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Is it just me or are most NS women bisexual?

Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 16:19
The difference between the men and women of NS is really startling. For most men they are 100% straight, or a few who are hardcore gay. I can only think of one or two bisexual men on this site.

The situation changes dramatically with the fembots of the board. It seems that the bisexual women outnumber the straight ones and the lesbians by far. What is it about NS that draws bisexual women?

Others have observed that men tend towards the extremes of the sexuality spectrum while women tend to be more in the middle (i.e. bisexual). Why is that? Is it natural or is it cultural?
Sdaeriji
22-12-2005, 16:20
I'm a guy and I'm bisexual.
Grave_n_idle
22-12-2005, 16:21
The difference between the men and women of NS is really startling. For most men they are 100% straight, or a few who are hardcore gay. I can only think of one or two bisexual men on this site.

The situation changes dramatically with the fembots of the board. It seems that the bisexual women outnumber the straight ones and the lesbians by far. What is it about NS that draws bisexual women?

Others have observed that men tend towards the extremes of the sexuality spectrum while women tend to be more in the middle (i.e. bisexual). Why is that? Is it natural or is it cultural?

Men ACT straighter... that doesn't mean they ARE.
Ashmoria
22-12-2005, 16:27
the majority of all "women" on the net are bisexual.

a large minority are 22 year old underwear models with very large breasts.




you are looking at a self selected "poll" of people who care to state a preference, who claim to be female (although i have few doubts that our more frequent female posters are female), and who dont have to "prove" their sexual preference.
Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 16:28
Men ACT straighter... that doesn't mean they ARE.
I don't know. I feel pretty straight, as do, seemingly, most of the other guys. There are some men who I consider attractive, but I don't want to have sex with them, so I am not bisexual.

So why do you think that men act straighter? Is it more socially acceptable for women to be bi? If so, why?

I'm a guy and I'm bisexual.
Good for you. If ou read the o.p. carefully, I don't deny your existence.
Sdaeriji
22-12-2005, 16:30
you are looking at a self selected "poll" of people who care to state a preference, who claim to be female (although i have few doubts that our more frequent female posters are female), and who dont have to "prove" their sexual preference.

Precisely. It's easy to say you're bisexual if you never have to act on it. People seem to think it makes you more urbane.
Sdaeriji
22-12-2005, 16:30
Good for you. If ou read the o.p. carefully, I don't deny your existence.

Who is the other bisexual guy?
Safalra
22-12-2005, 16:34
Others have observed that men tend towards the extremes of the sexuality spectrum while women tend to be more in the middle (i.e. bisexual). Why is that? Is it natural or is it cultural?
Ah, time to publicise my theory once more:

http://www.safalra.com/special/menlikelesbians/
FourX
22-12-2005, 16:34
Precisely. It's easy to say you're bisexual if you never have to act on it. People seem to think it makes you more urbane.
I think he was also saying it is also easy to say you are female when there is no way anyone can check.

Not that im a cynic, but I suspect some of the 'female' posters may be fibbing about their gender.
Pure Metal
22-12-2005, 16:35
women are hotter. fact.
therefore, just as dudes are attracted to chicks, it makes sense that chicks dig chicks too.

simple maths, duh. ;)
Franberry
22-12-2005, 16:36
There are some men who I consider attractive, but I don't want to have sex with them, so I am not bisexual.

The only man i consider attractive is that sexy bitch in the mirror
Europa Maxima
22-12-2005, 16:41
women are hotter. fact.
therefore, just as dudes are attracted to chicks, it makes sense that chicks dig chicks too.

simple maths, duh. ;)
I find some guys, objectively, to be way hotter than most women. I am gay, yes, but I can still judge beauty objectively. Some women can be horribly plain.
Swan-Upping
22-12-2005, 16:45
Is it just me or are most NS women bisexual?

Mate, you're living in a bit of a dream-world if you think you are the only bisexual woman in NS.
Bodies Without Organs
22-12-2005, 16:45
Not that im a cynic, but I suspect some of the 'female' posters may be fibbing about their gender.

Certainly one of the regular posters listed as 'FEMALE' isn't technically female (as of yet, at least).
Eichen
22-12-2005, 16:47
Pevets and degenerates... the whole lot of you!!!
UpwardThrust
22-12-2005, 16:48
I'm a guy and I'm bisexual.
Me as well
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 16:48
Certainly one of the regular posters listed as 'FEMALE' isn't technically female (as of yet, at least).
That's different than lying about your gender. That person IS gendered female, but is biologically male. That is not a case of a guy pretending to be a girl to get thrills.

I don't think many of the females (if any) on NS are lying about their gender. If that were happening, you'd think there would be many more 'females' than currently post here...instead, this forum is still overwhelmingly male.
Cabra West
22-12-2005, 16:49
The people who matter know for a fact that I'm female and that I'm bisexual. So duh.

