NationStates Jolt Archive


Questions you've never had the courage to ask.

The Jovian Moons
20-12-2005, 03:21
I think we need a way to answer some of these questions, so here it is.

Are humans the only species that masterbates? I was just wondering that today... and um... I'm not crazy!
Neo Kervoskia
20-12-2005, 03:22
I think we need a way to answer some of these questions, so here it is.

Are humans the only species that masterbates? I was just wondering that today... and um... I'm not crazy!No, we're not alone.

That's not crazy at all.
Israeli Jews
20-12-2005, 03:23
Pretty sure I saw a special on Animal Planet about Chimp's jerking off.
Megaloria
20-12-2005, 03:24
"Would you lie down, so I could study your breasts in relief?"
Lunatic Goofballs
20-12-2005, 03:24
I think we need a way to answer some of these questions, so here it is.

Are humans the only species that masterbates? I was just wondering that today... and um... I'm not crazy!

Hasn't a dog ever humped your leg?
The Tribes Of Longton
20-12-2005, 03:26
Two words about animal masturbation - Bonobo Monkeys
Santa Barbara
20-12-2005, 03:27
Two words about animal masturbation - Bonobo Monkeys

Actually, bonobos are chimpanzees.

Fun fact: All single-celled life forms on the planet reproduce via masturbation!
The Jovian Moons
20-12-2005, 03:28
Pretty sure I saw a special on Animal Planet about Chimp's jerking off.

They actually had a special on that? That's just a little strange...
Minoriteeburg
20-12-2005, 03:28
Why is there brail on drive thru ATMs???
Neo Kervoskia
20-12-2005, 03:28
I would like to ask this to a mother. "Why is your kid so fucking stupid?!":)
The Jovian Moons
20-12-2005, 03:30
Fun fact: All single-celled life forms on the planet reproduce via masturbation!

Thank God we don't do that. Talk about over population...
The Antarctican People
20-12-2005, 03:31
"Can I have your number?"
Santa Barbara
20-12-2005, 03:33
Thank God we don't do that. Talk about over population...

We do do that... we just call it artificial insemination!
Lunatic Goofballs
20-12-2005, 03:33
Questions I don't have the courage to ask:

To Jesus: "You let them create a weekly ceremony in which they pretend to drink your blood and consume your flesh?!? Are you nuts???"
Neo Kervoskia
20-12-2005, 03:35
To Jesus: "You let them create a weekly ceremony in which they pretend to drink your blood and consume your flesh?!? Are you nuts???"
You'd let people do that too if you were the son of god.
Minoriteeburg
20-12-2005, 03:35
Why is it than an A student like myself is having a hard time finding a job when a C student is president??
Czardas
20-12-2005, 03:37
Questions I don't have the courage to ask:

To Jesus: "You let them create a weekly ceremony in which they pretend to drink your blood and consume your flesh?!? Are you nuts???"
No, he's bread and wine....


*angry mob chases*

What?
The Jovian Moons
20-12-2005, 03:38
Questions I don't have the courage to ask:

To Jesus: "You let them create a weekly ceremony in which they pretend to drink your blood and consume your flesh?!? Are you nuts???"

He didn't mean it literally.

Here's another question. Why does God only talk to people with silly hats?
Grainne Ni Malley
20-12-2005, 03:38
"Do nuns have lesbian sex?"
The Tribes Of Longton
20-12-2005, 03:39
Actually, bonobos are chimpanzees.

Fun fact: All single-celled life forms on the planet reproduce via masturbation!
Not that it matters, but I never specifically mentioned what genus I was talking about - merely that it was from the kingdom Animalae.

Also, masturbation suggests pleasuring oneself sexually. Microbial mitosis is most certainly asexual, and probably devoid of pleasure.
Santa Barbara
20-12-2005, 03:43
Not that it matters, but I never specifically mentioned what genus I was talking about - merely that it was from the kingdom Animalae.

Er, you said Bonobo Monkeys, but a monkey =/= chimpanzee. You're right that it doesn't matter, but I have to nit-pick too. :P


Also, masturbation suggests pleasuring oneself sexually. Microbial mitosis is most certainly asexual, and probably devoid of pleasure.

Well, but how do we really know? They must have SOME reason they do it. I'm guessing they get off on it. I mean, I would. Wouldn't you? I mean I masturbate and I don't even get a free clone of myself in the process!
The Jovian Moons
20-12-2005, 03:44
Also, masturbation suggests pleasuring oneself sexually. Microbial mitosis is most certainly asexual, and probably devoid of pleasure.

HAHA! Sucks to be a signle celled organism...
The Tribes Of Longton
20-12-2005, 03:52
Er, you said Bonobo Monkeys, but a monkey =/= chimpanzee. You're right that it doesn't matter, but I have to nit-pick too. :PMeh, blame it on the time here. Also, the hallucinations.Well, but how do we really know? They must have SOME reason they do it. I'm guessing they get off on it. I mean, I would. Wouldn't you? I mean I masturbate and I don't even get a free clone of myself in the process!
When it comes to this, I take the Dawkins view that cells are merely sacks to transport genetic material.
Man in Black
20-12-2005, 04:00
Why is there brail on drive thru ATMs???
The plates for ATM's are all manufactured to work for any ATM. They use the same ones on drive thrues and walk ups. Saves the companies money. ;)
Man in Black
20-12-2005, 04:03
Here's one, but technically, I've asked it. But all I got was yelled at.

Why do women who wear skin tight shirts with their nipples sticking out, and short skirts up past their ass, get mad when you stare at them?

Seriously, if you don't want to be treated like a sexually object, keep your shit put away.
New Stalinberg
20-12-2005, 04:04
My hedgehog would make himself feel good... My God that was strange... I mean... Well let's just put it this way. If we were built the same way, or erections would reach our chins... My female hedgehog doesn't do that though... I don't know how she would...*Crawls under a rock*
Posi
20-12-2005, 04:18
Here's one, but technically, I've asked it. But all I got was yelled at.

Why do women who wear skin tight shirts with their nipples sticking out, and short skirts up past their ass, get mad when you stare at them?

Seriously, if you don't want to be treated like a sexually object, keep your shit put away.
Women are just looking for a reason to get pissed off.:p

If music labels are so worried about people downloading music and burnning music, why didn't the go after the CDR manufacturers?
Kreitzmoorland
20-12-2005, 04:20
No, he's bread and wine....


*angry mob chases*

What?
Jesus is cheeze whiz.
Santa Barbara
20-12-2005, 04:30
When it comes to this, I take the Dawkins view that cells are merely sacks to transport genetic material.

Oh, I agree, but that doesn't mean sacks don't *enjoy* getting a little now and then.

The lack of a CNS probably does, but oh well. I like personifying amoebas anyway! :p
Texoma Land
20-12-2005, 04:31
The plates for ATM's are all manufactured to work for any ATM. They use the same ones on drive thrues and walk ups. Saves the companies money. ;)

You also have to take into account that while the blind don't drive, they do ride in taxi cabs. I've gone thorugh a drive through ATM in a cab a time or two myself. And you sure as hell don't want to give your card and pin number to the cab driver for him/her to pull out money for you. It's best to do it yourself from the back seat.
PasturePastry
20-12-2005, 06:40
Not a question I have wanted to ask, but an answer I have wanted to give to the question of "Does this outfit make me look fat?"

"No, it's the fat that makes you look fat."
The Atlantian islands
20-12-2005, 06:43
What is "doing it"?

And more importantly, what is "it"?
Megaloria
20-12-2005, 06:49
What is "doing it"?

And more importantly, what is "it"?

I'll tell you when you're older.
The Atlantian islands
20-12-2005, 06:52
I'll tell you when you're older.

