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if i ran for presidint of your country would you vote for me?
feel free to ask questions

What's your prefered tax system?

no income tax

What ideology do you identify with? What reforms or laws would you enact? What are your views on publicly funded healthcare, social security, and welfare.

How would you persecute the "war on terrorism"?

[QUOTE='[NS]Trans-human']What ideology do you identify with? What reforms or laws would you enact? What are your views on publicly funded healthcare, social security, and welfare.QUOTE]
What ideology do you identify with?
Iam a christion, but i try to be open mided about what other people think and i am willing to let them beileve what they want, i dont think that its my job to tell people waht they can and cant think.

What reforms or laws would you enact?
not sure, see below i guess... i would also add the option of night school to public ed.

What are your views on publicly funded healthcare, social security, and welfare?
i think that these programs should be abolished. heathcare should be a private thing,other wise the Gov. can obtain to much controle over socioty.
SS, should not be what it is to day. SS should be like a bank account, you put mony in and when you retir you get it back.
welfare is a joke and is a useless wast of money

How would you persecute the "war on terrorism"?
as of today? or if i was starting it?

no income tax

How would you collect taxes then?

as of today? or if i was starting it?
Well, I assume you're American, so you'd be PotUS. I also assume you're talking about the next US elections - so I'd ask you what your plans are for the next 5-10 years regarding Islamist Terrorism.

As for Christians and Welfare...I always found it interesting that so many Christians will essentially disregard the issue of doing good by ones neighbour (an inherently un-capitalistic idea in a way) and the point about rich people going to heaven (again, not what the market condones) and instead go down the road fo the free-marketeer quasi-libertarian.
Must just have to do with the whole "Republicans like us, so we like Republicans!" idea.

What ideology do you identify with? What reforms or laws would you enact? What are your views on publicly funded healthcare, social security, and welfare.QUOTE]
What ideology do you identify with?
Iam a christion, but i try to be open mided about what other people think and i am willing to let them beileve what they want, i dont think that its my job to tell people waht they can and cant think.

What reforms or laws would you enact?
not sure, see below i guess... i would also add the option of night school to public ed.

What are your views on publicly funded healthcare, social security, and welfare?
i think that these programs should be abolished. heathcare should be a private thing,other wise the Gov. can obtain to much controle over socioty.
SS, should not be what it is to day. SS should be like a bank account, you put mony in and when you retir you get it back.
welfare is a joke and is a useless wast of money

You seem to oppose state-sponsored healthcare, social security and welfare, yet you implicitly support public education. Why?

Iam a christion, but i try to be open mided about what other people think and i am willing to let them beileve what they want, i dont think that its my job to tell people waht they can and cant think.

I meant political ideology(such as conservative, liberal, libertarian, socialist, etc) not your religion. I'm guessing libertarian. Am I right?

How would you collect taxes then?
tax would be collected in the forms of terrifs on all imported goods.

Trans-human']I'm guessing libertarian. Am I right?
tax would be collected in the forms of terrifs on all imported goods.
No. :p

tax would be collected in the forms of terrifs on all imported goods.
Wouldn't this protectionism hurt us when other countries raise their tariffs on our products in retribution?

No. :p

He could still be libertarian. I'm libertarian and I might be willing to tolerate tariffs if it meant no more income tax, although it kind of depends on how high the tariffs are.

You seem to oppose state-sponsored healthcare, social security and welfare, yet you implicitly support public education. Why?
as of right now in our country,the US, not every one can afford privet education. also in many low income familys teens have to chouse between school and working to support there familys. if they could work durring the day, 9-4 and then attend school from say 5 -10. they would be able to get better jobs and there for help break the cycle of poverty.
in the case of public ed. i would thoe that over the core of a few years the gov. would step aside and let the comunitys be in charge of there schools. in my opinion the Gov. has no right to say what can and can not be tought to our students

Trans-human']I meant political ideology(such as conservative, liberal, libertarian, socialist, etc) not your religion. I'm guessing libertarian. Am I right?
as of right now iam not associated with a perticular party.

