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Inspired by this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=461026):

Imagine you were the parent of a teenager (girl or boy, although I think this scenarion is a bit more likely to occur with a boy) and you cleaned his room, accidentally moving the matress. You'd see some paper sticking out form underneath and pulling it out found it to be a nudie magazine, an edition of playboy or something similar. If your kid is uninventive, maybe it's just some pages out of a Victoria's Secrets catalogue ;)

How would you react to this? Would you confront your child? Would you take the p0rn away? Would you be offended?
Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?

I would comfiscate them immediately and examine the material to see just how damaging it is. It's for the children after all.

Inspired by this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=461026):

Imagine you were the parent of a teenager (girl or boy, although I think this scenarion is a bit more likely to occur with a boy) and you cleaned his room, accidentally moving the matress. You'd see some paper sticking out form underneath and pulling it out found it to be a nudie magazine, an edition of playboy or something similar. If your kid is uninventive, maybe it's just some pages out of a Victoria's Secrets catalogue ;)

How would you react to this? Would you confront your child? Would you take the p0rn away? Would you be offended?
Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?

Remember my teen years, put it back!

Only exception is if it's really, really weird, highly illegal stuff. Then you've got a problem...:(

I would comfiscate them immediately and examine the material to see just how damaging it is. It's for the children after all.

Personally, I would suspect you of confiscating it for private use :D

Let's assume the kid is 14 or 15, for argument's sake. In what way do you think p0rn could be damaging?

Elgesh']Remember my teen years, put it back!

Only exception is if it's really, really weird, highly illegal stuff. Then you've got a problem...:(
Exactly. If it's S&M or similar stuff, I'd get concerned. Otherwise... Well, under the bed isn't the best hiding place. I hope my son is smarter than that. :p

(And now I'm just going to get out of the way of all of the people who will come into this thread bearing whips and chains to defend S&M....)

I wouldn't touch it, for sanitary reasons.

Exactly. If it's S&M or similar stuff, I'd get concerned. Otherwise... Well, under the bed isn't the best hiding place. I hope my son is smarter than that. :p

(And now I'm just going to get out of the way of all of the people who will come into this thread bearing whips and chains to defend S&M....)

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Personally, I would suspect you of confiscating it for private use :D

Let's assume the kid is 14 or 15, for argument's sake. In what way do you think p0rn could be damaging?
They could put an eye out.

Seriouisly, I wouldn't care if they had porn or not. If they feel they need it, then they can go right ahead and purchase it with their own money. Plus, kids will be kids.

I would confiscate them. then, in a calm manner, discuss the subject with my child (Boy or Girl) on the following subjects.
1) where did they (underage) obtain such material.
2) explain that such material is fantasy and not a guide on how men/women should be acting
3) Use it as a platform into the dreaded talk about "the Birds and the Bees"
4) let them know that it is against the law for minors to have such things and that he/she will get them back when they turn 18.

the one thing I would not do is punnish him/her.

How would you react to this? Would you confront your child? Would you take the p0rn away? Would you be offended?
Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?
I had a laugh and put it back, then had a nice long conversation with my older son about it. I tried to get across to him the concept that all porn is fantasy and that reality is always considerably different. I stressed to him that the primary purpose of pornogrophy is to sell pornogrophy and if that meant presenting people as objects, then that's what they would do. At least it got him to thinking about it.

Although I never checked, I think he threw it away and concentrated more on sports and dating "real" women after that.

Exactly. If it's S&M or similar stuff, I'd get concerned. Otherwise... Well, under the bed isn't the best hiding place. I hope my son is smarter than that. :p

(And now I'm just going to get out of the way of all of the people who will come into this thread bearing whips and chains to defend S&M....)

No need to defend it, you didn't attack it after all. We are still talking about a minor here, so concern on finding S&M stuff is justified, I think. How would you react, do you think? Try to talk to him about it?

I probably would have given it to my son.

Assuming it's nothing too strange... I would probally put it back without saying anything, or suggest better hiding spots.

Chuckle and add it to my insanely-larger collection of p0rn.

I'd place the magazine somewhere else in his/her bedroom. It would be somewhere that they'd find it without much effort. Then he/she would constantly be asking him/herself whether someone found the magazine or they had forgotten their hiding place. Dance, puppets! Dance!

I'd place the magazine somewhere else in his/her bedroom. It would be somewhere that they'd find it without much effort. Then he/she would constantly be asking him/herself whether someone found the magazine or they had forgotten their hiding place. Dance, puppets! Dance!
Fun for you, but not very effective for your child. :rolleyes:

Fun for you, but not very effective for your child. :rolleyes:

That DOES sound like fun, actually.

Fun for you, but not very effective for your child. :rolleyes:
Come on, are you saying that you never did anything like that? ;)

That DOES sound like fun, actually.
Seconded.

I wouldn't be cleaning my kid's room, because that would be his job. It would also protect his privacy.

As to the porn, no big deal if he's 14+. Below that, I'd have to have a serious talk with him. Also, if it's straight porn I would have to talk about perception of the women in it, because straight porn can be very degrading to them. If gay, then that's not really an issue.

Fun for you, but not very effective for your child. :rolleyes:

What do you mean "effective"? What should I be trying to "effect"?

This way we both get to have fun. :D
And I'll have the added pleasure of causing my child lasting emotional trauma. 2-1!

Come on, are you saying that you never did anything like that? ;)
I've teased my children many times, but only when it was fun for both of us, not just to see them sweat or worry.

I would confiscate them. then, in a calm manner, discuss the subject with my child (Boy or Girl) on the following subjects.
1) where did they (underage) obtain such material.
2) explain that such material is fantasy and not a guide on how men/women should be acting
3) Use it as a platform into the dreaded talk about "the Birds and the Bees"
4) let them know that it is against the law for minors to have such things and that he/she will get them back when they turn 18.

the one thing I would not do is punnish him/her.

Can I ask if you're a woman or a man? I don't disagree with points 2 and 3, but 1 and 4... ouch! I don't think you'd accomplish your goals through them.

Personally, if I thought 2 and 3 needed saying, I'd start that difficult conversation, but I would never flat out tell them I knew about the magazines - I'd dress it up as 'that time of your life' etc etc. I might _hint_ I knew - put in a few choice references to, say, lesbians and guys, and why it doesn't work the way 'some magazines' portray it, but I wouldn't mention the magazines outright.

At that sort of age, 14, 15, teenagers do require a _little_ privacy to develop on their own, and I think this is an example of giving them a little privacy while still responsibly guiding them.

the first thing i would do is smack myself upside the head for being so stupid as to clean my teenagers bedroom.

the second thing i would do is smack myself upside the head for invading my teen's privacy

the third thing id do is consider buy him a better bedside stand that could hold his "frequent use" porn without it having to be under the mattress and if there is enough of it, an opaque bin to put the rest in to store under the bed.

i wouldnt confront him unless there were something illegal there that could get him arrested.

some other time i might go on an rant about how the stuff you see in porn isnt particularily representative of what happens in real life. but i do that kind of thing regardless of provocation.

I've teased my children many times, but only when it was fun for both of us, not just to see them sweat or worry.
Not even on April Fools?

Teenager? We're talkin' like 14-15 or more like 18-19?

Either way, I suppose it doesn't matter. I'd probably make sure that my son wasn't using it as a tool to objectify women, but there's no law against him possessing such materials and I'd be a 100% hypocrite if I were to confiscate it, so I would pretty much just shrug and say, "Meh".