Ohh its about that stuff

*putts on earmuffs*

*hits puberty*
Cspalla
20-12-2005, 07:00
Here's one, but technically, I've asked it. But all I got was yelled at.

Why do women who wear skin tight shirts with their nipples sticking out, and short skirts up past their ass, get mad when you stare at them?

Seriously, if you don't want to be treated like a sexually object, keep your shit put away.

Easy. Getting looked at inflates their ego, they're just in denial about it.
Xanthal
20-12-2005, 07:03
Do the public ladies' restrooms have anything like urinals? If not, do they get more sit-down toilets than the mens' restroom or is the space used for something else? Also, do the ladies' room toilets have hinged seats or are they just built into the rims?
Posi
20-12-2005, 07:05
Do the public ladies' restrooms have anything like urinals? If not, do they get more sit-down toilets than the mens' restroom or is the space used for something else? Also, do the ladies' room toilets have hinged seats or are they just built into the rims?
The ladies room doesn't even have toilets. The floor is simply shaped like a funnel.
Ravenclaws
20-12-2005, 07:08
Is it really that difficult for women to put a toilet seat down?
Megaloria
20-12-2005, 07:10
The ladies room doesn't even have toilets. The floor is simply shaped like a funnel.

This explains why they go in groups. On one hand you have the need to support each other so as not to land face-down in peepee. On the other hand you have...Urine Races.
Svalbardania
20-12-2005, 07:33
This explains why they go in groups. On one hand you have the need to support each other so as not to land face-down in peepee. On the other hand you have...Urine Races.

Well, men do those too... we just dont try to hide it
Santa Barbara
20-12-2005, 07:36
Easy. Getting looked at inflates their ego, they're just in denial about it.

That's not all that gets inflated.
Cabra West
20-12-2005, 08:13
"Do nuns have lesbian sex?"

Having lived in a convent for a few weeks, I would say "no". But I'm pretty certain that there are exceptions.
Lunatic Goofballs
20-12-2005, 08:16
You'd let people do that too if you were the son of god.

Nope. Ritual pie fights and Roshambo contests. :D
Lunatic Goofballs
20-12-2005, 08:18
He didn't mean it literally.

Here's another question. Why does God only talk to people with silly hats?

Better reception?
The Similized world
20-12-2005, 08:26
Better reception?So much for the tinfoil theory *Puts away his hat*
Grainne Ni Malley
20-12-2005, 08:28
Having lived in a convent for a few weeks, I would say "no". But I'm pretty certain that there are exceptions.

I don't think anybody took my question seriously. With all the time I spent in catholic school, I really wondered! Ok, so it was a perverted question, but it was a sincere one! Thanks. ;)
Cabra West
20-12-2005, 08:32
I don't think anybody took my question seriously. With all the time I spent in catholic school, I really wondered! Ok, so it was a perverted question, but it was a sincere one! Thanks. ;)

Hey, it still makes for great roleplays, though ;)
Grainne Ni Malley
20-12-2005, 08:46
Hey, it still makes for great roleplays, though ;)

I'll meet you in half an hour.
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 08:52
Why do women have this need to either A. watch drama on TV (Lifetime etc.) or B. have drama in their lives?

What would women do if they were with a HOT looking guy, but he sucked in bed?

Why do people in general know trivial stuff like sports stats, or what Paris Hilton did over the weekend, but they can't even name their senators? (Don't google yours to prove me wrong.)

Who the hell started the whole Political Correct movement, and why haven't anyone kill him/her yet?

Why do girls date "bad boys" but bitch to their nice guy friend when their "bad boys" mistreat them. Then after they break up with the "bad boy", they say stuff like, I wish I could meet a nice guy, but they never ask the nice guy who listens to all this crap out?

Why do people say things but mean something else, STOP IT!

What is the deal with slang, what, is english not good enough for you?

Why do people associate pilots with money?

Thats all I can think of.
The Arch Wobbly
20-12-2005, 09:08
Why do women have this need to either A. watch drama on TV (Lifetime etc.) or B. have drama in their lives?

What would women do if they were with a HOT looking guy, but he sucked in bed?

Stereotypes. All women don't.



Why do girls date "bad boys" but bitch to their nice guy friend when their "bad boys" mistreat them. Then after they break up with the "bad boy", they say stuff like, I wish I could meet a nice guy, but they never ask the nice guy who listens to all this crap out?

Excitement.

Why do people say things but mean something else, STOP IT!

It's called pragmatics, and it's a normal part of speech.

What is the deal with slang, what, is english not good enough for you?

Slang is part of a language.

Why do people associate pilots with money?

Because they get paid a hell of a lot.

Thats all I can think of.

In bold.

EDIT: Hisss, spelling.
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 09:16
Originally Posted by Stone Bridges
Why do women have this need to either A. watch drama on TV (Lifetime etc.) or B. have drama in their lives?

What would women do if they were with a HOT looking guy, but he sucked in bed?

Stereotypes. All women don't.

Just answear the question.

Why do girls date "bad boys" but bitch to their nice guy friend when their "bad boys" mistreat them. Then after they break up with the "bad boy", they say stuff like, I wish I could meet a nice guy, but they never ask the nice guy who listens to all this crap out?

Excitement.

Then why do you tell the nice guy that you wish you could meet a nice guy, and then proceed to go out with another bad boy? Stop screwing around with the nice guy's feelings!

Why do people say things but mean something else, STOP IT!

It's called pragmatics, and it's a normal part of speech.

What I ment was well lets say your spouse says nothing is wrong, but something is wrong, even though he/she says nothing is wrong. Jeez, no wonder guys die earlier than women.

What is the deal with slang, what, is english not good enough for you?

Slang is part of a language.

What language?

Why do people associate pilots with money?

Because they get paid a hell of a lot.

Yes but aviation is only a hobby for me and I'm middle class, I'm not rich.



My response in bold and I still want an answear to the following questions.

What would women do if they were with a HOT looking guy, but he sucked in bed?

Why do people in general know trivial stuff like sports stats, or what Paris Hilton did over the weekend, but they can't even name their senators? (Don't google yours to prove me wrong.)

Who the hell started the whole Political Correct movement, and why haven't anyone kill him/her yet?
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 09:16
Some questions:

1) As a gay male, I need to ask this question; why do straight guys get offended if a gay male, such as I, innocently approach you, comment on how great you look then proceed to ask whether gay/bi? I mean, if I were straight, and a gay person approached, I'd be fucking happy to say the least if both sides of the fench wanted to get into my pants!

2) I would like to know why women demand equal pay for the same job as their male counterparts, but then turn around and expect more holidays in the form of paid maternity leave and other perks - if they get paid maternity leave, can I, as a gay male get fashion leave so that I can fly to Paris for a few weeks and admire the latest collections?

3) Babys and couples; why have children? and if so, why is there an expectation by couples that they should receive tax beaks and social welfare hand outs, simply so they can keep pumping out more kids than they can afford?
Potaria
20-12-2005, 09:19
"Dad, why are you such a dick?"

Heh. I wonder what'd happen if I asked that doozie.
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 09:23
Some questions:

1) As a gay male, I need to ask this question; why do straight guys get offended if a gay male, such as I, innocently approach you, comment on how great you look then proceed to ask whether gay/bi? I mean, if I were straight, and a gay person approached, I'd be fucking happy to say the least if both sides of the fench wanted to get into my pants!

Because we are worried that we might be sending out the wrong message so to speak. We want to attrract women. I mean having a guy comment on our looks has the same affect of our mom's doing that. It's nothing personal, it's just that we get turned on more when a women comment on our looks then guys. Also, most of us just want the one side of the fench, instead of both sides.


2) I would like to know why women demand equal pay for the same job as their male counterparts, but then turn around and expect more holidays in the form of paid maternity leave and other perks - if they get paid maternity leave, can I, as a gay male get fashion leave so that I can fly to Paris for a few weeks and admire the latest collections?