He could still be libertarian. I'm libertarian and I might be willing to tolerate tariffs if it meant no more income tax, although it kind of depends on how high the tariffs are.
Well, I don't really see how you can justify that at all, other than with blind patriotism.
Being libertarian means to have a distrust of the expanse of government, and the government fiddling in international trade is no better than the government fiddling in domestic trade. Plus, being a consequent libertarian would also mean to see the people of the world as one people, with governments keeping them apart - and in that way, tariffs would be nothing more than just another ploy to keep people hostile to each other so that they will give up their freedoms in exchange for safety from foreigners.

Trans-human']Wouldn't this protectionism hurt us when other countries raise their tariffs on our products in retribution?
maby this country needs to start making the things it needs again insted of oursorcing everything

I'll repeat my question: What would you do with regards to the "War on Terrorism" if you were elected today?

What about Gay Rights, Religious subject matters in Public Schools and the "War on Drugs"?

i would thoe that over the core of a few years the gov. would step aside and let the comunitys be in charge of there schools. in my opinion the Gov. has no right to say what can and can not be tought to our students

So who does?

Well, I don't really see how you can justify that at all, other than with blind patriotism.
Being libertarian means to have a distrust of the expanse of government, and the government fiddling in international trade is no better than the government fiddling in domestic trade. Plus, being a consequent libertarian would also mean to see the people of the world as one people, with governments keeping them apart - and in that way, tariffs would be nothing more than just another ploy to keep people hostile to each other so that they will give up their freedoms in exchange for safety from foreigners.

Make no mistake: I hate tariffs. My point was that I would be willing to tolerate them if income tax was abolished and if the tariffs were kept fairly low.

Well, I assume you're American, so you'd be PotUS. I also assume you're talking about the next US elections - so I'd ask you what your plans are for the next 5-10 years regarding Islamist Terrorism.

As for Christians and Welfare...I always found it interesting that so many Christians will essentially disregard the issue of doing good by ones neighbour (an inherently un-capitalistic idea in a way) and the point about rich people going to heaven (again, not what the market condones) and instead go down the road fo the free-marketeer quasi-libertarian.
Must just have to do with the whole "Republicans like us, so we like Republicans!" idea.
about christians and welfare... its not the Gov. job to do welfare, its the peoples

about the War, i would keep some troops there untill Iraq had a sable Gov. of its own. i would drop airport security leves back to what they were pre9-11.
i would not ask my people to give up there freedoms in return for ther gov. telling them what they may and may not have.

So who does?
the kids parents... its there kid not the gov's

No.
I'm happy with our Prime Minister. Would be cool if you were president of another country though.
"Yiiip, well it all started on NationStates!"

if i ran for presidint of your country would you vote for me?
feel free to ask questionsprobably not, and because of two points.

the second is that I really don't know your stand on the issues, as well as who your opponent would be and his/her qualifications.

the first is that I like you too much to participate in anything that would land such a position where you cannot do anything right.

the kids parents... its there kid not the gov's

Parents can already teach their children whatever they want.

Are you suggesting universal homeschooling?

about christians and welfare... its not the Gov. job to do welfare, its the peoples
Well, I'd argue that people aren't that nice, but that's a different matter.
So how high would you put economic growth on the list of priorities in your government?
What about income equality? Should there be a few very rich and a lot of very poor people?

i would drop airport security leves back to what they were pre9-11.
Strange, airport security is pretty much the only thing that was done since then that I can agree with...the air marshalls were a good idea.

i would not ask my people to give up there freedoms in return for ther gov. telling them what they may and may not have.
So no wiretaps, no secret detention and no Gitmo Camp?
What would be your foreign policy in general? Towards the UN, the EU, China, Israel, Pakistan etc?

I'll repeat my question: What would you do with regards to the "War on Terrorism" if you were elected today?

What about Gay Rights, Religious subject matters in Public Schools and the "War on Drugs"?
gay rights:
thats hard, iam not sure, personaly... i think that being gay is a sin but so is merdering, they are both the same in Gods eyes. but i know that it is not my place to judge someone and say the one sin is greater than another. i know that i have sined and that iam no any better or worse than a gay person.

war on drugs: i would end it.

religion in public schools.... let the comunitys deal with it.

gay rights:
thats hard, iam not sure, personaly... i think that being gay is a sin but so is merdering, they are both the same in Gods eyes. but i know that it is not my place to judge someone and say the one sin is greater than another. i know that i have sined and that iam no any better or worse than a gay person.
So can they get married? In a church?
If one of them dies, will the other get what's left behind, as is the case with heterosexual couples?

