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13 year old girl shot to death... Give me your comments

Chao Fa
19-12-2005, 01:08
http://www.hmongtoday.com/displaynews.asp?ID=1827



Wednesday, January 12 was one of the coldest nights this winter. So when 13-year-old Pa Houa Yang did not come home after school like she usually does, her parents Chang Dang Yang and Sai Hang quickly reported their missing daughter to the authorities.

Described by friends and family members as being dependable and respectful towards authority figures, the mystery became more frightening when her parents discovered Pa Houa had not been in school that Wednesday either.

“That’s when we knew something was terribly wrong,” the grieving mother recalled. “Pa Houa has never skipped a day of school in her life.”

Worry turned to fear. And fear turned to grief as the weekend passed with no word about their daughter. “We couldn’t sleep.”

It wasn’t until 10:00 PM on Monday, January 17 – five days since they last seen or heard from their daughter—when the police came knocking at their North Minneapolis residence.

The police informed them that they found a body fitting the description of their daughter, but that a positive identification had to me made to confirm their suspicions.

“At this point, we were in shock because we were holding on with the hope that Pa Houa was still safe somewhere.”

After providing the police with a detailed description of their daughter, the disheartened parents patiently waited until 3:00 the next day before the police returned.

“When they confirmed it was Pa Houa, my heart dropped. I didn’t want to hear what the police had to tell us.”

According to reports, a man retrieving his jacket from his broken-down van found the frozen body of Pa Houa lying in his vehicle, dead from a bullet wound in her head.

Hardly any other clues were reportedly found, but as Lt. Lee Edwards from the Minneapolis police told the Star Tribune, “We’re working hard, looking at all aspects of the case and throwing all available resources at it. The community is outraged over this.”

The tragedy has sparked community activists from outside the Hmong community to speak out against violence in Minneapolis.

“There is so much murder that people are becoming numb to it,” shouted Spike Moss during a press conference with other prominent figures from the African-American community surrounding him. “The community has the responsibility to bring these people who did these crimes to justice.”

Ilean Her from the Council on Asian-Pacific Minnesotans found the slaying to be so disturbing she was provoked to send out a public announcement to express her condolences and to make a public plea for help on solving the murder.

“We grieve with the family at the loss of their loved one, at the loss of a future so abruptly terminated.”

At Pa Houa’s funeral, family members questioned how such a nice, quiet girl could fall to such a violent and abrupt end.

“She had everything going for her,” 23-year-old Kang Yang questioned about his first cousin’s death. “She was just a really nice girl who never got into any trouble.”

Besides her parents, Pa Houa is leaving her five brothers and sisters behind. At this point, the family has contemplated moving away from the neighborhood in North Minneapolis where they have called home for the last 14 years, “but will wait to sort things through.”

The family prays that the police will eventually solve the mystery of what happened to their daughter. However, they remain puzzled as to why the police delayed in coming forward with the information that they found a girl fitting the description of their daughter who was reported missing.

“Pa Houa was found on Friday. We want to know why the police didn’t come to us until Monday night?”

Sai Hang went on to question the honesty of the police coroner when she was told there was no sign of a physical struggle and no sexual assault before Pa Houa died. But when the family was dressing Pa Houa, they noticed there were multiple scratches on her hand, “clearly indicating that some kind of fighting occurred.”

Any information that might help solve this case is greatly needed. Please contact the Minneapolis police at 612-673-2941 if you think you can contribute.

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To this day this story still bothers me...

Who would had done this to such a sweet innocent 13 year old girl...
sometime... I'll just wonder why do we live in a crappy world with really stupid stupid people.... Who would have done such a thing to a poor young girl... Damn these people are sick.
The South Islands
19-12-2005, 01:11
That sucks.
Chao Fa
19-12-2005, 01:11
Oh by the way people leave your comments behind...

appreciated it.
Chao Fa
19-12-2005, 01:13
That sucks.


