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Just saw on the news that a judge in Pennsylvania has ruled that "Intelligent Design" cannot be taught in public schools. I see this as a definite step in the right direction.

Darwin comes up with the 6 pointer in theorising evolution,

PA judge comes up for the conversion, and .... IT'S GOOD!!!

There is a place for ID in schools, and that's in theology discussions or phillosophy class!

Darwin comes up with the 6 pointer in theorising evolution,

PA judge comes up for the conversion, and .... IT'S GOOD!!!

There is a place for ID in schools, and that's in theology discussions or phillosophy class!
Perxactly! :)

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There is a place for ID in schools, and that's in theology discussions or phillosophy class!
...along with discussions on white superiority and similar idiocies.

...along with discussions on white superiority and similar idiocies.
Now, now! Tsk! :p

...along with discussions on white superiority and similar idiocies.

Nah, that belongs in history class along with slavery etc.

If you're studying phillosophy, you're bound to cover ID at some point...

...along with discussions on white superiority and similar idiocies.
Now Now. There's a big difference between disagreeing with someone, and crucifying them for their beliefs.

Be nice, EVERYONE is stupid about SOMETHING.


(he he he Did ya see what I did there?)

Just saw on the news that a judge in Pennsylvania has ruled that "Intelligent Design" cannot be taught in public schools. I see this as a definite step in the right direction.
Now we give Bush an excuse to make schools teach it by executive order while bitching about activist judges. It's a win-win situation for crazy people.

Now we give Bush an excuse to make schools teach it by executive order while bitching about activist judges. It's a win-win situation for crazy people.
YYAAYYYYYY It's accusations day!

You people stole my sock out of the dryer! :D

score!

maybe america isn't as backward as all that after all.... ;)

There is a place for ID in schools, and that's in theology discussions or phillosophy class!

though only if the teacher of that class is armed and ready to defend themselves against people who have taken the fascists' eliminationist rhetoric to heart.

Now we give Bush an excuse to make schools teach it by executive order while bitching about activist judges. It's a win-win situation for crazy people.
No. That would be unconstitutional to mandate such a thing via executive order. :p

score!

maybe america isn't as backward as all that after all.... ;)

Our system's wheels spin slowly, but effectively.

YYAAYYYYYY It's accusations day!

You people stole my sock out of the dryer! :D
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Our system's wheels spin slowly, but effectively.
Yup.

I believe the quote is: "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine." :D

score!

maybe america isn't as backward as all that after all.... ;)
Yeah, right...
I'm just kidding. The majority of Americans on this board are very sensible people. Well, when it comes to matters like this.
Anyone got any article links for this?

You people stole my sock out of the dryer! :D

No, that was the underpants gnomes.

score!

maybe america isn't as backward as all that after all.... ;)
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Our system's wheels spin slowly, but effectively.
Yep. Now we've got to deal with Kansas. Problem is, the state of Kansas, in its infinite wisdom, decided to change the definition of science in order to get ID in the door.

Yeah, right...
I'm just kidding. The majority of Americans on this board are very sensible people. Well, when it comes to matters like this.
Anyone got any article links for this?

linky...
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles?id=n20051220105809990024

Yep. Now we've got to deal with Kansas. Problem is, the state of Kansas, in its infinite wisdom, decided to change the definition of science in order to get ID in the door.
Can you say, "That's way bogus," boys and girls? :D

maybe america isn't as backward as all that after all.... ;)

nah, it's still pretty backwards. there are just a number of judges that still count as sane. which is why the democrats freak out about republican judicial nominations so much - they've been relying on judges for years to hold back the irrational tide. the republican posterboy judges actually dissented from the decision that kicked the young earthers out of science class.

linky...
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles?id=n20051220105809990024
Yup! That's it. Thanks, I couldn't find one. :(

Yep. Now we've got to deal with Kansas. Problem is, the state of Kansas, in its infinite wisdom, decided to change the definition of science in order to get ID in the door.

Yeah, but it won't be long. The 14th Amendment holds individual States up to the Bill of Rights and, hence, individual States cannot violate the establishment clause of the First Amendment any more than Congress can and only one religion believes in Intelligent Design.

So give it time.

Yup! That's it. Thanks, I couldn't find one. :(

No problem, I'll gladly give an assist on this one...

