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Utter BS!!! - Canada "retarded cousins": US pundit

The Chinese Republics
20-12-2005, 22:38
Canada described as 'retarded cousin' by U.S. pundit
Beth Gorham
Canadian Press

Tuesday, December 20, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Canada has been described lately by a conservative U.S. television host as ''a stalker'' and a ''retarded cousin.''

Another pundit recently asked if Canadians weren't getting ''a little too big for their britches.''

There's been a spate of Canada- bashing by right-wing media commentators in the United States ever since Prime Minister Paul Martin's complaints about lumber penalties and U.S. policy on climate change. His remarks prompted an unusual rebuke last week from the American ambassador.

The attacks on Canada have had web bloggers typing overtime and a non-profit group that's monitoring the trend, Media Matters for America, says it's disturbing.

Yet Paul Waldman, a senior fellow for the group, said Monday the criticism is confined to the usual faction that erupts whenever there's criticism of President George W. Bush's administration and it probably won't last past Canada's Jan. 23 election.

''There are always going to be occasions when it pops up. But Canada is never going to occupy an extraordinary amount of American thought,'' said Waldman.

''It's more like: 'Who can we beat on today?' It's never going to reach the heights of animosity toward France in the run-up to the Iraq war.''

Last week, MSNBC host Tucker Carlson, a well-known conservative pundit, let loose with a string of anti-Canada rants.

''Anybody with any ambition at all, or intelligence, has left Canada and is now living in New York,'' he said.

''Canada is a sweet country. It is like your retarded cousin you see at Thanksgiving and sort of pat him on the head. You know, he's nice but you don't take him seriously. That's Canada.''

Carlson also said it's pointless to tell Canada to stop criticizing the United States.

''It only eggs them on. Canada is essentially a stalker, stalking the United States, right? Canada has little pictures of us in its bedroom, right?''

''It's unrequited love between Canada and the United States. We, meanwhile, don't even know Canada's name. We pay no attention at all,'' he said.

The day before, Fox News host Neil Cavuto highlighted Martin's remark at a news conference that the United States is a ''reticent nation'' lacking a ''global conscience'' on climate change.

''So have the Canadians gotten a little too big for their britches?'' Cavuto asked.

''Could our neighbours to the north soon be our enemies?''

Douglas MacKinnon, a press secretary to former Republican senator Bob Dole, also recently accused Canada of harbouring terrorists.

''Can Canada really be considered our friend anymore?'' he asked in a recent commentary in the right-wing Washington Times newspaper.

''What other question can be asked when the Canadian government not only willingly allows Islamic terrorists into their country but does nothing to stop them from entering our nation?''

U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins warned Martin last week to tone down anti-American jabs or risk hurting bilateral relations. But Martin was unrepentant, saying he would ''not be dictated to'' by the United States and his hard line appears to be resonating with some voters.

While the offensive from American pundits isn't widespread, it still has the potential to affect cross-border ties, said Waldman.

''On Capitol Hill, the TVs are turned to Fox News. This kind of media environment is what the White House pays attention to,'' he said.

''That hostility is probably shared by a lot of people in the administration.''
© Canadian Press 2005

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WOW, not joining the Iraq invasion is retarded? Complaining about softwood is retarded? Criticizing the Bush Administration is retarded? That is complete BULLSHIT!!! :mad:
UpwardThrust
20-12-2005, 22:40
Idiots abound (talking about the pundit)
Sinuhue
20-12-2005, 22:40
Hey, one of our politicians called Bush a moron...I say, let the mud-slinging begin!
Kryozerkia
20-12-2005, 22:41
Wow... Just...wow! That has got to be the stupidest thing to come out of the US...since... well, the last time Bush went on his little globe trotting escapades to spread the stupid word.
[NS]Trans-human
20-12-2005, 22:42
You mean Canada isn't our retarded cousin of the north? Maybe, mentally challenged cousin to the north is more correct.:P
UpwardThrust
20-12-2005, 22:42
Hey, one of our politicians called Bush a moron...I say, let the mud-slinging begin!
At least he was right :fluffle:
Sinuhue
20-12-2005, 22:43
At least he was right :fluffle:
She (http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/11/21/moron021121).
Shazbotdom
20-12-2005, 22:43
Heh.



Now everyone knows why i am against the Bush administration, not to mention most (if not all) of the conservative people in the US. If i were elected to office, all Conservatives wouldn't be allowed to own any type of firearms.
UpwardThrust
20-12-2005, 22:44
She (http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/11/21/moron021121).
Oh she :fluffle: :fluffle:
Desperate Measures
20-12-2005, 22:46
Heh.



