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China, that shining example of tolerance and freedom, has shut down a gay culture festival. Aparently gay films and celebration of the gay lifestyle is somehow a threat to the nation.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1412363

Surely homosexuals can only help their 'one child' policy?:confused:

Surely homosexuals can only help their 'one child' policy?:confused:
Heh.

China sucks like a kid in denial about something. "We're communists! Yeah!...We are!"

Surely homosexuals can only help their 'one child' policy?:confused: Good point. I'd have thought that China would want more gays so they have less little Chinese.

Homosexuality=Effective Birth Control. :)

ALso, isn't there a growing gap between the number of males in the country and females? I read somewhere that by 2020 there will be over 1,000,000 more eligible men than eligible women in China. Sounds like a good time to go gay if you're among the million. :p

They don't really need gays with their unjust sterilisation and coerced abortion policies. :P Socialists ftl... :sniper:

Homosexuality=Effective Birth Control. :)

ALso, isn't there a growing gap between the number of males in the country and females? I read somewhere that by 2020 there will be over 1,000,000 more eligible men than eligible women in China. Sounds like a good time to go gay if you're among the million. :p

Alas, the gay card is only in play through fractions. Boy, I wish it weren't, but there you have it.

Homosexuality=Effective Birth Control. :)

ALso, isn't there a growing gap between the number of males in the country and females? I read somewhere that by 2020 there will be over 1,000,000 more eligible men than eligible women in China. Sounds like a good time to go gay if you're among the million. :p



lol:fluffle:

You'd thinka country where "Wang" and "Dong" are names would be a little more accepting.

Socialists ftl... :sniper:

China became socialist? When? I thought they were commie-fascists.

Communism can't really work, so I'm pretty sure it's desolved into a socialist dictatorship. :P

EDIT: But we can still call them pinko commies. :)

Homosexuality=Effective Birth Control. :)

ALso, isn't there a growing gap between the number of males in the country and females? I read somewhere that by 2020 there will be over 1,000,000 more eligible men than eligible women in China. Sounds like a good time to go gay if you're among the million. :p

haha! sucks to be a commie

China, that shining example of tolerance and freedom, has shut down a gay culture festival. Aparently gay films and celebration of the gay lifestyle is somehow a threat to the nation.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1412363


As opposed to America, the self-proclaimed bastion of tolerance and freedom who, over the past few years, have had a stampede of votes on State constitutional ammendments to ensure that no gays shall ever marry?


But hey, at least you'll let them admit to being gay in a public display....

As opposed to America, the self-proclaimed bastion of tolerance and freedom who, over the past few years, have had a stampede of votes on State constitutional ammendments to ensure that no gays shall ever marry?


But hey, at least you'll let them admit to being gay in a public display....
We have no problem with letting them marry. We only ask that they marry a member of the opposite sex.:p

Good point. I'd have thought that China would want more gays so they have less little Chinese.
They won't head ME complaining ;)

China became socialist? When? I thought they were commie-fascists.

Technically yes. They are state Communist, but have several "areas of trade" such as Hong Kong and Bejing, where capitalism is permitted. In those areas, business is more or less unregulated, that's why everyone outsources jobs their way, since they can hire workers for dirt-cheap as there are no labor rights, and they'll work for any pay.

And the fascist aspect...most definately.

So Fass, what countries would you rank as the most accepting to homosexuality?

Just give a top 10 or 20 or whenever you feel the other countries just sorta "tie" themselves where they all suck? ;p

So Fass, what countries would you rank as the most accepting to homosexuality?

Just give a top 10 or 20 or whenever you feel the other countries just sorta "tie" themselves where they all suck? ;p

Oh, that's kinda difficult, but it would go something like:

1. Netherlands, Belgium (for the marriage, halved abortion rights and general liberalism) and Sweden (for civil unions, which with the church blessings in hindsight will in a year or so be marriages when the gender neutral Äktenskapsbalk is introduced + full adoption rights + also, the liberalism).
4. Canada.
5. Denmark.
6. Spain (for now).
7. Norway.
8. Finland and France and Germany.

I can't be arsed to come up with any more.

Oh, that's kinda difficult, but it would go something like:

1. Netherlands, Belgium (for the marriage, halved abortion rights and general liberalism) and Sweden (for civil unions, which with the church blessings in a year or so will be marriages + full adoption rights + also, the liberalism).
4. Canada.
5. Denmark.
6. Spain (for now).
7. Norway.
8. Finland and France and Germany.

I can't be arsed to come up with any more.
No need. CANADA PWNS YOU USIANS!

No need. CANADA PWNS YOU USIANS!

C'est un "va de soi," comme d'habitude, mon amie Canadienne. :fluffle:

No need. CANADA PWNS YOU USIANS!
Yes, yes we do. :D

C'est un "va de soi," comme d'habitude, mon amie Canadienne. :fluffle:
It's more along the lines of "Cela va de soi". Nice, I didn't know you could speak French, Fass. If you weren't so far away I'd hit on you ;)

It's more along the lines of "Cela va de soi". Nice, I didn't know you could speak French, Fass. If you weren't so far away I'd hit on you ;)

Je me suis moqué des Anglophones qui l'utilisent comme un nom de cette facon. (Pas de cedille, parce que je m'en branle.)

And hit away, I can handle it. :)

Je me suis moqué des Anglophones qui l'utilisent comme un nom de cette facon. (Pas de cedille, parce que je m'en branle.)