Because they think they are "oppressed" and that since women "endure" more than men, then they should get more perks. And no you can't get the maternity leave unless your partner is pushing out a baby.


3) Babys and couples; why have children? and if so, why is there an expectation by couples that they should receive tax beaks and social welfare hand outs, simply so they can keep pumping out more kids than they can afford?

I dunno why, I'm confused about this myself. Hell I wish single people like myself would get taxs break. I mean we are the one saving the government money by not reproducing and supporting ourselves!
The Similized world
20-12-2005, 09:28
Some questions:

1) As a gay male, I need to ask this question; why do straight guys get offended if a gay male, such as I, innocently approach you, comment on how great you look then proceed to ask whether gay/bi? I mean, if I were straight, and a gay person approached, I'd be fucking happy to say the least if both sides of the fench wanted to get into my pants!I've been wondering about that as well.

2) I would like to know why women demand equal pay for the same job as their male counterparts, but then turn around and expect more holidays in the form of paid maternity leave and other perks - if they get paid maternity leave, can I, as a gay male get fashion leave so that I can fly to Paris for a few weeks and admire the latest collections?They don't expect it. They have to have those things, because their partners don't want to go on leave & take care of the wee ones.

3) Babys and couples; why have children? and if so, why is there an expectation by couples that they should receive tax beaks and social welfare hand outs, simply so they can keep pumping out more kids than they can afford?Because children are your future, our birth rates are extremely low, and we have a silly thing called borders, so we can't count on a bunch of forigners to continue our societies & take care of us when we get too old & senile to do it ourselves.

Besides, since children are an overall sound investment for our societies, it's only fair that we help people have some. It benefits us as well.
Other than that, there's no reason why gays with children shouldn't recive the same benefits as every other parent.
The Arch Wobbly
20-12-2005, 09:36
Some questions:

2) I would like to know why women demand equal pay for the same job as their male counterparts, but then turn around and expect more holidays in the form of paid maternity leave and other perks - if they get paid maternity leave, can I, as a gay male get fashion leave so that I can fly to Paris for a few weeks and admire the latest collections?



What? Men get that, too. It's called paternity leave.
Intangelon
20-12-2005, 09:38
Here's one I'd love to ask:

Whiggas -- why?

A Whigga is a middle-class or more indulged non-Black adolescent who adopts the manners of Black popular culture, usually rap and/or hip-hop. This typically includes dress, mannerisms and a complete and total absence of consideration or respect for anyone other than themselves or perhaps their "posse" (or "crew" or "gang" or "gaggle" or whatever the f**k they're calling themselves now).

The ability to put oneself in another's position is fundamental to manners and social exchange. Belligerent and even proud, unenlightened self-interest is a cancer in this nation. So I'm wondering: is it just standard adolescent rebellion or is there something else? By the way, yes, I'm laughing at you in your stupid-ass lowered car with the teeny wheels and no suspension because I know that to win a race with you, all I need to do is go through any parking lot with speed bumps. I'm also inwardly HOWLING at your baggy-ass pants and protruding underwear. Of course you have the right to wear what you want to -- and I have the right to laugh my ass off.

Cheers!
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 09:39
Because we are worried that we might be sending out the wrong message so to speak. We want to attrract women. I mean having a guy comment on our looks has the same affect of our mom's doing that. It's nothing personal, it's just that we get turned on more when a women comment on our looks then guys. Also, most of us just want the one side of the fench, instead of both sides.

True, but at the same time, why not go, "well, I appreciate those compliments, but don't take this the wrong way, but I'm actually straight" - certainly don't take offence if a female passes comments.

Because they think they are "oppressed" and that since women "endure" more than men, then they should get more perks. And no you can't get the maternity leave unless your partner is pushing out a baby.

To which I ask, who chose to have a baby? take this, if you would find the costs of paying back a loan for a 79inch plasma screen television set too stressful and might put a strain on the finances, the options are either you don't purchase it OR you simply choose a small version of it.

Same goes for having children, if you don't want to go through all the pain, agony and shit associated with being pregnant, then SHOCK! HORROR! don't get pregnant!

I dunno why, I'm confused about this myself. Hell I wish single people like myself would get taxs break. I mean we are the one saving the government money by not reproducing and supporting ourselves!

Or a low tax rate that goes up with each child a couple has - it starts off on a flat rate of 10% and simply goes up with each child the couple decidest to have.
Intangelon
20-12-2005, 09:45
Some questions:

1) As a gay male, I need to ask this question; why do straight guys get offended if a gay male, such as I, innocently approach you, comment on how great you look then proceed to ask whether gay/bi? I mean, if I were straight, and a gay person approached, I'd be fucking happy to say the least if both sides of the fench wanted to get into my pants!


As would I, but you're being ridiculously naive if you can't answer that question yourself. Surely you've recognized that the average young straight male holds on to his masculinity with the same death-grip he uses to masturbate (which, ironically, makes him a lousy hetero lover in most cases). As a result, anything even remotely threatening to it gets instantly ridiculed, deridied and, if you're far enough away from an urban center, beath the shit out of. Such is the way of the pack-mentality straight male: challenge him to think for himself and the first thing that struggles across his mind is "why should I"? Your best bet is avoidance -- you're not gonna educate any of them out in the field. One-on-one, you might be able to convince him that you're a human being with rights, but so much anti-homo inculcation (parents, peers, religion) has already happened in most cases that anything anathema to how they've been brainwashed, no matter how reasonably presented, will be dismissed out of hand. Sure it's not always true, but you're still taking a fairly big risk to approach and flatter someone you don't already know is gay. And I say fair play to you if you do -- life's too short to live in fear.
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 09:46
True, but at the same time, why not go, "well, I appreciate those compliments, but don't take this the wrong way, but I'm actually straight" - certainly don't take offence if a female passes comments.



To which I ask, who chose to have a baby? take this, if you would find the costs of paying back a loan for a 79inch plasma screen television set too stressful and might put a strain on the finances, the options are either you don't purchase it OR you simply choose a small version of it.

Same goes for having children, if you don't want to go through all the pain, agony and shit associated with being pregnant, then SHOCK! HORROR! don't get pregnant!



Or a low tax rate that goes up with each child a couple has - it starts off on a flat rate of 10% and simply goes up with each child the couple decidest to have.


I like the way you think about the whole children issues. I'm going to be honest, I don't want children. I may want a wife, but I do not want children. I just have other things in my life that I want to do, and I know I can't accomplish them if I have to divert the funds to children. I mean I love children, I play with my brother's son all the time, but children just aren't for me.
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 09:47
They don't expect it. They have to have those things, because their partners don't want to go on leave & take care of the wee ones.

But this is a choice COUPLES make - why should, again, a single male get paid the same as a female who choses to have children and expects a paid maternity leave programme?

I have no problems with the idea of a paid maternity leave programme on the basis that its not tax payer funded, businesses aren't forced to provide it, and if women want it, their willingness to accept a lower pay in favour, at a later date, of a possible generous paid maternity leave - less money now in favour of maternity leave in the future OR more money now, save the money, then take leave without pay when having the kid.

Because children are your future, our birth rates are extremely low, and we have a silly thing called borders, so we can't count on a bunch of forigners to continue our societies & take care of us when we get too old & senile to do it ourselves.

Besides, since children are an overall sound investment for our societies, it's only fair that we help people have some. It benefits us as well.
Other than that, there's no reason why gays with children shouldn't recive the same benefits as every other parent.

Excuse me, but it isn't MY responsibility to pay parents to pump out babies, why should I allow the government to steal money out of my pay each week so that it can get re-directed to some chav family who thinks its their 'right' to pump out 6 kids at socities expense - do a half ass job raising these little shits, then expect ME in my later years to then FUND the cost of accomodation for these little shits when they end up in prison.