As for the gay = murder thing...well, if you're going to make policy based on that sort of thing, I'd probably not vote for you.

Parents can already teach their children whatever they want.

Are you suggesting universal homeschooling?
i sugjusting that the gov should not be able to controle what is tought in schools... its cencorship, and cencorship leads to ignorance, and causes a country to fail

So can they get married? In a church?
If one of them dies, will the other get what's left behind, as is the case with heterosexual couples?

As for the gay = murder thing...well, if you're going to make policy based on that sort of thing, I'd probably not vote for you.

its not the gov's deal, if a church will marry them they can
yes they would have the same leagal rights as hetrosexual couples


as for the gay= murder thing..... In Gods eyes they are both sin,in my opinion if you kill some one you should die. if your gay i dont really care.
it was a bad example i guess

its not the gov's deal, if a church will marry them they can
yes they would have the same leagal rights as hetrosexual couples


as for the gay= murder thing..... In Gods eyes they are both sin,in my opinion if you kill some one you should die. if your gay i dont really care.
it was a bad example i guess
So you would enforce death penalty?

as for the gay= murder thing..... In Gods eyes they are both sin,in my opinion if you kill some one you should die. if your gay i dont really care.
it was a bad example i guess

A better example might have been "The Bible forbids homosexuality, but it also forbids lust, and there is no bloody way I'm going to all the trouble of banning that."

So you would enforce death penalty?
yes

yes
Blah.
No some more. Maybe even not for another country.

A better example might have been "The Bible forbids homosexuality, but it also forbids lust, and there is no bloody way I'm going to all the trouble of banning that."
lust is a personal matter, its not something that a gov can change

Blah.
No some more. Maybe even not for another country.

:confused:

:confused:
I don't like death penalty. I would rather a world without it. So I retract my earlier statement about perhaps you being good for another country :)

Well, I'd argue that people aren't that nice, but that's a different matter.
So how high would you put economic growth on the list of priorities in your government?
What about income equality? Should there be a few very rich and a lot of very poor people?


Strange, airport security is pretty much the only thing that was done since then that I can agree with...the air marshalls were a good idea.


So no wiretaps, no secret detention and no Gitmo Camp?
What would be your foreign policy in general? Towards the UN, the EU, China, Israel, Pakistan etc?
economic growth: it would be up there
income equality: no way it would never work

foren policy: un...not sure
eu.. we arnt europians
china: if they wanted to import stuff in to our country it would have a terrif on it just like any thing elce
Israel: they are one of our allies
packistan: not my country i dont care what they do unless it is an obvios and direct threat

I don't like death penalty. I would rather a world without it. So I retract my earlier statement about perhaps you being good for another country :)
if would be nice to live in a world that did not need such a thing but unfourtionatly thats not the world we live in:(

its not the gov's deal, if a church will marry them they can
yes they would have the same leagal rights as hetrosexual couples


as for the gay= murder thing..... In Gods eyes they are both sin,in my opinion if you kill some one you should die. if your gay i dont really care.
it was a bad example i guess

Sorry, can't let this slide anymore.

I'm a Catholic, raised in some of the most expensive and illustrious Catholic schools in Australia. This is just complete bullshit right here. It is people like Antikythera, that give Christians a bad name, and for that, I am truly sorry.

How, Antikythera, can you possibly even REMOTELY know what God considers to be 'right' or 'wrong and what he (or she), thusly, considers to be 'sin'. You can't. Don't go quoting the Bible either. It is not 'God's word', but the writings of many of His followers, slanted in one way or another with their own intentions and thoughts.

I can't take this anymore, honestly, it is Christians like this that honestly make me wonder...

