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Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories? I think they just have too much time on their hands.

Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories? I think they just have too much time on their hands.

I think they're out to get us.

Why do people dismiss alternate thinking as conspiracy theories, and promptly ignore them?

Same reason they come up with religions, in very much the same fashions.
The difference usually has to do with the timeframe for the gratification.
Someone gets hurt or irrevocably altered, needs some answers, doesn't have them, has other answers, extrapolates, comes to conclusion that fits the way they feel and gives them closure to boot, with someone being a victor and someone being an enemy, usually.

Why do people dismiss alternate thinking as conspiracy theories, and promptly ignore them?
Most people don't like to have their world-view delusions altered ... it takes a while to believe them.
Or, more succintly - they don't like having their cheese moved.

Why do people dismiss alternate thinking as conspiracy theories, and promptly ignore them?

Because faking the moon landing would be hard to pull off. Not only do you have to fake the whole trip, but you also have to keep close to hundreds if not thousands of people quiet.

Don't get me started on the moon landing... it is a fishy story. That's about th only conspiracy theory I've ever considered be real. There are so many of them, though, so there's probably one or two true ones out there. But a lot of them are really ridiculous, like the one about the US destroying the twin towers themselves, or anything concerning the freemasons or what Dan BRown writes about. ;)

Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories? I think they just have too much time on their hands.
Oh my God, you're one of THEM! THEY sent you to finish me off! This is just a honeytrap set up by the Shadow Government to get me talking about all of those conspiracies I uncovered!

<Swallows cyanide pill>

Don't get me started on the moon landing... it is a fishy story. That's about th only conspiracy theory I've ever considered be real. There are so many of them, though, so there's probably one or two true ones out there. But a lot of them are really ridiculous, like the one about the US destroying the twin towers themselves, or anything concerning the freemasons or what Dan BRown writes about. ;)

I personally think they are all nuts. The only one I ever really consider was the JFK consipracy. Only because Jack Ruby killed Oswald INSIDE a police station.

Oh my God, you're one of THEM! THEY sent you to finish me off! This is just a honeytrap set up by the Shadow Government to get me talking about all of those conspiracies I uncovered!

<Swallows cyanide pill>

Yay I killed someone because of an internet post I made, go me! lol.

Why do people dismiss alternate thinking as conspiracy theories, and promptly ignore them?
It's all a cover up man! A cover up by the S.H.A.D.E. organization! Quick, get to a safehouse before they trace your position and send agents after you!

<Animated corpse dies again from previous cyanide overdose>

Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories? I think they just have too much time on their hands.That's what the shadow government wants you to think.

The X-Files made it trendy.

David Icke made it trendier.
Maybe punch up "Bohemian Grove".

EDIT: time to be more fair and balanced

Try punching up Rexella or Jack Van Impe, too.

My cousin and his best mate come up with some crackers when they're stoned...

I think they just have too much time on their hands.
Keep thinking that. The firm, giant, fly-swatting hand of Federal repression looms over you.

Yeah, I forgot about Kennedy! That's even fishier than the moon landing. Magic bullet... mmmm... taste the word... deliscous!

Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories? I think they just have too much time on their hands.
Well you would say that wouldn't you "Stone Bridges" if that is your real name!?

Because faking the moon landing would be hard to pull off. Not only do you have to fake the whole trip, but you also have to keep close to hundreds if not thousands of people quiet.

Have you ever heard of Bletchley Park?

Have you ever heard of Bletchley Park?

Yes, which sort of ruins the effect you were going for doesn't it:D

Because faking the moon landing would be hard to pull off. Not only do you have to fake the whole trip, but you also have to keep close to hundreds if not thousands of people quiet.
The same thing with the Football/Soccer World Cup in '58. Some people claim it was made in the US, and that the results should be removed. Should you know swedish, their homepage is here. (http://www.konspiration58.com/default.asp)

Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories? I think they just have too much time on their hands.
because some people are incapable of accepting that any of their problems might be their own fault, so find it more comforting to blame (say) the Zionist Occupational Government and their tendency to favour uppity negroes over hardworking white cretins.
This is a bit depressing, really.