Will I have kids? most likely. Who will support them, I will. I made the choice to have children, there for it is MY responsibility to fund MY lifestyle choice of having those children - no one elses.
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 09:49
But this is a choice COUPLES make - why should, again, a single male get paid the same as a female who choses to have children and expects a paid maternity leave programme?

I have no problems with the idea of a paid maternity leave programme on the basis that its not tax payer funded, businesses aren't forced to provide it, and if women want it, their willingness to accept a lower pay in favour, at a later date, of a possible generous paid maternity leave - less money now in favour of maternity leave in the future OR more money now, save the money, then take leave without pay when having the kid.



Excuse me, but it isn't MY responsibility to pay parents to pump out babies, why should I allow the government to steal money out of my pay each week so that it can get re-directed to some chav family who thinks its their 'right' to pump out 6 kids at socities expense - do a half ass job raising these little shits, then expect ME in my later years to then FUND the cost of accomodation for these little shits when they end up in prison.

Will I have kids? most likely. Who will support them, I will. I made the choice to have children, there for it is MY responsibility to fund MY lifestyle choice of having those children - no one elses.


HEAR HEAR! Lovely Boys, if you're ever in my neck of the woods, I'm going to buy you a beer!
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 09:51
As would I, but you're being ridiculously naive if you can't answer that question yourself. Surely you've recognized that the average young straight male holds on to his masculinity with the same death-grip he uses to masturbate (which, ironically, makes him a lousy hetero lover in most cases). As a result, anything even remotely threatening to it gets instantly ridiculed, deridied and, if you're far enough away from an urban center, beath the shit out of. Such is the way of the pack-mentality straight male: challenge him to think for himself and the first thing that struggles across his mind is "why should I"? Your best bet is avoidance -- you're not gonna educate any of them out in the field. One-on-one, you might be able to convince him that you're a human being with rights, but so much anti-homo inculcation (parents, peers, religion) has already happened in most cases that anything anathema to how they've been brainwashed, no matter how reasonably presented, will be dismissed out of hand. Sure it's not always true, but you're still taking a fairly big risk to approach and flatter someone you don't already know is gay. And I say fair play to you if you do -- life's too short to live in fear.

See, that is the stupid thing; the assumption that one has to be a 'fairy' to be gay - I mean, if a gay person comes up to a straight guy, one could, if on had a large ego, assume that the attraction is the raw manliness of the individual :)

I"ve love to approach guys who I think maybe gay, but I'm always worried about the backlash; I'm a complete nancy boy when it comes to defence and I would most likely run in the opposit direction :(
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 09:55
See, that is the stupid thing; the assumption that one has to be a 'fairy' to be gay - I mean, if a gay person comes up to a straight guy, one could, if on had a large ego, assume that the attraction is the raw manliness of the individual :)

I"ve love to approach guys who I think maybe gay, but I'm always worried about the backlash; I'm a complete nancy boy when it comes to defence and I would most likely run in the opposit direction :(

Not all gay are fairies. Comon people, even lumberjacks can be gay. I say we should stop trying to sterotype everyone and just accept everyone as a person and love them as a person. Remember Jesus Christ taught us to love one another as we would've loved ourselves. Now please don't go into the Old Testament to drag up the whole homosexuality issuse. Because one person approach Jesus, and asked him which commandment is the most important. Jesus says neither, for he is the new law. If you are a Christian (I am a Roman Catholic), then you should follow Jesus's teaching, instead of the laws of the Old Testament.

sorry for the rant.
Cabra West
20-12-2005, 09:55
"Dad, why are you such a dick?"

Heh. I wonder what'd happen if I asked that doozie.

I did ask that at one point... it's not a good idea. I barely survived...
Harlesburg
20-12-2005, 09:55
Pretty sure I saw a special on Animal Planet about Chimp's jerking off.
Yeah i saw something like that on the net.
I got a PC Virus for my troubles.............:mp5:


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Do you wat to have sex with me?
The Similized world
20-12-2005, 09:56
Because we are worried that we might be sending out the wrong message so to speak. We want to attrract women. I mean having a guy comment on our looks has the same affect of our mom's doing that. It's nothing personal, it's just that we get turned on more when a women comment on our looks then guys. Also, most of us just want the one side of the fench, instead of both sides.That's plain nonsense. Hell, people write songs with lyrics like "I wish I was gay so I could get chicks".
Do the math. If straight chicks all dig gays & gays think you're gay, then obviously you're doing something right.

@ that masculinity thing. I'm bi. I don't think anyone in his right mind would question my masculinity to my face - at least not unarmed. I have no idea what masculinity has to do with sexual orientation, but personally I'd say it's a hell of a lot more manly screwing a mate than some little twat.
Hell, whole warrior cultures revolved around that concept. Doesn't get much more masculine than that.
Intangelon
20-12-2005, 09:56
See, that is the stupid thing; the assumption that one has to be a 'fairy' to be gay - I mean, if a gay person comes up to a straight guy, one could, if on had a large ego, assume that the attraction is the raw manliness of the individual :)

I"ve love to approach guys who I think maybe gay, but I'm always worried about the backlash; I'm a complete nancy boy when it comes to defence and I would most likely run in the opposit direction :(
Well, that's just one more side of the willful ignorance (ignorance + apathy = stupidity) homophobes swim in -- a refusal to bellieve that, like the straight comunity, there's more than one kind of gay person. We might all even (dare I say it) have the right to be completely individual and different form one another no matter what orientation (or race or religion or political stripe) we are.

But to some folks, that's like searching a basement at midnight without a flashlight for a black cat that isn't there: impossible and a waste of time.
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 09:57
HEAR HEAR! Lovely Boys, if you're ever in my neck of the woods, I'm going to buy you a beer!

<Blushes> I would be honoured to partake in a pint of beer :D

My whole philosophy has been this; what you do in your own life is none of my concern, as long as it doesn't cost me now or in the future.

Like the debate with kids, I have no qualms with people choosing to have children, but it is up to the couple to carry those costs; and yes, I have seen couples on moderate incomes use their smarts and able to afford to raise 6 children - they cut back on luxaries, they buy smart when they're down the road and they don't live a materially rich existance (beyond the necessities) and value family time over purchasing the latest and greatest gizmos.

So I do find it funny, in the previous posters, who think that somehow, with out this subsidised breeding scheme 'the whole nation will start shrinking' when the reality has always shown, people will have children, irrespective of what their financial situation is or whether there is an 'incentive scheme'.
The Arch Wobbly
20-12-2005, 09:58
Well, that's just one more side of the willful ignorance (ignorance + apathy = stupidity) homophobes swim in -- a refusal to bellieve that, like the straight comunity, there's more than one kind of gay person. We might all even (dare I say it) have the right to be completely individual and different form one another no matter what orientation (or race or religion or political stripe) we are.

Translation: "I hate the way straight people stereotype me. They're all the same! I AM the only gay in the village!"
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 10:00
That's plain nonsense. Hell, people write songs with lyrics like "I wish I was gay so I could get chicks".
Do the math. If straight chicks all dig gays & gays think you're gay, then obviously you're doing something right.

@ that masculinity thing. I'm bi. I don't think anyone in his right mind would question my masculinity to my face - at least not unarmed. I have no idea what masculinity has to do with sexual orientation, but personally I'd say it's a hell of a lot more manly screwing a mate than some little twat.
Hell, whole warrior cultures revolved around that concept. Doesn't get much more masculine than that.