I'm a proud Catholic, don't get me wrong - I'll be singing 'Sub Tuum' with the next Marist boy or girl, but this has gone on for too long on these boards. If you're Christian, it's great, but THINK... for the love of all things Holy, THINK BEFORE YOU POST.

i sugjusting that the gov should not be able to controle what is tought in schools... its cencorship, and cencorship leads to ignorance, and causes a country to fail

Hence my earlier question, "so who does."

Your answer was "parents," so the logical conclusion would be you are in favor of universal homeschooling.

If that is not the case, what do you advocate?

Sorry, can't let this slide anymore.

I'm a Catholic, raised in some of the most expensive and illustrious Catholic schools in Australia. This is just complete bullshit right here. It is people like Antikythera, that give Christians a bad name, and for that, I am truly sorry.

How, Antikythera, can you possibly even REMOTELY know what God considers to be 'right' or 'wrong and what he (or she), thusly, considers to be 'sin'. You can't. Don't go quoting the Bible either. It is not 'God's word', but the writings of many of His followers, slanted in one way or another with their own intentions and thoughts.

I can't take this anymore, honestly, it is Christians like this that honestly make me wonder...

I'm a proud Catholic, don't get me wrong - I'll be singing 'Sub Tuum' with the next Marist boy or girl, but this has gone on for too long on these boards. If you're Christian, it's great, but THINK... for the love of all things Holy, THINK BEFORE YOU POST.
i am sorry that i have offened/upset you. i posted this thread as a way to see if i do belive certian things, it was not my intention to offend any one.
i under stand if you do not blieve what i do, in fact its ok with me if you do not. but i would like to ask you one thing, be for you go making judements as to the type of christion that iam, even if in your eyes iam not a good christion, i ask that you get to really know who iam and why i say the things that i do.

Sorry, can't let this slide anymore.

I'm a Catholic, raised in some of the most expensive and illustrious Catholic schools in Australia. This is just complete bullshit right here. It is people like Antikythera, that give Christians a bad name, and for that, I am truly sorry.

How, Antikythera, can you possibly even REMOTELY know what God considers to be 'right' or 'wrong and what he (or she), thusly, considers to be 'sin'. You can't. Don't go quoting the Bible either. It is not 'God's word', but the writings of many of His followers, slanted in one way or another with their own intentions and thoughts.

I can't take this anymore, honestly, it is Christians like this that honestly make me wonder...

I'm a proud Catholic, don't get me wrong - I'll be singing 'Sub Tuum' with the next Marist boy or girl, but this has gone on for too long on these boards. If you're Christian, it's great, but THINK... for the love of all things Holy, THINK BEFORE YOU POST.

Tis a feeble brand of Christianity that forbids the quoting of the Bible.

Hence my earlier question, "so who does."

Your answer was "parents," so the logical conclusion would be you are in favor of universal homeschooling.

If that is not the case, what do you advocate?
privet education.
i relise that this is not an option for every one. but i think that if the gov. was not so envoved with ed. it would be better for our country

privet education.
i relise that this is not an option for every one. but i think that if the gov. was not so envoved with ed. it would be better for our country

Yes. Let's just stop preventing religious nutjobs from teaching theocracy.

I wouldn't vote for you even if hell froze over.

You have too many typos. I'd vote for a psychotic bastard before I voted for someone with so many spelling/grammatical errors.

Stalin, check.

Yes. Let's just stop preventing religious nutjobs from teaching theocracy.

I wouldn't vote for you even if hell froze over.
this is a free country who is the gov to say what can and can not be tought?

Yes. Let's just stop preventing religious nutjobs from teaching theocracy.

People are trying to keep religious nutjobs from teaching theocracy? Wouldn't that be in full violation of both freedom of speech and freedom of religion?

People are trying to keep religious nutjobs from teaching theocracy? Wouldn't that be in full violation of both freedom of speech and freedom of religion?
yep...welcome to the US in 2005:(

People are trying to keep religious nutjobs from teaching theocracy? Wouldn't that be in full violation of both freedom of speech and freedom of religion?

What the fuck happened to Separation of Church and State, hmm?

this is a free country who is the gov to say what can and can not be tought?

I'm not saying that children shouldn't have the option to be taught about religion. I'm saying that theology shouldn't be forced upon them, and you seem to be just fine with letting it slide.

