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Iran's presidend, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has banned all Western music in Iran. I guess that'll show those damn Europeans and Americans who's boss! It's good to see their president is in favor of strong moral leadership by banning music, hanging gays, and stoning women. The fact that they see music, even classical music, must indicate some instablility in their nation. Or at least some mental instability in their leadership.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/12/19/international/i105905S03.DTL

Well, you have to give them credit for banning Kenny G.

Ahhh, further alienating the country's already rebellious youth. Anyone want to place bets on how much longer the government will last?

Ahhh, further alienating the country's already rebellious youth. Anyone want to place bets on how much longer the government will last?
I'll bet long enough to start a regional nuclear war.

I'll bet long enough to start a regional nuclear war.

$10 says Pakistan beats them to it. :)

It isn't that suprising.

I remember hearing somewhere that some hardline muslims won't listen to any other music than readings from the quran put to a tune.

I'd say you're right about alienating some youth, but considering how hardline iran is, I don't see it making a huge impact.

If anything it does show a stance of Iran trying to objectify western culture - efectively making "evil" in the eyes of loyal citizens, even moreso than it already is.

Perhaps Iran beleives it's only a matter of time before the west invades due to its nuclear program? And is setting up for a guerilla war?

Well, we'll have to corrupt Iranian society with India Hindi music now.

$10 says Pakistan beats them to it. :)
I'll take that bet.

Iran's presidend, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has banned all Western music in Iran. I guess that'll show those damn Europeans and Americans who's boss! It's good to see their president is in favor of strong moral leadership by banning music, hanging gays, and stoning women. The fact that they see music, even classical music, must indicate some instablility in their nation. Or at least some mental instability in their leadership.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/12/19/international/i105905S03.DTL

You know, the last Iranian president who contradicted the Supreme Council, in 1981, lasted some months, until a car bomb killed him. And the previous, was sent to exile. Since then, all the "presidents" there have been ultraconservative and ultra-religious. And, if it means to perpetrate bushizisms, he runs with it.

Ahhh, further alienating the country's already rebellious youth.
That's so applicable to thread starter's post itself that I'm not even going to repeat it.

The hell I am.

You need to realize that the Iranian government is fundamentalist muslim. As such, western music is considered wholly outlandish and inappropriate to the government.

If you are wondering how such a person could possibly be elected by the Iranian people, you need to take a closer look at the election process in Iran. In all honesty, to call it a democratic process is a misnomer.

There is a reason why Iran has a very thriving black market. In Iran, there are few jobs as disgraceful, as undesirable, or as financially secure as that of the police officer. If you're wondering what that means, officers get bribed routinely to look the other way to all sorts of offenses, etc. (For instance, a boy and girl who are not related walking together is punishable. Therefore, most Iranian youths who date always have some extra money ready to grease a few palms or grease them in advance.) Out of necessity, or the urge for freedom (not to be mistaken with the very commonly nonexistant urge to have the United States plunder, ahem "liberate," them), the underground society is very prolific in Iran.

Also, as fundamentally muslim as the government is, they are not nearly moronic enough to think of declaring nuclear war. They merely wish for nuclear weapons so that they can use the threat of nuclear war as a means to avoid US aggression. Nations with nuclear weapons aren't nations which have war declared on them. Bush has already made it clear in his state of the union speech several years ago (before the Iranian government sought nuclear weapons) that Iran is a nation he intends to eventually attack. He would likely push a war (both in terms of intention and in terms of communication) on Iran for the same reasons he pushed for a war on Iraq. The Iranian government decided nuclear weapons are the best way to avoid war. I do not condone their decision, to the contrary, I find it moronic, but I believe that the United States government is being needlessly aggressive.

On a side note, why does Iran get the spotlight as a threat while the more militaristic Kim Jong Il's more flamboyant weapons programs is being quietly ignored?

Ahhh, further alienating the country's already rebellious youth. Anyone want to place bets on how much longer the government will last?

I'm betting at least two more years, long enough for the disenfranchised to get pissed.

Well, you have to give them credit for banning Kenny G.
Amen!

Iran's presidend, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has banned all Western music in Iran.
Wow, he's really on a roll. It's as if he wants to get invaded.

On a side note, why does Iran get the spotlight as a threat while the more militaristic Kim Jong Il's more flamboyant weapons programs is being quietly ignored?
My guess is different locations, different approaches. With the Iranians, we have realtively few pressure points to play with. There is no American aid or commerce, nor diplomats, so how can we push, short of war?

We can't withdraw our ambassador, or threaten a trade embargo, so what can the US do? With the North Koreans, my bet is someone there knows that with out foreign support, they'd fall into anarchy. That's why we play different games.

Can you imagine Iranians rocking out to Metallica or Marilyn Manson.As for banning Kenny G. and George Micheal, all on can say is that the man may be bonkers but has some taste.

Well, we'll have to corrupt Iranian society with India Hindi music now.

Or go all-out and bombard them with Aussie and Japanse. Turns out Mahmoud really likes Midnight Oil and Fantastic Plastic Machine.

Wow, he's really on a roll. It's as if he wants to get invaded.

Yeah. How can you not invade someone who refuses to listen to your music?

Can you imagine Iranians rocking out to Metallica or Marilyn Manson.As for banning Kenny G. and George Micheal, all on can say is that the man may be bonkers but has some taste.

I see Iranians as Rolling Stones fans myself.

My guess is different locations, different approaches. With the Iranians, we have realtively few pressure points to play with. There is no American aid or commerce, nor diplomats, so how can we push, short of war?

We can't withdraw our ambassador, or threaten a trade embargo, so what can the US do? With the North Koreans, my bet is someone there knows that with out foreign support, they'd fall into anarchy. That's why we play different games.

Has the United Nations fallen wholly into the realm of nonbeing? International standards have been made to prevent the rogue policing done by individual nations because it has been known, nay proven, that single nations policing their world have commonly acted solely on the behalf of their self-interest, not the behalf of others. It has been seen time and time again that the way taken most commonly to reach the top is by stepping over the corpses of others to ease the climb. By what reasoning is it fair to give one nation a fierce vehemence and the attitude of punishment while another, more guilty, nation has been left at ease? If it is done on account of alternative means of resolution, why haven't they been applied? Why should one nation decide what is best for itself and all others?

Can you answer these questions?

I see Iranians as Rolling Stones fans myself.
Sissor Sisters maybe!!:p Elton John.Nah they'd have to be old school.Bob Marley.Stoned muslim clerics.

Cat Stevens is very upset.

That said, is banning System of a Down *really* proof of instability?

I see Iranians as Rolling Stones fans myself.
What do you think their favorite song is? Sympathy for the Great Satan?

The Anglophone Peoples: What bloated self-righteous manipulative supremacist nonsense.
International standards have been made to prevent the rogue policing done by individual nations because it has been known, nay proven, that single nations policing their world have commonly acted solely on the behalf of their self-interest, not the behalf of others. (...) By what reasoning is it fair to give one nation a fierce vehemence and the attitude of punishment while another, more guilty, nation has been left at ease? (...) Why should one nation decide what is best for itself and all others?
You, for President.

Shocking as it may seem, he was elected. The people of Iran knew what he would do, because he told them too. So, too bad for the Iranians, but if they aren't complaining, than we shouldn't complain either, now should we?