Please tell me what song that came out of. The only reason MOST chicks dig gay guys because they don't see gays as threating, they see them as their "girlfriends". Trust me, guys who are trying to pick up chicks do not want to be the chick's "girlfriend". Because once we are their "Girlfriend" then we have to put up with all of their mudane stuff that is equivlance to banging our head against the wall. Apparently people think the more "manly" you are, the straigther you are. I don't get it either, I know some straight guys that are well feminine themselves. Now the whole warriors sleeping with warriors things. The only reason the Romans (maybe the greeks) did that so that the soilder would have some sort of connection to that soilder, that way you're more prone to defend a comrad. I doubt it was anything romantic/sexual really.
Harlesburg
20-12-2005, 10:02
Please answer this for me.....

Several animal rights groups have protested the continuing use of fur as a material for clothing.

"This is an outrage!" cries Samuel McAlpin, president of the Be Nice To Animals society. "The manufacture of fur apparel is unethical, cruel, and disgusting! People just don't seem to realise that millions of animals die each year in fur farms, crammed into tiny cages and suffering the most terrible treatment just so someone can look appealing and rich! This is a sick practice and must be stopped! The same can go for leather shoes and snakeskin belts too."

"You can't mean that, surely?" snorts Bill McGuffin, adjusting his hat, made from real Bleeding Heart Liberal hide. "It's the people's choice what they wear. I don't think it's fair that the majority of the public should be deprived of fur clothes because some people are a bit queasy. In fact, if the government would allow us to stock rarer animals, we could produce even finer products. In the end, it's up to the consumer, don't you think?"
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 10:02
<Blushes> I would be honoured to partake in a pint of beer :D

My whole philosophy has been this; what you do in your own life is none of my concern, as long as it doesn't cost me now or in the future.

Like the debate with kids, I have no qualms with people choosing to have children, but it is up to the couple to carry those costs; and yes, I have seen couples on moderate incomes use their smarts and able to afford to raise 6 children - they cut back on luxaries, they buy smart when they're down the road and they don't live a materially rich existance (beyond the necessities) and value family time over purchasing the latest and greatest gizmos.

So I do find it funny, in the previous posters, who think that somehow, with out this subsidised breeding scheme 'the whole nation will start shrinking' when the reality has always shown, people will have children, irrespective of what their financial situation is or whether there is an 'incentive scheme'.

I have a similiar philosophy, "What you do in the privacy of your own home is none of my damn business." I hate it when people ask for government handouts for anything really, whether it's for children or themselves. Whatever happen to the generation that could make it on their own without the help of the government?
The Similized world
20-12-2005, 10:03
<Blushes> I would be honoured to partake in a pint of beer :D

My whole philosophy has been this; what you do in your own life is none of my concern, as long as it doesn't cost me now or in the future.

Like the debate with kids, I have no qualms with people choosing to have children, but it is up to the couple to carry those costs; and yes, I have seen couples on moderate incomes use their smarts and able to afford to raise 6 children - they cut back on luxaries, they by smart when they're down the road and they don't live a materially rich existance (beyond the necessities).

So I do find it funny, in the previous posters, who think that somehow, with out this subsidised breeding scheme 'the whole nation will start shrinking' when the reality has always shown, people will have children, irrespective of what their financial situation is or whether there is an 'incentive scheme'.It wasn't really my point. The point is the kids the fuckers are pumping out will in turn subsidise a hell of a lot of old wankers. Though you might be an execption, people in general are getting a return on their investment.

And no, I'm not in any way promoting that system, I was simply stating WHY it is like it is. Make no mistake, I'm not a fan of taxes or anything else of the sort. If I steal from the government & call it TAX, I get locked up. It's only fair to do the same with the government then, I think.
Intangelon
20-12-2005, 10:04
--snip-- Now the whole warriors sleeping with warriors things. The only reason the Romans (maybe the greeks) did that so that the soilder would have some sort of connection to that soilder, that way you're more prone to defend a comrad. I doubt it was anything romantic/sexual really.

You're kdding, right? For the love of all that's holy, please read a few more books before you post something that inaccurate. You're actually saying that the sex made them more likely to defend each other (like a straight man would be more likely to defend a female lover than a stranger) but wasn't about love or sexuality. Okaaaay.:rolleyes:
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 10:05
Well, that's just one more side of the willful ignorance (ignorance + apathy = stupidity) homophobes swim in -- a refusal to bellieve that, like the straight comunity, there's more than one kind of gay person. We might all even (dare I say it) have the right to be completely individual and different form one another no matter what orientation (or race or religion or political stripe) we are.

But to some folks, that's like searching a basement at midnight without a flashlight for a black cat that isn't there: impossible and a waste of time.

Its unfortunate, however, that my experience has shown me that there are still a large number of straight guys who take offence to even the slightest hint that another guy might possibly find them attractive.

Like I said before, if a female found me attractive, I wouldn't take offence, I would find it a complimentry.

Like I said about 'faries' - if another guy compliments them, then they think that someone might thin they're gay, then their whole perceived 'masculinity' is up the shitter because according to stereotype logic, he there fore must have been a girly man to have a gay man attracted to him etc. etc.
Intangelon
20-12-2005, 10:06
Please answer this for me.....

Several animal rights groups have protested the continuing use of fur as a material for clothing.

"This is an outrage!" cries Samuel McAlpin, president of the Be Nice To Animals society. "The manufacture of fur apparel is unethical, cruel, and disgusting! People just don't seem to realise that millions of animals die each year in fur farms, crammed into tiny cages and suffering the most terrible treatment just so someone can look appealing and rich! This is a sick practice and must be stopped! The same can go for leather shoes and snakeskin belts too."

"You can't mean that, surely?" snorts Bill McGuffin, adjusting his hat, made from real Bleeding Heart Liberal hide. "It's the people's choice what they wear. I don't think it's fair that the majority of the public should be deprived of fur clothes because some people are a bit queasy. In fact, if the government would allow us to stock rarer animals, we could produce even finer products. In the end, it's up to the consumer, don't you think?"
Best thing to do when the choices are crap (as many are) is to dismiss the issue. That occasionally lowers taxes, too, though I'm not sure how or why.
Posi
20-12-2005, 10:06
Some questions:

1) As a gay male, I need to ask this question; why do straight guys get offended if a gay male, such as I, innocently approach you, comment on how great you look then proceed to ask whether gay/bi? I mean, if I were straight, and a gay person approached, I'd be fucking happy to say the least if both sides of the fench wanted to get into my pants!
Homophobia to the point that dressing nicely is considered a bad thing.
2) I would like to know why women demand equal pay for the same job as their male counterparts, but then turn around and expect more holidays in the form of paid maternity leave and other perks - if they get paid maternity leave, can I, as a gay male get fashion leave so that I can fly to Paris for a few weeks and admire the latest collections?
People are greedy, women are people. Not as long as you are a minority;).

