The BNP getting just a little bit desparate
Gataway_Driver
19-12-2005, 02:23
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=691
Although I'm sure the BNP had the best intentions into discovering British history I fail to see this as anything but to stereotype Islamic people.
Neu Leonstein
19-12-2005, 02:26
Although I'm sure the BNP had the best intentions into discovering British history...
Indeed...
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 02:27
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=691
Although I'm sure the BNP had the best intentions into discovering British history I fail to see this as anything but to stereotype Islamic people.
Phew. Good thing neither the British people nor the Christians were ever involved in anything as barbaric as that. Oh, hang on...
-Magdha-
19-12-2005, 02:28
Why don't the Brits outlaw the BNP? Extremist parties, whether left or right, should all be outlawed.
Gataway_Driver
19-12-2005, 02:28
Phew. Good thing neither the British people nor the Christians were ever involved in anything as barbaric as that. Oh, hang on...
How dare you say we can be compared to these savages;)
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=691
Although I'm sure the BNP had the best intentions into discovering British history I fail to see this as anything but to stereotype Islamic people.
To be honest, I'm just impressed that members of the BNP are able to read.
Free Soviets
19-12-2005, 02:31
Phew. Good thing neither the British people nor the Christians were ever involved in anything as barbaric as that. Oh, hang on...
indeed. british history is one long string of puppies and rainbows and the odd bout of selling the irish off as slaves
Why don't the Brits outlaw the BNP? Extremist parties, whether left or right, should all be outlawed.
Because we, and I, believe that freedom of speech should be held sacrosanct.
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 02:31
How dare you say we can be compared to these savages;)
'These savages' being the Christians?
Why don't the Brits outlaw the BNP? Extremist parties, whether left or right, should all be outlawed.
Because we, in general, value democracy.
Why don't the Brits outlaw the BNP? Extremist parties, whether left or right, should all be outlawed.
And who decides what is "extremist"?
Gataway_Driver
19-12-2005, 02:33
Why don't the Brits outlaw the BNP? Extremist parties, whether left or right, should all be outlawed.
Its a tough one really, they get about 1.5 % of the vote at national elections. They would say that if their views were not shared they wouldn't get that vote. They won't get any sort of power, basically an ugly joke that causes some minor problems
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 02:34
Why don't the Brits outlaw the BNP? Extremist parties, whether left or right, should all be outlawed.
Why not outlaw them? Because we have faith in our democracy (ludicrous as it seems).
So, how would you define 'extremist' here? Presumably in contrast to the centre... so if the population as a whole took a sudden swing to the left or the right some groups not previously considered as extremists would suddenly find themselves listed as such, whilst others would lose the designation.
Gataway_Driver
19-12-2005, 02:35
'These savages' being the Christians?
hard to tell ;)
-Magdha-
19-12-2005, 02:35
Because we, in general, value democracy.
What if these nuts somehow, someway were able to come to power?
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 02:36
Because we, in general, value democracy.
At least as an ideal, even if instances of it actually being put into practice are quite spectacularly absent from our lives.
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 02:37
What if these nuts somehow, someway were able to come to power?
They would find themselves up against the wall pretty sharpish, Ceausescu fashion. Not a threat, but instead a prediction.
Exetonia
19-12-2005, 02:38
for them to come to power there would have to be a MASSIVE failing in the british voting system...
Gataway_Driver
19-12-2005, 02:39
What if these nuts somehow, someway were able to come to power?
Then they represent the general opinion of the people and have a majority mandate and I'll probably get deported
What if these nuts somehow, someway were able to come to power?
Good luck to them on getting anything past the Lords.
What if these nuts somehow, someway were able to come to power?
If the majority supported the BNP they would no longer be "extremist."
Why don't the Brits outlaw the BNP? Extremist parties, whether left or right, should all be outlawed.
You do that, and they win a major victory.
As it was wisely said once: "'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Gataway_Driver
19-12-2005, 02:44
Good luck to them on getting anything past the Lords.
House of Lords has no power of veto, just a delaying power that the parliament act can wipe anyway
Why don't the Brits outlaw the BNP? Extremist parties, whether left or right, should all be outlawed.
um ya could . . .but then u gotta define extreme and that might be kinda difficult oh , ya its also sensorship
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 02:49
House of Lords has no power of veto, just a delaying power that the parliament act can wipe anyway
Hey, one of the oft-put forward reasons for keeping a moanrchy is to prevent the appointment of an extremist PM, even if there is an extremist party in majority.
indeed. british history is one long string of puppies and rainbows and the odd bout of selling the irish off as slaves
hey you forgot the pot of gold . . . .
and the deaths of irish, the brutality of the british towards the poor and also the british conquest of scotland
House of Lords has no power of veto, just a delaying power that the parliament act can wipe anyway
Yea, but it would give me enough time to get out of here.
Neu Leonstein
19-12-2005, 02:50
um ya could . . .but then u gotta define extreme and that might be kinda difficult oh , ya its also sensorship
Germany has tried to ban its own version of the BNP (the NPD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany_%28NPD%29)), but so far found all sorts of issues, despite having pretty strict laws regarding anything that could even remotely look like Nazism.
So banning a party is not an easy thing to get past the courts in the first place.
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 02:51
um ya could . . .but then u gotta define extreme and that might be kinda difficult oh , ya its also sensorship
And censorship of a legal political party in the UK could never happen. I mean, it would be completely ludicrous for the media to have to employ actors to read the words of elected representatives of the people, instead of legally being allowed to use their own voices...
ANd censorship of a legal political party in the UK could never happen. Oh, hang on...
lol good point . . . im canadian lol
Gataway_Driver
19-12-2005, 02:53
Yea, but it would give me enough time to get out of here.
they would kick me out because my family haven't been British for 3 generations
Yea, but it would give me enough time to get out of here.
lol
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 03:13
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=691
Although I'm sure the BNP had the best intentions into discovering British history I fail to see this as anything but to stereotype Islamic people.
Welcome to "Brimstone".
BNP "Legal Eagle", Lee Barnes (LLB, Hons) with his very own style of fearless and fiery delivery.
Whoop-ti-fucking-doo. The BNP consider it noteworthy that one of their contributors has managed to complete a three-year undergrad course. Consider me a tad underwhelmed by these credentials of intellectual rigour.