Now everyone knows why i am against the Bush administration, not to mention most (if not all) of the conservative people in the US. If i were elected to office, all Conservatives wouldn't be allowed to own any type of firearms.
But... who would buy guns?
The Chinese Republics
20-12-2005, 22:46
Hey, one of our politicians called Bush a moron...I say, let the mud-slinging begin!Carrolyn Parrish? That MP who stepped on that Bush doll in "This Hour Has 22 Minutes"? That was gold. :D
The Nazz
20-12-2005, 23:02
Someone ought to remind Tucker that when Toyota decided to put a new plant in North America, they chose Canada over the US for two reasons. The first was that healthcare costs, even when factoring in higher tax rates in Canada, were demonstrably lower than in Alabama. The second, and more salient point here, was that Toyota's experience with plants in the US, particularly in the south, is that the average autoworker can't read well enough to handle even basic supervisory positions. Toyota complained that they were having to use picture cards to get their points across to the line workers. They didn't have to do that with Canadian autoworkers.
Sinuhue
20-12-2005, 23:07
Carrolyn Parrish? That MP who stepped on that Bush doll in "This Hour Has 22 Minutes"? That was gold. :D
Actually no...she was the second to do that...yeah, I loved that. Actually it was Francoise Ducros (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2516939.stm) who first did it...and had to resign. Parrish never apologised, but she doesn't have to...I think she's an independent now. Ha!
The Chinese Republics
20-12-2005, 23:11
Trans-human']You mean Canada isn't our retarded cousin of the north? Maybe, mentally challenged cousin to the north is more correct.:PCan you describe why our country is the mentally challenged cousin to the north? A list would be fine.
Kryozerkia
20-12-2005, 23:13
Can you describe why our country is the mentally challenged cousin to the north? A list would be fine.
Not retarded... just stupid, as in... you're high stupid.
Cahnt
20-12-2005, 23:13
Can you describe why our country is the mentally challenged cousin to the north? A list would be fine.
Gun control, no death sentence and refusing to sell the oil reserves to Haliburton, at a guess.
Notaxia
20-12-2005, 23:26
I think it is laughable that some americans think it is a canadians job to keep undesireables out of america.

"Halt sir! You cannot leave Canada! The Americans dont care for your style of bombing! Please quash your ambitions, and pick a domestic target produced by 100 per cent Canadian beavers."

No, it is the Canadian border securities job to block undesirables from entering CANADA, just as its the US customs job to do the same in the US.

sigh. I guess we will have to borrow some picture cards from toyota to properly explain this. Most americans have no problem understanding this, but southern autoworkers and political pundits need all the help they can get.
Cahnt
20-12-2005, 23:28
I think it is laughable that some americans think it is a canadians job to keep undesireables out of america.

"Halt sir! You cannot leave Canada! The Americans dont care for your style of bombing! Please quash your ambitions, and pick a domestic target produced by 100 per cent Canadian beavers."

No, it is the Canadian border securities job to block undesirables from entering CANADA, just as its the US customs job to do the same in the US.

sigh. I guess we will have to borrow some picture cards from toyota to properly explain this. Most americans have no problem understanding this, but southern autoworkers and political pundits need all the help they can get.
Perhaps some sort of mime routine with glove puppets would get the message across?
Kreitzmoorland
20-12-2005, 23:29
Carrolyn Parrish? That MP who stepped on that Bush doll in "This Hour Has 22 Minutes"? That was gold. :DThat was embarrasing. Carolyn parrish is a liability, and and obnoxious and none-too-original one at that.
The Chinese Republics
20-12-2005, 23:30
Gun control
Waste of money? Yes. Is it worth it? Yes it is. Is gun problems in Toronto is due to guns illegally shipped from America thanks to US second amendment? Yes.
No death sentence
We're not barbarians you know.
Refusing to sell the oil reserves to Haliburton, at a guess.
Why should we give up our resources to Haliburton?
Sinuhue
20-12-2005, 23:33
That was embarrasing. Carolyn parrish is a liability, and and obnoxious and none-too-original one at that.
A liability in what way? Come on now...she isn't going to be directly affecting any real policy...and not all of our politicians have to have their tongues firmly in whichever US president that happens to be in power's ass. US politicians love to slag us...and they aren't being called embarassments, or liabilities.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
20-12-2005, 23:33
Hey, one of our politicians called Bush a moron...I say, let the mud-slinging begin!

You know, this makes me think. Everyone makes fun or Bush, and people bash the U.S. all day long. But if someone from the U.S. badmouths someone else, or another country, everyone gets all pissed off at America/Americans. So you know what? Screw Canada.

By the way, I don't like Bush either, but my point is: if you're talking shit about my county, quit bitching if an American badmouths your piddly little excuse for a nation.
Sinuhue
20-12-2005, 23:35
You know, this makes me think. Everyone makes fun or Bush, and people bash the U.S. all day long. But if someone from the U.S. badmouths someone else, or another country, everyone gets all pissed off at America/Americans. So you know what? Screw Canada.