3) Babys and couples; why have children? and if so, why is there an expectation by couples that they should receive tax beaks and social welfare hand outs, simply so they can keep pumping out more kids than they can afford?
It's what breeders like to do. Accually biology has alot to do with it. The get tax breaks to encourage people to have babies so there is money in your pension for when you retire.
Intangelon
20-12-2005, 10:07
Translation: "I hate the way straight people stereotype me. They're all the same! I AM the only gay in the village!"
Forgive my obstuseness, but I don't understand where you were going with that statement. Sorry!:confused:
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 10:07
Personally I think you should be taxed the same amount you take out, or plan on taking out (retirement). The tax system in the United States really is sucky at best. I mean here in North Carolina it's 30% of my paycheck! For those who hate the tax system in the United States, please support the Fair Tax Program.

www.fairtax.org

What it basically does is, you're only taxed on what you buy. So for those of us who don't spend our money like drunken sailor, will actually make it out ahead of those who do.
FMP
20-12-2005, 10:08
"why is life such a bitch? i mean, cant she tone it down a little?"
"why the hell do you have to make lemonade with the lemons life hands you? why cant you make tuna salad or something?"

maby more later...
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 10:09
You're kdding, right? For the love of all that's holy, please read a few more books before you post something that inaccurate. You're actually saying that the sex made them more likely to defend each other (like a straight man would be more likely to defend a female lover than a stranger) but wasn't about love or sexuality. Okaaaay.:rolleyes:

Umm, I am a History major... so yea. It does make sense in a weird way. I mean comon, if you screwed the guy you are more obliged to defend him in the time of battle because well, you screwed him!
The Arch Wobbly
20-12-2005, 10:09
Forgive my obstuseness, but I don't understand where you were going with thst statement. Sorry!:confused:

I was mocking the hypocritical nature of your statements. Then I mentioned Little Britain just because.
Intangelon
20-12-2005, 10:12
Umm, I am a History major... so yea. It does make sense in a weird way. I mean comon, if you screwed the guy you are more obliged to defend him in the time of battle because well, you screwed him!
Being a history major means you're learning what you don't know yet. Read some ancient Greek poetry or accounts of life in military Sparta. Your "because well, you screwed him" is hollow and tautological:

"Why do you screw men and they screw you?"
"So they'll defend me and me, them."
"But you have no sexual or romantic feelings for them and they none for you?"
"No."
"Then why defend them more than if you hadn't screwed them?"
"Uhh........"

Try again.
Harlesburg
20-12-2005, 10:13
Best thing to do when the choices are crap (as many are) is to dismiss the issue. That occasionally lowers taxes, too, though I'm not sure how or why.
Lowers taxes really.....

Question
Is there any cure for 100% tax rate?
Intangelon
20-12-2005, 10:13
I was mocking the hypocritical nature of your statements. Then I mentioned Little Britain just because.

Hypocritical? How?
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 10:15
It wasn't really my point. The point is the kids the fuckers are pumping out will in turn subsidise a hell of a lot of old wankers. Though you might be an execption, people in general are getting a return on their investment.

And like *I* said, we don't need a tax payer funded subsidised breeding scheme, like some sort of studd farm, to ensure the 'continuation of the tax payer' - I see couples down the road with two kids, both working - they CHOOSE to have less children so that they can afford the latest things.

Why the hell should taxes go and fund couples who CHOOSE not to have any more than the amount of children - the logic your ilk spread is some how there is a direct corrilation between birth rate and desposable income, when in actual reality, when desposable income goes UP people have LESS children - when females become MORE educated, they choose to have LESS children (hence the focus of the UN on educating women and children first).

You know, some women actually decide NOT to have children - so why should society give then a guilt trip because they choose not to have children? we have men who live their whole lives single, and dedicate their lives to their jobs - why should there be a double standard for females?

Why should it even be the JOB of the government to some how set 'breeding targets', because I don't know about you, but I certainly don't like being treated as some commodity and by 'value to society' is measured in the number of children my partner and I copulate out with in a space of 10 years.
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 10:16
Being a history major means you're learning what you don't know yet. Read some ancient Greek poetry or accounts of life in military Sparta. Your "because well, you screwed him" is hollow and tautological:

"Why do you screw men and they screw you?"
"So they'll defend me and me, them."
"But you have no sexual or romantic feelings for them and they none for you?"
"No."
"Then why defend them more than if you hadn't screwed them?"
"Uhh........"

Try again.

Look, the whole philosophy behind it was that Sex (it original intend) was to strengthen a bond between two people, most of the time the people were romantically involved. The Spartains took this idea and had their warriors sleep with one another so that the bond between them would be strengthen.

Do we get it now?
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 10:17
And like *I* said, we don't need a tax payer funded subsidised breeding scheme, like some sort of studd farm, to ensure the 'continuation of the tax payer' - I see couples down the road with two kids, both working - they CHOOSE to have less children so that they can afford the latest things.

Why the hell should taxes go and fund couples who CHOOSE not to have any more than the amount of children - the logic your ilk spread is some how there is a direct corrilation between birth rate and desposable income, when in actual reality, when desposable income goes UP people have LESS children - when females become MORE educated, they choose to have LESS children (hence the focus of the UN on educating women and children first).

You know, some women actually decide NOT to have children - so why should society give then a guilt trip because they choose not to have children? we have men who live their whole lives single, and dedicate their lives to their jobs - why should there be a double standard for females?

Why should it even be the JOB of the government to some how set 'breeding targets', because I don't know about you, but I certainly don't like being treated as some commodity and by 'value to society' is measured in the number of children my partner and I copulate out with in a space of 10 years.

Please run for office, I'm serious, I will help you!
Intangelon
20-12-2005, 10:18
Look, the whole philosophy behind it was that Sex (it original intend) was to strengthen a bond between two people, most of the time the people were romantically involved. The Spartains took this idea and had their warriors sleep with one another so that the bond between them would be strengthen.

Do we get it now?

Yes "we" do -- you just contradicted yourself, but hey, don't let that stop you.
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 10:20
Homophobia to the point that dressing nicely is considered a bad thing.

You don't even need to get dressed up - I've seen guys down the road with that rough and ready good looks, so one certainly doesn't need to get dressed up to impress me.

People are greedy, women are people. Not as long as you are a minority;).


It's what breeders like to do. Accually biology has alot to do with it. The get tax breaks to encourage people to have babies so there is money in your pension for when you retire.

Meh, knowing my luck, I'll be murdered in a hate crime because I dared to compliment a guy on how good looks.
Stone Bridges
20-12-2005, 10:21
Yes "we" do -- you just contradicted yourself, but hey, don't let that stop you.

Actually I didn't this was my quote.

Now the whole warriors sleeping with warriors things. The only reason the Romans (maybe the greeks) did that so that the soilder would have some sort of connection to that soilder, that way you're more prone to defend a comrad. I doubt it was anything romantic/sexual really.

See, I stated an opinion, I never stated a fact, and while I had my doubts, I stiill set it up in a way that left room for this.

Have a nice day.
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 10:25
Please run for office, I'm serious, I will help you!

yeah, unfortunately I'm a New Zealander and my upper class english accent wouldn't ride to well with the unwashed masses who the likes of the Republicans and Democats rely on - it would, however, make an interesting debate, especially if I were a Democrat - I would come off more libertarian than a Republican and cause a massive swing in the typically strong Republican voter base - like Clinton did in his first election campaign (after the religious nuts came out in full force, and thus turned off many moderate Republicans)
The Similized world
20-12-2005, 10:26
And like *I* said, <Snip> The logic your ilk spread <Snip>Which part of "I think it's criminal" didn't you get? You asked. I presented the answer. It isn't my answer, and I am not the one responsible for that insane scheme. Don't kill the messenger, eh?

For the record, I'm a sort of libertarian-leaning anarchist. I believe in neither taxes, governments, subsidising, objectifying humans or anything else of the sort. I presented the reason to you, as it is presented by society. Do not make the mistake of thinking that I condone this halfarsed scheme.

