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I'm very interested in a little something:

If you knew in late 2004 what President Bush has admitted to in recent weeks, namely that the Iraqi intel that (supposedly) made his decision to attack Iraq was faulty and that he authorized the NSA to wiretap individuals without warrants would it have changed your vote? Has anything else in 2005?

(poll coming)

No. I didn't vote Republicrat.

Me = too foreign!

Sweet crap!

Is this a serious political poll from LG?

If I click a choice, Im I going to be hit with a pie?

Sweet crap!

Is this a serious political poll from LG?

If I click a choice, Im I going to be hit with a pie?
:D I was taken aback, too.

Sweet crap!

Is this a serious political poll from LG?

If I click a choice, Im I going to be hit with a pie?

These things are best left as a surprise. :)

Let's just say that this NSA wiretap situation has rather stunned me.

Not because they were happening, or that they were authorized. But because Bush authorized them and admitted it. Clinton would never have gotten caught so blatantly red-handed. :p

These things are best left as a surprise. :)

Let's just say that this NSA wiretap situation has rather stunned me.

Not because they were happening, or that they were authorized. But because Bush authorized them and admitted it. Clinton would never have gotten caught so blatantly red-handed. :p


Wich is why Clinton is inherently smarter than Bush, and made a better president.
Not that he did anything as bad as bush, he just didnt get caught doing it.

and I would hardly consider getting head from an intern akin to unjustly knocking over a third world country for its oil.

These things are best left as a surprise. :)

Let's just say that this NSA wiretap situation has rather stunned me.

Not because they were happening, or that they were authorized. But because Bush authorized them and admitted it. Clinton would never have gotten caught so blatantly red-handed. :p
I was wondering why Bush had basically given up arguing on the podium the other day, ya know, the part they showed on The Daily Show - the one where he actually said that he had some extra time and would take some questions :eek:
Then the FLIP-FLOP on McCain's anti-torture bill ... even after Cheney kept talking exemptions ....
I knew something big was coming up. I strongly suspect there's a few more hits as well. This has potential to be Bush's Watergate, when the wiretaps are tied to the political enemies, which as admitted last week involves peace demonstrators. One step to Democrats, and .... well, do the math.
Viveca Novak-->Rove thingie for Fitzgerald ...

PostScript: Hey, LG, did you know you were nominated to be one of three people to help repopulate the earth in a doomsday scenario, here on NS?
It's one other guy one other lady and yourself, making the trio.
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EDIT: It's the A few more scenarios ... thread from Kanabia.

and I would hardly consider getting head from an intern akin to unjustly knocking over a third world country for its oil.
...and that is where your values strongly differ from a blubbering misogynist administration mouthpiece who manages to skip out of military draft in the 'nam era because it seemed like the best time to get a cyst excised from his ass crack.

I'm damn glad that I'm far, far away from the US. I would've rather nibbled my feet off than voting for this braindead retard Bush :mad:

If I had been able to vote I wouldn't have.

Didn't vote for him either time - living overseas and have let my registration lapse. There hasn't been a presidential candidate able to win who I have felt I was reasonably able to support since 1996, and even then Dole was weak. :(

Sweet crap!

Is this a serious political poll from LG?

If I click a choice, Im I going to be hit with a pie?

I always have a little laugh when people are surprised by LG comments on politics. He does so occassionally. Maybe I just seem to catch him at it more often. Who knows.

I'm very interested in a little something:

If you knew in late 2004 what President Bush has admitted to in recent weeks, namely that the Iraqi intel that (supposedly) made his decision to attack Iraq was faulty and that he authorized the NSA to wiretap individuals without warrants would it have changed your vote? Has anything else in 2005?

(poll coming)
Do you really think that wiretapping of US citizens didn't go on before he authorized it with an executive order? I mean, come on man, US government agencies aren't exactly known for their restraint. As for the intelligence issue: http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/005966.php

Colin Powell has dropped a water balloon on his friends of the Left and their "Bush Lied, People Died!" cri du coeur during a BBC interview due to be aired within hours. Mark in Mexico caught this early report of Powell's revelation that the American intelligence agencies never gave the White House any contradictory intelligence to the prevailing wisdom that Saddam Hussein had retained and hidden his WMD stocks and capability throughout the twelve-year quagmire of UN impotence, corruption, and failing containment:

THE US administration was never told of doubts about the secret intelligence used to justify war with Iraq, former secretary of state Colin Powell told the BBC in an interview to be broadcast on Sunday night.