My theory is that most people are essentially more or less bisexual (the same way that most people are more or less ambidextrous at birth) and that they go through a social process accepting the "norm", heterosexuality. There's a minority of people who are actually homosexual from birth, same as there is a minority who is lefthanded, and those people resist that social normalisation process.

Why so many women on here are bisexual... I've got no idea, to be honest.
But I do know that it's far more socially acceptable for women to be bisexual than for men, so there you have an answer why more women admit to it than men.
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 16:49
Me as well
And there's Eichen, and Sumamba...
Swan-Upping
22-12-2005, 16:50
Pevets and degenerates... the whole lot of you!!!

Hey! I've been called a pevet by holier people than thou, thankyou very much!:mad:
Eichen
22-12-2005, 16:50
And there's Eichen, and Sumamba...
Shit, you blew my cover... I wanted to see what it was like posting on the dark side for once. By dark, I mean heteronormative, of course.
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2005, 16:53
Most are probably full of shit. Maybe its stylish to pose as bi-sexual?
Eichen
22-12-2005, 16:54
Hey! I've been called a pevet by holier people than thou, thankyou very much!:mad:
Cats outta the bag. If you catch me on my knees, I'm probably not prayin'.
Europa Maxima
22-12-2005, 16:55
The people who matter know for a fact that I'm female and that I'm bisexual. So duh.

My theory is that most people are essentially more or less bisexual (the same way that most people are more or less ambidextrous at birth) and that they go through a social process accepting the "norm", heterosexuality. There's a minority of people who are actually homosexual from birth, same as there is a minority who is lefthanded, and those people resist that social normalisation process.

Why so many women on here are bisexual... I've got no idea, to be honest.
But I do know that it's far more socially acceptable for women to be bisexual than for men, so there you have an answer why more women admit to it than men.
Yeah I have heard of this theory before. It sounds pretty concrete to be honest.
Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 16:55
Who is the other bisexual guy?
Deep Kimchi (aka Whispering Legs, Sierra BHTP) and Eichen (though I may be wrong on that one).

Precisely. It's easy to say you're bisexual if you never have to act on it. People seem to think it makes you more urbane.
Yeah, I also thought of that. There are a couple of female NS posters who seem to be this way.

Ah, time to publicise my theory once more:

http://www.safalra.com/special/menlikelesbians/
So basically women act bisexual in order to attract the alpha-males?

I must be so evolved. Although I'm a straight man I don't particularly go nuts for lesbians. Bitches.

I think he was also saying it is also easy to say you are female when there is no way anyone can check.

Not that im a cynic, but I suspect some of the 'female' posters may be fibbing about their gender.
Obviously we all have to take each other at word on this website, but why would regular posters bother to lie about their sex?

women are hotter. fact.
therefore, just as dudes are attracted to chicks, it makes sense that chicks dig chicks too.
Sorry, I just don't accept this one at all. I go to a college with 75% female student population. I am almost constantly in earshot of women talking about guys with lust as intense as I've ever heard out of a man's mouth (or, almost, in my own mind).
UpwardThrust
22-12-2005, 16:55
Hey! I've been called a pevet by holier people than thou, thankyou very much!:mad:
I got called a pervert by a bishop once ... does that count? (seriously)
Swan-Upping
22-12-2005, 16:57
Cats outta the bag. If you catch me on my knees, I'm probably not prayin'.

WHOA! backup darlin'! I was just wantin' to dance...
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 16:57
Most are probably full of shit. Maybe its stylish to pose as bi-sexual?
OR, people are getting the term bisexual confused with 'not totally heterosexual' or 'not totally homosexual'. That's a huge area in the middle to use one word to refer to.
Eichen
22-12-2005, 16:57
The people who matter know for a fact that I'm female and that I'm bisexual. So duh.

My theory is that most people are essentially more or less bisexual (the same way that most people are more or less ambidextrous at birth) and that they go through a social process accepting the "norm", heterosexuality. There's a minority of people who are actually homosexual from birth, same as there is a minority who is lefthanded, and those people resist that social normalisation process.

Why so many women on here are bisexual... I've got no idea, to be honest.
But I do know that it's far more socially acceptable for women to be bisexual than for men, so there you have an answer why more women admit to it than men.
To be honest, most of the men I've been with claimed claimed to be "heterosexual" (and still do). I don't participate in what some (think Clinton) call "real sex" with men, but I'd consider it a whole lot more than a handshake between friends.
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 16:58
Deep Kimchi (aka Whispering Legs, Sierra BHTP)
I think you're wrong about this one...I've never once heard him say he swung that way.
Pure Metal
22-12-2005, 16:58
Sorry, I just don't accept this one at all. I go to a college with 75% female student population. I am almost constantly in earshot of women talking about guys with lust as intense as I've ever heard out of a man's mouth (or, almost, in my own mind).
oh FFS dont you people recognise when i'm kidding?
the ;) at the end must have been some form of hint.

i give up.
Swan-Upping
22-12-2005, 17:00
I got called a pervert by a bishop once ... does that count? (seriously)

Actually, that was me, I was just hitting on you. If you'd noticed my robes were backless.:D
Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 17:01
I think you're wrong about this one...I've never once heard him say he swung that way.
Really? He is pretty openly bisexual as far as the posts by him I've seen go.