I'd place the magazine somewhere else in his/her bedroom. It would be somewhere that they'd find it without much effort. Then he/she would constantly be asking him/herself whether someone found the magazine or they had forgotten their hiding place. Dance, puppets! Dance!

Ahahahaha :D

I wouldn't be cleaning my kid's room, because that would be his job. It would also protect his privacy.

As to the porn, no big deal if he's 14+. Below that, I'd have to have a serious talk with him. Also, if it's straight porn I would have to talk about perception of the women in it, because straight porn can be very degrading to them. If gay, then that's not really an issue.

Might be more or less my reaction as well...

My younger brother had a very good business going at some point when he was about 16. He would go to the Czech Republic for short holidays with friends and buy magazines for pennies, really, as the Czech Krone was almost worthless. He would buy stacks and stacks and sell it when he got back home ;)
I found it when looking through his desk for some keys... mom still doesn't know where he got all that money at the time :D

Teenager? We're talkin' like 14-15 or more like 18-19?

Either way, I suppose it doesn't matter. I'd probably make sure that my son wasn't using it as a tool to objectify women, but there's no law against him possessing such materials and I'd be a 100% hypocrite if I were to confiscate it, so I would pretty much just shrug and say, "Meh".

Actually there is, here in the United States anyway. You could be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Might be more or less my reaction as well...

My younger brother had a very good business going at some point when he was about 16. He would go to the Czech Republic for short holidays with friends and buy magazines for pennies, really, as the Czech Krone was almost worthless. He would buy stacks and stacks and sell it when he got back home ;)
I found it when looking through his desk for some keys... mom still doesn't know where he got all that money at the time :D

Crafty little capitalist. Clever, too, to realise the selling power of smut.

Actually there is, here in the United States anyway. You could be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

You can't be charged with contributing to the deliquency of your own minor. This is Texas. I can take my five year old to a bar and buy them a shot of whiskey, light their cigarette for them, and read the captions with them on the girlie mag.

Parental rights. We still have 'em.

Actually there is, here in the United States anyway. You could be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Crazy yanks.

You can't be charged with contributing to the deliquency of your own minor. This is Texas. I can take my five year old to a bar and buy them a shot of whiskey, light their cigarette for them, and read the captions with them on the girlie mag.

Parental rights. We still have 'em.

We don't have em in Arkansas. I assumed it was a national thing.

Crazy yanks.

It goes like this: Violence = OK. Sex = of teh devil!

Actually there is, here in the United States anyway. You could be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
Well, I've been a US citizen for over 62 years now, and I've never heard of a law stating that it was illegal for a minor to possess pornography, other than the fact that some types of pornography are illegal regardless of who possesses it ( kiddie porn, for example ). In most states you cannot buy porn unless you're 18, but possessing it isn't to my knowledge illegal.

Where the hell is Cat Tribe when you need him?? ;)

Actually there is, here in the United States anyway. You could be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

I'm not 100% sure about the laws here, but I think it's not illegal for a minor to be in the possession of p0rn, it's just illegal for anybody to sell it to them.

Otherwise you'd be in conflict with the law if you had some movies in your house (hidden or not) while your kid is there....

We don't have em in Arkansas. I assumed it was a national thing.

Wow! Really? Yikes. In Texas we have the right to pretty much do anything except drown them. We can even use anything up to, but not including, deadly force against our children to maintain discipline in the home.

I plan on printing out that law and framing it to be placed on prominent display when my kids become teenagers. :D

Crafty little capitalist. Clever, too, to realise the selling power of smut.

I have to admit, I nicked two of the magazines ;)

I'm not 100% sure about the laws here, but I think it's not illegal for a minor to be in the possession of p0rn, it's just illegal for anybody to sell it to them.

Otherwise you'd be in conflict with the law if you had some movies in your house (hidden or not) while your kid is there....

Ah yes, that's it. It's illegal to sell them porn or give it to them, but not illegal for them to have it.

Same goes for alcohol.

Silly me. Technicalities are awesome.

I have to admit, I nicked two of the magazines ;)

Just two? I'd've made off with more.

Wow! Really? Yikes. In Texas we have the right to pretty much do anything except drown them. We can even use anything up to, but not including, deadly force against our children to maintain discipline in the home.

I plan on printing out that law and framing it to be placed on prominent display when my kids become teenagers. :D

That's it. I'm moving to Texas.

It goes like this: Violence = OK. Sex = of teh devil!

:p

To be fair, I don't know which is worse for my mental well-being: Walking in on a teenager "perusing" a porn mag, or stumbling across a teenager shooting at birds and/or small children with their legally owned rifle. ;)

Just two? I'd've made off with more.

I was 17 and still attending Catholic school.... and more would have been suspicious :p

:p

To be fair, I don't know which is worse. Walking in on a teenager "perusing" a porn mag, or stumbling across a teenager shooting at birds and/or small children with their legally owned rifle. ;)

From society's viewpoint, the porn magazine.

Ah yes, that's it. It's illegal to sell them porn or give it to them, but not illegal for them to have it.

Same goes for alcohol.

Silly me. Technicalities are awesome.
Better check on the "give it to them" part as well. I can't see making a good case for it being illegal.

:p

To be fair, I don't know which is worse for my mental well-being: Walking in on a teenager "perusing" a porn mag, or stumbling across a teenager shooting at birds and/or small children with their legally owned rifle. ;)

For me, the latter in so many, many ways. :(

From society's viewpoint, the porn magazine.

Do you have any idea how sad that is?


Or how scary?

From society's viewpoint, the porn magazine.
I think you're exaggerating a bit here...

I was 17 and still attending Catholic school....

Oh, you poor thing.

and more would have been suspicious :p

Who cares - you could've always blackmailed him by threatening to tell. You were not a crafty capitalist, I guess. ;)

:p

To be fair, I don't know which is worse for my mental well-being: Walking in on a teenager "perusing" a porn mag, or stumbling across a teenager shooting at birds and/or small children with their legally owned rifle. ;)
Staring at porn isn't illegal to my knowledge. Shooting within the city limits, shooting several different sorts of animals including birds, and shooting at small children are all illegal in most jurisdictions.

Do you have any idea how sad that is?


Or how scary?
Or how bullshitty? LOL!

Who cares - you could've always blackmailed him by threatening to tell. You were not a crafty capitalist, I guess. ;)

No... I just knew about my mom's double standards, and so did he.

She would have dismissed his "business" with the words "boys will be boys", but if she had found any p0rn on me EVER, I'd have been in a world of trouble :(

Why do you think I was sent to Catholic school in the first place?

Staring at porn isn't illegal to my knowledge. Shooting within the city limits, shooting several different sorts of animals including birds, and shooting at small children are all illegal in most jurisdictions.

That's right, most. Going by what Keru said earlier, it's probably legal in Texas. Right?

:D

That's it. I'm moving to Texas.

We are one of the last remaining truly Libertarian states. The Republicans haven't completely ruined us yet. We even still accept civil disobedience as a means of effecting change.

Many see us as "just another red state", but that's cuz they've not actually lived here. We're more of a purple state. Even more so now that so many of those poor New Orleans refugees came here and decided to stay.

No... I just knew about my mom's double standards, and so did he.
She would have dismissed his "business" with the words "boys will be boys", but if she had found any p0rn on me EVER, I'd have been in a world of trouble :(
Why do you think I was sent to Catholic school in the first place?

Why? Am I forgetting some obvious reason for which you should have been treated differently?