Mr Powell, who argued the case for military action against Saddam Hussein in the UN in 2003, told BBC News 24 television he was "deeply disappointed in what the intelligence community had presented to me and to the rest of us."

"What really upset me more than anything else was that there were people in the intelligence community that had doubts about some of this sourcing, but those doubts never surfaced to us," he said.

This, of course, brings up the question as to whether those doubts actually existed at the time -- or more accurately, whether any evidence had developed counter to the existing intelligence before the invasion at all. Later, of course, the CIA came up with information that cast doubt on the Bush administration's interpretation of the intelligence both he and Congress reviewed -- the same intelligence Powell saw in both administrations and the same conclusions reached by all Western nations before Bush took office in 2001.

It sounds like the notion that the CIA has decided to conduct its own war against Bush and the elected government isn't quite as far-fetched as one might imagine. Powell's accusation will put quite a different take on the presumed narrative and start people wondering what the hell Langley has been doing since 9/11. It's starting to look like they have hung the CYA sign in front of the facility to replace their old logo.

I have to admit I'm Australian, but the crap about faulty intelligence = Bush lied shits me
Intelligence is not an exact science, people oppose you. You think Saddam is going to let information slip out? Regardless of resources, if only fifty people know whats going on, It's going to be a nightmare finding out what going on.

I have it on good authority that half of the Australian effort in the First Gulf war was figuring out what the US was doing because they did not tell anyone, presumeably so Saddam could not find out the plans.

With out evidence you have to guess. Guessing is what leads to these problems.He had WMD's, He has used them on his citizens, he won't let us in to verify the destruction of them, he is hostile to America, ergo he probably still has them. Two words for this view, Chemical Ali. His henchman is called Chemical Ali for using chemical weapons on Kurdish villagers

Haha, I love how the poll stands; no one wants to admit they supported Bush now because he's a f***ing liar (like most of my friends and I have been saying since before he was elected). Even the conservatives hate him now!

Too Young!
Definitely would've voted for Kerry though. "Republican" is a curse word in my family...

I voted for John Kerry in 04'.

And looking back I would vote for him again, Kerry may or may not of been a spinless guppy (depending on which propaganda commercial you happened to watch) but what he would NOT of been was a Would-Be Despot.

Impeach Bush NOW!

If you knew in late 2004 what President Bush has admitted to in recent weeks, namely that the Iraqi intel that (supposedly) made his decision to attack Iraq was faulty and that he authorized the NSA to wiretap individuals without warrants would it have changed your vote? Has anything else in 2005?
I have very serious reservations about some of the things the Bush Administration has done and is doing. I usually understand why they're doing them, but sometimes the cost seems a bit high.

However, I could never, ever have voted for John "Seared-into-my-memory" Kerry, not even under theat of death! As I have said repeatedly on here, I voted for what I saw as the lesser of two "evils."

There hasn't been a presidential candidate able to win who I have felt I was reasonably able to support since 1996, and even then Dole was weak. :(

"Dole was weak," is the understatement of the millenium. Dole is evil personified. He is the Anti-Christ. :mad:

"Dole was weak," is the understatement of the millenium. Dole is evil personified. He is the Anti-Christ. :mad:

Do you really think someone with that kind of evil power would need Viagra? :D

I voted libertarian. I didn't really like Badnarik, and I knew he had no chance of winning, but I ended up voting for him because the way I usually pick candidates failed. See, in most races I don't really like any of the candidates, but I pick the one I dislike the least, the one I feel is likely to do the least damage to my country. When it came down to Bush v. Kerry, I just couldn't decide which was worse. :rolleyes:

I voted libertarian. I didn't really like Badnarik, and I knew he had no chance of winning, but I ended up voting for him because the way I usually pick candidates failed. See, in most races I don't really like any of the candidates, but I pick the one I dislike the least, the one I feel is likely to do the least damage to my country. When it came down to Bush v. Kerry, I just couldn't decide which was worse. :rolleyes:

Truth. I voted for Nader. :p