in bottle green who probably kicked your arse http://67.18.37.16/html/emoticons/sleep.gif
Excuse me, but our year group were pretty fucking good at rugby.

I don't know about the year below, though. They were a bunch of retards.I may have sucked a rugby myself, but I knew most of the team really well and they told me all this. I think I went to your school when I was only 8, possibly something to do with my mum being with the Education bit of Preston Council. RUBBISH. :D

Lived in Leeds for a bit right up from you. People would always make jokes about Blackpool. I always wondered why until of course we took a trip west to go see for ourselves.:p
my Grandad and uncle and cousins live in Rothwell (i think that's what it's called)


and I hate you, Blackpool isn't that bad!!

Excuse me, but our year group were pretty fucking good at rugby.

I don't know about the year below, though. They were a bunch of retards.I may have sucked a rugby myself, but I knew most of the team really well and they told me all this. I think I went to your school when I was only 8, possibly something to do with my mum being with the Education bit of Preston Council. RUBBISH. :D
our school kicked arse at rugby every year, mainly cause it's the only sport the boys were allowed to play in winter, I always thought it was weird that we never had a football team

my Grandad and uncle and cousins live in Rothwell (i think that's what it's called)

Ith that where the UFO crathed?

Ith that where the UFO crathed?
no, ith in Yorkshire not the states

our school kicked arse at rugby every year, mainly cause it's the only sport the boys were allowed to play in winter, I always thought it was weird that we never had a football team
Ditto - I didn't play school organised football until 4th year.

Must be something to do with Grammar School Twattishness.

It was an entire city, actually. It was a total of four square miles (I think), and it had about 70,000 people. It was demolished back in 2002, I think.

I'm really fuzzy on this, though. The last time I read about it was back in 2004.
I think they dismantled it, shipped it to Minneapolis/St.Paul and renamed it Mall of America. :D

Auckland i hate the place.

oh, i know this one- it's definetly CLEVELAND!!!!!!! we have the nation's worst schools, our industry is on a sharp decline and the attempts to help it have not worked, we are the nation's poorest city, we are governed by time magazine's pick for worst governer, all of detriot shits on us daily because we get all of the waste since we are downstream from them, crime blows, and the list goes on. i think i can safely say without a doubt that cleveland is the crappiest city in the united states.

oh, i know this one- it's definetly CLEVELAND!!!!!!! we have the nation's worst schools, our industry is on a sharp decline and the attempts to help it have not worked, we are the nation's poorest city, we are governed by time magazine's pick for worst governer, all of detriot shits on us daily because we get all of the waste since we are downstream from them, crime blows, and the list goes on. i think i can safely say without a doubt that cleveland is the crappiest city in the united states.

He may have a point here. Downriver Detroit and all of its industry smells absolutely horrid. I feel for anyone downstream in the great lakes that has to deal with whatever spews out of this city-- they say Lake Erie is this horrible polluted mess, and then they look at Ohio like it's all their fault. Well, almost all of the water that enters Lake Erie comes from Lake Michigan, Lake Superior, and Lake Huron, which is all funneled into the Detroit River and passes our fair city and collects all of our beautiful fragrances...

I'd like to look at it as, every day, The City of Detroit gives The City of Cleveland a Dutch Oven™.

I don't know what you're talking about.... I'm from St. Louis originally.... Yes, like every city, it has its bad parts.... But there are very nice parts of the city.

Sorry, I should have said East St. Louis. Yes, there are really nice parts of St. Louis, but ESL is more than a bit rough.

If you mean modern city than New Orleans might currently be the least cleanly. But if we are talking about anywhere, there are hundreds of cities/towns where people use a river as their sewer system and as the source for their drinking water. At least they have clean water down in New Orleans.

These other towns, (other than N'Awlins) do they also have sky high cancer rates? New Orleans is at the end of cancer alley.

Last I heard, they were still advising that no children or pregnant persons go into the city because it was still so contaminated.

Getting dysentary from unsanitary water supplies is one thing. Getting cancer from the environs. well, I think that trumps.

our school kicked arse at rugby every year, mainly cause it's the only sport the boys were allowed to play in winter, I always thought it was weird that we never had a football team
No Football team Disbelievable!:eek:

No Football team Disbelievable!:eek:
private schools over here tend to focus on rugby in the winter

private schools over here tend to focus on rugby in the winter
That is true.
Football is the sport of gentlemen played by villians
Rugby is the sport of Villians played by gentlemen.
-Except for Tana Umaga, Victor Matfield, (That Big English Lock), Ollie le Roux........