I'd place the magazine somewhere else in his/her bedroom. It would be somewhere that they'd find it without much effort. Then he/she would constantly be asking him/herself whether someone found the magazine or they had forgotten their hiding place. Dance, puppets! Dance!

Hmmm. Cruel and unusual punishment anyone? :)

That's right, most. Going by what Keru said earlier, it's probably legal in Texas. Right?

:D

Lol! No. Can't shoot at animals unless you have a proper license and you can't get a hunting license without a safety course and you have to specify what you're hunting and you can't shoot animals of a certain type, age, or go over a limited number of said animals. We're pretty staunch about conserving nature.

You can't shoot at children under any circumstances.

You can't shoot within the city limits of most Texas cities, but that's City Ordinance, not State law.

Ok I checked the alcohol bit. Under North Carolina and Arkansas Law, (I don't have my complete law database available from here) giving your own children alcohol at home is a misdermeanor.

Now, giving porn to people who are not your children is also definitely illegal. However, with the limited database I have available from here, I could not find a single case of a parent giving porn to their own child to check legality of it. Sorry.

Why? Am I forgetting some obvious reason for which you should have been treated differently?

Yup, a VERY obvious one. I'm a girl :p ;)

Ok I checked the alcohol bit. Under North Carolina and Arkansas Law, (I don't have my complete law database available from here) giving your own children alcohol at home is a misdermeanor.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

What about Holy Communion or the children having wine at Passover? I'd fight that one under religious discrimination.

Yup, a VERY obvious one. I'm a girl :p ;)

Oh. Personally I still don't see the reason for differential treatment, but I do recognise that others seem to. I hope you are in a better place now where you can enjoy porn like a normal person. :)

:eek: :eek: :eek:

What about Holy Communion or the children having wine at Passover? I'd fight that one under religious discrimination.

I don't think it's really enforced... but it is, in fact, illegal.

Oh. Personally I still don't see the reason for differential treatment, but I do recognise that others seem to. I hope you are in a better place now where you can enjoy porn like a normal person. :)

Right now? In bed, with my laptop, and enjoying it. Every fucking minute :D

No... I just knew about my mom's double standards, and so did he.

She would have dismissed his "business" with the words "boys will be boys", but if she had found any p0rn on me EVER, I'd have been in a world of trouble :(

Why do you think I was sent to Catholic school in the first place?

Ah the double standards of Catholic Ireland. Makes you want to spit up doesn't it? Plus I suppose it is more 'socially acceptable' for guys to have porn. After all, most of it is targeted at the 18-25 yr old male demographic. Young women are supposed to have a higher moral standard than us filthy minded sex fiends (also known as males)

Yup, a VERY obvious one. I'm a girl :p ;)

I'd let you keep your porn. Same thing ... i'd just make sure you didn't use it as a tool to objectify women (I honestly don't care if men are objectified). Girl Schmirl.

Inspired by this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=461026):

Imagine you were the parent of a teenager (girl or boy, although I think this scenarion is a bit more likely to occur with a boy) and you cleaned his room, accidentally moving the matress. You'd see some paper sticking out form underneath and pulling it out found it to be a nudie magazine, an edition of playboy or something similar. If your kid is uninventive, maybe it's just some pages out of a Victoria's Secrets catalogue ;)

How would you react to this? Would you confront your child? Would you take the p0rn away? Would you be offended?
Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?
Leave it be. It's all harmless. If they become obsessed with it, and I find out, then I'll have a talk. 'Course, this is assuming I would ever reproduce. ..And cleaned their room.

I don't think it's really enforced... but it is, in fact, illegal.

Oh ... yeah we have a few of those. All it will take is a single case of a cop tryin' to be a dick. It was one single case like that in Texas that got the entire nation's sodomy laws abolished. :D

The first time a local bubba sherrif arrests a man for putting a couple drops of wine in his son's mouth during his brit milah, Arkansas will become famous for having all State liquor laws completely reorganized into something more realistic.

Ah the double standards of Catholic Ireland. Makes you want to spit up doesn't it? Plus I suppose it is more 'socially acceptable' for guys to have porn. After all, most of it is targeted at the 18-25 yr old male demographic. Young women are supposed to have a higher moral standard than us filthy minded sex fiends (also known as males)

*lol

I grew up in Germany. But Catholic morals are universal, I guess ;)

And I never lived up to those expectations, although it's sometimes rather obvious that I'm not the intended target group. I just have to look a bit longer :D

Right now? In bed, with my laptop, and enjoying it. Every fucking minute :D

YAY FOR DOUBLE ENTENDRES. <3

Right now? In bed, with my laptop, and enjoying it. Every fucking minute :D

Yay! Me and my lappy know what you're talkin' 'bout, girl! ;)

I'd let you keep your porn. Same thing ... i'd just make sure you didn't use it as a tool to objectify women (I honestly don't care if men are objectified). Girl Schmirl.

But I like objectifying women... just ask Grainne. And when it comes to sex, I like being objectified as well :p

Right now? In bed, with my laptop, and enjoying it. Every fucking minute :D

We're going to need pictures to be sure you're *truly* enjoying it.

(I honestly don't care if men are objectified).

Testify!

Lol! No. Can't shoot at animals unless you have a proper license and you can't get a hunting license without a safety course and you have to specify what you're hunting and you can't shoot animals of a certain type, age, or go over a limited number of said animals. We're pretty staunch about conserving nature.

You can't shoot at children under any circumstances.

You can't shoot within the city limits of most Texas cities, but that's City Ordinance, not State law.

Dude, I was kidding. You of all people should have realised that :p

But I like objectifying women... just ask Grainne. And when it comes to sex, I like being objectified as well :p

Once again ... we're going to need pictures to .... oh you get it, never mind. :D

Dude, I was kidding. You of all people should have realised that :p

Yes I know you were, I just wanted to make sure nobody else took you seriously and started coming over here and shooting things willy nilly. ;)

But I like objectifying women... just ask Grainne. And when it comes to sex, I like being objectified as well :p

I'll objectify you. In EVERY HOLE.

Once again ... we're going to need pictures to .... oh you get it, never mind. :D

*lol

I just posted a pic of my pussy in another thread today... don't tell me you haven't seen it?

I'll objectify you. In EVERY HOLE.

Let's make a movie, and this time, I'll get a share in the profits :D

*lol

I just posted a pic of my pussy in another thread today... don't tell me you haven't seen it?

lol ... yeah I saw that.

Wow ... this thread has taken some wild turns.

*lol

I grew up in Germany. But Catholic morals are universal, I guess ;)

And I never lived up to those expectations, although it's sometimes rather obvious that I'm not the intended target group. I just have to look a bit longer :D

Joys of the internet, if its out there someone'll find it:D And yes I did grow up in Ireland and yes I was raised a Catholic and yes I have a helathy interest in women. No I'm not obessed by porn. Though some lonely nights.....

Let's make a movie, and this time, I'll get a share in the profits :D

50/50?

Yes I know you were, I just wanted to make sure nobody else took you seriously and started coming over here and shooting things willy nilly. ;)

Okay. How about I say it's legal in Louisiana? That way everyone is happy. Wait, they already shoot at anything over there. Particularly if it flies over overcrowded stadiums filled with homeless people.

Inspired by this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=461026):

Imagine you were the parent of a teenager (girl or boy, although I think this scenarion is a bit more likely to occur with a boy) and you cleaned his room, accidentally moving the matress. You'd see some paper sticking out form underneath and pulling it out found it to be a nudie magazine, an edition of playboy or something similar. If your kid is

it's just some pages out of a Victoria's Secrets catalogue ;)

How would you react to this? Would you confront your child? Would you take the p0rn away? Would you be offended?
Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?
First of all as a male the idea of me cleaning his room is laughable.
*I would confiscate it.
*Keep it for myself.
*Tell them sex is evil.