By the way, I don't like Bush either, but my point is: if you're talking shit about my county, quit bitching if an American badmouths your piddly little excuse for a nation.Yeah, that would hold a drop of water if I actually cared that some USian was slagging Canada. Or if there was actually a whole bunch of outrage about this in my country. So you know what? Na na na na na...you started it...wah wah wah.:rolleyes:
Cahnt
20-12-2005, 23:36
Waste of money? Yes. Is it worth it? Yes it is. Is gun problems in Toronto is due to guns illegally shipped from America thanks to US second amendment? Yes.

We're not barbarians you know.

Why should we give up our resources to Haliburton?
Hold your horses: I'm all for gun control and no death sentence, but a lot of right leaning Americans aren't, and who do you think media pundits are aiming their crap at?
As for not selling the oil reserves to haliburton, that's letting the terrorists win. Forget that they've been ignoring the NAFTA in order to screw you punitive import duties on lumber, if you don't sell them the oil then you're even worse than the French.
The Chinese Republics
20-12-2005, 23:39
Hold your horses: I'm all for gun control and no death sentence, but a lot of right leaning Americans aren't, and who do you think media pundits are aiming their crap at?Sorry, didn't know you're joking. :D
As for not selling the oil reserves to haliburton, that's letting the terrorists win. Forget that they've been ignoring the NAFTA in order to screw you punitive import duties on lumber, if you don't sell them the oil then you're even worse than the French.Ask King Ralph...
Kreitzmoorland
20-12-2005, 23:42
A liability in what way? Come on now...she isn't going to be directly affecting any real policy...and not all of our politicians have to have their tongues firmly in whichever US president that happens to be in power's ass. US politicians love to slag us...and they aren't being called embarassments, or liabilities.Okay, so she won't make a whole lot difference policy wise, but she was a member of government, and still sits in the countries house of representatives. Having someone in an official possition making such low remarks is different than having pundits and lobbyists flinging mud, and it is damaging to our relationship. No to mention just plain rude.

You know, this makes me think. Everyone makes fun or Bush, and people bash the U.S. all day long. But if someone from the U.S. badmouths someone else, or another country, everyone gets all pissed off at America/Americans. So you know what? Screw Canada.

By the way, I don't like Bush either, but my point is: if you're talking shit about my county, quit bitching if an American badmouths your piddly little excuse for a nation.I don't understand this bitterness. Pundits and panels can say whatever the heck they want and it shouldn't be offensive. Hopefully dignitaries can conduct themselves with a bit more dignity and restraint, even if it is only a mask. They are the ones forming the imortant relationship between Canada and the US. Open hostility and mud-flinging isn't something we sould strive for; civility and opennes is.
Sinuhue
20-12-2005, 23:53
Okay, so she won't make a whole lot difference policy wise, but she was a member of government, and still sits in the countries house of representatives. Having someone in an official possition making such low remarks is different than having pundits and lobbyists flinging mud, and it is damaging to our relationship. No to mention just plain rude.

Ok. I can agree with that. Let the mudslinging happen in less official ways. That way we can more easily ignore it and go about our lives.
Kreitzmoorland
20-12-2005, 23:56
Ok. I can agree with that. Let the mudslinging happen in less official ways. That way we can more easily ignore it and go about our lives.Exactly. hey, far be it from me to deride the artful put-down in political discusion - I'm into Israeli politics, after all. As long as it's not official.
Korrithor
21-12-2005, 00:03
You know, this makes me think. Everyone makes fun or Bush, and people bash the U.S. all day long. But if someone from the U.S. badmouths someone else, or another country, everyone gets all pissed off at America/Americans. So you know what? Screw Canada.

By the way, I don't like Bush either, but my point is: if you're talking shit about my county, quit bitching if an American badmouths your piddly little excuse for a nation.

Exactly. There really isn't any more I can add to this except a hearty round of applause.
Sinuhue
21-12-2005, 00:04
Exactly. There really isn't any more I can add to this except a hearty round of applause.
I'll play a tiny violin for you while you applaud. Poor, poor you.
Stephistan
21-12-2005, 00:05
I personally wouldn't worry about it too much, think of the source.. hehe, it's coming from an American, they don't know any better..Just smile and laugh, because quite frankly assholes like that our not worth your time, let alone your effort. ;)
Korrithor
21-12-2005, 00:05
I'll play a tiny violin for you while you applaud. Poor, poor you.

Can you make violins out of softwood? :D
Stephistan
21-12-2005, 00:06
That was embarrasing. Carolyn parrish is a liability, and and obnoxious and none-too-original one at that.