OR, people are getting the term bisexual confused with 'not totally heterosexual' or 'not totally homosexual'. That's a huge area in the middle to use one word to refer to.
But where are the limits? See Sdaeriji's post. Does thinking that some of your own sex are attractive, but never doing anything with them, make you bisexual? I don't think so.
Kazcaper
22-12-2005, 17:01
I'm definitely a female (well, at least the last time I looked closely I had female genitalia) but I am only attracted to men.

It doesn't matter to me what sexuality the women (or men) here are, though. If indeed most are bisexual, it may be an unusual representation for such a percentage of them to be, but then again I believe the figures for homosexuality are something lik 1 in 7 - 10 of people in general, so I suppose it would make sense for the figures for bisexuality to be higher.
Europa Maxima
22-12-2005, 17:03
I'm definitely a female (well, at least the last time I looked closely I had female genitalia) but I am only attracted to men.

It doesn't matter to me what sexuality the women (or men) here are, though. If indeed most are bisexual, it may be an unusual representation for such a percentage of them to be, but then again I believe the figures for homosexuality are something lik 1 in 7 - 10 of people in general, so I suppose it would make sense for the figures for bisexuality to be higher.
Depending on how many bisexuals actually decided to even act on their bisexuality. That could affect how many would actually reveal their bisexuality.
Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 17:03
oh FFS dont you people recognise when i'm kidding?
the ;) at the end must have been some form of hint.

i give up.
No, I don't recognise it. You litter all of your posts with smilies.
Grave_n_idle
22-12-2005, 17:04
I don't know. I feel pretty straight, as do, seemingly, most of the other guys. There are some men who I consider attractive, but I don't want to have sex with them, so I am not bisexual.


As you put it, most other guys are 'seemingly' pretty straight. It is still a climate, in our society, that frowns upon homosexual expression in men... although it is SOME better tolerated in women.

It seems that men are considered less 'manly', if they express same sex desires... and men are conditioned to 'act' manly at all costs.

Thus... men tend to hide their same sex curiousities... even to repress them.


So why do you think that men act straighter? Is it more socially acceptable for women to be bi? If so, why?


It is more socially acceptable for women to be sensual, rather than sexual... to experience feelings, to emote and share. It is LESS socially acceptable for a man to be 'less of a man'... which covers a multitude of sins.

Many consider it 'un-manly' to cry, for example, or to show fear... or to express interest in your own gender.
UpwardThrust
22-12-2005, 17:05
Actually, that was me, I was just hitting on you. If you'd noticed my robes were backless.:D
You say that as joke I understand but he really did ... and he did so because my priest molested me ... you hit a bit close to home
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 17:07
Really? He is pretty openly bisexual as far as the posts by him I've seen go.*blinks*
Can anyone else back this up? Seriously...not ONCE have I had a hint of that from him.


But where are the limits? See Sdaeriji's post. Does thinking that some of your own sex are attractive, but never doing anything with them, make you bisexual? I don't think so.
Does only being attracted to the same sex, but never acting on it make you a homosexual. I think so.

And you're prying here. You want those of us who 'claim to be bisexulal' to somehow prove it to you? How? If you don't believe the claim, why would you believe the 'proof'?
Eichen
22-12-2005, 17:08
Really? He is pretty openly bisexual as far as the posts by him I've seen go.
Isn't he the dude who gets turned on by watching guys pork his wife? I'm not sure what that's considered, side from very kinky.


But where are the limits? See Sdaeriji's post. Does thinking that some of your own sex are attractive, but never doing anything with them, make you bisexual? I don't think so.
Being male, and bisexual, seems to give everyone (in their eyes) reason to further categorize your sexuality. My "straight" friends in-the-know would almost unanimously call me hetero, but kinky. Gay guys don't think I qualify either, since I don't "go far enough". To me, kinky is a better used term for Deep Kimchi than myself. I have no idea what you call it, and frankly have ceased to care a long time ago. *shrugs*
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 17:09
As you put it, most other guys are 'seemingly' pretty straight. It is still a climate, in our society, that frowns upon homosexual expression in men... although it is SOME better tolerated in women.

It seems that men are considered less 'manly', if they express same sex desires... and men are conditioned to 'act' manly at all costs.

Thus... men tend to hide their same sex curiousities... even to repress them. Yup.