My 10th birtday i was given(It wasn't a present) some revealing images of women by a friend we were all in my room looking at them and then it was confiscated.

50/50?

Let's do some maths, shall we?

I'm offering three holes, you've got one poker, so that should work out 75/25, right? :D

Okay. How about I say it's legal in Louisiana? That way everyone is happy. Wait, they already shoot at anything over there. Particularly if it flies over overcrowded stadiums filled with homeless people.

That's only legal in Louisiana if you're drunk.

Joys of the internet, if its out there someone'll find it:D And yes I did grow up in Ireland and yes I was raised a Catholic and yes I have a helathy interest in women. No I'm not obessed by porn. Though some lonely nights.....

I don't really know what would qualify as obsession... weekly? Daily? Every hour?

Let's do some maths, shall we?

I'm offering three holes, you've got one poker, so that should work out 75/25, right? :D

Yeah, but I'm also supplying the film, the camera, the room, the alcohol to convince you to do it...

Yeah, but I'm also supplying the film, the camera, the room, the alcohol to convince you to do it...

I'm also supplying two boobies... and what kind of alcohol are we talking about?

That's only legal in Louisiana if you're drunk.

And the problem is....? :D

I'm also supplying two boobies... and what kind of alcohol are we talking about?

Whatever your mind can dream of. And I'm supplying two balls. :X

I don't really know what would qualify as obsession... weekly? Daily? Every hour?


Well. I think about every six seconds, so that's normal (I hope!):confused:

Well. I think about every six seconds, so that's normal (I hope!):confused:

Anything less, and I'd be worried about you :D

Man this thread went downhill fast It started out with such a serious moral question and now look at us. Oh the shame! Will we ever learn?:rolleyes:

Whatever your mind can dream of. And I'm supplying two balls. :X

In that case, I'll settle for 50/50

Do we need a script? :)

Anything less, and I'd be worried about you :D


Me too, my dear, me too...

In that case, I'll settle for 50/50

Do we need a script? :)


Not for that kind of movie I think :eek:

Not for that kind of movie I think :eek:

Many of them seem to have one... but then, many of them seem little more than advanced gymnastics, anyway

Edit: As I said, I'm not the intended target group :D

I would do nothing. Wouldn't want to embarass the poor chap. When I say "do nothing", I mean I wouldn't let on that I knew, but I'd burn it, simply because I like burning things. Who doesn't?

I'd place the magazine somewhere else in his/her bedroom. It would be somewhere that they'd find it without much effort. Then he/she would constantly be asking him/herself whether someone found the magazine or they had forgotten their hiding place. Dance, puppets! Dance!
Hehehehehehehehehe...:cool:

That's right, most. Going by what Keru said earlier, it's probably legal in Texas. Right?

:D
I have no idea. You'll have to ask him that. :)

In that case, I'll settle for 50/50

Do we need a script? :)

Oh, heck no. Improv is so much more fun. And I've got costumes and everything!

Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?
that one. just leave it. tis perfectly natural and near enough inevitable in today's world.

Oh, heck no. Improv is so much more fun. And I've got costumes and everything!

Costumes? Kewl!

I've got a few toys myself... ;)

I'd be relieved to find out they're straight, but I'd [secretly] throw it out.

Okay. How about I say it's legal in Louisiana? That way everyone is happy. Wait, they already shoot at anything over there. Particularly if it flies over overcrowded stadiums filled with homeless people.
Boo! Hisss! [ throws MRE packages at Kanabia! ]

I'd be relieved to find out they're straight, but I'd [secretly] throw it out.

What if it was gay p0rn, then? Or what if you found it in your girl's room?

I would do nothing. Wouldn't want to embarass the poor chap. When I say "do nothing", I mean I wouldn't let on that I knew, but I'd burn it, simply because I like burning things. Who doesn't?


What a strange, strange man(?). Anyway, I hope you burn it in a responsble place and not under the bed

Oh, heck no. Improv is so much more fun. And I've got costumes and everything!


Costumes? You in the Boy Scouts or something? (Always Be Prepared):cool:

Costumes? Kewl!

I've got a few toys myself... ;)

You'll have to show me those. ;)

Costumes? You in the Boy Scouts or something? (Always Be Prepared):cool:

Though it is a nice parallel, don't use it again. It isn't really appropriate here...duh.:rolleyes:

I would probably ignore it if it was just ordinary porn. I mean, I would be full of shit to pretend that there is anything unusual or unhealthy about it. I might be more concerned if it depicted paraphilias or something.

Though it is a nice parallel, don't use it again. It isn't really appropriate here...duh.:rolleyes:

My apologies. I meant to say were you in the boy scouts, as in past tense. Again I apologise

You'll have to show me those. ;)

Sure thing. You can play with them, too, if you want to :cool:

Sure thing. You can play with them, too, if you want to :cool:

With you? :D

EDIT: How appropriate for post #666.

Boo! Hisss! [ throws MRE packages at Kanabia! ]
Meals Rejected (by) Ethiopeans:eek:
I guess that is the best place for them, Kanabia.*Evil Glare*

With you? :D

EDIT: How appropriate for post #666.


Freaky... *Twilight Zone Theme*

is it too late to make on on-topic post?

anyhow..as ashmoria and fass pointed out so nicely already: what the hell are you doing cleaning in your 14-15ish kid's bedroom?

secondly, also already provided for my and your convenience: the concept of privacy applies to underage folks, too. i know this is news for many of you parents, but rumor has it it does.

thirdly: it's porn, duh. not a description of how to blow up th nearest mall. don't pretend it's oh so dangerous or immoral or whatever. and don't say oh it's okay for me but not good for my kids. a normally developed teenage kid is very well able to handle porn, don't worry.

fourthly: i read all those nice tries for some sex ed talk. folks, if you haven't done this already, you might as well have done something wrong. and it's probably not getting better with an out-of-the blue talk about their porn. if this was your wake-up call that you might want to realize your kid has hit that certain age and you'd better have some talk about things, do that. but no need to mention that porn there.

When my son was 13, I did find porn between his matress and box spring. I left it there and said nothing. Today , 21 years later, he's a Navy Veteran (Desert Storm), ex-cop, big brother to a kid in Denver and and working in electronics - I'd say nothing bad came of it. It's natural curiosity, and, as has been previously mentioned, as long as it's not downright perverted (e.g. pedophilia, violence against others, etc.) it should be ignored.

is it too late to make on on-topic post?

anyhow..as ashmoria and fass pointed out so nicely already: what the hell are you doing cleaning in your 14-15ish kid's bedroom?

secondly, also already provided for my and your convenience: the concept of privacy applies to underage folks, too. i know this is news for many of you parents, but rumor has it it does.

thirdly: it's porn, duh. not a description of how to blow up th nearest mall. don't pretend it's oh so dangerous or immoral or whatever. and don't say oh it's okay for me but not good for my kids. a normally developed teenage kid is very well able to handle porn, don't worry.

fourthly: i read all those nice tries for some sex ed talk. folks, if you haven't done this already, you might as well have done something wrong. and it's probably not getting better with an out-of-the blue talk about their porn. if this was your wake-up call that you might want to realize your kid has hit that certain age and you'd better have some talk about things, do that. but no need to mention that porn there.