I disagree, she was the only one with balls enough to say what the rest of us were all thinking.
Sinuhue
21-12-2005, 00:08
Can you make violins out of softwood? :D
Well, we used to make them out of Cod before our stocks were depleted...I'm sure it'd be an improvement!:p
Haakanistan
21-12-2005, 00:19
Truly, I'm broken up. Why they might invade...if the president knew where Canada was on a map.
Seriously, making fun of the US is kind of a national passtime. Our neighbour is big, likes flexing its proverbial muscles, and condescending towards other nations, especially Canada. Given the US tarriffs on our lumber, NAFTA is a joke, free trade free only so much as the US gets to trade freely and we don't. We refused to enter into a war based on evidence priven eminently false, not that it was less than flimsy to begin with. And our government has been Liberal for years, when the term "Liberal" superceds "commie" to many Americans. The old stereotype that Amercans can't find even themselves on a map, let alone other countries, is not so far fetched, and does indeed loose its amusing qualities by virtue of that, and less so in that, regardless, it seems their cruse missiles and armies at least find their way.
Why, exactly, are we NOT supposed to mock the United states? If we didn't laugh, we would cry. All that power and potential, wrapped up in a seeming coccoon of its own arrgance and ingorance. Yes, it is ignorant qwhen many Americans can't find on a map the last two countries their soldiers are currently dying in. It's hard to wiew americans as intelligent when their President, the living symbol of their nation, routinely garbles vocabulary in a way I find painful...and WE are called "retarded"? for that matter, has anyone seen Vice President Richard B. Cheney's lips move when Bush is around?
Yes, Canada is a small country, in terms of milirary power and international power. That means that we HAVE to think before we act, something that the United States could benefit to do more often. I am NOT anti-American; what I am is anti-arrogance, anti-ignorance, and all too often, those qualites seem almost celebrated by the US, pride taken in their seeming inability to acknowledge or accept others' beelifs or ways, even within their own country. Watch American politics, and you can see it. Or the commentator whose words inspired this thread...
By the way, for what it is worth, I have little repect for Prime Minister Martin or his "rivals". We, like the Americans, could do so better for leaders.
Although we are still better off.
Except for Senator john McCain; him I like and respect.
Kreitzmoorland
21-12-2005, 00:33
I disagree, she was the only one with balls enough to say what the rest of us were all thinking.*I* wasn't thinking that, and I don't pay Carolyn Parrish to make innapropriate and rude remarks for me - I can do that myself. I pay her to be a productive member of government, which I cannot do myself. There is no need for unihibited personal honesty when you're a representative of others.
SHAENDRA
21-12-2005, 00:59
:mp5: Carlson Tucker:sniper:
Megaloria
21-12-2005, 01:06
This guy wants retarded, let's give him retarded. We should all soil ourselves and crash a Sea King full of the offending trousers (or pants, I'm currently learning british) into his front lawn.
Teh_pantless_hero
21-12-2005, 01:13
Carlson is getting out of line? Some one call John Stewart.
The Chinese Republics
21-12-2005, 02:25
This guy wants retarded, let's give him retarded. We should all soil ourselves and crash a Sea King full of the offending trousers (or pants, I'm currently learning british) into his front lawn.I'll join in.:D
New Genoa
21-12-2005, 02:30
I think Canadians are retarded because they don't have a sense of humor when it comes to criticizing their country. You must nationalist fascist flag-waving bastards!! Anyway, it's not retarded, it's learning disabled.
Gataway_Driver
21-12-2005, 02:44
The reason these pundits bash canada is to gain ratings through shock tactics. Why does anyone care what they say. They have no idea of the real world
New Rafnaland
21-12-2005, 02:45
Truly, I'm broken up. Why they might invade...if the president knew where Canada was on a map.
Seriously, making fun of the US is kind of a national passtime. Our neighbour is big, likes flexing its proverbial muscles, and condescending towards other nations, especially Canada. Given the US tarriffs on our lumber, NAFTA is a joke, free trade free only so much as the US gets to trade freely and we don't. We refused to enter into a war based on evidence priven eminently false, not that it was less than flimsy to begin with. And our government has been Liberal for years, when the term "Liberal" superceds "commie" to many Americans. The old stereotype that Amercans can't find even themselves on a map, let alone other countries, is not so far fetched, and does indeed loose its amusing qualities by virtue of that, and less so in that, regardless, it seems their cruse missiles and armies at least find their way.
Why, exactly, are we NOT supposed to mock the United states? If we didn't laugh, we would cry. All that power and potential, wrapped up in a seeming coccoon of its own arrgance and ingorance. Yes, it is ignorant qwhen many Americans can't find on a map the last two countries their soldiers are currently dying in. It's hard to wiew americans as intelligent when their President, the living symbol of their nation, routinely garbles vocabulary in a way I find painful...and WE are called "retarded"? for that matter, has anyone seen Vice President Richard B. Cheney's lips move when Bush is around?
Yes, Canada is a small country, in terms of milirary power and international power. That means that we HAVE to think before we act, something that the United States could benefit to do more often. I am NOT anti-American; what I am is anti-arrogance, anti-ignorance, and all too often, those qualites seem almost celebrated by the US, pride taken in their seeming inability to acknowledge or accept others' beelifs or ways, even within their own country. Watch American politics, and you can see it. Or the commentator whose words inspired this thread...
By the way, for what it is worth, I have little repect for Prime Minister Martin or his "rivals". We, like the Americans, could do so better for leaders.
Although we are still better off.
Except for Senator john McCain; him I like and respect.