And yet, you'd be surprised how many men are willing to engage in 'homosexual' sexual acts...with a woman. It always makes me wonder why they wouldn't go for the real deal...but I guess you can still claim to be straight if it's just a strap-on. Women don't have to deal with the negative impact of being less than 100% straight...so perhaps we're more honest about it.
Swan-Upping
22-12-2005, 17:09
You say that as joke I understand but he really did ... and he did so because my priest molested me ... you hit a bit close to home

I apologise. I had a grandfather like that priest. So I mean it, sorry.
The Beach Boys
22-12-2005, 17:10
Pevets and degenerates... the whole lot of you!!!

pevets!! wow! is this some new kind of fun person I've never met? or a new species? or a NS region or nation? "the free land of pevets". hmm, that works.
UpwardThrust
22-12-2005, 17:10
I apologise. I had a grandfather like that priest. So I mean it, sorry.
Thats ok :) I must be tired normaly I am the first one making jokes about it :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
Pure Metal
22-12-2005, 17:10
No, I don't recognise it. You litter all of your posts with smilies.
and they usually mean the same sort of thing in each post.

:mp5: :fluffle: :sniper: :cool: :headbang: :upyours: <-- noob
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 17:10
Isn't he the dude who gets turned on by watching guys pork his wife? I'm not sure what that's considered, side from very kinky. Yes...as far as I know, that action has never swung his way. Hence my confusion.
UpwardThrust
22-12-2005, 17:11
Stephen lynch - Priest
deep in prayer my cross to wear

i kneel upon the floor

temptations of a catholic priest aren't easy to ignore

but i can not control myself

he rips my soul apart

for one small sheep among my flock has

stolen the shepherd's heart



altar boy, altar boy

confess your sins to me

you will find the grace of god

inside my rectory



sunday mass or bible class

i catch him in my view

i close my eyes but there he lies

spread eagle on the pew

and when i see him in that frock

my concience goes araye

i'll give him some communion wine thats

spiked with spanish fly



altar boy, altar boy

is it gonna be heaven or hell

you can play my organ all night long

if you promise never to tell



our father

who art in heaven

hallowed be thy name

i could dress him up like the pope and then i'd...

oh dear god, the shame no no no

lead us not into temptation

deliver us from sin

we could pretend that he was jesus christ

and i was mary magdalene



altar boy, altar boy

confess your sins to me

you will find the grace of god

inside my rectory



oh altar boy, oh altar boy

confess your sins to me

you will find the grace of god

inside my rec...
Eichen
22-12-2005, 17:12
pevets!! wow! is this some new kind of fun person I've never met? or a new species? or a NS region or nation? "the free land of pevets". hmm, that works.
It's a term I use to exclusively reffer to satan-spawned swingers.
Grave_n_idle
22-12-2005, 17:14
Yup.

And yet, you'd be surprised how many men are willing to engage in 'homosexual' sexual acts...with a woman. It always makes me wonder why they wouldn't go for the real deal...but I guess you can still claim to be straight if it's just a strap-on. Women don't have to deal with the negative impact of being less than 100% straight...so perhaps we're more honest about it.

I don't doubt it.

I have noticed a phenomena, since I moved to Georgia... that I had never encountered before.

No - admittedly, when I lived in the UK, people (seem) to be a little more accepting, whereas Georgia is pretty rightwing/christian extremist... and there is a strong vein of homophobia (and about any other isolationist psychology you could name, pretty much).

There are a lot of guys I have met in Georgia... that are 100% straight. Absolutely. They hate homosexuality. They ahte homosexuals. They hate, hate, hate all that liberal sexuality stuff.

And yet, when it comes down to it... most of them have, or still do, performed acts of oral or manual stimulation on their same sex friends. Usually, after a couple of beers.

It kind of reminds me of the cop in Boondock Saints... who isn't gay, but his boyfriend is...
FairyTInkArisen
22-12-2005, 17:14
I'm not bisexual i don't think, i just enjoy flirting with women
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 17:17
I'm not bisexual i don't think, i just enjoy flirting with women
I like flirting with women too. And every once in a while, I'm attracted to one enough to want to have sex with her. Yet here I am, married, and also wild about men. I'm not in the middle...I'm somewhere shy of straight.
Eichen
22-12-2005, 17:18
And yet, when it comes down to it... most of them have, or still do, performed acts of oral or manual stimulation on their same sex friends. Usually, after a couple of beers.
You summed it up pretty well, GnI.
The Beach Boys
22-12-2005, 17:23
It's a term I use to exclusively reffer to satan-spawned swingers.

so, proof at last that satan isn't a serpent, he's a fish? (devil fish, maybe?)

and what do you call other kinds of swingers?
Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 17:24
As you put it, most other guys are 'seemingly' pretty straight. It is still a climate, in our society, that frowns upon homosexual expression in men... although it is SOME better tolerated in women.

