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I Just Watched The Time Cop Movies..... Time Travel Is Friggin' Confusing! Can Someone Explain It To Me, And If You Can't, Please, Agree With Me, IT'S FRIGGIN CONFUSING!

Time travel is simple. It is how I get to work everyday.

Time travel is simple. It is how I get to work everyday.

What? Your Just Confusing Me Even More! EVIL MONKEY!

I Just Watched The Time Cop Movies..... Time Travel Is Friggin' Confusing! Can Someone Explain It To Me, And If You Can't, Please, Agree With Me, IT'S FRIGGIN CONFUSING!
Hey, you too can travel through time. I manage it myself at a rate of 1440 minutes per day.

I Just Watched The Time Cop Movies..... Time Travel Is Friggin' Confusing! Can Someone Explain It To Me, And If You Can't, Please, Agree With Me, IT'S FRIGGIN CONFUSING!
wait...


wait for it...


wait...


just a couple Moments longer...



There... you just 'traveled' a couple of seconds into the future.

unfortunatly, it's a one way trip.

Hey, you too can travel through time. I manage it myself at a rate of 1440 minutes per day.

Agh! Stop Confusing Me People! EVIL MONKIES ALL AROUND!

No, Not THAT Kind Of Time Travel. The One Where It's NOT A One Way Trip. Jeez People, Watch More Time Cop Movies!

Its all conjecture. so time travel can only really be explained within the framework of the author's meaning of it

For example paradoxes ... as presented in lets say exhaultent by Stephen Baxter paradoxes are not that big of deal as the timestream has the ability to repair small paradoxes by itself

Does Every Word Really Need A Capital Letter? Or Is That Just Something Time Travel Related?

*prays to wikipedia gods* (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel)

Does Every Word Really Need A Capital Letter? Or Is That Just Something Time Travel Related?

No, I Just Like Typing With Everyword Capitalized

Grandfather paradox: If you went back in time and shot your own grandfather, you wouldn't have been born to have done it.

Grandfather paradox: If you went back in time and shot your own grandfather, you wouldn't have been born to have done it.
Not a paradox if you are dealing with multipul timelines rather then a singular one

though it was easy just ask the guy with the long scarf and eating jelly babies how to its done

No, I Just Like Typing With Everyword Capitalized

WhY?

Well, I Suppose Time Travel In Itself IS A Paradox. But, What If We Find A Way To Perform Time Travel? Will The Space Time Contium Fold In On Its Self? Or Something Of The Other?

though it was easy just ask the guy with the long scarf and eating jelly babies how to its done

Oooh... difficult choice.... Tom IS the obvious candidate, but I was something of a Colin fan, too....

WhY?
Because No One Else Does. It Makes Me Unique. And Its Fun!

Well, I Suppose Time Travel In Itself IS A Paradox. But, What If We Find A Way To Perform Time Travel? Will The Space Time Contium Fold In On Its Self? Or Something Of The Other?
Depends ... singular or multy thread theory?

Not a paradox if you are dealing with multipul timelines rather then a singular one

Doubt There Are Multiple Timelines, Though Time Travel MIGHT Mean Going To Another Dimension... WAIT! I HAVE DEVELOPED A THEORY! WILL COME IN NEXT POST!

So, Basil, if I travel back to 1969 and I was frozen in 1967, I could go look at my frozen self. But, if I'm still frozen in 1967, how could I have been unthawed in the 90's and traveled back to the Sixties? [goes cross-eyed] Oh, no, I've gone cross-eyed.
:D

The common rationale is that paradoxes cannot happen...

If you went back in time to kill your own grandfather, you'd be unable to do it.... maybe you couldn't find him... maybe your gun or whatever would fail to work.

Or, of course, you'd kill him... but it would turn out that THAT guy wasn't actually your grandfather.

Indeed, you'd shoot the guy, quickly bed that cute blonde you met, then hype off to the future... only to find out that 'cute blonde' was your grandmother...

Doubt There Are Multiple Timelines, Though Time Travel MIGHT Mean Going To Another Dimension... WAIT! I HAVE DEVELOPED A THEORY! WILL COME IN NEXT POST!
What do you base your theory off of?