Yes, which sort of ruins the effect you were going for doesn't it:D

Not really, it actually saves me the time it would take to explain.:)

I was using Bletchley as an example of an incredibly well kept secret, which wasn't revealed until many years after WW2. I'm guessing that many of the people wouldn't have come out and told their stories if the first guy (I can't remember his name) hadn't started it.

In conclusion, it is possible to keep a project secret as long as the people involved feel that it is the interests of national security to keep quiet.

You don't need a theory, the government is always conspiring on something and you know not to piss them off or the black helicopters will come and take you away.

Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories?
And why do US citizens come up with conspiracy theories significantly more often than the inhabitants of all other nations combined?

Anyone care to explode this European conspiracy theory? ;)

Incidently, I came across a very interesting story a few years ago while researching for a talk on UFOs. Apparently during the cold war, when USSR soldiers were marching into Romania, the Americans rescued a truckload of crown jewels and other artifacts that might have been destroyed by the Soviets. To keep the operation secret the soldiers escorting the truck were told that they were transporting a crashed UFO. For this reason I suspect that some conspiracy theories are started (or at least encouraged) by governments in order to conceal their real activities.

And why do US citizens come up with conspiracy theories significantly more often than the inhabitants of all other nations combined?

Anyone care to explode this European conspiracy theory? ;)

No, the fact that more theories seem to come from America is a cunning ploy to fool you into thinking that America exists when really it doesn't. It's all a evil plot by the freemasons, MI5, MI6, the CIA, the FBI, the KGB, the NSA, the YMCA and the WI to turn us all into giant, sentient cacti.

*runs away gibbering*

Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories? I think they just have too much time on their hands.

Some people are just more likely to see patterns where none might exist. What some interpret as coincidence seems to be purpose to others. That's why some people are more likely to faces in TV noise or pictures of Jesus in their cereals.

no comment .

You don't need a theory, the government is always conspiring on something and you know not to piss them off or the black helicopters will come and take you away.

Oh come now. Black helicopters have not been sent in since Clinton and Reno kidnapped Elian Gonzales for Castro.

Oh come now. Black helicopters have not been sent in since Clinton and Reno kidnapped Elian Gonzales for Castro.

Hey, the point of the black helicopters is to do things and not have the press find out instantly.

Sending in stormtroopers to kidnap that kid though was a shame. :(

You don't need a theory, the government is always conspiring on something and you know not to piss them off or the black helicopters will come and take you away.

:eek: (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/14/google_earth_competition_results/) <-----linky

Hey, the point of the black helicopters is to do things and not have the press find out instantly.

Sending in stormtroopers to kidnap that kid though was a shame. :(

Well, I think black helicopters only apply in cases of grade school children. As I recall all others are openly killed out right (Branch Dividans) for hoarding those legally obtained weapons, or having your family killed while you watch as in the case of Weaver.

Yeah, I forgot about Kennedy! That's even fishier than the moon landing. Magic bullet... mmmm... taste the word... deliscous!

Don't believe what anyone else may have told you; Ted Kennedy never landed on the moon. It was faked to cover up the true purpose of the Chappaquiddick "accident", which was the importation of magic bullets from an ammunition factory in Atlantis. The bullets were subsequently handed over to John Titor, who transported them through time to 1993 and provided them to Hillary Clinton for use in the assassination of Vince Foster. However, the entire conspiracy has been revealed by a renegade NSA agent known only by the code name "Deep Kimchi", so now the truth can be told!

:p

Don't believe what anyone else may have told you; Ted Kennedy never landed on the moon. It was faked to cover up the true purpose of the Chappaquiddick "accident", which was the importation of magic bullets from an ammunition factory in Atlantis. The bullets were subsequently handed over to John Titor, who transported them through time to 1993 and provided them to Hillary Clinton for use in the assassination of Vince Foster. However, the entire conspiracy has been revealed by a renegade NSA agent known only by the code name "Deep Kimchi", so now the truth can be told!