It's not really a city, it's more of a theatrical production.

Detroit is bad, but Flint Michigan is worse. Believe me.

Other than that I'd say the worst city would be Pyongyang.

worse town to live in is Mablethorpe a total shit hole full of the dregs of society or I would Choose Jo'burg or the none tourtisty bits of Durban

Crappiest city I've been to in BC:

Prince George - Air pollution, prostitutes everywhere, crime

Terrace - Air pollution, people not very nice, wierd traffic, crime

Kitimat - Boring, just plain boring.

Highest crime rate in the US?

Apparently it is Tucson Arizona.

http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime3.aspx

Detroit is about half way down the list.
That's the stupidest way to calculate an index that I've ever seen. They just took the totals and added them up. Every category is weighted the same. I don't buy the fact that auto theft counts as much as murder or rape.

San Bernardino, CA, the ever growing slum

Butte, Montana.

They should drop the "e" from the town's name.

*oh no! is starting to have flashbacks of visiting Butte*

Butte, Montana.
They should drop the "e" from the town's name.
*oh no! is starting to have flashbacks of visiting Butte*

It looks like a redneck Mos Eisley...

I think Camden, NJ has the highest crime rate in the US now.

they should flatten camden and start over...what a hell hole.

it does have a very,very high crime rate,hell i was almost killed there about ten years ago(beaten over the head with a cinder block by 4 people(word used generously)and into a coma for 30.00)

i still go thru there everynow and again and i always feel like burning the place to the ground.

drug and gang infested shithole...newark nj aint that much better either.:sniper:

geeze, i guess people dont like detroit much huh?

Port Pirie, South Australia

Dhaka (Dacca), Bangladesh seems pretty crappy, outside of the nations currently engaging in wars. Any African city south of the Mediterranean rim or north of South Africa (perhaps excluding Nairobi).

They THINK they have a good hockey team? They KNOW they have a good hockey team. The Sens have the best record in the NHL this season.

As for the snow day thing...I walk to school in -40 weather. I live about 2 miles from my school (I live in northern Ontario). We've never had a snow day, and the school has never even considered one. I must say, this winter has been pretty good to us in terms of cold weather. Last year it was so cold that my shoes froze, and the back heel part of my shoe was so hard it dug into my heel and after time I was bleeding through my sock.

Other than that, I can't really comment on your post ;) I hear the universities are nice! :P
I say that part about the hockey team because they become oddly silent when the Sens lose a game or two or hit a losing streak. They go from making the headlines to being hidden on page 5 of the sport section between the local poker tournament and women's curling. :p

I walked to school in that weather as well... let's just say, my poor shoes didn't hold up well either. Soaked right through and I had a damn thick heel on those beetle boots of mine.

Carlton is a desolute campus and Ottawa U is a pathetic hellhole... (though I won't say that to my best friend because she'd hurt me severely...).

A little town in southern Ontario named 'Woodstock'. Its mostly industrial zones. It has a railway, a convience store, and a police station. One of the worst places I've ever lived. Horribly dirty, every one's always in a bad mood. Very low income average.
C'mon, give me a break. It's not as bad as Jane and Finch or Rexdale or Riverdale here in Toronto (despite that the rest of the city is light years better than that hellhole known as Ottawa).

Ulaanbataar
Mexico City
dont wanna go to either of those.

geeze, i guess people dont like detroit much huh?

Well, people hear all these nasty things about how Detroit is the cesspool of humanity. Didn't Fallwell or Limbaugh call it "Little Fallujah"? Utter bullshit.

And I agree with a previous poster about how Flint is worse than Detroit.

I haven't had much personal experience with bad cities...but having no idea what I'm talking about hasn't stopped me before has it?

Pyongyang sounds awful. Baghdad is low on the list for now. Camden scares me. I couldn't live in Vegas, it's just too much of a soulless town in my mind but not horrible in respect to cleanliness, services etc., so I wouldn't put it VERY high on the list (this might change when it's legal for me to gamble;) ).