And hit away, I can handle it. :)
Ah, je viens de me rappeler, tu es Suisse, je crois, non? Ça explique l'accent Français(de France). Moi je vis au Québec, c'est pour ça que je ne flirte pas avec toi, c'est trop loin. ;)

I'm surprised they didn't jail any participants right away.

Ah, je viens de me rappeler, tu es Suisse, je crois, non? Ça explique l'accent Français(de France).

Je suis Suèdois. S'en tromper, c'est facile, mais si on se souvient que les Suisses sont ceux avec les montres, et nous les Suèdois sommes ceux avec les tonnes de porno, on pourra bien nous distinguer. :p

Moi je vis au Québec, c'est pour ça que je ne flirte pas avec toi, c'est trop loin. ;)

Le monde entier n'est qu'un village global, ou quoi que ce soit.

I'm surprised they didn't jail any participants right away.
Under what charges, anyway? Even they have to maintain a veneer of human rights façade.

Under what charges, anyway? Even they have to maintain a veneer of human rights façade.

Taunt me with your cedille, why don't you.

Je suis Suèdois. S'en tromper, c'est facile, mais si on se souvient que les Suisses sont ceux avec les montres, et nous les Suèdois sommes ceux avec les tonnes de porno, on pourra bien nous distinguer. :p

Hmmm, le porno, mon seul véritable ami. Lui seul sait si bien me comprendre :p Désolé pour le malentendu; la Suède est un pays scandinave, tandis que la Suisse se situe dans les alpes. Je connais ma géographie, ne t'inquiète pas ;)





Le monde entier n'est qu'un village global, où quoi que ce soit.
If that's the case...

*hits on you* :fluffle:

Taunt me with your cedille, why don't you.
*taunts with the çédille* :D

Hmmm, le porno, mon seul véritable ami. Lui seul sait si bien me comprendre :p Désolé pour le malentendu; la Suède est un pays scandinave, tandis que la Suisse se situe dans les alpes. Je connais ma géographie, ne t'inquiète pas ;)

*cesse de s'en faire*

If that's the case...

*hits on you* :fluffle:

Ah, your surrender was expectedly imminent. ;)

*taunts with the çédille* :D

Mon 'çédille' est plus grand que ton 'çédille'.:D

Good one DCD. Glad I live here.....

Good one DCD. Glad I live here.....

Yeah.

It would suck to live in a country where the Justice department quashed a gay pride celebration (http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&expire=&urlID=6529555&fb=Y&partnerID=552)

Yeah.

It would suck to live in a country where the Justice department quashed a gay pride celebration (http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&expire=&urlID=6529555&fb=Y&partnerID=552)
Oh, the irony :rolleyes:

Yeah.

It would suck to live in a country where the Justice department quashed a gay pride celebration (http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&expire=&urlID=6529555&fb=Y&partnerID=552)

It would suck to live in China, period.

Surely homosexuals can only help their 'one child' policy?:confused:
Seriously, that's the best argument I've heard that could possibly point out the hypocrisy inherent in their political model.
It does beg the question-- WTF?

China, that shining example of tolerance and freedom...
Is that what you would call a "preemptive strawman"?

China became socialist? When? I thought they were commie-fascists.
Hardly. They're moe like a fascist corporate police state. Worse, 'cause it's a nation in fucking denial of that fact.

Hardly. They're moe like a fascist corporate police state. Worse, 'cause it's a nation in fucking denial of that fact.

"The people's republic of China"

"The people's republic of China"
LOL. They bring the irony to the forefront without any shame.
That's about as discreet as "Pay no attention to the guy behind the curtain, Dorothy."

"The people's republic of China"
Who are the people? The Communist pary?

Who are the people? The Communist pary?
The people perhaps who would disappear in the anarchy and poverty that would come about if the Party suddenly gave away its power?

Give them time...Deng Xiaoping set out the plan, and the plan will go for a number of years yet. And at the end of it, I'm sure there'll be democracy.

The people perhaps who would disappear in the anarchy and poverty that would come about if the Party suddenly gave away its power?

Give them time...Deng Xiaoping set out the plan, and the plan will go for a number of years yet. And at the end of it, I'm sure there'll be democracy.
Abominable failue, considering anarcho-syndicalism (of sorts) is the desired end-stage of communism. It's obvious China would reach the wrost kind of anarchic dystopia should they reach the Marxist goal, but is that just because they "jumped gun", and went for it without going through the proper stages first? (Namely, capitalism before socialism before communism)???

Abominable failue, considering anarcho-syndicalism (of sorts) is the desired end-stage of communism. It's obvious China would reach the wrost kind of anarchic dystopia should they reach the Marxist goal, but is that just because they "jumped gun", and went for it without going through the proper stages first? (Namely, capitalism before socialism before communism)???
Well, yes.
But I think as time progresses, Chinese politicians will realise that Deng was right in his saying: "It doesn't matter whether a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice.". If you ask me, some of them have already resigned to the fact that the party leadership will end at some point - they are just trying to create the conditions in which democracy is the next reform on the way to utopia.
And then it'll be up to the people whether they want to continue towards that goal.

Well, yes.
But I think as time progresses, Chinese politicians will realise that Deng was right in his saying: "It doesn't matter whether a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice.". If you ask me, some of them have already resigned to the fact that the party leadership will end at some point - they are just trying to create the conditions in which democracy is the next reform on the way to utopia.
And then it'll be up to the people whether they want to continue towards that goal.
hopefully, dude, we're headed there as a global community. It's damn far off, but I hope we reach it someday.
And when we do, terms like "communist" and "libertarian" ae gonna seem pretty silly, IMHO.