Of course it sucks... still they haven't found the killer.
The South Islands
19-12-2005, 01:15
Of course it sucks... still they haven't found the killer.

..and this little girl join the ranks of the unknown murders.
Chao Fa
19-12-2005, 01:18
eh knock off the sarcasim.... I don't find it funny.
Eichen
19-12-2005, 01:19
Is there any particular political angle you're hinting toward, or do you just want to hear from a bunch of people saying "that's sad, dude"?
And it is, but there's not much here to discuss.
The South Islands
19-12-2005, 01:20
eh knock off the sarcasim.... I don't find it funny.

I'm not being sarcastic. I'm just pointing out there are hundreds of bodies out there without a murderer attached.

This case is unfortunate, but not uncommon or special.
Chao Fa
19-12-2005, 01:23
Is there any particular political angle you're hinting toward, or do you just want to hear from a bunch of people saying "that's sad, dude"?
And it is, but there's not much here to discuss.


Oh I forgot about that.... I also wanted to point out

why I did post this up... anyways...

Just because she was Asian No whtie or black give a shit about this and pretend it'll all go away.. Asian ain't all too important in our news or government or whatever.
Eichen
19-12-2005, 01:32
Well, I could already tell what your point was (if that's what you want to call it).
Yes, the phenomenon exists where the media ignores stories about missing and murdered minority children... But saying that white people don't care is both racist and ignorant. Don't generalize, or I will and assume your penis is smaller than mine.
Chao Fa
19-12-2005, 01:33
Well, I could already tell what your point was (if that's what you want to call it).
Yes, the phenomenon exists where the media ignores stories about missing and murdered minority children... But saying that white people don't care is both racist and ignorant. Don't generalize, or I will and assume your penis is smaller than mine.


LMAO I didn't say white peopel didn't care...I just said they ignored it


and I wasn't just refering to white people...

but Plllleeaasee My penis is stiffer then yours.
Santa Barbara
19-12-2005, 01:58
why do these kinds of topics always go from 13 year old girls to stiff penises?
Jennislore
19-12-2005, 02:09
why do these kinds of topics always go from 13 year old girls to stiff penises?

Perfectly put. Thank you, Santa Barbara.
The South Islands
19-12-2005, 02:14
why do these kinds of topics always go from 13 year old girls to stiff penises?

Te evolution/devolution of a thread.

It either evolves to Politics, or devolves to Peni.
JuNii
19-12-2005, 02:22
Sai Hang went on to question the honesty of the police coroner when she was told there was no sign of a physical struggle and no sexual assault before Pa Houa died. But when the family was dressing Pa Houa, they noticed there were multiple scratches on her hand, “clearly indicating that some kind of fighting occurred.”
Multiple Scratches on the hand can be obtained by other means and not by fighting.

Of course without seeing the scratching nor the coroner's report. this is only speculation.

it could be a hate crime (yes there is hate crimes against Asians.) or it just could be a random act of violence. the only consolation for you and her family is that there is no Statue of Limitation for Murders/deaths. so the gun should turn up if it gets used again, and the kill will be caught.
DaWoad
19-12-2005, 02:29
That sucks.
ya man
DaWoad
19-12-2005, 02:30
Perfectly put. Thank you, Santa Barbara.
agreed
JuNii
19-12-2005, 02:33
why do these kinds of topics always go from 13 year old girls to stiff penises?
because the Web is filled with sick, perverted people.

unfortunatly, those people sometimes leave the net and interact in the real world... causing tradigies like this one.
Fuhrers and Duces
19-12-2005, 02:38
As they like to say: Only in America!
Santa Barbara
19-12-2005, 02:42
As they like to say: Only in America!

I hope you're kidding. Last I checked murder is hardly an American monopoly.
Fuhrers and Duces
19-12-2005, 02:47
I wouldn't say it's a monopoly, but for a "Western Democracy", you got a choke-hold on the market. Check the stats.
Santa Barbara
19-12-2005, 03:01
I wouldn't say it's a monopoly, but for a "Western Democracy", you got a choke-hold on the market. Check the stats.