Three cheers for broad-brush paiting! I knew Bush wasn't the only one who could do it, and look at how my faith has paid off! Just keep in mind that we earned our arrogance, though. And Canada's snide, Holier-Than-Thou attitude towards the United States is every bit as bad as American ignorance. And I thank you for so gallantly pointing it out.
[NS]Canada City
21-12-2005, 03:22
Even though I think it is rather stupid to say such words, he is RIGHT that no one really does care about us.

Though I'm not too surprised that there is some people in the states in political positions who spite us. We weren't exactly being soft on the States either.

Fuck the bastard either way.
SHAENDRA
21-12-2005, 03:27
I think Canadians are retarded because they don't have a sense of humor when it comes to criticizing their country. You must nationalist fascist flag-waving bastards!! Anyway, it's not retarded, it's learning disabled.
We are a small country population wise, We can't beat you up,we have a sense of humour, it's one of the ways we have to deal with living next door to the schoolyard bully. We have so much humour we export it to your country,i.e. Jim Carrey and Mike Myers to name a few.'' Nationalist,'' .''flag waving'', ''fascist'', have you looked in the mirror lately? buddy boy!! Go shove a hockey stick up your ass!!
Megaloria
21-12-2005, 03:29
We are a small country population wise, We can't beat you up,we have a sense of humour, it's one of the ways we have to deal with living next door to the schoolyard bully. We have so much humour we export it to your country,i.e. Jim Carrey and Mike Myers to name a few.'' Nationalist,'' .''flag waving'', ''fascist'', have you looked in the mirror lately? buddy boy!! Go shove a hockey stick up your ass!!

Hey, hey. Cool it. That's no way to treat a hockey stick.
Yonger Minions
21-12-2005, 03:41
Canada is north of us WOW!

just joking. Why can't we just insult each other in good fun and not get offended? We should take it as constructive criticism on both ends.
Dishonorable Scum
21-12-2005, 03:47
If anyone in Canada asks, I'll be happy to lead a team of commandos to kidnap these idiots and forcibly extradite them to Canada. You'll then be free to strip them naked in the middle of a hockey arena and pelt them with frozen pucks. I'll sit back and watch, and applaud. All I ask in return is tickets to next year's Celtic Colours festival in Cape Breton.

:p
Kiwi-kiwi
21-12-2005, 03:51
If anyone in Canada asks, I'll be happy to lead a team of commandos to kidnap these idiots and forcibly extradite them to Canada. You'll then be free to strip them naked in the middle of a hockey arena and pelt them with frozen pucks. I'll sit back and watch, and applaud. All I ask in return is tickets to next year's Celtic Colours festival in Cape Breton.

:p

Aw, don't bother going through all that trouble. Just release a couple of rabid attack beavers into their rooms at night. :D
Dobbsworld
21-12-2005, 03:59
US pundit?

*extends tongue*

Pffffffffffffffffffff-ffft!

Thank you.
Dobbsworld
21-12-2005, 04:02
*sticks thumbs in ears and wiggles fingers menacingly*

I'm CANADA and I'm your greatest secret FEAR, man...
Gauthier
21-12-2005, 04:20
Aw, don't bother going through all that trouble. Just release a couple of rabid attack beavers into their rooms at night. :D

Naaaaw... how about several Boots to the Head for each, then stuff rabid Tasmanian Devils in their trousers?
Kiwi-kiwi
21-12-2005, 04:22
Naaaaw... how about several Boots to the Head for each, then stuff rabid Tasmanian Devils in their trousers?

Aw, but Tasmanian Devils are so Australian. It'd be rude of us to point the blame towards the Australians. How about slathering them iwith boiling hot maple syrup and covering them with maple leaves?
New Genoa
21-12-2005, 04:43
We are a small country population wise, We can't beat you up,we have a sense of humour, it's one of the ways we have to deal with living next door to the schoolyard bully. We have so much humour we export it to your country,i.e. Jim Carrey and Mike Myers to name a few.'' Nationalist,'' .''flag waving'', ''fascist'', have you looked in the mirror lately? buddy boy!! Go shove a hockey stick up your ass!!

First of all, I guess you didn't get my humor so let me explain. Canadians, liberals, anyone who ends up disliking the US often chastises Americans for wetting their pants whenever someone attacks the US or makes an American joke. We get slandered as nationalist flag-waving KKK-draped lunatics for replying back angerly. However, Canada gets a petty little insult from an insignficant guy about being a "retarded cousin" and all of a sudden you guys lose it? For Christ's sake, take it like a man, Canada.