Score!

http://www.pandasthumb.org/ -- I've been following it here, excellent overview of the whole trial and case available for the curious.

Elicere

No. That would be unconstitutional to mandate such a thing via executive order. :p
Who says that would stop him?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aHhAnvL4XhjU&refer=us

In his opinion, Jones said the key issue is ``whether Intelligent Design is science,'' and said, ``we have concluded that it is not.''

Jones said the concept of Intelligent Design, ``cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus religious, antecedents.''

nah, it's still pretty backwards. there are just a number of judges that still count as sane. which is why the democrats freak out about republican judicial nominations so much - they've been relying on judges for years to hold back the irrational tide. the republican posterboy judges actually dissented from the decision that kicked the young earthers out of science class.


You do realize that the judge who decided this was a W. appointee, right? Or is your BDS kicking in again?

Jones said the concept of Intelligent Design, "cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus religious, antecedents.''

in other words, next time, don't rely on the replace function of your word processor to change every instance of 'creationists' to 'cdesign proponentists'. morons.

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Gramps! Control yourself! :eek:

You do realize that the judge who decided this was a W. appointee, right? Or is your BDS kicking in again?

i didn't say that all republican appointees are on the crazy side, just their posterboys. when your posterboys are consistently wrong (even in cases where if they followed their own self-declared principles they would wind up being right), it tends to make people a little wary of everyone you propose.

No. That would be unconstitutional to mandate such a thing via executive order. :p

Apparently, such minor trifles won't stop him. :p

Apparently, such minor trifles won't stop him. :p
Yeah, what does the constitution matter to the imperial president?

Now all we have to do is wait for Pat Robertson's reaction and the show can begin.

i didn't say that all republican appointees are on the crazy side, just their posterboys. when your posterboys are consistently wrong (even in cases where if they followed their own self-declared principles they would wind up being right), it tends to make people a little wary of everyone you propose.

I feel that way about both sides, D&R.

You do realize that the judge who decided this was a W. appointee, right? Or is your BDS kicking in again?

What is BDS?

Now all we have to do is wait for Pat Robertson's reaction and the show can begin.
Hmmmm. Maybe he said all he had to say when he told the people of Dover not to come crying to God when a disaster strikes, since they'd voted him out of the schools.

Yeah, what does the constitution matter to the imperial president?

Meh, we haven't had a president who even remotely gave a rat's ass about the constitution since...*strains grey matter*

Gramps! Control yourself! :eek:
Hey! Whadd'ah tell you 'bout dat "gramps" shit!
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though i'm suprised (so many) people took me seriously when i said "backwards yadda yadda"... i only half meant it, heh.

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Not on your best day, young phoole! :D

Hey! Whadd'ah tell you 'bout dat "gramps" shit!
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OWNED!

Yeah, but it won't be long. The 14th Amendment holds individual States up to the Bill of Rights and, hence, individual States cannot violate the establishment clause of the First Amendment any more than Congress can and only one religion believes in Intelligent Design.

So give it time.

It may not even take a challenge like that. The National Academy of Science is thinking about denying Kansas schools the use of their (copywrited) materials. Thing is, pretty much all science textbooks in the country are printed by them - and you have to use them to get No Child Left Behind credit. We'll see whether or not Kansas wants to go through with this when the result is to lose federal funding for their schools.

Meh, we haven't had a president who even remotely gave a rat's ass about the constitution since...*strains grey matter*
Maybe that should be THE next election issue.

Nah, that belongs in history class along with slavery etc.

If you're studying phillosophy, you're bound to cover ID at some point...

Well actually the white supremacists belong in current affairs. Or in civics as a bad example.

Really ID is just another attempt by the Creation Religion people to shove their silly conjecture into science classes and make all of our children into the kind ignorant boobs that would listen to them spout. FOX must have missed some.
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"Evolution is justa theory..."
"So is gravity. Why don't you go to a cliff and disprove it."

Go Penn.! Anyone see the Daily Show the day they made it mandatory:( to teach ID in Kansas?

To celebrate their victory over evolution, the intelligent design supporters grunted loudly and hurled their own feces at each other.:)

Seriously, I hope this finally trips up the thinly veiled attack on the seperation of church and state that is ID.