Wow! What a truly intelligent post! Three cheers. That is pretty much the most concise point made on the topic. Privacy is an unwritten right that many adults take for granted and ignore when it comes to kids. Double standards of any kind are usually detrimental, so why should we worry so much. In all, I believe that if its not something illegal(bestiality or whatever) then it is normal behaviour and should, whilst not be encouraged by underage kids being sent out to attempt to buy porn, it shouldn't be demonised either.
Like my dad always says, 'The day I stop looking, you can nail shut the coffin. I'm only human.'

Boo! Hisss! [ throws MRE packages at Kanabia! ]
A kind gesture, but there are others that need them more than me. *sends them to Louisiana* :D

:headbang: A kind gesture, but there are others that need them more than me. *sends them to Louisiana* :D


Getting a bit on the low brow side there isn't it. We shouldn't make fun of others misfortunes.... Ah to hell with. Send em on down. :headbang:

:headbang:


Getting a bit on the low brow side there isn't it. We shouldn't make fun of others misfortunes.... Ah to hell with. Send em on down. :headbang:

Yeah, I know, i'm terrible. But hey, I gave $20 to the Red Cross.

Yeah, I know, i'm terrible. But hey, I gave $20 to the Red Cross.


20 more than me so I suppose you win on kharma:)

I'd...

A. Show him a better place to hide them.

B. Ask to borrow them. :D

I'd...

A. Show him a better place to hide them.

B. Ask to borrow them. :D


Screw (no puns are intended) asking! Just take it for 'review' purposes and never give it back.;)

20 more than me so I suppose you win on kharma:)

Nah, I think I just broke even. :p

Nah, I think I just broke even. :p


Awwh hell, if you just broke even I'd better donate quick! Later I'm out!:cool:

2) explain that such material is fantasy and not a guide on how men/women should be acting
3) Use it as a platform into the dreaded talk about "the Birds and the Bees"


You mean you would not have had those talks already when the kid is 14 :o ?

Inspired by this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=461026):

Imagine you were the parent of a teenager (girl or boy, although I think this scenarion is a bit more likely to occur with a boy) and you cleaned his room, accidentally moving the matress. You'd see some paper sticking out form underneath and pulling it out found it to be a nudie magazine, an edition of playboy or something similar. If your kid is uninventive, maybe it's just some pages out of a Victoria's Secrets catalogue ;)

How would you react to this? Would you confront your child? Would you take the p0rn away? Would you be offended?
Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?
Smile and put it back. What sense do any of the other options make, anyway?

Inspired by this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=461026):

Imagine you were the parent of a teenager (girl or boy, although I think this scenarion is a bit more likely to occur with a boy) and you cleaned his room, accidentally moving the matress. You'd see some paper sticking out form underneath and pulling it out found it to be a nudie magazine, an edition of playboy or something similar. If your kid is uninventive, maybe it's just some pages out of a Victoria's Secrets catalogue ;)

How would you react to this? Would you confront your child? Would you take the p0rn away? Would you be offended?
Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?

Well seeing as there's nothing wrong with porn(or sex, for that matter) and seeing as I've never seen a logical arguement or study or whatnot that suggests that porn can harm kids, I'd tuck it back under the bed and leave the boy to his own devices.

is it too late to make on on-topic post?

anyhow..as ashmoria and fass pointed out so nicely already: what the hell are you doing cleaning in your 14-15ish kid's bedroom?

secondly, also already provided for my and your convenience: the concept of privacy applies to underage folks, too. i know this is news for many of you parents, but rumor has it it does. Maybe they're out (the kid), or something.

thirdly: it's porn, duh. not a description of how to blow up th nearest mall. And what would be wrong with that? don't pretend it's oh so dangerous or immoral or whatever. and don't say oh it's okay for me but not good for my kids. a normally developed teenage kid is very well able to handle porn, don't worry. Well I would hope it wouldn't be too slippery to handle.

fourthly: i read all those nice tries for some sex ed talk. folks, if you haven't done this already, you might as well have done something wrong. and it's probably not getting better with an out-of-the blue talk about their porn. if this was your wake-up call that you might want to realize your kid has hit that certain age and you'd better have some talk about things, do that. but no need to mention that porn there. Hey, I never ever had a sex ed talk from my parents, and I'm fine!

Hey, I never ever had a sex ed talk from my parents, and I'm fine!

Now THAT explains a post or two... :p

With you? :D

EDIT: How appropriate for post #666.

Of course... they're my toys, after all :D

Now THAT explains a post or two... :p You must be confusing me with someone else :). I've never asked whether you can get AIDS by kissing, or anything like that!

honestly worrying about finding porn under your kids bed is so oldfashioned.

you can be pretty sure that by the time your kid is a teen s/he has seen porn online, at your house or at a friends house, looked at a friends video or magazine porn at the friends house, looked at stuff that the naughty kid brought to school in his backpack. whatever

if youre concerned that your kid would gett an unrealistic view of adult behavior from porn, HE ALREADY IS. you should approach the thing from a "the damage has been done" point of view.

and yes its as important to talk about it with your gay kids as with your straight kids. the exploitation in the gay world can be viscious.

You must be confusing me with someone else :). I've never asked whether you can get AIDS by kissing, or anything like that!

Now, but I remember some of your first posts, about morals and sexuality... ;)

Now, but I remember some of your first posts, about morals and sexuality... ;) Yes, in Balipo's threads, as I recall. :p I have an Augustinian outlook on sex.

Maybe they're out (the kid), or something.

ah, i see. how stupid of me to forget that you waive your right to privacy when leaving the house.

And what would be wrong with that?

nothing "wrong". that's just something you might want to teach them themselves, that's all. you know, handing down traditions, and stuff. the true crafts should be learned from father to son.

Hey, I never ever had a sex ed talk from my parents, and I'm fine!

oh, "fine" is what they call that. *scribbles into her "new words i learned on NS" notebook*

What would I do if I found porn mags in my son's room? Buy the poor kid high-speed internet. Jesus, porn mags are so last decade. :rolleyes:

Really, I had quite the collection of porn when I was 16, it was never found and I never got any embarrassed little talking too (I would have gotten shit if someone did find it though) for it, and I turned out just fine. I never had a problem telling fantasy from reality, was under no delusions about sex, and grew up having a healthy respect for women and a great outlook on sexuality.

Personally, I think that people instill virtually all the significance (negative or otherwise) into things like this and all too often get their minds wrapped up in bullshit that only hurts people. You don’t need mind altering drugs to be easy-going, and you don’t need to have people lie to you to be secure. People would be better off if they just let shit like this go.

Elgesh']Remember my teen years, put it back!

Only exception is if it's really, really weird, highly illegal stuff. Then you've got a problem...:(

I would second that.

is it too late to make on on-topic post?

anyhow..as ashmoria and fass pointed out so nicely already: what the hell are you doing cleaning in your 14-15ish kid's bedroom?

secondly, also already provided for my and your convenience: the concept of privacy applies to underage folks, too. i know this is news for many of you parents, but rumor has it it does.

thirdly: it's porn, duh. not a description of how to blow up th nearest mall. don't pretend it's oh so dangerous or immoral or whatever. and don't say oh it's okay for me but not good for my kids. a normally developed teenage kid is very well able to handle porn, don't worry.

fourthly: i read all those nice tries for some sex ed talk. folks, if you haven't done this already, you might as well have done something wrong. and it's probably not getting better with an out-of-the blue talk about their porn. if this was your wake-up call that you might want to realize your kid has hit that certain age and you'd better have some talk about things, do that. but no need to mention that porn there.