And I s'pose I count as a fascist nationalist too, now because I laughed at a joke aimed at Canada. I s'pose Libertarianism really was a fascist ideology in the end.:mp5:
The Chinese Republics
21-12-2005, 05:00
IYou must nationalist fascist flag-waving bastards!!I proudly march down the street in my military uniforn, waving a the patriotic maple leaf flag... with a yellow hammer and sickle on the middle. Preparing to invade New Genoa's country because one of his people called us "retarded cousins".
New Genoa
21-12-2005, 05:04
Now when you say canadian military uniform...;)

Hmm apparently I forgot to include the infinitive "be" in that sentence. How retarded of me.;)
End of Darkness
21-12-2005, 05:09
Really?

I always thought that Canada was a really big loft apartment over a really great party...
Ravenshrike
21-12-2005, 05:59
Waste of money? Yes. Is it worth it? Yes it is. Is gun problems in Toronto is due to guns illegally shipped from America thanks to US second amendment? Yes.
You're rather, simplistic, aren't you? The guns would be shipped there regardless, simply because if they weren't legal in america the black market here would be more than large enough to supply Canadia on the side. See prohibition and the drug trade. Then there's the fact that gun violence is simply symptomatic of underlying problems.
New Rafnaland
21-12-2005, 06:05
You're rather, simplistic, aren't you? The guns would be shipped there regardless, simply because if they weren't legal in america the black market here would be more than large enough to supply Canadia on the side. See prohibition and the drug trade. Then there's the fact that gun violence is simply symptomatic of underlying problems.

Hear, hear.
Megaloria
21-12-2005, 06:07
Really?

I always thought that Canada was a really big loft apartment over a really great party...

We ARE the party.
Gaithersburg
21-12-2005, 06:14
I already posted this in anouther thread, but from the looks of it, it needs to be posted here too.

I kinda think of it like this. Canada and the United States are like siblings and ,in a sense, they really are. They will always pick on each other and to some people it may look like they hate each other's guts. However, deep down inside they will always love each other. Canada and the U.S. are so much a part of each other there is no way they can't.

I have found it almosted expected that Canada and the U.S. will call each other names. They are so close to each other historicaly, geographicly, and culturaly that it would be impossible for there not to be rivalry. However, the point is to take it lightly and just move on.
Eichen
21-12-2005, 06:25
I already posted this in anouther thread, but from the looks of it, it needs to be posted here too.

I have found it almosted expected that Canada and the U.S. will call each other names. They are so close to each other historicaly, geographicly, and culturaly that it would be impossible for there not to be rivalry. However, the point is to take it lightly and just move on.
That's a very good analogy. We're in a tiff right now over the current admin, but once our "new best friend" is out of the picture, we'll go back to being brothers again.
Wallonochia
21-12-2005, 06:30
Canada is north of us WOW!

It's quicker for me to drive south to Detroit, and go south across the river to Windsor :)


Anyway, all of this is just another reason to not watch TV. I haven't sat and watched TV in over 5 years and I couldn't be happier about it.
Cannot think of a name
21-12-2005, 06:38
Someone ought to remind Tucker that when Toyota decided to put a new plant in North America, they chose Canada over the US for two reasons. The first was that healthcare costs, even when factoring in higher tax rates in Canada, were demonstrably lower than in Alabama. The second, and more salient point here, was that Toyota's experience with plants in the US, particularly in the south, is that the average autoworker can't read well enough to handle even basic supervisory positions. Toyota complained that they were having to use picture cards to get their points across to the line workers. They didn't have to do that with Canadian autoworkers.
Ouch!
JuNii
21-12-2005, 06:55
A toast to the Retarded Cousins to our North.


From this Warmongering Prick of a Stupid Bastard to their South.

:D
Kreitzmoorland
21-12-2005, 07:24
I'll drink to that.

*brings manischevitz*

le'chaim!!!
Ragbralbur
21-12-2005, 07:46
I wouldn't mind so much if he just attacked a person, like how we just attack President Bush. However, he didn't do that. He attacked our whole forking country, and that's a very different issue. We don't say Americans are war-mongering liars. We aim that comment at certain people if we believe those people are war-mongering liars. I wish people like Tucker Carlson would have the same respect for our country, but maybe that's expecting too much.
New Rafnaland
21-12-2005, 07:49
I wouldn't mind so much if he just attacked a person, like how we just attack President Bush. However, he didn't do that. He attacked our whole forking country, and that's a very different issue. We don't say Americans are war-mongering liars. We aim that comment at certain people if we believe those people are war-mongering liars. I wish people like Tucker Carlson would have the same respect for our country, but maybe that's expecting too much.

However, earlier, on this very topic, one of your countrymen/women called Americans dumb, arrogant, and ignorant.
Marrakech II
21-12-2005, 07:53
" But Canada is never going to occupy an extraordinary amount of American thought,'' said Waldman.