For Every Second Passed, A New Dimension Is Created Which Starts At The Beginning Of The Universe. When You Time Travel, You Go To The Dimension In Which That Time Is Still Going On. So, If You Affect Something In That Dimension, Since It Is A Seperate Dimension, It Will NOT Affect Your Dimension. I Believe I Have Just Answered My Own Question. Ahh Well, Now We Can Debate Time Travel Theories!

Wait, Screw The "Every Second" It's Most Probably Every Smallest Unit Of Time Possible. Damn There Are Alot Of Different Dimensions Out There, Possibly Going Into The Quintillions, Maybe More!

All this time travel talk reminds me of an ol' classic comic-strip: Hehehe (http://www.angryflower.com/goinaf.gif).

For Every Second Passed, A New Dimension Is Created Which Starts At The Beginning Of The Universe. When You Time Travel, You Go To The Dimension In Which That Time Is Still Going On. So, If You Affect Something In That Dimension, Since It Is A Seperate Dimension, It Will NOT Affect Your Dimension. I Believe I Have Just Answered My Own Question. Ahh Well, Now We Can Debate Time Travel Theories!
Psst your theory sounds an awfull lot like multi thread theory

Where at every decision interval a seperate timeline is created therefor you travel latteraly rather then strait up and down the line

For Every Second Passed, A New Dimension Is Created Which Starts At The Beginning Of The Universe. When You Time Travel, You Go To The Dimension In Which That Time Is Still Going On. So, If You Affect Something In That Dimension, Since It Is A Seperate Dimension, It Will NOT Affect Your Dimension. I Believe I Have Just Answered My Own Question. Ahh Well, Now We Can Debate Time Travel Theories!

Why every "second"?

The common rationale is that paradoxes cannot happen...

If you went back in time to kill your own grandfather, you'd be unable to do it.... maybe you couldn't find him... maybe your gun or whatever would fail to work.

Or, of course, you'd kill him... but it would turn out that THAT guy wasn't actually your grandfather.

Indeed, you'd shoot the guy, quickly bed that cute blonde you met, then hype off to the future... only to find out that 'cute blonde' was your grandmother...

It'd be quite the mindfuck to be your own grandfather.

Psst your theory sounds an awfull lot like multi thread theory

Where at every decision interval a seperate timeline is created therefor you travel latteraly rather then strait up and down the line

People Make Decisions Alot, For Example, I Decide Every Time I Type A Letter, Whether Or Not A I Want To Put Something Entirely Different On This Post, Or Just Go And Make A Nice Piece Of Toast! So That Theory Is Crap, Since There Is No Way To Be Able To Navigate. Its Possible, But You'd Have To List All The Decisions Ever Made In The Timeline.

http://www.flashplayer.com/animation/timefight.html

It'd be quite the mindfuck to be your own grandfather.

Ever watched Futurama?

It'd be quite the mindfuck to be your own grandfather.

I Think You'd Be Slightly Retarded If You Were Your Own Grandfather. Whole "Genes" Thing.

It'd be quite the mindfuck to be your own grandfather.
Talk about having a twisted family tree... O.o wow. It boggles the mind.

Time Travel is impossible as of now. Most people assume that we will be able to go back in time to say, shoot Hitler and prevent the Holocaust. Well, two reasons why this would never happen.

1.) If you are using Einstein, it is IMPOSSIBLE to travel BACKWARDS OR FORWARDS in time. One is merely able to slow down time. If you travel at say, 99% the speed of light, and you travel for 2 days, everyone else has travelled 10 years!!! To you, you have been gone 2 days, while to everyone else you have been gone 10 years. You really aren't "travelling" in time, just slowing it down.