I love you, again. Curse your womanhood!

ah, i see. how stupid of me to forget that you waive your right to privacy when leaving the house. 'Tis naïve to expect people not to be nosing nosy nosers at the blink of an eye.
nothing "wrong". that's just something you might want to teach them themselves, that's all. you know, handing down traditions, and stuff. the true crafts should be learned from father to son. It's not really a craft, more of a practice-run.
oh, "fine" is what they call that. *scribbles into her "new words i learned on NS" notebook* Why should I need a sex-ed talk from my parents?

If kid is old enough to get something outta porn, then he is old enough to do so.

Lol! No. Can't shoot at animals unless you have a proper license and you can't get a hunting license without a safety course and you have to specify what you're hunting and you can't shoot animals of a certain type, age, or go over a limited number of said animals. We're pretty staunch about conserving nature.

You can't shoot at children under any circumstances.

You can't shoot within the city limits of most Texas cities, but that's City Ordinance, not State law.

Ha! In the UK it's still legal to shoot Scotsmen from the walls of York with a longbow.

*wanders off to find link to said law*

'Tis naïve to expect people not to be nosing nosy nosers at the blink of an eye.
It's not really a craft, more of a practice-run.
Why should I need a sex-ed talk from my parents?

Practice does make perfect though....

Ha! In the UK it's still legal to shoot Scotsmen from the walls of York with a longbow.

*wanders off to find link to said law* So that's why the Lib Dems want Kennedy out... he's a liability!

I'd tell him to put it back on the book shelf when he's done with it.

That's it. I'm moving to Texas.
Its true. My dad had to check off it was ok for my coaches to use "the paddle" against me in football if I misbehaved.:eek:

Imagine you were the parent of a teenager (girl or boy, although I think this scenarion is a bit more likely to occur with a boy) and you cleaned his room, accidentally moving the matress. You'd see some paper sticking out form underneath and pulling it out found it to be a nudie magazine, an edition of playboy or something similar. If your kid is uninventive, maybe it's just some pages out of a Victoria's Secrets catalogue ;)

How would you react to this? Would you confront your child? Would you take the p0rn away? Would you be offended?
Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?
I suppose it would depend on the porn, if it was playboy or something similar, I would put it back and talk to the kid about it. If it was something more uh....like Penthouse (or worse) I would take the porn and talk to the kid about it. The tone of the talk I suppose would depend on the age of the kid.

I love you, again. Curse your womanhood!

i shall not, but rather curse your manhood. and, knowing my place, keep my love for you well hidden.

i shall not, but rather curse your manhood. and, knowing my place, keep my love for you well hidden.

"Everything we see hides another thing, we always want to see what is hidden by what we see." :fluffle:

I would rather see a porn magazine than a gun magazine in my kids bedroom. That sounds quite wrong looking at that now. ahhwell

anyhow..as ashmoria and fass pointed out so nicely already: what the hell are you doing cleaning in your 14-15ish kid's bedroom?

secondly, also already provided for my and your convenience: the concept of privacy applies to underage folks, too. i know this is news for many of you parents, but rumor has it it does. as long as any one of the following still occurs, My kids only have the level of privacy that I grant them.
1) They pay less than 50% of all bills in the home.
2) They don't pay rent.
3) They are listed as dependants.
4) They are still Minors in the eyes of the law.
5) I (as their Parent/Guardia) am responsible for said minor in the eyes of the law.

The fact that my Minor is in posession of Adult material is already against the law. one that I or any parent will be held responsible reguardless of where the minor (yes, 14/15 year olds are still minors in the eyes of the law) got those materials. So to protect the @$$es of my spouse and I, I will alter Privacy Levels in my home if and when it needs to be altered.

thirdly: it's porn, duh. not a description of how to blow up th nearest mall. don't pretend it's oh so dangerous or immoral or whatever. and don't say oh it's okay for me but not good for my kids. a normally developed teenage kid is very well able to handle porn, don't worry. define normal. what may be normal for you, may not be normal for everyone else. also, there are talks about sexual harrasement at school, at the workplace... etc..

fourthly: i read all those nice tries for some sex ed talk. folks, if you haven't done this already, you might as well have done something wrong. and it's probably not getting better with an out-of-the blue talk about their porn. if this was your wake-up call that you might want to realize your kid has hit that certain age and you'd better have some talk about things, do that. but no need to mention that porn there.
and what age is appropriate for "The Talk" 13? 10? 8?

For me, any time is appropriate for "The Talk" The subject of Relationships is not limited to one talk, one session. Women complain about being looked at like meat on the market. well, should I find porn, I will explain the difference between fantasy and reality. How to treat women (and men depending on what I find) like people and not objects of lust.

as long as any one of the following still occurs, My kids only have the level of privacy that I grant them.
-snipping legal arguments-

i am aware of your power. i wasn't saying you have to grant privacy to your kids in a legal or otherwisely binding way. i was merely saying that such things as respect and other petty ethics mandate it.

and what age is appropriate for "The Talk" 13? 10? 8?

first off, i oppose the idea of a "Talk" with a capitalized T as in one session. in order for any of this to happen productively, you'll need an atmosphere of something trust-like where talking about sex-related things comes easy.

that said, i think an answer to a question is due when the id asks it. a kid old enough to ask something is old enough to hear about it. you choose the amount of detail, but once the kid asks you'll ahve to accept your role as source about sex info. and rest assured that if you don't provide, it'll get it somewhere else. and then, you don't ahve no control about the details anymore.

what if it got to the point in which they became an addict, ordering many hundreds of dollar by pay per view, and even breaking into a neigbors house to supply the need? what then you enablers!

I'd probably just make it "vanish".

what if it got to the point in which they became an addict, ordering many hundreds of dollar by pay per view, and even breaking into a neigbors house to supply the need? what then you enablers!<<
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Hmm, no sarcasm tags. Okay.

Addictive behavior (sex addiction isn't by definition, despite the pseudopsych folk on TV), manifests itself in relation to normal levels of any number of every day activities and objects. The list is well-known and obvious...alcohol, drugs, gambling, porn. Normal exposure to any item on the list does not an addict make. Open and honest communication between parent and child goes a long way to both alerting the parent when things become a problem and giving the child the tools to keep their use within normal ranges.

Interestingly, children raised under strict, prohibitive attitudes toward porn, alcohol, etc. have a greater chance of having an inability of dealing with them in a rational manner.

Has anyone considered that the amount of porn watched by average kids has steadily risen? God bless the internet;)

To all you parents out there, trust me. You are far less likely to find a dirty magazine compared to a dirty website. Believe me, there is some nasty shit that goes on out there.

And I have been caught; I got made fun of for it a tad, then was sent on my way. Parents, believe me on this one...kids are never "Curious..." thats a load of crap. It works too :)

If I were to catch my own kids, as long as it wasn't really raunchy stuff, I wouldn't have too much of a problem with it...But once you get past the basic "porn," and into chains, whips and beyond, then you've got a problem...

I'd leave a note in the spank mag reading "limewire motherfucker...do you use it?" so long as it was not rape, ore pedo or anything of the nature of non consensual ickyness

fetish is fine, fetish is fun!;)

Porn? Least of my worries...



What do you do when you find pictures of them having sex?

I would put the magazine(s) back, but I would be sure to leave a box of condoms on the dresser just in case they're needed. He's already been given a book explaining the birds and the bees and the "animals" in between. I've answered any questions he's had about the topice and South Park has covered the rest. That last bit was a joke... slightly.