What was this post about again? I got distracted by the grass growing outside the window.
Santa Barbara
21-12-2005, 07:56
Yeah, a "pundit" said something bad about Canada. Cry me a river.

I can see the big objection if our ambassador said this or something. But some talking head on TV? Why is that any different from when the Kids in the Hall make jokes about stupid USA? Other than not being as funny.

And for the record, I agree that its BS. Canada ain't our cousins! :p
Marrakech II
21-12-2005, 07:57
Yeah, a "pundit" said something bad about Canada. Cry me a river.

I can see the big objection if our ambassador said this or something. But some talking head on TV? Why is that any different from when the Kids in the Hall make jokes about stupid USA? Other than not being as funny.

And for the record, I agree that its BS. Canada ain't our cousins! :p


haha, yet we can agree on something SB. Well put....
Fenland Friends
21-12-2005, 09:52
Canada described as 'retarded cousin' by U.S. pundit


WOW, not joining the Iraq invasion is retarded? Complaining about softwood is retarded? Criticizing the Bush Administration is retarded? That is complete BULLSHIT!!! :mad:

Well, were it my country, I'd take it as a sign that we were doing something right, and walk forward with just a little more confidence. Being ridiculed by the American right wing is like being challenged at chess by a football hooligan. It's a little scary, but not because of the intellect involved....:)
The Black Forrest
21-12-2005, 10:00
Tucker Carlson? Meh!

He is still sore about John Stewart making him look like a dumbass. :)
Maelog
21-12-2005, 15:52
What's retarded abour Canada?

Let's not ask that question about America... the nation which gave us "intelligent design" being taught in schools as science.
Eutrusca
21-12-2005, 15:54
"Utter BS!!! - Canada "retarded cousins": US pundit"

hehehe! ( Sorry ... just couldn't resist! ) :D
[NS]Canada City
21-12-2005, 15:56
Well, were it my country, I'd take it as a sign that we were doing something right, and walk forward with just a little more confidence. Being ridiculed by the American right wing is like being challenged at chess by a football hooligan. It's a little scary, but not because of the intellect involved....:)

I don't think we're doing something right.

Moore still likes us.
Anybodybutbushia
21-12-2005, 16:06
One news anchor does not speak for the country - grow up - there are assholes everywhere saying stupid shit (like me right now)
Lights Blessing
21-12-2005, 16:47
Canada as done one great thing. Cirque du Soliel is very well done. I have seen Algeria and I want to see the others.

And the comment about Americans not being able to point to a map and find the countries our troops our in? Not all of us are backwater rednecks that get to 8th grade and call it a high school education. A shame that there are countless number of arrogant bigots, inbred hillbillys and those to ignorant to look past their own noses. The same can be said for all countries.

The smart,kind and educated people from everywhere should build a floating island and let the idiots live their lives. While we progess without the impedments of war.
Eutrusca
21-12-2005, 16:50
The smart,kind and educated people from everywhere should build a floating island and let the idiots live their lives. While we progess without the impedments of war.
The Muslim extremists would nuke it. :eek:
Waterkeep
21-12-2005, 17:23
I should probably apologize for some of my fellow Canadians here.

It's quite probable they don't realize that Tucker Carlson is actually an American comedian.

For my country-folks.. picture a small, clean shaven man, boyish face, curly poofed up red hair, and a bright red bow tie with spots on it. This is the "pundit" being quoted in the article.

If anything, we should take this as a compliment, as it means our neighbours to the south are finally realizing as a whole that they are not alone in the global stage. Give them a break, we're kind of new thing for them. Neither enemy nor puppet, so it could take a while for them to figure out exactly where we fit.
Dakini
21-12-2005, 17:34
I Want to poison that man's soup in such a way not to kill him, but to render him more mentally challenged than he already apparantly is.

Furthermore, this is why I think we should phase out trade with the U.S.. If we can trade with other people then we can give a big "fuck you" to americans like this douche for good.
Gauthier
21-12-2005, 18:13
The Muslim extremists would nuke it. :eek:

"Oh noez the brwn ppl r going 2 n00k us!!"

:rolleyes:

If any of the groups had nukes, I'm sure they would slip it in through Mexico and crater a city by now.
Ragbralbur
21-12-2005, 18:21
However, earlier, on this very topic, one of your countrymen/women called Americans dumb, arrogant, and ignorant.
Yes, and he was a first post troller.