:p

Don't forget that US soldiers are terrorizing Iraqi families (according to John Kerry), as in the photo below:
http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/iraqi_family.jpg

people come up with conspiracy theories because they are possessed by the disembodied spirits of extraterrestrial lizard beings.

ask Straughn. ;)

contemporary science has confirmed, however, that a single bullet not only could have wounded Kennedy and Connolly, but that their wounds are exactly consistent with the expected behaviour of the gun, bullet, and shooter location "theorized" to have kille JFK. The JFK conspiracy theories fail on this fundamental level: instead of becoming clearer that it *was* a conspiracy as time goes by, it is becoming more and more difficult to argue that Oswald didn't act alone. Believe me or don't, but I used to be convinced there had to be something more to it than that, but now find that position increasingly untenable...

The faked moon-landing "thory" is the silliest BS I've ever heard. There's absolutely *zero* evidence for it. Period.


Why so rampant in the US? I don't know that this phenomena is more prevalent in the US, but if it is, it probably has something to do with how secretive our government has been historically, combined with the psychic impact of Watergate. And stuff like Tuskegee...

contemporary science has confirmed, however, that a single bullet not only could have wounded Kennedy and Connolly, but that their wounds are exactly consistent with the expected behaviour of the gun, bullet, and shooter location "theorized" to have kille JFK. The JFK conspiracy theories fail on this fundamental level: instead of becoming clearer that it *was* a conspiracy as time goes by, it is becoming more and more difficult to argue that Oswald didn't act alone. Believe me or don't, but I used to be convinced there had to be something more to it than that, but now find that position increasingly untenable....
About the only possible conspiracy about Kennedy is that some sinister government agency dreliberately distorted and mangled the information available to make it look less like a lone nutcase with a mail order rifle could easily blow away the President.
The only reason nobody's claimed that Hinckley wasn't recruited to the KGB by a midget drag queen dressed as Jodie Foster is because he wasn't shot by some berk shortly after his arrest...

because the alternative is to sit back with complacency and allow institutions such as the government to do what ever the hell they want. you want to know some of the biggest conspiricies of our time? drug companies and religion- dont let them brainwash you.

because the alternative is to sit back with complacency and allow institutions such as the government to do what ever the hell they want. you want to know some of the biggest conspiricies of our time? drug companies and religion- dont let them brainwash you.
Except that most conspiracy theorists invent stupid problems rather than worrying about real ones. That isn't helping anyone.

because the alternative is to sit back with complacency and allow institutions such as the government to do what ever the hell they want. you want to know some of the biggest conspiricies of our time? drug companies and religion- dont let them brainwash you.

*hands Veracita a tin-foil hat*

Now you have a spare.:)

Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories? I think they just have too much time on their hands.

they're trying to hide all the conspiracies by mistyping. the thing we really need to worry about are the people who pretend they don't know about conspiracies. they're the real conspiracy-masters.

:sniper:

I personally think they are all nuts. The only one I ever really consider was the JFK consipracy. Only because Jack Ruby killed Oswald INSIDE a police station.

yes, but which one? I'm tired of hearing about the CIA and the Mafia, as if either of them would do it on their own. obviously Richard Nixon did it, using contacts he had with the CIA from when he was part of the McCarthy paranoia, and using direct and indirect contacts he had with the Mafia as part of the right-wing efforts to overthrow Castro.*

and obviously, if you don't believe in the right conspiracy theory, it must be because you're pretending to believe the wrong one in order to mislead people and HIDE THE TRUTH!

;)

and if anyone asks, you didn't hear any of this from me. in fact, you've never met me. in fact, we never spoke and we aren't speaking now. we never will either. now, rip your computer into little pieces and swallow it. then shred yourself and jump into an incinerator.

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* there's a lot more to all this than most people know, but I don't know if I dare post it here. THEY are everywhere.

Why do people come up with Consipracy Theories? I think they just have too much time on their hands.
The same reason anyone comes up with any theory - to try to explain something.

Incidently, I came across a very interesting story a few years ago while researching for a talk on UFOs. Apparently during the cold war, when USSR soldiers were marching into Romania, the Americans rescued a truckload of crown jewels and other artifacts that might have been destroyed by the Soviets. To keep the operation secret the soldiers escorting the truck were told that they were transporting a crashed UFO. For this reason I suspect that some conspiracy theories are started (or at least encouraged) by governments in order to conceal their real activities.That itself is a conspiracy theory.

Welcome to the club!

Don't believe what anyone else may have told you; Ted Kennedy never landed on the moon. It was faked to cover up the true purpose of the Chappaquiddick "accident", which was the importation of magic bullets from an ammunition factory in Atlantis. The bullets were subsequently handed over to John Titor, who transported them through time to 1993 and provided them to Hillary Clinton for use in the assassination of Vince Foster. However, the entire conspiracy has been revealed by a renegade NSA agent known only by the code name "Deep Kimchi", so now the truth can be told!

:p

WOW! I knew there was more to all that than meets the eye! thanks, Scum, I owe you for this. if you ever need a place to hide out, let me know. just post a personal ad in Weekly World News addressed to "Hyannisport hemorrhoids" and say "I need your clam chowder!" plus a contact number.

I'll take care of the rest.

*takes a drag*

Conspiracy theories? I can't imagine that anyone would be interested in those.

Atlanteans from area 51 killed JFK, then faked the moon landing and then destroyed the evidence by knocking down the WTC.

Don't get me started on the moon landing... it is a fishy story. That's about th only conspiracy theory I've ever considered be real. There are so many of them, though, so there's probably one or two true ones out there. But a lot of them are really ridiculous, like the one about the US destroying the twin towers themselves, or anything concerning the freemasons or what Dan BRown writes about. ;)
The official story of what happend on the East Coast of the US on 2001.09.11 is itself a conspiracy theory, several details of which have been disproven. There's no good reason to assume that men who are willing to kill tens of thousands of foreigners will not kill a relative handful of "their own people". Whatever actually happened, we can at least be certain that a number of people in the US government are guilty of criminal neglegence, thanks to Peter Lance (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060543558/002-4612041-9477606?v=glance&n=283155).

That itself is a conspiracy theory.

Welcome to the club!

To be fair, I think the US actually confirmed that they had removed the jewels and that they kept it secret by saying it was a UFO. It is only logical to deduce from that that some of the UFO stories are likewise being spread deliberately to put people off the scent.

Look at Roswell, the first official to reach the scene declared it to be a crashed UFO, this statement was detracted by the next official to arrive.

There are three explanations:

1. The first guy genuinely thought that it was a UFO, his superior realised that it wasn't and so retracted the statement.
2. It was a UFO, the second official lied to conceal the truth.
3. The first official was under orders to declare it to be a UFO and the second one was ordered to debunk the claim. Result: a lot of gullible people spend time debating the possibility of government collusion with aliens and nobody takes the time to question what it actually was.

Ok, I'm done ranting.

*puts on tinfoil hat and rides away into the sunset, never to return*

If you're honestly interested in conspiracy theories I would highly recommend this book (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0806525312/qid=1135018466/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-4612041-9477606?s=books&v=glance&n=283155). The authors show who presents what arguments and only hint at what they actually think, although it's beyond obvious in certain cases. Some of the chapters are actually little more than the presentation of historical facts, while others show wholly unprovable claims or a multitude of contradictory claims by various authors/theorists.

To be fair, I think the US actually confirmed that they had removed the jewels and that they kept it secret by saying it was a UFO. It is only logical to deduce from that that some of the UFO stories are likewise being spread deliberately to put people off the scent.
I see. It is not a conspiracy theory if the government says it's true?

To be fair, I think the US actually confirmed that they had removed the jewels and that they kept it secret by saying it was a UFO. It is only logical to deduce from that that some of the UFO stories are likewise being spread deliberately to put people off the scent.

Look at Roswell, the first official to reach the scene declared it to be a crashed UFO, this statement was detracted by the next official to arrive.

There are three explanations:

1. The first guy genuinely thought that it was a UFO, his superior realised that it wasn't and so retracted the statement.
2. It was a UFO, the second official lied to conceal the truth.
3. The first official was under orders to declare it to be a UFO and the second one was ordered to debunk the claim. Result: a lot of gullible people spend time debating the possibility of government collusion with aliens and nobody takes the time to question what it actually was.

Ok, I'm done ranting.

*puts on tinfoil hat and rides away into the sunset, never to return*
I do like the story about the UFO line being spread because they didn't want word leaking out about rocket tests.

Keep in mind that not all Conspiracy Theories are inaccurate, it's just that those in power refuse to admit to certain things. Here are a few that were dead on:

The US government knew there were no weapons of Mass Destruction.

The US government was forewarned about the attacks on Pearl Harbor and The WTC.

The government monitors all telephone and cell phone conversations.

The FBI tracks who takes what books out of the library.

Those are just a few.

Keep in mind that not all Conspiracy Theories are inaccurate, it's just that those in power refuse to admit to certain things. Here are a few that were dead on:

The US government knew there were no weapons of Mass Destruction.

The US government was forewarned about the attacks on Pearl Harbor and The WTC.

The government monitors all telephone and cell phone conversations.

The FBI tracks who takes what books out of the library.

Those are just a few.


are those really conspiracy theories? I thought they were just nasty things the government tried to do in secret until they got caught.

Not exactly conspiracy theory material (or, at least, not unresolved any more) but I wonder what the world would have been like had Mark Felt been codenamed "Debbie Does Dallas" instead of "Deep Throat".... ;)

I see. It is not a conspiracy theory if the government says it's true?

Well I see no reason to doubt that it happened. Unless they're trying to cover up their UFO crashes by making us think that they're cover ups for other stuff, or is that what they want us to think? Maybe they want us to think that that's what they want us to think?

ARGH!!!!!!!

*head explodes*

Well I see no reason to doubt that it happened. Unless they're trying to cover up their UFO crashes by making us think that they're cover ups for other stuff, or is that what they want us to think? Maybe they want us to think that that's what they want us to think?

ARGH!!!!!!!

*head explodes*Whatever the case, the usefullness of disinformation should be apparent.


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people come up with conspiracy theories because they are possessed by the disembodied spirits of extraterrestrial lizard beings.

ask Straughn. ;)

...
ARGH! :eek: WHO ... TOLD ...
*coughs*
Must compose myself. Must act ... natural, at least as is possible for me.
Nope, did that all wrong. Now everyone is gonna be watching. Good thing they're used to ignoring me.
Yes, i'll follow up with long diatribe about something that bothers me and not many other people with normal lives.
Heh. Slick. :D

you've got to know before it's too late...

Nixon never got over the 1960 election, and there was no way a crazy like him was going to let JFK pull US personnel out of Viet Nam. also he believed he'd been chosen to be king of the USA by divine right, and he was determined to take his revenge.

Nixon isn't dead even now. he faked leaving office too. In fact, he's been running the country secretly ever since 1974, carefully disguised as a "president". whoever is elected, he makes them disappear. then in public Nixon, who is really a 10 foot shape-shifting lizard from outer space, morphs himself to look like the person he's replacing. the whole family is also swapped in the same way. certain events of the lives of the different "presidents" are faked just to leave a false trail. for example, Monica Lewinsky only thought she had sex with Clinton. (that's the real meaning of all that denial business was. Clinton was only let out of his cell to appear at the press conference and the impeachment. he spent the rest of his time chained up in a dark basement screwing some other woman. he finally confessed when his handlers told him she was Monica.) meanwhile Nixon didn't have sex with Lewinsky either. he's impotent, so whenever he stages sex scandals he gets someone else to 'stand in' - no pun intended - for him.

so, "Dubya" is really Nixon, now old and growing senile. the reason he keeps getting the US into wars is because it's a useful way of getting a lot of people to kill each other for nothing. the real purpose of wars is that they're a form of covert genocide practiced by the alien lizards. they're getting us to kill each other, and they'll take over the earth when we're dead.

Well, *bump* ... let the truth be known, all many-facets of it!

Who am i to post in the way of progress?

...yes, who am i, indeed .... *lurks*




*slither, slither*

...yes, who am i, indeed ....

I'm not sure yet.

I'm waiting for Gene Ray to return my call...

I'm not sure yet.

I'm waiting for Gene Ray to return my call...
Mr. Marbles, i presume?

He created his well-known "Time Cube" website in August, 1997, after being banned from several Internet message boards;

;)