2.) Wormholes: Steven Hawkings put it best: A proposed time-travel machine using a wormhole would (hypothetically) work something like this: A wormhole is created somehow by some futuristic means. One end of the wormhole is accelerated to nearly the speed of light (it is IMPOSSIBLE to travel the speed of light. Maybe 99.9999%, but never 100%), perhaps with an advanced spaceship, and then brought back to the point of origin. Due to time dilation, the accelerated end of the wormhole has now experienced less subjective passage of time than the stationary end. An object that goes into the stationary end would come out of the other end in the past relative to the time when it enters. One significant limitation of such a time machine is that it is only possible to go as far back in time as the initial creation of the machine; in essence, it is more of a path through time than it is a device that itself moves through time, and it would not allow the technology itself to be moved backwards in time. For example, if the wormhole was created in 2025, you could not go back to 1943 and assassinate Hitler. Steven Hawkings said this: a time machine will be built someday, but has not yet been built, so the tourists from the future cannot reach this far back in time( circa 2005).

People Make Decisions Alot, For Example, I Decide Every Time I Type A Letter, Whether Or Not A I Want To Put Something Entirely Different On This Post, Or Just Go And Make A Nice Piece Of Toast! So That Theory Is Crap, Since There Is No Way To Be Able To Navigate. Its Possible, But You'd Have To List All The Decisions Ever Made In The Timeline.
Correct ... no one said it would be easy to time travel

But to be fair if you were only going to gain knoledge then the little decisions would not be the ones that you would have to wory about

Time Travel is impossible as of now. Most people assume that we will be able to go back in time to say, shoot Hitler and prevent the Holocaust. Well, two reasons why this would never happen.

1.) If you are using Einstein, it is IMPOSSIBLE to travel BACKWARDS OR FORWARDS in time. One is merely able to slow down time. If you travel at say, 99% the speed of light, and you travel for 2 days, everyone else has travelled 10 years!!! To you, you have been gone 2 days, while to everyone else you have been gone 10 years. You really aren't "travelling" in time, just slowing it down.

2.) Wormholes: Steven Hawkings put it best: A proposed time-travel machine using a wormhole would (hypothetically) work something like this: A wormhole is created somehow by some futuristic means. One end of the wormhole is accelerated to nearly the speed of light (it is IMPOSSIBLE to travel the speed of light. Maybe 99.9999%, but never 100%), perhaps with an advanced spaceship, and then brought back to the point of origin. Due to time dilation, the accelerated end of the wormhole has now experienced less subjective passage of time than the stationary end. An object that goes into the stationary end would come out of the other end in the past relative to the time when it enters. One significant limitation of such a time machine is that it is only possible to go as far back in time as the initial creation of the machine; in essence, it is more of a path through time than it is a device that itself moves through time, and it would not allow the technology itself to be moved backwards in time. For example, if the wormhole was created in 2025, you could not go back to 1943 and assassinate Hitler. Steven Hawkings said this: a time machine will be built someday, but has not yet been built, so the tourists from the future cannot reach this far back in time( circa 2005).

WE might not have built one, but perhaps some oher starfaring race has. So all we need to do is borrow their time tunnel and set up our own in the past. :)

There is also the version of time travel from the novel, 'Timeline' where time travel is actually a form of interdimensional travel.

WE might not have built one, but perhaps some oher starfaring race has. So all we need to do is borrow their time tunnel and set up our own in the past. :)

There is also the version of time travel from the novel, 'Timeline' where time travel is actually a form of interdimensional travel.
Yes, But If Someone From The Future Set Up A Time Machine After Time Traveling Back, Then There Would Already Be One On Earth! Confusion Is Fun! :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Yes, But If Someone From The Future Set Up A Time Machine After Time Traveling Back, Then There Would Already Be One On Earth! Confusion Is Fun! :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Maybe there WAS one on Earth but it was destroyed somehow. Or delibereately deactivated.

http://www.fartoosilly.co.uk/

Watch The Complicated Time Travel Made Easy Series! Confusion IS Fun!

1.) If you are using Einstein, it is IMPOSSIBLE to travel BACKWARDS OR FORWARDS in time. One is merely able to slow down time. If you travel at say, 99% the speed of light, and you travel for 2 days, everyone else has travelled 10 years!!! To you, you have been gone 2 days, while to everyone else you have been gone 10 years. You really aren't "travelling" in time, just slowing it down.

For all practical purposes that is the same thing though. You step in a timemachine - a small amount of time passes for you, a big amount for the rest of the universe. How this is actually accomplished is irrelevant.

In other words: timetravel into the distant future is theoretically possible; you can just never come back.