What would I do if I found porn in my son's bed?

I'd take it and go in the bathroom for a while.

Put it back and do nothing. Their business.

As for "the talk", I knew how it worked before I could read - my parents had this great book with pictures of babies in the womb from one month to the next, and they read it to me.
So later I never really had any questions, and the ones I did have were soon cleared up by school friends and so on.

The idea that you would even need some sort of "The Talk" comes out of a false sense of guilt on the part of the parents. You explain the rest of the world to them from Day One, why not that too? Why wait until later, why tell lies about storchs, birds and bees?

You mean you would not have had those talks already when the kid is 14 :o ?
We get them at school well we're 13, go liberal government!

We get them at school well we're 13, go liberal government!

13? Wow... we were 9...

.

As for "the talk", I knew how it worked before I could read - my parents had this great book with pictures of babies in the womb from one month to the next, and they read it to me.


peter, ida und das minimum? :D

anyhow, i agree on that other thing you said. i don't get that telling them things about bees or birds or whatever first.

peter, ida und das minimum? :D

anyhow, i agree on that other thing you said. i don't get that telling them things about bees or birds or whatever first.

Hey, that's one GREAT book. I loved that...

Another one (less informative but more funny) is "Mami hat ein Ei gelegt"

Hey, that's one GREAT book. I loved that...

Another one (less informative but more funny) is "Mami hat ein Ei gelegt"

i did, too. it's one hell of a good book, to be recommended to all parents. i think i still have it...somehwere.

and: "mami hat ein ei gelegt"?! holy shit, cabra! you so don't..well..see, this is the expression my family uses for..well, bowel movements. so..no.no.no!

Talk to them about it, make sure they don't think that what they see in magazines and movies is anything APPROACHING reality. ;)

i did, too. it's one hell of a good book, to be recommended to all parents. i think i still have it...somehwere.

and: "mami hat ein ei gelegt"?! holy shit, cabra! you so don't..well..see, this is the expression my family uses for..well, bowel movements. so..no.no.no!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/cabrawest/laughtersmile.gif

I know, we use the same expression. But trust me, the book is funny.

Check it out (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3794136381/qid%3D1135695504/302-9361864-5198450)

:eek: :eek: :eek:

What about Holy Communion or the children having wine at Passover? I'd fight that one under religious discrimination.


At Communion, you get a sip, or the wafer is dipped into the wine (intincted).
As far as I know, most Jewish parents give their kids sparking grape juice at Passover (Manischevitz, anyone?)

I would confiscate them. then, in a calm manner, discuss the subject with my child (Boy or Girl) on the following subjects.
1) where did they (underage) obtain such material.
2) explain that such material is fantasy and not a guide on how men/women should be acting
3) Use it as a platform into the dreaded talk about "the Birds and the Bees"
4) let them know that it is against the law for minors to have such things and that he/she will get them back when they turn 18.

the one thing I would not do is punnish him/her.
you're not very fun...

Have a good snigger.

I would only confiscate it if it was S&M or Noncerey.

you're not very fun...
maybe not. but I do wish my parents did this when they found my stash. :(

i am aware of your power. i wasn't saying you have to grant privacy to your kids in a legal or otherwisely binding way. i was merely saying that such things as respect and other petty ethics mandate it.true, but alot of people on this forum think that Teen privacy is protected by law.

I will respect my child's rights. and as [s]he shows maturity, then [s]he gets more respect and freedom.

first off, i oppose the idea of a "Talk" with a capitalized T as in one session. in order for any of this to happen productively, you'll need an atmosphere of something trust-like where talking about sex-related things comes easy.

that said, i think an answer to a question is due when the id asks it. a kid old enough to ask something is old enough to hear about it. you choose the amount of detail, but once the kid asks you'll ahve to accept your role as source about sex info. and rest assured that if you don't provide, it'll get it somewhere else. and then, you don't ahve no control about the details anymore.I used the captial "T" to indicate subject, not how many sessions. which is why to say "you haven't given the Talk yet" response in earlier posts is rather... inappropriate.

the answers/details do change depending on how much info the you thinks the child can handle. but the one thing I will encourage is that should my child have questions or even encounter such things they will be comfortable enought to not hide it, but talk to us.

yeeaahhhh.... id just eat one of my own limbs or something
~Drinkin Irish
:rolleyes:

How to treat women (and men depending on what I find) like people and not objects of lust.

I wouldn't mind being looked at like an object of lust. :p

Alternate question: What would you do if you found gay p0rn in one of your children's bedroom? Would that change your reaction in any way?

How about bisexual p0rn?

I wouldn't mind being looked at like an object of lust. :p
*Leers*

*Leers*
*Takes a sexy pose*

*Takes a sexy pose*
*drools*
*takes camera and starts snapping off pics.*
Yeah baby, oh Behave!

*drools*
*takes camera and starts snapping off pics.*
Yeah baby, oh Behave!

You *are* aware that I'm a guy, right? ;)

Just making sure you know what you're getting into:p :fluffle:

I'd tell him: "Enjoy it sport, you'll never get that kind of position with just your girlfiend."

I'd then show him the movie Das Boot and tell him that THIS is what REAL sex is like. :D

Snooort!

Rich

You *are* aware that I'm a guy, right? ;)

Just making sure you know what you're getting into:p :fluffle:I know alot of Japanese Girls who want to get married to Nasty Americans... You are an American right?

You *are* aware that I'm a guy, right?

Just making sure you know what you're getting into

skaladora, i was about to post the same but then thought better of it..the look on his face might have been a little more enjoyable if you'd postponed it for a post or two more..

I know alot of Japanese Girls who want to get married to Nasty Americans... You are an American right?
Nope, I'm a gay Canadian. Nothing against Japanese girls, but if you could get me a pretty Japanese bishounen, I'd be happier :p

skaladora, i was about to post the same but then thought better of it..the look on his face might have been a little more enjoyable if you'd postponed it for a post or two more..
Haha, he doesn't even seem to realize I'm attracted to guys. Weird, with me screaming it off the top of my lungs at every opportunity. :p

Nope, I'm a gay Canadian. Nothing against Japanese girls, but if you could get me a pretty Japanese bishounen, I'd be happier :p
hmmm... I'll check around if you want. ;)

oh and for your information (and sorry to spoil your fun.) I didn't bat an eye at the revelation. Rumors aside, I am not homophobic. so I'm still cool with it.

Haha, he doesn't even seem to realize I'm attracted to guys. Weird, with me screaming it off the top of my lungs at every opportunity. :p
sorry, but sexual Orientation isn't really anywhere on my "things I need to know about people" list.


Sorry if I offended BTW.

hmmm... I'll check around if you want. ;)

By all means, do! ;)


oh and for your information (and sorry to spoil your fun.) I didn't bat an eye at the revelation. Rumors aside, I am not homophobic. so I'm still cool with it.
Bah, I say. I can pull a little fun with my straight yet non-homophobic friends with comments such as those earlier. Batting an eye at the revelation the person you've been playfully flirting with is the opposing gender of what you thought isn't exactly homophobia in my book :p

sorry, but sexual Orientation isn't really anywhere on my "things I need to know about people" list.


Sorry if I offended BTW.
You don't have to be so defensive about it, it's not like I'm about to point my finger at you, scream "HOMOPHOBIA" off the top of my lungs, and send the white-coated guys after you :p

I just assumed everybody in these forums knew because I always post on all threads related to gayness. That, and Canadian politics.