I haven't had much personal experience with bad cities


Damn, I've had the opposite, I haven't had much experience with good cities. I rather liked most European cities I've been to, but most American cities just don't do it for me.

Not even New York? /baitedquestion

East Berlin left a bad impression - but I was very little then, so I can't say for sure.

Other than that...some of the Chinese cities I visited were very crowded and badly polluted, so that sucked.

But the worst city I've been to I think was some sort of crappy township somewhere in the Aussie outback. It takes mentally ill people to actually want to live there.

The US may have the worst city, but it also has the best.

I think Gary, Indiana is the worst city in the world. Always finishes in the top 4 in crime rates in the US, but it doesn't have the big city appeal of Baltimore, Detroit or St. Louis (the other perennial top 4s.) Plus, it's in Indiana.

Kiss her where it smells. Take her to Terre Haute, Indiana.

Other than that I'd say the worst city would be Pyongyang.
A few people have said Pyongyang, but is that just criticism of the admittedly despotic regime? Take a look at some photos here http://www.enlight.ru/camera/dprk/phen_mang_e.html, doesn't look so bad and the crime's pretty much non-existent. Doesn't really compare to Baghdad, Bogota or Slough...

A few people have said Pyongyang, but is that just criticism of the admittedly despotic regime? Take a look at some photos here http://www.enlight.ru/camera/dprk/phen_mang_e.html, doesn't look so bad and the crime's pretty much non-existent. Doesn't really compare to Baghdad, Bogota or Slough...
Woah! I wanna live there!

Los Angeles, California.


Just kidding. I hate it, but it's not really all that bad.


Probably Pyongyang. Or Baghdad. Or Tracy. Maybe Salt Lake City.

Pyongyang is a show capital, and almost certainly depressing beyond belief. Pregnant women and the elderly are not permitted to live there, I read, to increase that whole "show" aspect. :/

Not even New York? /baitedquestion

To be honest, NYC doesn't do it for me either. I have no idea why so many people view it as the center of the universe. Nor do I know why I wasn't all that impressed. I loved Paris, which is similarly sized, so it's not that. Something about that city is just suffocating and claustrophobia-inducing in a way no other city I've ever been to is.

Denver is the only American city I've really liked, and by city I mean with over 1M people. Ann Arbor, Michigan is my favourite city, but many people here wouldn't consider it a "city" because its too small. I grew up in a town of 400 people, so I have a slightly different perspective.

If we're including third world cities, the worst I've ever been to is Ar Ramadi, Iraq. Each part of town has a rather distinctive aroma.

Worst city in the world - Mexico, NY. If you have a family, don't take them there for anything because if your kids aren't perfect clones of every other kid they will declare them legally insane and send them across the county to a school for troubled kids. I know this because it happened to me when my family moved there. My parents immediately starting homeschooling me and I was completely fine, even when we moved out to California and I went back to public school.

That's weird. I mean, not everyone loves it, but most people recognize it IS an impressive city of many landmarks and high culture. The claustrophobia I understand, although having grown up here I've rarely experienced it, but if you come from such a tiny town it's not uncommon. Personally, I believe NYC to be one of the best cities in the world on so many levels, just like London and Tokyo. We have every imaginable culture and creed here, and they all live together in remarkable harmony given the pressures of city life. In fact, New York is per capita safer than most of the other big cities in the US. Of coursel, I'm biased, so to each his own...
My dad grew up in a small town too, so I understand where you're coming from.

I do recognize that NYC has a lot to offer as far as landmarks and culture. And its not that I particularly dislike NYC, its just that I didn't particularly like it, if that makes any sense.

I may have grown up in a small town, but I've lived in larger cities. I lived just outside of Frankfurt, Germany and Colorado Springs, and while they're both smaller than NYC, not many towns aren't. I've become used to being in a crowded city, but NYC seemed more suffocating to me than others. Perhaps its the skyscrapers, which Paris didn't really have (outside La Defense) that does that.