I compared it to stealing, because in my opinion, that is exactly what it is. If people want something from me, or people's social constructs wants something from me, they can bloody well ask. If they're extremely polite & make a compelling argument, then I'll consider whether to pitch in or not. Taking my money without my consent is theft. No matter what it's called by the government.
Damor
20-12-2005, 10:34
3) Babys and couples; why have children? and if so, why is there an expectation by couples that they should receive tax beaks and social welfare hand outs, simply so they can keep pumping out more kids than they can afford?It would suck to be the last generation.
Damor
20-12-2005, 10:46
Remember Jesus Christ taught us to love one another as we would've loved ourselves.So what then are the implications of masturbation? Is this a fiat for promiscuous love?
Damor
20-12-2005, 11:01
Taking my money without my consent is theft. No matter what it's called by the government.Isn't remaining a citizen of your country a form of consent? You could always move.
Certainly too much tax is wasted, but some is still needing for things like roads, fire department, police, and other public works and services.
Alchamania
20-12-2005, 11:44
1) As a gay male, I need to ask this question; why do straight guys get offended if a gay male, such as I, innocently approach you, comment on how great you look then proceed to ask whether gay/bi? I mean, if I were straight, and a gay person approached, I'd be fucking happy to say the least if both sides of the fench wanted to get into my pants!
To be honest, I am homophobic, but not in the violent, hateful manner. I don't mind gay people, they can get married, adopt children, hold parades, I don't even care if they are openly affectionate in public. I can even be friends with a gay man, infact I don't think of my gay friends as being gay, it's a non-issue.
However what makes me homophobic is that if they were to show an interest in me I would feel very sick. I can't stand being touched by any male under any circumstances. Hell I don't even really like being touched by women unless I'm intimate with them. A guy making a move on me would find himself quickly rejected and avoided for the rest of his natural life. I'm sorry I don't care how good we were as buddies, you hit on me, I'll get sick just being around you. Don't expect me to be happy if you approach me as a stranger. Think of the ugliest person you know, add a foul stench and imagine them hitting on you. That's what it is like. A man finding me attactive is the worst possible outcome, and fortunately something I almost never have to deal with. I try not to let my disgust show, but I know I tend to show what I'm thinking on my face before I even think it. I'm sorry I feel this way, but I do, people being gay towards me is sickening. If my two best buds started macking on each other I'd say "Whatever," but if one of them made a move on me, I'd be like, "Look I know we've been friend for 15 years now but, Have a nice life."


3) Babys and couples; why have children? and if so, why is there an expectation by couples that they should receive tax beaks and social welfare hand outs, simply so they can keep pumping out more kids than they can afford?

Because you'll end up with the same situation we have in Australia where the number of children being born is less then 2 per couple on average. This means our population is aging. Soon enough most of the population will be in retirement. The economy will collapse. The government is now actively encouraging young women to have children, we have been warned that unless the population starts to increase they will have to open up the borders to everyone, just to ensure we have a work force in 30 years time. Another measure they are considering is shifting the mandatory age for retirement from 65 to 70 possibly even 75.
If this was some far off distant future then I'd say so what, why am I paying now. It has nothing to do with me either way. But this is a very real situation that may occur by the time I retire. I don't know about you but when I get to that point I want my money then to go as far as it can. If skilled workers are hard to find then wages will sky rocket. The money you've spent you're life time saving for retirement will be worth shit.
Lovely Boys
20-12-2005, 17:36
To be honest, I am homophobic, but not in the violent, hateful manner. I don't mind gay people, they can get married, adopt children, hold parades, I don't even care if they are openly affectionate in public. I can even be friends with a gay man, infact I don't think of my gay friends as being gay, it's a non-issue.
However what makes me homophobic is that if they were to show an interest in me I would feel very sick. I can't stand being touched by any male under any circumstances. Hell I don't even really like being touched by women unless I'm intimate with them. A guy making a move on me would find himself quickly rejected and avoided for the rest of his natural life. I'm sorry I don't care how good we were as buddies, you hit on me, I'll get sick just being around you. Don't expect me to be happy if you approach me as a stranger. Think of the ugliest person you know, add a foul stench and imagine them hitting on you. That's what it is like. A man finding me attactive is the worst possible outcome, and fortunately something I almost never have to deal with. I try not to let my disgust show, but I know I tend to show what I'm thinking on my face before I even think it. I'm sorry I feel this way, but I do, people being gay towards me is sickening. If my two best buds started macking on each other I'd say "Whatever," but if one of them made a move on me, I'd be like, "Look I know we've been friend for 15 years now but, Have a nice life."

Yes, but at the same time; if you were approached and asked, "hey, I don't want you to take it the wrong way, but are you gay, because I kinda fancy you" - now are you're saying you would flip your lid? why not just say "Sorry mate, I'm not interested - I'm a 100% ladies man only" - heavens forbid, you just might see him appologise and leave you alone!


Because you'll end up with the same situation we have in Australia where the number of children being born is less then 2 per couple on average. This means our population is aging. Soon enough most of the population will be in retirement. The economy will collapse. The government is now actively encouraging young women to have children, we have been warned that unless the population starts to increase they will have to open up the borders to everyone, just to ensure we have a work force in 30 years time. Another measure they are considering is shifting the mandatory age for retirement from 65 to 70 possibly even 75.
If this was some far off distant future then I'd say so what, why am I paying now. It has nothing to do with me either way. But this is a very real situation that may occur by the time I retire. I don't know about you but when I get to that point I want my money then to go as far as it can. If skilled workers are hard to find then wages will sky rocket. The money you've spent you're life time saving for retirement will be worth shit.

You don't need to open your borders to everyone, just be picky; secondly, you think that people will simply stop having kids on the basis that they receive no incentive from the powers that be?
Damor
20-12-2005, 18:07
secondly, you think that people will simply stop having kids on the basis that they receive no incentive from the powers that be?They're already having less kids than necessary for a healthy future economy. Sure, there will always be a few people that'll have a shitload of kids no matter what. But those few count for little.
Eutrusca
20-12-2005, 18:12
Yes, but at the same time; if you were approached and asked, "hey, I don't want you to take it the wrong way, but are you gay, because I kinda fancy you" - now are you're saying you would flip your lid? why not just say "Sorry mate, I'm not interested - I'm a 100% ladies man only" - heavens forbid, you just might see him appologise and leave you alone!
Actually, I'm almost always flattered when that happens. I consider it a compliment when people, of whatever persuasion are attracted to me. :)
Eutrusca
20-12-2005, 18:13
They're already having less kids than necessary for a healthy future economy. Sure, there will always be a few people that'll have a shitload of kids no matter what. But those few count for little.
I have five. So that makes me "count for little?" Thanks so much! I'm ... underwhelmed. :p
Alchamania
21-12-2005, 01:44
Yes, but at the same time; if you were approached and asked, "hey, I don't want you to take it the wrong way, but are you gay, because I kinda fancy you" - now are you're saying you would flip your lid? why not just say "Sorry mate, I'm not interested - I'm a 100% ladies man only" - heavens forbid, you just might see him appologise and leave you alone!

I never said I flip out, infact I did say I -try- to be respectful. Doesn't change the fact it feels vile.

You don't need to open your borders to everyone, just be picky; secondly, you think that people will simply stop having kids on the basis that they receive no incentive from the powers that be?
This is the ultimatum the government is giving us. Girls have kids, otherwise open boarders. Frankly I'm glad to be leaving under the circumstances.
The Magyar Peoples
21-12-2005, 01:54
I think we need a way to answer some of these questions, so here it is.

Are humans the only species that masterbates? I was just wondering that today... and um... I'm not crazy!

Is Bill Clinton my Dad?
Megaloria
21-12-2005, 01:58
Oh, almost forgot this one.

Anyone else here who can cite five or more occasions of being attracted to a girl and finding out she was currently (if not entirely) interested in women at the time?
The Magyar Peoples
21-12-2005, 02:01
Oh, almost forgot this one.

Anyone else here who can cite five or more occasions of being attracted to a girl and finding out she was currently (if not entirely) interested in women at the time?

No, but I am working on it.
Megaloria
21-12-2005, 02:09
No, but I am working on it.

After the third time, it sort of stops feeling awful and just feels comically impossible, like shooting a series of arrows at a target and splitting each successive with the next. Attention world, this is getting old.
The Magyar Peoples
21-12-2005, 02:10
After the third time, it sort of stops feeling awful and just feels comically impossible, like shooting a series of arrows at a target and splitting each successive with the next. Attention world, this is getting old.

Sounds kinky.
Megaloria
21-12-2005, 02:15
Sounds kinky.