Edit: Someday, Fass, my gayness will be even greater than yours! I swear it!

You don't have to be so defensive about it, it's not like I'm about to point my finger at you, scream "HOMOPHOBIA" off the top of my lungs, and send the white-coated guys after you :p

right. you leave that to me.

I just assumed everybody in these forums knew because I always post on all threads related to gayness. That, and Canadian politics.

oh, don't be shy, now. you know you manage to mount your gayness on the wall with a much broader range of topics. and we all know it.

Edit: Someday, Fass, my gayness will be even greater than yours! I swear it!

maybe, once you did more guys than your straight friend..

maybe, once you did more guys than your straight friend..Ouch! Hahahaha!

oh, don't be shy, now. you know you manage to mount your gayness on the wall with a much broader range of topics. and we all know it.

Oh, you're making me blush ;)



maybe, once you did more guys than your straight friend..
Curse you! Just rub it in, willya? :headbang:

i would assess how bad the porn was....if it was just some porn-nothing sick-then i would put it back under the matress...i'd rather my kid be inside with fake women than outside with real ones

Curse you! Just rub it in, willya?

you provide, i use. and you know you like it. but mind you, my hand is dead cold right now.

you provide, i use. and you know you like it. but mind you, my hand is dead cold right now.
:D

Oh, I don't mind. I know something that's sure to warm it up...

<.< >.>

:fluffle:

sure, but you don't want that to be defiled by a woman's hand now, no?

(and will you please not fluffle me. geez.)

sure, but you don't want that to be defiled by a woman's hand now, no?

(and will you please not fluffle me. geez.)
Oh, you're a girl? :(

And why not with the fluffles? I hug my female friends all the time.

Oh, you're a girl?

woman, yes. gladly, too.

And why not with the fluffles? I hug my female friends all the time.

in order to be truly clichée, i could say "but i don't hug men" now, but given my forum history, that would be useless.
iDirect you to the smiley thread instead.

There are very few parenting issues that can be thought about in a vacuum. If I found porn under my kid's bed, my actions would depend on other things than just "the finding." Has my son been showing a tendency to disrespect women? (could be disrespect for me but not his father, treating his sister poorly, observations about times when he has had groups of friends over that include girls, etc). I would also think about his friends, do any of them act like women are objects? I would also consider where he may have gotten the magazine and probably ask him. If an older friend purchased it for him (say he is 15 an the friend is 18) I would want to know more about this friend, as friendships this far apart in age can sometimes lead to trouble. There just seems, to me, to be so many things I would have to consider before acting that I would really only know for sure when the time comes to tackle this incident.

There are very few parenting issues that can be thought about in a vacuum. If I found porn under my kid's bed, my actions would depend on other things than just "the finding." Has my son been showing a tendency to disrespect women? (could be disrespect for me but not his father, treating his sister poorly, observations about times when he has had groups of friends over that include girls, etc). I would also think about his friends, do any of them act like women are objects? I would also consider where he may have gotten the magazine and probably ask him. If an older friend purchased it for him (say he is 15 an the friend is 18) I would want to know more about this friend, as friendships this far apart in age can sometimes lead to trouble. There just seems, to me, to be so many things I would have to consider before acting that I would really only know for sure when the time comes to tackle this incident.


To be honest, that's one thing I never quite understood:

What exactly is meant by the phrase "p0rn is objectifying women"?

P0rn generally depicts a group of people (as in 2 or more) having sex. Ok, many it can look more like gymnastic exercises than fun, but it's the general idea.
In what way does that "objectify" women? In what way does it "objectify" women more than men?

If your kid is disrespectful towards women, it's more likely that he had some bad role models for quite a while, and that he wasn't taught how to interact with women at an earlier stage. Watching p0rn is neither the cause nor even an indicator for social disfunctions like these.

And, btw, children will always be able to tell a story from reality. If they take what they see there for real life, they've got much bigger and more fundamental problems, I think ;)

P0rn generally depicts a group of people (as in 2 or more) having sex. Ok, many it can look more like gymnastic exercises than fun, but it's the general idea.
In what way does that "objectify" women? In what way does it "objectify" women more than men?

Well.. in the average porn movie it is easier to persuade a woman to have sex with you (regardless of what gender you are) than it is to blow up a doll in real life. Almost all pornwomen are portrayed as easy; and often being a sperm, dildo or tongue recepticle is in fact their only purpose in the movie.

If that is actually "objectifying" is debateable though (which is why I never use that term).

Well.. in the average porn movie it is easier to persuade a woman to have sex with you (regardless of what gender you are) than it is to blow up a doll in real life. Almost all pornwomen are portrayed as easy; and often being a sperm, dildo or tongue recepticle is in fact their only purpose in the movie.

If that is actually "objectifying" is debateable though (which is why I never use that term).

It IS a p0rn movie, after all. The same goes for men, though, one could argue that p0rn objectifies men, reduces them to their reproductive organs (at least you get to see the woman's face) and raises almost unfulfillable expectations in teenage girls watching it.

It IS a p0rn movie, after all. The same goes for men, though, one could argue that p0rn objectifies men, reduces them to their reproductive organs (at least you get to see the woman's face) and raises almost unfulfillable expectations in teenage girls watching it.


That is extactly why I said that I would react to the porn only if it were part of a behavoral pattern. It is not outrightly objectifying women, but if my son had already shown tendencies towards disrespect for women, then it could be a problem (as in, maybe, to him, women are only sexual objects or something of this nature.) I doubt this would be the case for my son, but I would never say "this is what I would definitely do" unless first examining if the porn was part of a problem. If it isn't, then there is nothing wrong with it. A lot of seemingly benign things can be a problem in a child's hands; you just have to examine it on a child by child basis.

Unless it's something like kiddy porn I'd just leave it alone. If it is something as bad as kiddy porn then Junior and I need to have a talk and perhaps Junior needs some therapy (as well as some punishment).

Id probobly put it back, and make jokes about it to the kid. If that doesnt mess him up for life nothing will ::D... can you spell dysfunctional?

Unless it's something like kiddy porn I'd just leave it alone. If it is something as bad as kiddy porn then Junior and I need to have a talk and perhaps Junior needs some therapy (as well as some punishment).

Now what if it's pictures of his teenage GF? Technically KP.

Id probobly put it back, and make jokes about it to the kid. If that doesnt mess him up for life nothing will ::D... can you spell dysfunctional?


You want creepy? After my dad got killed in an accident, we found magazines he had stolen from ME.

Now what if it's pictures of his teenage GF? Technically KP.

That is a fantastic point.

Inspired by this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=461026):

Imagine you were the parent of a teenager (girl or boy, although I think this scenarion is a bit more likely to occur with a boy) and you cleaned his room, accidentally moving the matress. You'd see some paper sticking out form underneath and pulling it out found it to be a nudie magazine, an edition of playboy or something similar. If your kid is uninventive, maybe it's just some pages out of a Victoria's Secrets catalogue ;)

How would you react to this? Would you confront your child? Would you take the p0rn away? Would you be offended?
Or would you simply smile to yourself, remeber your teens, and silently put it all back under the bed?

definitely depends on the type of porno. Any chance there are pics of Cabra West in said porno??

?

Well, I found... not quite porn, but erotic fiction in my kids bedroom... it was all about a 12 yr old girl and her 14 yr old sister... i didnt know WHAT to do:confused:

burn it

burn it

What's wrong with just throwing it away?

What's wrong with just throwing it away?
more impact and distoys the filth :sniper: