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The majority of you seem to hold the unreasonable belief that voicing your opinion has some effect on the issue complained about.

If you would put even a fraction of the effort that you normally spend digging through propagandas on actually researching the issues, people who know what is going on would become readily apparent to you, as opposed to only the people who are as lazy as you, and then maybe you could post to a forum that actually means something will get done.

Further, if you accept things for face value, especially when they are derived and/or contrived by corporate media outlets, you really are just too gullible to be making decisions about your own welfare, and probably don't deserve any freedoms or liberties at all since you would only use them to become even more lazy and delusional.

Moreover, the people with enough motivation to actually perform research on the issues and find a way to do something about them usually don't have time to explain it all to you. Worse, if even half the truth about the issues was knowledge that the public could easily find, it doesn't matter at all what government is in charge, there would be constant revolution, and nobody wants that.

It takes a very disciplined outlook to actually face an issue and find a solution. The very fiber of society is built from the apathy of followers, and without followers, nobody can lead.

The USA already is suffering from an overpopulation of delusional leadership. Luckily for us, you don't have to be born on US soil for any position but President, which is only a figurehead obligation to begin with. The USA is not an autonomous government, and never was intended to be one. The fact that it's the most desirable country in the world to live in is the entire reason for our success in any endeavor, but it's also based on the fact that we're comprised of the oppressed ignorant peoples of everywhere that sucks real bad. The people immigrating from suckrealbad-land don't actually understand why it's good here, they're mostly chasing a dream of better-than-horrible, which is exactly what they find when they get here.

Those untrained ignorant refugees from, usually dictatorships, don't immediately adjust to a mindset condusive to democracy. A long time ago, it happened that such ignorance became more common than educated interest in society. This is why Roosevelt spent so long in office, and was nearly elected KING of the USA. Nobody gave two turds about democracy anymore, and not much has really changed since then except that ignorance is now freely distributed in more forms than just cocaine and moonshine between shifts in the coal mines.

On top of everything else, there's a genuine Nazi presence here in the USA that has been slowly and surely increasing in power over the last 60-70 years, waiting for its chance to once again dominate all the people of the world under their psychotically self-destructive philosophies. They are methodical and efficient, and more patient than any reasonable person would ever be willing.The policies that they can be attributed are such things as affirmative action, which, at first glance seems like it would go directly against their agenda. But in practice, affirmative action actually corrodes the value of experience in the workplace and replaces it with ironic inefficiency while simultaneously granting a provision that is otherwise not even seen for the insult to minorities that it genunely is.

Another major propaganda technique that seems to have worked in the Nazis favor is the irrationally negative reaction that the majority now have to even the mention of Adolh Hitler. It's extremely important to discuss the horrible atrocities of the past, and understand them, or else you're going to force them to happen again. In making it impossible to discuss Hitler's tactics and methods during WW2, and by jumping all over anyone who attempts to have such a discussion, you're preventing any understanding of those events and hastening a repeat. The nation of free speech is crippled by an inability to make any damn sense.

Nobody that lived during those times is even alive to talk about it any more, and the general trend for people who were never involved in an event to take offense to other people who were also not involved, re: black people pretending to be pissed off about slavery 200 years before they were born, re: jews who refuse to withstand any discussiong about the german holocaust, re:hippies that refuse to talk about Viet Nam, re:environmentalists that didn't do anything when Bush sold all the national parks to Wal-Mart, the list is getting too long too fast.... all of this GARBAGE only promotes a further removal of your rights as they were established DURING those times of crisis.

So either get off your lazy butt and go take part in your governmental system, or be an idiot and shut up. I mean the original greek meaning of idiot, not the abused slang version currently most commonly in circulation. Idiot originally meant a non-participating member of democratic society.

You are lazy.

"The only form oc control that's real is self-control. The rest is illusion." :gundge: :headbang: :sniper: :fluffle:

Wow, that was a boring ass preachy post that makes random generalizations while mentioning obvious truths to sound like it is making a new and interesting point. Kudos on the shit.

Yep! :D I'm even too lazy to read all of your post.

Hey, that's why I never actually contribute!
Furthermore,






Wang.

And you are pedantic, long-winded and full of shit...we all have our crosses to bear.

But the question remains: what should I eat for lunch?

Yay, revolution:D

But the question remains: what should I eat for lunch?
not beef, that's what's for dinner.

But the question remains: what should I eat for lunch?

Pop tarts obviously. Little effort and awesome taste, the lazy man's staple diet.

if you did any research you would know that this is a gaming site where people come to enjoy themselves in their off time.

having off time doesnt make one lazy does it?

Pop tarts obviously. Little effort and awesome taste, the lazy man's staple diet.
I ran out and im too lazy to go to the store. I think maybe toast.

The majority of you seem to hold the unreasonable belief that voicing your opinion has some effect on the issue complained about.
right back at you:D

I ran out and im too lazy to go to the store. I think maybe toast.

Just go with plain bread, less effort. :p

But the question remains: what should I eat for lunch?

I would suggest a nice steak some fries and a cold beer.

Blah blah blah...

It's extremely important to discuss the horrible atrocities of the past, and understand them, or else you're going to force them to happen again. In making it impossible to discuss Hitler's tactics and methods during WW2, ...

Blah blah blah

OK, fine, have it your way. If you know so much, do you know, for example, Hitler's position on gun control? Or on abortion, or euthinasia?

Nobody that lived during those times is even alive to talk about it any more

Uh huh. Riight. Because my grandmother, for instance, is really about 40 years younger than she says she is and obviously couldn't remember these things, even though she was plenty old enough. It's not like it was two hundred years ago, y'know. There are plenty of people around who can talk about WW2. Get off YOUR lazy ass and go find them!

Real men eat Hot Pockets. Are you man enough?

It wasn't laziness that stopped me from reading that. It was that I scrolled down to see how long it was, and noticed you used these smilies: :gundge: :headbang: :sniper: :fluffle:
That's enough reason to stop me from reading it.

Pop tarts obviously. Little effort and awesome taste, the lazy man's staple diet.

Oh no, go for some good boxed Mac'n'Cheese. I've got some boxes up there tempting me.

So ehh, why should we participate in the government if we want to make a change?
Do you really think you can change it from the inside?
.....and they call anarchists idealists.

That statement was like a maths lesson - I got to the end and only remembered 2 words.

For those of you who are still disciplined enough to have read the entire post, you are not as lazy as most. Ironically, the ones who responded without reading the post provide excellent examples of exactly what I was talking about.

Yours truly
self-control

The majority of you seem to hold the unreasonable belief that voicing your opinion has some effect on the issue complained about.

If you would put even a fraction of the effort that you normally spend digging through propagandas on actually researching the issues, people who know what is going on would become readily apparent to you, as opposed to only the people who are as lazy as you, and then maybe you could post to a forum that actually means something will get done.

Further, if you accept things for face value, especially when they are derived and/or contrived by corporate media outlets, you really are just too gullible to be making decisions about your own welfare, and probably don't deserve any freedoms or liberties at all since you would only use them to become even more lazy and delusional.

Moreover, the people with enough motivation to actually perform research on the issues and find a way to do something about them usually don't have time to explain it all to you. Worse, if even half the truth about the issues was knowledge that the public could easily find, it doesn't matter at all what government is in charge, there would be constant revolution, and nobody wants that.

It takes a very disciplined outlook to actually face an issue and find a solution. The very fiber of society is built from the apathy of followers, and without followers, nobody can lead.

The USA already is suffering from an overpopulation of delusional leadership. Luckily for us, you don't have to be born on US soil for any position but President, which is only a figurehead obligation to begin with. The USA is not an autonomous government, and never was intended to be one. The fact that it's the most desirable country in the world to live in is the entire reason for our success in any endeavor, but it's also based on the fact that we're comprised of the oppressed ignorant peoples of everywhere that sucks real bad. The people immigrating from suckrealbad-land don't actually understand why it's good here, they're mostly chasing a dream of better-than-horrible, which is exactly what they find when they get here.

Those untrained ignorant refugees from, usually dictatorships, don't immediately adjust to a mindset condusive to democracy. A long time ago, it happened that such ignorance became more common than educated interest in society. This is why Roosevelt spent so long in office, and was nearly elected KING of the USA. Nobody gave two turds about democracy anymore, and not much has really changed since then except that ignorance is now freely distributed in more forms than just cocaine and moonshine between shifts in the coal mines.

On top of everything else, there's a genuine Nazi presence here in the USA that has been slowly and surely increasing in power over the last 60-70 years, waiting for its chance to once again dominate all the people of the world under their psychotically self-destructive philosophies. They are methodical and efficient, and more patient than any reasonable person would ever be willing.The policies that they can be attributed are such things as affirmative action, which, at first glance seems like it would go directly against their agenda. But in practice, affirmative action actually corrodes the value of experience in the workplace and replaces it with ironic inefficiency while simultaneously granting a provision that is otherwise not even seen for the insult to minorities that it genunely is.

Another major propaganda technique that seems to have worked in the Nazis favor is the irrationally negative reaction that the majority now have to even the mention of Adolh Hitler. It's extremely important to discuss the horrible atrocities of the past, and understand them, or else you're going to force them to happen again. In making it impossible to discuss Hitler's tactics and methods during WW2, and by jumping all over anyone who attempts to have such a discussion, you're preventing any understanding of those events and hastening a repeat. The nation of free speech is crippled by an inability to make any damn sense.

Nobody that lived during those times is even alive to talk about it any more, and the general trend for people who were never involved in an event to take offense to other people who were also not involved, re: black people pretending to be pissed off about slavery 200 years before they were born, re: jews who refuse to withstand any discussiong about the german holocaust, re:hippies that refuse to talk about Viet Nam, re:environmentalists that didn't do anything when Bush sold all the national parks to Wal-Mart, the list is getting too long too fast.... all of this GARBAGE only promotes a further removal of your rights as they were established DURING those times of crisis.

So either get off your lazy butt and go take part in your governmental system, or be an idiot and shut up. I mean the original greek meaning of idiot, not the abused slang version currently most commonly in circulation. Idiot originally meant a non-participating member of democratic society.

You are lazy.

"The only form oc control that's real is self-control. The rest is illusion." :gundge: :headbang: :sniper: :fluffle:
Does anyone have a cliffnote on this? I'm too lazy to read the whole thing.

:cool:

For those of you who are still disciplined enough to have read the entire post, you are not as lazy as most. Ironically, the ones who responded without reading the post provide excellent examples of exactly what I was talking about.

Yours truly
self-control
I've got a book for you to research. Its called "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. Pick up a copy. Expand your people skills. Research the word "humility" while you're at it.

:cool:

I've got a book for you to research. Its called "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. Pick up a copy. Expand your people skills. Research the word "humility" while you're at it.

:cool:

I don't even want to pretend that anyone who replied to this post is worthy of being one of my friends. You bought my product and don't even know what it is.

As for humility, I prefer to be reasonable.

Yours truly,
self-control

The majority of you seem to hold the unreasonable belief that voicing your opinion has some effect on the issue complained about.
You do know that I'm not posting here because I want my posts to change the world, right? I'm posting here because it amuses me, and I'd imagine most others here are doing something similar.

I don't even want to pretend that anyone who replied to this post is worthy of being one of my friends. You bought my product and don't even know what it is.
Ooh, hooray for random assertions of superiority! I love this game!

I don't even want to pretend that anyone who replied to this post is worthy of being one of my friends. You bought my product and don't even know what it is.