It seems that men are considered less 'manly', if they express same sex desires... and men are conditioned to 'act' manly at all costs.

Good points, Grave. Sounds about right to me. Do you think that it is feminism that has given women the freedom to express sexual interest in other women?

*blinks*
Can anyone else back this up? Seriously...not ONCE have I had a hint of that from him.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10095631

See post #4.

Does only being attracted to the same sex, but never acting on it make you a homosexual. I think so.
What I mean is that those who claim to be attracted to the both sexes but only ever have any sexual interaction with one sex are not, in my mind, legitimate bisexuals.

And you're prying here. You want those of us who 'claim to be bisexulal' to somehow prove it to you? How? If you don't believe the claim, why would you believe the 'proof'?
If you don't want me to pry, then don't take part in the thread. All we have to go on is each other's word here.

Being male, and bisexual, seems to give everyone (in their eyes) reason to further categorize your sexuality. My "straight" friends in-the-know would almost unanimously call me hetero, but kinky. Gay guys don't think I qualify either, since I don't "go far enough".
Good point, further proof of how it's only socially acceptable for men to be either straight or gay in most places.
Europa Maxima
22-12-2005, 17:27
Good points, Grave. Sounds about right to me. Do you think that it is feminism that has given women the freedom to express sexual interest in other women?

What I mean is that those who claim to be attracted to the both sexes but only ever have any sexual interaction with one sex are not, in my mind, legitimate bisexuals.
Too bad feminism hasn't yet led men to re-examine their own sexuality. Even metrosexuality hasn't really helped much.

I disagree with the second argument. If both women and men get you hard, its pretty clear you're bisexual.
Kanabia
22-12-2005, 17:28
Why does sexuality matter in the first place? Why bother to label people?
Pure Metal
22-12-2005, 17:29
You want those of us who 'claim to be bisexulal' to somehow prove it to you? How?
well, i for one want pictures. *nods*

just the ladies please....
look! no smilies!!! but that was sarcasm
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 17:31
See post #4.*jaw drops*
Well...you learn something new every day!


What I mean is that those who claim to be attracted to the both sexes but only ever have any sexual interaction with one sex are not, in my mind, legitimate bisexuals. I know what you meant. Which is why I brought up the example I did...of someone who is only attracted to the same sex, but never acting on it, still being a homosexual. Why should that be different for bisexuals who have YET to act on their same sex attractions? Why, in your mind, does having sex make one legitamately 'bi' or not? Would you say that someone is not truly heterosexual until they lose their virginity? It doesn't make sense to arbitrarily apply this rule only to bisexuals.


If you don't want me to pry, then don't take part in the thread. All we have to go on is each other's word here. You misunderstand. I am saying that no one can 'prove' to you that they are bisexual, but that seems to be what you are looking for. And you profess one second to be 'going on each other's word' while the entire premise of this thread seems to be questioning the word of women on NS who have said (you use the word, 'claimed'...oh wait, no you didn't...never mind, my bad) to be bisexual. I'm unclear what you want to accomplish.

Edit: maybe I'm misreading things...going back over the thread...I'm not seeing an accusation that people are lying...just feeling it.
Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 17:32
well, i for one want pictures. *nods*

just the ladies please....
look! no smilies!!! but that was sarcasm
lol
Pure Metal
22-12-2005, 17:32
Why does sexuality matter in the first place? Why bother to label people?
because its fun. for example:

you, sir, are a fop and a dandy.

hawhawhawhawhawhawhaw... hohoho, haha, *chortles*

ah at least i amuse myself
Kiwi-kiwi
22-12-2005, 17:33
What I mean is that those who claim to be attracted to the both sexes but only ever have any sexual interaction with one sex are not, in my mind, legitimate bisexuals.


How do you figure that? Who you've had sex with isn't express indication of who you're sexually attracted to. Just because someone has had sexual relations with members of both sexes doesn't stop them form being bisexual. It could just be that all the people they've formed relationships with so far have been of one gender. It's an easy enough thing to happen, especially if a person has only had a few relationships in their life. You fall in love with people and personalities, not genders.

Unless you're advocating that all bisexuals go out and fuck a person of each gender just to 'prove' their bisexuality.
Kanabia
22-12-2005, 17:35
because its fun. for example:

you, sir, are a fop and a dandy.

hawhawhawhawhawhawhaw... hohoho, haha, *chortles*

ah at least i amuse myself

Well you sir, are a smegmatic penile discharge...with an odour of a french cheese factory.

well, i for one want pictures. *nods*

just the ladies please....
look! no smilies!!! but that was sarcasm

I second this kthxplz
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2005, 17:35
Stephen lynch - Priest
...