I wish.

No, I actually wish I could locate a reasonably interesting girl who's equal parts naughty, nice, intellectual and physical without her being in the market for another woman herself. Locality would be a plus too, but hey, it's been three years and I can't spend every night hanging out with you lot, can I?
The Magyar Peoples
21-12-2005, 02:16
I wish.

No, I actually wish I could locate a reasonably interesting girl who's equal parts naughty, nice, intellectual and physical without her being in the market for another woman herself. Locality would be a plus too, but hey, it's been three years and I can't spend every night hanging out with you lot, can I?

Damn straight!
Czardas
21-12-2005, 02:24
I wish.

No, I actually wish I could locate a reasonably interesting girl who's equal parts naughty, nice, intellectual and physical without her being in the market for another woman herself. Locality would be a plus too, but hey, it's been three years and I can't spend every night hanging out with you lot, can I?
Yes, you can. I do... :(
Megaloria
21-12-2005, 02:34
Yes, you can. I do... :(

Ouch.
Grave_n_idle
21-12-2005, 04:28
2) I would like to know why women demand equal pay for the same job as their male counterparts, but then turn around and expect more holidays in the form of paid maternity leave and other perks - if they get paid maternity leave, can I, as a gay male get fashion leave so that I can fly to Paris for a few weeks and admire the latest collections?


Quite simple. We realise that we need a next generation. That next generation has to come from somewhere, and that means SOMEONE must have the babies.

Currently, science only allows the females of our species to actually 'carry' the offspring... which is physically, chemically, and psychologically draining on the resources of the woman in question.

Under those circumstances, a little leave is not unreasonable.

And - does this mean they should NOT get other equities in the workplace? Hell no... if a woman is as good (or better) at her job than her male counterparts, she deserves equity, at the very least.


3) Babys and couples; why have children? and if so, why is there an expectation by couples that they should receive tax beaks and social welfare hand outs, simply so they can keep pumping out more kids than they can afford?

Simple. You miss the point.

The tax breaks and welfare are for the children, who need resources, but generate no income.

It's pretty short-sighted to completely ignore the baby, when you are discussing baby-related economics.
Eutrusca
21-12-2005, 04:33
You'd let people do that too if you were the son of god.
He is. We all are. :p
Eutrusca
21-12-2005, 04:35
Microbial mitosis is most certainly asexual, and probably devoid of pleasure.
I've been told it hurts, although I'm not sure how much credence to place in anything Lunatic Goofballs says. :D
Eutrusca
21-12-2005, 04:36
Why do women who wear skin tight shirts with their nipples sticking out, and short skirts up past their ass, get mad when you stare at them?
Actually, I've never had that happen. Perhaps it's just you they get mad at. :D
Eutrusca
21-12-2005, 04:46
1. Why do women have this need to either A. watch drama on TV (Lifetime etc.) or B. have drama in their lives?

2. What would women do if they were with a HOT looking guy, but he sucked in bed?

3. Why do people in general know trivial stuff like sports stats, or what Paris Hilton did over the weekend, but they can't even name their senators? (Don't google yours to prove me wrong.)

4. Who the hell started the whole Political Correct movement, and why haven't anyone kill him/her yet?

5. Why do girls date "bad boys" but bitch to their nice guy friend when their "bad boys" mistreat them. Then after they break up with the "bad boy", they say stuff like, I wish I could meet a nice guy, but they never ask the nice guy who listens to all this crap out?

6. Why do people say things but mean something else, STOP IT!

7. What is the deal with slang, what, is english not good enough for you?

8. Why do people associate pilots with money?
1. Because it's an interesting way to waste time, it makes people notice you, and it pisses men off.

2. Make sure he hits all three places?

3. Um ... too much drama in their lives already?

4. A professor at UNC Chapel Hill, unfortuately. We're still trying to find him!

5. Because there's more drama in dating "bad boys."

6. Poor communication skills??

7. Any language not "dead" is constantly creating new words, which people label as "slang," and which later become just another word.

8. Because owning your own plane is expensive. :p
Eutrusca
21-12-2005, 04:51
Some questions:

1) As a gay male, I need to ask this question; why do straight guys get offended if a gay male, such as I, innocently approach you, comment on how great you look then proceed to ask whether gay/bi? I mean, if I were straight, and a gay person approached, I'd be fucking happy to say the least if both sides of the fench wanted to get into my pants!

2) I would like to know why women demand equal pay for the same job as their male counterparts, but then turn around and expect more holidays in the form of paid maternity leave and other perks - if they get paid maternity leave, can I, as a gay male get fashion leave so that I can fly to Paris for a few weeks and admire the latest collections?

3) Babys and couples; why have children? and if so, why is there an expectation by couples that they should receive tax beaks and social welfare hand outs, simply so they can keep pumping out more kids than they can afford?
1. Some don't. Fass hit on me just a few days ago and I considered it a compliment. :p

2. Adopt and see what happens. :p

3. Immortality, of a sort, and a wish to gift the future. I don't agree with any exemptions, deductions or exclusions, most of which are in there to assuage a block of infuential voters.
The Supreme Rulers
21-12-2005, 05:15
Some questions:

1) As a male, I need to ask this question; why do straight guys get offended if a male, such as I, ly approach you, comment on how great you look then proceed to ask whether /bi? I mean, if I were straight, and a person approached, I'd be ing happy to say the least if both sides of the fench wanted to get into my pants!

Hahaha! Damn ya know what? I am heteros3xual (just making sure to assert myself here, as is male tradition ;) and i have nothing against g4y people, but if a guy ever inquired as to my s3xuality and/or told me i was 'good looking' in so many words, i would be damn flattered. I mean hell, i'd even tell chicks. Just be casually talkin and be like, "ya know what happened the other day? This guy called me hot!" then proceed to say something 'manly' about me asserting my s3xuality and pretty soon she'd be thinkin the same thing that guy was.... oooooh yea....
Lovely Boys
21-12-2005, 05:28
Quite simple. We realise that we need a next generation. That next generation has to come from somewhere, and that means SOMEONE must have the babies.

Currently, science only allows the females of our species to actually 'carry' the offspring... which is physically, chemically, and psychologically draining on the resources of the woman in question.

Under those circumstances, a little leave is not unreasonable.

And - does this mean they should NOT get other equities in the workplace? Hell no... if a woman is as good (or better) at her job than her male counterparts, she deserves equity, at the very least.

I have nothing against leave, and heck, if the women turned around and said, 'Hey, I get paid $30,000 per year, the same as Joe over there - in maybe a year or two I might have a child, can I get the company to take money out of my pay each week so that I can have paid maternity leave?!"

The issue isn't the amount of money, but the amount of work vs. money - if the female is going to get time off from work (and paid!) why should the female get the same pay as another female, for example, who may choose never to have a child?! how about getting paid the same amount as the male who obviously will never have kids!?

Its all about choice - as I said, less pay in favour of paid maternity leave paid by the employer OR higher pay in favour of the individual making the decision when to save money for the time that she will require off, without pay, to have the child.

Simple. You miss the point.

The tax breaks and welfare are for the children, who need resources, but generate no income.

It's pretty short-sighted to completely ignore the baby, when you are discussing baby-related economics.

Which again evidence is lacking; where is the evidence to show there is a direct link between baby production and desposable income? All you end up doing is encouraging the wrong sort to have babies, and those who you do, will never have babies because they have more important aspirations in their life than following the communist manifesto of 'doing it for the great good of the collective!"
Ravenshrike
21-12-2005, 06:15
The plates for ATM's are all manufactured to work for any ATM. They use the same ones on drive thrues and walk ups. Saves the companies money. ;)
No they don't the one inside my bank has no braille, but the drive-thru one does.

See sig for question.