Yeah, that's just wonderful. If I happen to be living in that country, don't be surprised if I send my son to school with a solid wood bat.

I'm not saying that children shouldn't have the option to be taught about religion. I'm saying that theology shouldn't be forced upon them, and you seem to be just fine with letting it slide.

Yeah, that's just wonderful. If I happen to be living in that country, don't be surprised if I send my son to school with a solid wood bat.

i agree, religon should not be forced on anyone. but denying some one the option, thats not ok.

i agree, religon should not be forced on anyone. but denying some one the option, thats not ok.

I never said I wanted to deny anybody the option. I just expressed my opinion on religion being shoved down kids' throats be nutty religious teachers.

I never said I wanted to deny anybody the option. I just expressed my opinion on religion being shoved down kids' throats be nutty religious teachers.
this is new to me, i was under the impression that you could not teach religion in a public school

this is new to me, i was under the impression that you could not teach religion in a public school

Man, I really wanna flame the fuck out of you now. :p

I stated my thoughts clearly and precisely. It's a shame that you obviously didn't realise that.

Man, I really wanna flame the fuck out of you now. :p

I stated my thoughts clearly and precisely. It's a shame that you obviously didn't realise that.
look its 2:30 in the morning my brain is not running at top speed, so iam sorry if i missed something....i really dont care if you do flame me.

look its 2:30 in the morning my brain is not running at top speed, so iam sorry if i missed something....i really dont care if you do flame me.

Well I do, 'cause I'll get banned! :p

And yeah, my brain stops functioning correctly when I'm tired. It gets difficult to focus.

Well I do, 'cause I'll get banned! :p

And yeah, my brain stops functioning correctly when I'm tired. It gets difficult to focus.
yep.....especialy on politics and proper spelling and grammer:)

if i ran for presidint of your country would you vote for me?
feel free to ask questionsAfter reading the whole thread, obviously no.

-snip-
Well, I'll summarise what you said, and I'll decide whether I'd vote for you.

No Income Tax, Privatising Healthcare, Abolishing Welfare, Tariffs, Drop Airport Security, Gay = Sin, No Division of Church and State in Public Schools, Pro Death Penalty: :mad:

Making the Pension System simpler, with people paying on their own SS Account, Keep troops in Iraq until stability is achieved, No cutting liberties (presumably no spying on own people etc), Gay Rights are granted, End "War on Drugs": :)

Private vs Public Education, Foreign Policy: :confused:

So all in all, I'd have to say that I wouldn't vote for you, because in pretty much all the issues you're diametrically opposed to me, although you do have some good aspects in your politics.

if i ran for presidint of your country would you vote for me?
feel free to ask questions

After reading the first few answers, definitely no.

Also, I wouldn't vote for a person with such obvious difficulties in spelling. But that's just me and my faible for language...

After reading the first few answers, definitely no.

Also, I wouldn't vote for a person with such obvious difficulties in spelling. But that's just me and my faible for language...

I think Anti isn't native to the United States(English as a second language). It would explain the horrendous spelling. So the question of voting for him/her for president is moot.

if i ran for presidint of your country would you vote for me?
feel free to ask questions

no, libertarianism and formal xtianity are antiquated thought-dreams

but have a nice day.

i sugjusting that the gov should not be able to controle what is tought in schools... its cencorship, and cencorship leads to ignorance, and causes a country to fail

I'm guessing you're one of the people who wanted ID taught in science classes, is this a fair assumption?

Taken from Neo Leonstein's summary

No Income Tax, no
Privatising Healthcare, never
Abolishing Welfare, Tariffs, never
Drop Airport Security, not really
Gay = Sin, no
No Division of Church and State in Public Schools, never
Pro Death Penalty: Never ever ever
Making the Pension System simpler, with people paying on their own SS Account, no
Keep troops in Iraq until stability is achieved, YES!! Finally something I agree with!!!
No cutting liberties (presumably no spying on own people etc), Yes again!!!
Gay Rights are granted, Yes!
End "War on Drugs" Meh

So in conclusion, I would never vote for you unless Hitler was the alterative candidate.

where is the "not even if there was no one else running" catagory?

where is the "not even if there was no one else running" catagory?

It's called 'no'.:)