I did check the stats (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap). And not a single country I could find had 0 murders per capita. I assume your country is also one of those with above 0 murders per capita.

I don't get therefore, why you have to imply this kind of thing can only happen in the US. Just too easy to generalize and blame the US for the actions of one depraved individual yes?
Heavenly Sex
19-12-2005, 22:31
Good grief, how awful... :(
That's America for you. Violence where you look, and Bush doesn't give a damn :mad:
Santa Barbara
19-12-2005, 22:34
It's good to know some of you are using the murder of a 13 year old girl as an excuse to bash America. So compassionate.
Ifreann
19-12-2005, 22:43
It's good to know some of you are using the murder of a 13 year old girl as an excuse to bash America. So compassionate.

What else are we supposed to do? Let this be a thread of 'That sucks' or something synonymous to that?
Santa Barbara
19-12-2005, 22:50
What else are we supposed to do? Let this be a thread of 'That sucks' or something synonymous to that?

Er, you ARE making it into a thread of 'That sucks,' with 'that' meaning the United States of America.

And if you can't think of anything else to do in any thread except blather on about how the USA sucks, you really ought not to post at all.
LarinaVille
19-12-2005, 23:06
I hope you're kidding. Last I checked murder is hardly an American monopoly.

Ive lost count how many little girls have gone missing and turned up as bodies or just people getting shot for no reason or just attacked. America has not got the monopoly on murders. These things happen all too often
Jenrak
19-12-2005, 23:16
Another death, but still nothing is still as bad as the Atlanta missing childs case.
Sinuhue
19-12-2005, 23:19
Er, you ARE making it into a thread of 'That sucks,' with 'that' meaning the United States of America.

And if you can't think of anything else to do in any thread except blather on about how the USA sucks, you really ought not to post at all.
I actually have to agree. You might hear about murder in the US more because you likely get a fair amount of your media from that country. But look at Ciudad Juarez in Mexico...over 700 women dead, missing, raped, mutilated and dumped...you don't hear Mexico crying bloody holy hell, and people screaming that murder and violence are Mexican traits, now do you?
Ifreann
19-12-2005, 23:22
Er, you ARE making it into a thread of 'That sucks,' with 'that' meaning the United States of America.

And if you can't think of anything else to do in any thread except blather on about how the USA sucks, you really ought not to post at all.

I think a vaguely-semi-political discussion is better than people saying how sad they are that yet another person with whom they had absolutely no connection has been killed.
Sinuhue
19-12-2005, 23:24
I think a vaguely-semi-political discussion is better than people saying how sad they are that yet another person with whom they had absolutely no connection has been killed.
So then let that political discussion go beyond slogans like "Only in America". For the love of Dobb.
Santa Barbara
19-12-2005, 23:26
I think a vaguely-semi-political discussion is better than people saying how sad they are that yet another person with whom they had absolutely no connection has been killed.

There's nothing even vaguely semi-political about "only in the America" in reaction to a murder. It's just plain false.

And it's not like those are the only two options: "Oh how sad" or "America sux0rz."

How about this: violent fucks who kill 13 year old girls suck!

Not politically biased enough, or what?
Sinuhue
19-12-2005, 23:28
How about this: violent fucks who kill 13 year old girls suck!

Not politically biased enough, or what?
Not nearly as fun. No one is going to jump to defend violent fucks who kill 13 year old girls. Turn this into a pro and anti-US thread, and you've got interest.
Sinuhue
19-12-2005, 23:33
Holy crap fatman...did you notice, Santa Barbara, in the stats you provided, that there are more rapes in Canada per capita than in the US? We're ranked 5th in the world to your 9th...a dubious honour at best. At least Australia is worse...yikes!

In fact, rape seems to be our biggest crime (of those dealt with here)...does that just mean more rapes get reported in Canada I wonder...