Camden is actually the most dangerous city in the US...2 years running now. Detroit is a mere #2.
I saif HIGHEST CRIME RAte, not most dangerous city.

worse town to live in is Mablethorpe a total shit hole full of the dregs of society or I would Choose Jo'burg or the none tourtisty bits of Durban
What's Jo'Burg

I think Camden, NJ has the highest crime rate in the US now.
Camden is the most dangerous city in the US, meaning you have the highest chance of being the victim of a violent crime. It doesn't necessarily have the highest crime rate if you take into account non-violent crimes.

Mogadishu.
Meh, it's just Camden, NJ without the political corruption.

What's Jo'Burg

Johannesberg. The Rape Capital of the World.

Johannesberg. The Rape Capital of the World.
That probably makes Johannesburg the most dangerous city in the world as well.

Sunderland in the UK, the only people who live there either haven't found a way to get out of it yet or never will. Everybody there looks miserable and docile, nobody bumps into you or tells you to get out of the way like normal people do in the isolated, high-anxiety atmosphere of a city, they say sorry and walk around you, pathetic. There is no gay scene, there are w*nkers with spoilered cars coming at you from every direction with their windows open, blasting happy hardcore music and the buses only turn up when they want to. The city's two single-sex catholic schools are said to be a less traumatic experience for chldren than the rest. The architecture gives Sheffield a run for its money in the monstrous concrete department and all the kids seem to care about there is whether they're emo, goth or chav.

I thought Gary Indiana had the highest crime rate in the US.

Also, I say detroit because it has the highest crime rate in the world, and is heavily polluted.

Don't get me wrong, there's a ton of things wrong with detroit... namely, it's crooked mayor and city council... but detroit does not hold the record for the highest crime rate anymore.

Camden NJ is now the most dangerous city in the US
http://www.morganquitno.com/cit06pop.htm#25

And, as of 2004 (the last full year for which stats are available) st. louis, atlanta, baltimore, and orlando all have higher violent crime rates than Detroit. Violent crime does not include offenses against property
http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0510/18/B01-352406.htm
And though i could only find the 2003 stats, Dallas led the US for overall crime rate (at that point, for the 6th straight year).
So, detroit's crime rate is not the highest in the US, let alone the world.

And though detroit has its pollution problems, it's still cleaner than Los Angeles... and it's never set a lake on fire, unlike its neighbors to the south in Cleveland. Not to mention that the state of michigan's environmental protection act has been a model for many states.

Worst city I've been to is Miami Florida. The people are the rudest in the world. Even service people that are supposed to be nice are rude. You can't even get directions from people on the street without a large tip first.

That probably makes Johannesburg the most dangerous city in the world as well.

It's definitely one of the most dangerous, that's for sure.

Surrey, British Columbia

If you change it slightly it becomes an apology

Sorry, British Columbia

I used to defend it but it just continues to prove me wrong. It is just a sprawling mass of developement, which would be bad enough but they mostly build strip malls which is even worse. Two of the worse bridge on-ramps evar!11! And now...with Gang related shootings. Atleast the auto theft went down, we got the bait car program so they all moved to the next town over.

Seriously about 7 years ago our head of auto theft had his car stolen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crap_Towns

Oddly enough, was it last year, or the year before, when CNN stated a person was five times more likely to be violently assaulted in London than anywhere in the US? Not that CNN has such a sterling rep.
DC still hold murder capitol of the US, I think.
Most dangerous city changes over time - Berlin, May 1945 might have kinda sucked to live in, as London during the blitz.
Right now it's still Bagdad, more than likely, just, IIRC, Berlin was a very dangerous city for quite a bit of the occupation. Corect me if I'm wrong, as the Allies didn't end the occupation until 1952 or so.

TUCSON ARIZONA IS THE DUMBEST CITY IN THE WORLD!!! not just because its a piece of crap, it has the University of Arizona in it, and that college sucks even more.

Oddly enough, was it last year, or the year before, when CNN stated a person was five times more likely to be violently assaulted in London than anywhere in the US? Not that CNN has such a sterling rep.


Wouldn't surprise me. While guns are banned in England, that doesn't deter street crime.

This group does well-known crime rankings every year for cities in the US.

http://www.morganquitno.com/cit06pop.htm#25

Camden, NJ is first, and Gary, Indiana (the one I nominated) is 9th.

On a related note, New York, NY is rated the 5th safest city with a population of 500,000+.

Los Angeles, CA. Birthplace of the Crypts and Bloodz. That should be all I need to say.