As for humility, I prefer to be reasonable.

Yours truly,
self-control

Extreme arrogance and cynicism... taking the place of intelligence and actual reason?

I read your post, and understood the whole thing, but there really wasn't a valid point to it. You seem to hold the unreasonable belief that voicing your opinion has some effect on the issue complained about.

Nobody cares!

Edit: Watch this thread go down in flames!

For those of you who are still disciplined enough to have read the entire post, you are not as lazy as most. Ironically, the ones who responded without reading the post provide excellent examples of exactly what I was talking about.

Yours truly
self-control
What's the point in reading the whole thing when the first sentence slags us off? You haven't been here long enough to know that if you tell people they're lazy, they will then just play up to that.
Some people here do do things about what they say, and yet still they post here. What does that tell you? That we're lazy, or that maybe we're just having fun? If you want to do something about whatever, then fine, but you're not going to be able to change the way people on here act, because (almost) everyone here is here to have fun.

I don't even want to pretend that anyone who replied to this post is worthy of being one of my friends. You bought my product and don't even know what it is.

As for humility, I prefer to be reasonable.

Yours truly,
self-control

If you're trying to be reasonable, please remember what an earlier post said in response to all this: this is a part of a gaming forum where folk go to relax, wind down, and enjoy themselves with other people - in this section of the forums, by engaging in mock debates and showing off. It's not to be taken all that seriously!

http://www.alltooflat.com/serious/boobies/boobie5.jpg

Boobie says no.

What's the point in reading the whole thing when the first sentence slags us off? You haven't been here long enough to know that if you tell people they're lazy, they will then just play up to that.
Some people here do do things about what they say, and yet still they post here. What does that tell you? That we're lazy, or that maybe we're just having fun? If you want to do something about whatever, then fine, but you're not going to be able to change the way people on here act, because (almost) everyone here is here to have fun.

I already have. ;)

Yours truly,
self-control

The higher the horse, the harder the fall. I suggest you wear some padded colthing.

The people immigrating from suckrealbad-land don't actually understand why it's good here, they're mostly chasing a dream of better-than-horrible, which is exactly what they find when they get here.

oooooh now i get it thanks technowhatever, my current country is internet so maye i will deport myself from the internet

For those of you who are still disciplined enough to have read the entire post, you are not as lazy as most. Ironically, the ones who responded without reading the post provide excellent examples of exactly what I was talking about.

Yours truly
self-control
ahh... but do you know who actually read the whole thing?

and did you spot all your spelling mistakes?

oooooh now i get it thanks technowhatever, my current country is internet so maye i will deport myself from the internet

Define: propaganda

Yours truly,
self-control

I agree with Technonchthonia*.
To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men.— Ella Wheeler Wilcox.

I don't even want to pretend that anyone who replied to this post is worthy of being one of my friends. You bought my product and don't even know what it is.

As for humility, I prefer to be reasonable.

Yours truly,
self-control
Clearly you're just an attention-whore seeking an audience through degredation of the masses while simultaneously placing your self above all others without due justification or merit. If that's the product you're selling then that's what I got out of it. Was there supposed to be something else?

:cool:

The majority of you seem to hold the unreasonable belief that voicing your opinion has some effect on the issue complained about.

If you would put even a fraction of the effort that you normally....

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-004.gif

It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.

The majority of you seem to hold the unreasonable belief that voicing your opinion has some effect on the issue complained about

...

So either get off your lazy butt and go take part in your governmental system, or be an idiot and shut up. I mean the original greek meaning of idiot, not the abused slang version currently most commonly in circulation. Idiot originally meant a non-participating member of democratic society.

You are lazy.

"The only form oc control that's real is self-control. The rest is illusion." :gundge: :headbang: :sniper: :fluffle:

So basically, you're a hypocrite since you seem to think that even IF everyone here was lazy AND wanted to change the world through their posts, YOU are posting here too, and YOU want to change this forum through your post.

If I were into psychology, and I'm not, I would say what you are doing is known as projecting. I would say that you yourself are experiencing a reaction formation and that you're lazy and trying to motivate yourself by looking like you're being a motivational source for others.

As it is, I'm just going to say, Merry Christmas to you too, you big heartwarmer.

If I were into psychology, and I'm not, I would say what you are doing is known as projecting. I would say that you yourself are experiencing a reaction formation and that you're lazy and trying to motivate yourself by looking like you're being a motivational source for others.


Ha! as a psychology student, I'd say the concept of projecting was invented so psychologists can always win arguments. He who smelt it, dealt it, as the ancient Phoenicians once said.

yours truly, self indulgence

What good fortune for those in power that people do not think.
- Adolph Hitler

Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns; why should we let them have ideas?
- Josef Stalin

well, hmm I read about a quarter of your post and about fell asleep. Grow up dood.

And I thought I'd never see the world's biggest AND smallest dick at the same time...

Seriously though, I'm lazy. Notice my number of posts.

Real men eat Hot Pockets. Are you man enough?

Real men also eat them compleatly frozen, as real mens teeth are made of solid steel!

It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.

Apathetic (doesn't care about self) + pathetic (doesn't care about others) = "sorry people". My teacher in Computer Science once gave the class a 45-minute lecture on that, what pathetic and apathetic meant, how they both applied to us, and how that made us "stupid sorry people who don't know nothin' ". I think he was really talking to you and your psychological brethren by proxy.

Apathetic (doesn't care about self) + pathetic (doesn't care about others) = "sorry people". My teacher in Computer Science once gave the class a 45-minute lecture on that, what pathetic and apathetic meant, how they both applied to us, and how that made us "stupid sorry people who don't know nothin' ". I think he was really talking to you and your psychological brethren by proxy.

Your CS teacher hadn't bothered to read a dictionary and was feeding you his own personal dogma. Which is why I like to go by the one Reagansim that I ever agreed with: "Trust, but verify." A better equation might be "ignorance+apathy = stupidity".

ap·a·thet·ic
adj.
1. Feeling or showing a lack of interest or concern; indifferent.

2. Feeling or showing little or no emotion; unresponsive.

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[From apathy, on the model of pathetic.]

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.




pa·thet·ic
adj.
1. Arousing or capable of arousing sympathetic sadness and compassion: “The old, rather shabby room struck her as extraordinarily pathetic” (John Galsworthy).

2. Arousing or capable of arousing scornful pity.

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[French pathétique, from Late Latin pathticus, from Greek pathtikos, sensitive, from pathtos, liable to suffer, from pathos, suffering. See kwent(h)- in Indo-European Roots.]

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

I know, I know. It's his definition, though, and if you showed them to him he'd swear up and down they were fake and we were trying to fool him, (and failing miserably like the sorry people we are, of course) and then hack the site and change the definition overnight, come in the next day and crow that he was right all along. :rolleyes:

He's brilliant, though, and I rather like his definitions, and the way he uses them, however indiscriminate his criticism may be....

I know, I know. It's his definition, though, and if you showed them to him he'd swear up and down they were fake and we were trying to fool him, (and failing miserably like the sorry people we are, of course) and then hack the site and change the definition overnight, come in the next day and crow that he was right all along. :rolleyes:

He's brilliant, though, and I rather like his definitions, and the way he uses them, however indiscriminate his criticism may be....

Such is the fine line between education and indoctrination. I prefer teachers to proselytizers of any stripe.

It probably would be indoctrination, except that there's no particular agenda, just lots and lots of cynicism, misanthropism, and criticism. I'm not exactly sure how much is serious, though, and how much is just his own personal amusement/entertainment. In any case, he's a great teacher, if you can manage to keep up with him, and his plethora of strange quirks definitely keep things interesting.