Furthermore, this is why I think we should phase out trade with the U.S.. If we can trade with other people then we can give a big "fuck you" to americans like this douche for good.
Because one idiot can't keep his mouth shut? I'm fine with Paul Martin taking a tough tone with the Bush administration about issues that they have actually screwed with us on, like softwood lumber, but you can't seriously be suggesting that we cut-off trade just out of dislike for Americans. If we do, we're doing as a whole country what only a few radical individuals are doing in America. Our relationship with Americans is good. Our relationship with Busheviks is bad. I like it this way, but let's not confuse those two groups.
Pacitalia
21-12-2005, 18:37
Canada ain't our cousins! :p

Guess not - you didn't marry any of us. :p

Ladies and gents, the day Tucker Carlson is actually worth listening to will be either the day Jon Stewart throws him into a Chicken McNuggets processing machine (it's fun to dream) or he gets rid of that ridiculous first-day-of-preschool bowtie (aka never).
Fan Grenwick
21-12-2005, 18:45
I am always disgusted with the ignorance and egotistical rantings of some Americans.
Being Canadian, I can't help it. Sorry about that to the Yanks.
If Canadian journalists said things like that about the all-mighty United States of America, well I can imagine the reaction by the States. (If you think Operation Iraqi Freedom was unjustified..................)
I do like Americans on an individual level but on a national level I find their ignorance of the world and of world situations appalling. If something doesn't affect them (the US) then it doesn't matter in the world and never happened.
It would be interesting to ask them what they really know about their OWN country before they start insulting and degrading other countries. I can tell you, it's not really that much and what they do know is usually incorrect.
Dakini
21-12-2005, 18:56
Because one idiot can't keep his mouth shut? I'm fine with Paul Martin taking a tough tone with the Bush administration about issues that they have actually screwed with us on, like softwood lumber, but you can't seriously be suggesting that we cut-off trade just out of dislike for Americans. If we do, we're doing as a whole country what only a few radical individuals are doing in America. Our relationship with Americans is good. Our relationship with Busheviks is bad. I like it this way, but let's not confuse those two groups.
No, I actually support limiting trade with the U.S. because we depend too heavily on them and they like to do things like threaten to tighten the border when we try to relax laws on say, pot. That and they like fucking us over on things like softwood lumber. Also, are they taking our beef yet?
Sakkra
21-12-2005, 19:08
Speaking as an American, I have to say this is one of the stupidest things i've ever heard our politicians say in regards to our northern friends. We should enforce a mandatory retirement age for politicians before they get senile and start rambling in an insane fashion and making us in America world-wide targets of hatred and disgust.

Oops, is it a bit too late?
Pacitalia
21-12-2005, 19:22
Speaking as an American, I have to say this is one of the stupidest things i've ever heard our politicians say in regards to our northern friends. We should enforce a mandatory retirement age for politicians before they get senile and start rambling in an insane fashion and making us in America world-wide targets of hatred and disgust.

Oops, is it a bit too late?

Too bad Tucker Carlson isn't a politician, just a worthless fascist pundit, and that he hasn't reached the comfortable age of 50 yet.

I am always disgusted with the ignorance and egotistical rantings of some Americans.

Yeah, like what's his face earlier in the topic who said, "if you're talking shit about my county, quit bitching if an American badmouths your piddly little excuse for a nation."

Dude, I don't even know what county you live in - let alone what state! I just know you're American and that was awful logic.

*rounds a$$-guy-who-said-my-nation-was-a-piddly-little-excuse-for-a-nation-guy and Tucker Carlson and throws them to the lions*
Compuq
21-12-2005, 19:43
However, earlier, on this very topic, one of your countrymen/women called Americans dumb, arrogant, and ignorant.
Did they do it on national TV?

Anyway Tucker Carlson is just a prick, best to ignore him. Going on and on about it is just going to give him more power. He's only one guy, its not like he represents the whole USA.
The Black Forrest
21-12-2005, 20:05
I should probably apologize for some of my fellow Canadians here.

It's quite probable they don't realize that Tucker Carlson is actually an American comedian.


He is?!?!

Hmm now wonder conservatives are angry all the time. Piss poor comedy access. ;)
Silliopolous
21-12-2005, 20:24
You know, getting into the purile pettiness of crap like this is pointless.

There will always be some Canadians who make dumb-assed generalized comments about all Americans.

There will always be some Americans who make dumb-ased generalized comments about all Canadians.


All I want to do is remind everyone to point and laugh at a dork like Fucker Carlson who, with a straight face, can both regularly insult Canada at the same time as "[he] also said it's pointless to tell Canada to stop criticizing the United States."


Oh yeah Fucker C.... it's all 'dem Canadians constantly spewing vomit and bile. Not glorious folks such as yourself who would NEVER stoop to anything like that!



Well, except on days that end in a "y" I guess....


Loosen up that bowtie Fucker. Your brain misses the oxygen.
Gauthier
21-12-2005, 20:45
Did they do it on national TV?

Anyway Tucker Carlson is just a prick, best to ignore him. Going on and on about it is just going to give him more power. He's only one guy, its not like he represents the whole USA.

I'm sorry, the only convervative who can dress like Pee Wee Herman and get away with it is George Will.