I love Stephen Lynch


Its so wrong-its right.
The Beach Boys
22-12-2005, 17:39
something I don't think anybody's mentioned yet is whether activities like online gaming might be in some sense selecting which subset of girls and women out of the general population are in NS for Eruantalon to be surveying and whether the percentages of sexual orientation vary any between the subsets. a pretty good number of the women I know aren't into playing any kind of games on computers, never mind online games. but, a pretty good number of the women and girls I know are so into sports, watching and doing them, that sitting at a computer for 'fun' doesn't interest them at all. if Eruantalon tried to figure out how many female and male surfers, martial artists and bikers are bisexual, I wonder if he or she would have come to the same conclusion? and I wonder if his or her guess would be any closer?

something else. how many people here or anywhere on the net feel the need to tell strangers in a forum that much about their personal lives in RL? and how many come here in some kind of character that isn't like themselves sexually? like somebody said, we have to take each other face value, and if people role play here, who's to know? I guess I'm just saying this to say I don't figure there's anything unusual about the sexual orientation of the women here, unless somebody has a hard-core survey of everybody in NS.
Eichen
22-12-2005, 17:39
so, proof at last that satan isn't a serpent, he's a fish? (devil fish, maybe?)

and what do you call other kinds of swingers?
Wannabes.
UpwardThrust
22-12-2005, 17:40
I love Stephen Lynch


Its so wrong-its right.
I got his live at el-ray :) its awsome
Carnivorous Lickers
22-12-2005, 17:43
I got his live at el-ray :) its awsome

I think he is still a regular on Opie & Anthony's satellite radio-I just dont have it myself.
Grave_n_idle
22-12-2005, 17:44
Good points, Grave. Sounds about right to me. Do you think that it is feminism that has given women the freedom to express sexual interest in other women?


Not really... I think feminism has given women a lot of other rights that patriarchal society kept away from them for as long as possible... but I think women have been allowing themselves more space to practise their sexuality for as long as there have been women.

Women tend to be more nurturing, perhaps... more sympathetic, more empathic. All of those things enable a woman to be more sexually expressive, I feel. Especially within the confines of the same gender.

Indeed... in a way, perhaps the obsession many cultures have had with 'owning' women, has actually HELPED females to be more socially acceptable in their same-sex behaviours... since, obviously, 'property' cannot make moral judgements....
Kazcaper
22-12-2005, 17:44
something else. how many people here or anywhere on the net feel the need to tell strangers in a forum that much about their personal lives in RL?I wouldn't say I feel any need to discuss my personal life here, but I'd sooner talk about my sex life here than with my friends. That's because sex and sexuality are very personal issues to me, but here I am a fairly anonymous typist, rather than a real person (to the same degree as I would be to people in real life, anyway). Therefore, it doesn't really have any implications or the same potential repurcussions if I discuss sexual issues here.
Megaloria
22-12-2005, 17:48
I'm still wondering where the Megalosexual girls are on here. I.E., attracted to me. I think they're all hiding away from the world, plotting something.
Liskeinland
22-12-2005, 17:50
Why does sexuality matter in the first place? Why bother to label people? Because the male half of the species has a need to label.
How do you figure that? Who you've had sex with isn't express indication of who you're sexually attracted to. True. Behind closed doors in prisons and barracks, for example...
Pure Metal
22-12-2005, 17:50
Well you sir, are a smegmatic penile discharge...with an odour of a french cheese factory.

french cheese? aw :(
Kanabia
22-12-2005, 17:51
Because the male half of the species has a need to label.

I am male, and I do not care one way or the other.
Jester III
22-12-2005, 18:17
I just wondered, I only ever had serious relationships with women and only fell in love with women. But i am physically attracted to guys as well and do have sex with men. What would be my label?

I guess the anonymity of the net is really helping in confessing. Even in a society that is less strict than Georgia in regards to this issue, you can be sure of negative reactions. Even worse, in my oppinion, is chums changing their behaviour, like i was out for their ass, now that they know. Which is why i am not really open about it. Honest, yes, if the topic comes up, but i am comfortable with only me and the concerned people knowing as well.
Heavenly Sex
22-12-2005, 18:30
Bisexual women r0X0r your b0X0r! :D
Pure Metal
22-12-2005, 18:36
Bisexual women r0X0r your b0X0r! :D
but maybe not your c0ckX0r...
Hall of Heroes
22-12-2005, 18:56
The difference between the men and women of NS is really startling. For most men they are 100% straight, or a few who are hardcore gay. I can only think of one or two bisexual men on this site.

The situation changes dramatically with the fembots of the board. It seems that the bisexual women outnumber the straight ones and the lesbians by far. What is it about NS that draws bisexual women?

Others have observed that men tend towards the extremes of the sexuality spectrum while women tend to be more in the middle (i.e. bisexual). Why is that? Is it natural or is it cultural?

Guy and bisexual here.