Hmmm...the US, South Africa and Canada are in the top 3 for total number of rapes...
Santa Barbara
19-12-2005, 23:35
Not nearly as fun. No one is going to jump to defend violent fucks who kill 13 year old girls. Turn this into a pro and anti-US thread, and you've got interest.

Well, maybe the 13 year old girl was asking for it. No no, hear me out! What if she was in a lot of pain and wanted to die but couldn't find Kevorkian? This may have been a mercy killing for all we know. A bullet wound to the head can be rather merciful, if I was hiring someone to end my life I might choose that method myself....
Sinuhue
19-12-2005, 23:36
Well, maybe the 13 year old girl was asking for it. No no, hear me out! What if she was in a lot of pain and wanted to die but couldn't find Kevorkian? This may have been a mercy killing for all we know. A bullet wound to the head can be rather merciful, if I was hiring someone to end my life I might choose that method myself....
Shut. Up.
Santa Barbara
19-12-2005, 23:38
Holy crap fatman...did you notice, Santa Barbara, in the stats you provided, that there are more rapes in Canada per capita than in the US?

Aha! See, Canada is teh sux0rz!

Shut. Up.

Well, at least it's not "oh how sad" or "only in America"! :p
Sinuhue
19-12-2005, 23:39
Well, at least it's not "oh how sad" or "only in America"! :p
I'm not sure which is worse. Anyway....

You MySpace deserting f*cktard!
Sinuhue
19-12-2005, 23:45
Ok, so the US is #1 in terms of number of total rapes, number of total assaults and total crimes. Over two million assaults compared to #2's (South Africa's) just over half a million. Wow. Eighth in terms of murders with firearms, per capita, but 4th when talking total numbers. For most of the stats, the US is fairly alone among Western nations...but when it comes to those total crimes (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_tot_cri), you're in there with Germany, the UK and France in the top four.

Oh, whatever...the US sucks, let's all just admit it:D
Santa Barbara
19-12-2005, 23:48
Ok, so the US is #1 in terms of number of total rapes, number of total assaults and total crimes. Over two million assaults compared to #2's (South Africa's) just over half a million. Wow. Eighth in terms of murders with firearms, per capita, but 4th when talking total numbers. For most of the stats, the US is fairly alone among Western nations...but when it comes to those total crimes (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_tot_cri), you're in there with Germany, the UK and France in the top four.

Oh, whatever...the US sucks, let's all just admit it:D

Totals don't mean much cuz we have many more people and cities.

And I'm willing to admit the US sucks... I just don't see that sucking is automatically a bad thing.
Emmulos
20-12-2005, 00:42
Ok, so the US is #1 in terms of number of total rapes, number of total assaults and total crimes. Over two million assaults compared to #2's (South Africa's) just over half a million. Wow. Eighth in terms of murders with firearms, per capita, but 4th when talking total numbers. For most of the stats, the US is fairly alone among Western nations...but when it comes to those total crimes (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_tot_cri), you're in there with Germany, the UK and France in the top four.

Oh, whatever...the US sucks, let's all just admit it:D
Yeah sure the US sucks. Lets compare this to say I dunno maybe China. I've lived in China and I can say it ain't bad, but if you want to compare to the US it is a rotting craphole 67% of the time. Every few blocks has a resident beggar. You can buy swords, now not just any swords, lethal swords capable to cut your head off, for around 50 dollars US, ON THE STREET. Not in a mall or some public place, a rug on the sidewalk. They have many good clean citys and the neighborhood I lived in was awesome to say the least, but that maybe because they had round the clock security guys posted regularly on almost every street corner.
So I can say the US definantly has its problems but we have a population of around several hundred million. You don't think there will be around several thousand sickos in a country? Now for all US bashers out there. You SAY that we should be helping out other nations and crap. You SAY our government is facist and it sucks horribly. Now what the hell do you do about it? you shout it out on a thread about a 13 year old girl who got shot in the head. I'm betting this girl did not want to invoke a controvery about the US when she died.