Well, Freud hypothesized that everyone in their base state is bisexual, but that societal conditioning turned them straight and/or gay. Guys still have quite a bit of cultural pressure to be straight, but it's lessened considerably with women. So perhaps that can explain it.
FourX
22-12-2005, 18:59
Originally Posted by FourX
I think he was also saying it is also easy to say you are female when there is no way anyone can check.

Not that im a cynic, but I suspect some of the 'female' posters may be fibbing about their gender.

Obviously we all have to take each other at word on this website, but why would regular posters bother to lie about their sex?

Gender swapping is not exactly a rare occurance in online communities. Personally I dont get it but there are quite a few people out there who *swap* gender when online. Some women pass themselves off as male to avoid unwanted attention. Some men pass themselves off as female to get some more attention. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I would be VERY surprised if more than half the female posters on here were actually women.
On a forum someone can be whoever they want to be, and some people cross-dress just to see what its like.
Really on a forum/game where you will most likely (and often hopefully) never meet the people who post there should be no difference in how people treat people of other genders, and really i rarely care what gender people claim to be, but a lot of people are affected.
Try playing a game like Ragranok (spelling? I don't play it myself but know a few people who do) as a female avatar - people will help you and give you free stuff a lot more often than if you play as a male avatar.
Megaloria
22-12-2005, 18:59
but maybe not your c0ckX0r...

And that's what SuX0rs.
Megaloria
22-12-2005, 19:02
Try playing a game like Ragranok (spelling? I don't play it myself but know a few people who do) as a female avatar - people will help you and give you free stuff a lot more often than if you play as a male avatar.

Same holds true for World of Warcraft. I can't being myself to do it since I feel I don't have the capacity to act female, but one of my friends loves doing it, just to watch the sad people who /flirt and /flex. He doesn't even have to do anything.
Dumpsterdam
22-12-2005, 19:27
Guy here, and like a few others that posted on this thread, bisexual.

So now that I have that on off my chest, something for you guys to ponder over.(alot of people seem to think of this wrong)

If you are bisexual, it doesn't automaticly mean you wish to have sex with the same gender, I mean, I am attracted to men but wouldn't realy dive into bed with a man any faster then I would with a woman.(which is realy slow I might add)
Liskeinland
22-12-2005, 19:33
I am male, and I do not care one way or the other. *notes down Kanabia in the "Indifferent" section.*

And it's Ragnarok.
Equus
22-12-2005, 21:18
Gender swapping is not exactly a rare occurance in online communities. Personally I dont get it but there are quite a few people out there who *swap* gender when online. Some women pass themselves off as male to avoid unwanted attention. Some men pass themselves off as female to get some more attention. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I would be VERY surprised if more than half the female posters on here were actually women.
So you're saying that instead of having a population that is 1/3 women, NS is actually only one-sixth women?

The number of people who claim to be women on this board is pretty low already. I wouldn't think that the number of people who are making false claims is really all that high.

And, in case someone cares, I am a female and mostly heterosexual. However, I have been turned on by and have had sex with, other women. Mostly just in menage a trois though.
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 21:20
I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I would be VERY surprised if more than half the female posters on here were actually women. And I would be shocked to find out that even a handful were lying. General is not a role-playing forum. And there are few women on General compared to men...don't you think that'd be higher were men running around pretending to be women?
Cabra West
22-12-2005, 21:23
And I would be shocked to find out that even a handful were lying. General is not a role-playing forum. And there are few women on General compared to men...don't you think that'd be higher were men running around pretending to be women?

The game's up I think... Tink, Grainne and myself are all 40 year old men getting a kick out of pretending to be women. Same as you. And Eutrusca is actually a 16 year old girl :D
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2005, 21:23
I'm a guy and I'm heterosexual. But I wouldn't call myself 100% straight.

I used to be bisexual.
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 21:24
The game's up I think... Tink, Grainne and myself are all 40 year old men getting a kick out of pretending to be women. Same as you. And Eutrusca is actually a 16 year old girl :D
Oh...oh yeah.

I don't know why I even care...but it's like being accused of lying when you know it's bullshit...seriously...which WOMEN do certain people think are actually men?
Cabra West
22-12-2005, 21:24
I'm a guy and I'm heterosexual. But I wouldn't call myself 100% straight.

I used to be bisexual.

Used to be? What happened?
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2005, 21:30
Used to be? What happened?

Well, you see, I have no aversion to the male form and I'm extraordinarily horny. But as I grew older, I learned that there's a big difference between a lack of aversion and actual physical and emotional attraction. By the time I was 24 or 25, I had definitely shifted into the 'heterosexual' end of the spectrum. The last time I had intercourse with a male, I was 25. I don't regret a thing, but I don't miss it either. I'm very happily married. :)
Cabra West
22-12-2005, 21:33
Well, you see, I have no aversion to the male form and I'm extraordinarily horny. But as I grew older, I learned that there's a big difference between a lack of aversion and actual physical and emotional attraction. By the time I was 24 or 25, I had definitely shifted into the 'heterosexual' end of the spectrum. The last time I had intercourse with a male, I was 25. I don't regret a thing, but I don't miss it either. I'm very happily married. :)

Funny. It is completely the other way round for me. When I was younger, I behaved mostly heterosexual, and wasn't overly attrackted to women. That started changing drastically in recent years.
Terrorist Cakes
22-12-2005, 21:35
I'm a girl, and I'm more hetro than bi. If I ever made out with a girl, she would have to be damn hot.
Sinuhue
22-12-2005, 21:37
I'm a girl, and I'm more hetro than bi. If I ever made out with a girl, she would have to be damn hot.
Yeah, I have kind of high expectations for women...men can be mouth-breathing knuckle draggers and I'll still give them a tumble if they seem like they have stamina. In women, I don't go for blondes, I prefer filipinas, barring that I like them a bit darker skinned, longish hair, nice big asses and narrow waists...mmmmm...
AnnCoultersAdamsApple
22-12-2005, 21:43
I think he is still a regular on Opie & Anthony's satellite radio-I just dont have it myself.

Yeah he is but he hasn't come out with a lot of newer stuff. I have his cd's and a signed photo and he's appeared on a lot of campuses by my college. Really popular among the college crowds. He still takes a lot of heat for his "Full-blown AIDS" song though so he doesn't do that one too much anymore. In fact he plays his less controversial stuff more often than songs like Lullaby or Priest, like you mentioned. I still would love for some conservative institution to bring him aboard for a night without knowing who he really is. I can see it now.

"A Night of Song (but no dance, you sinners) with Stephen Lynch" @ Liberty College
Sunday, December 25th. 8 PM.
Hosted by Rev. Jerry Falwell
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2005, 21:45
Funny. It is completely the other way round for me. When I was younger, I behaved mostly heterosexual, and wasn't overly attrackted to women. That started changing drastically in recent years.

I think there's a lot of pressure from both sides of the aisle to choose either 'Gay' or 'Straight'. To model your behavior on what's expected from you as one or the other. Fortunately, I had a very crafty mother who saved herself the time and embarrassment of teaching me 'The Birds and The Bees' by handing me the bookset, "The Joy of Sex" and "More Joy of Sex". Suffice to say, my sexual education was quite... complete. They said more or less the same thing I did(and in fact, that's where my opinion of sexual preference comes from).

As I have always been the odd duck in school( I fit in everywhere by fitting in nowhere), I've never been afraid to march to my own drummer. The last thing people could think is that I was any weirder than I already was. Hehehe.

Of course, there were fights. There were hassles. It wasn't all good times. But I still consider myself lucky. I was more or less accepted by my peers as I was.

A lot of people aren't so lucky.
Grave_n_idle
23-12-2005, 05:53
Yeah, I have kind of high expectations for women...men can be mouth-breathing knuckle draggers and I'll still give them a tumble if they seem like they have stamina. In women, I don't go for blondes, I prefer filipinas, barring that I like them a bit darker skinned, longish hair, nice big asses and narrow waists...mmmmm...

I'm sure I've argued with you before... but I heartily endorse your taste in women.
Grainne Ni Malley
23-12-2005, 06:05
The game's up I think... Tink, Grainne and myself are all 40 year old men getting a kick out of pretending to be women. Same as you. And Eutrusca is actually a 16 year old girl :D

You weren't supposed to tell them! Now I'll never get Eutrusca in the sack!
Jello Biafra
23-12-2005, 18:51
Perhaps it's more of an internet thing...I mean homosexuality and bisexuality aren't things that most homosexuals and bisexuals can talk about as much as they would like to, so the internet provides an anonymous forum for this type of discussion (as a few others have said in this thread.)
Eruantalon
25-12-2005, 02:18
In women, I don't go for blondes, I prefer filipinas, barring that I like them a bit darker skinned, longish hair, nice big asses and narrow waists...mmmmm...
I thought you considered Ann Coulter "smokin' hot". This pronouncement alone caused me to lose all respect for your taste in women.
Wolfholme
25-12-2005, 07:23
Who is the other bisexual guy?

Looks like there's more than two. I can be put on that list as well.

Pevets and degenerates... the whole lot of you!!!

Coming from you, that means nothing.

What I mean is that those who claim to be attracted to the both sexes but only ever have any sexual interaction with one sex are not, in my mind, legitimate bisexuals.

I think that's bull. Other wise you can't be straight unless you had sex.

If you are bisexual, it doesn't automaticly mean you wish to have sex with the same gender, I mean, I am attracted to men but wouldn't realy dive into bed with a man any faster then I would with a woman.(which is realy slow I might add)

I agree with you completely. I'm not into casual relationships at all.
Free Mercantile States
25-12-2005, 07:27
Is it just me, or are all NS women bisexual?

[roars with laughter] Damn, man, what a question.....