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Least powerful nation on Earth

Iztatepopotla
17-12-2005, 02:58
Nevermind who has the most poweful military, we all know who that is. What I want to know is what country you think is the least powerful, which one can be taken over by a group of girl scouts with pointy sticks.

Poll coming.
-Magdha-
17-12-2005, 02:59
France!

J/k

Probably East Timor.
Lunatic Goofballs
17-12-2005, 03:00
Vatican City. :D
Vetalia
17-12-2005, 03:00
Djibouti. There's just nothing there...
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 03:02
Nauru. What army?
Colodia
17-12-2005, 03:03
Vatican. Who're they gonna send? Da friggin' Pope?
Lacadaemon
17-12-2005, 03:04
Monaco. It's tiny, and relies upon france for security.

Basically it's fucked.
New Genoa
17-12-2005, 03:04
The Vatican has just declared war on every nation on the planet. Describe their situation in one word, no more no less.
Genaia3
17-12-2005, 03:06
The people who've said it's the Vatican haven't given it much thought, the Catholic church has over one million members and the pope is it's head, if that doesn't hold political sway I don't know what does.
Posi
17-12-2005, 03:08
Djibouti. There's just nothing there...
Seconded. The cornerstone of there economy is animal hides! How do you weapons out of animal hides?
Dobbsworld
17-12-2005, 03:09
It's the tiny Republic of Togo, isn't it?
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 03:09
Seconded. The cornerstone of there economy is animal hides! How do you weapons out of animal hides?

Garrots? Whips? Lassos?
Vetalia
17-12-2005, 03:10
Seconded. The cornerstone of there economy is animal hides! How do you weapons out of animal hides?

Maybe back when "Caesar's crossing the Rubicon" was a current event you could make them in to catapults or something, but now...
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 03:21
Maybe back when "Caesar's crossing the Rubicon" was a current event you could make them in to catapults or something, but now...

Yeah, its not as if we ever experienced during our lifetime an intifada where kids armed with slingshots were attacking soldiers armed with assault rifles.
Vetalia
17-12-2005, 03:22
Yeah, its not as if we ever experienced during our lifetime an intifada where kids armed with slingshots were attacking soldiers armed with assault rifles.

Yeah, but how would that turn out if that was your only defense?
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:23
Togo. :D
The Similized world
17-12-2005, 03:23
How about Monarco?
Malclavia
17-12-2005, 03:24
Monaco. It's tiny, and relies upon france for security.
Yeah, but the rich gamblers' bodyguards might put up a fight. :)

How about San Marino, if you can get Italy to stay neutral?
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:26
How about Monaco?
They probably have enough money to pay the US to defend them. Heh!
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 03:27
Vatican. Who're they gonna send? Da friggin' Pope?

The Swiss Guard?
Dobbsworld
17-12-2005, 03:30
Of course, I also selected the tiny Republic of Togo in the "Most Powerful" thread, so there you go. The glass is neither half-empty nor half-full.
Lotus Puppy
17-12-2005, 03:30
Moldova. It has no economy to speak of, and half the country is controlled by the Russians. Russia doesn't even border Moldova! However, that may change if Moldova joins the EU like it plans to.
Lotus Puppy
17-12-2005, 03:31
The Swiss Guard?
One of the most selective, highly trained, and best armed militaries in the world.
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:32
Of course, I also selected the tiny Republic of Togo in the "Most Powerful" thread, so there you go. The glass is neither half-empty nor half-full.
Not true! The glass is half empty 'cause that's all Togoans can afford! :D
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:33
One of the most selective, highly trained, and best armed militaries in the world.
Huh? I thought their "weapons" consisted of halberds and swords! :confused:
Past Midnight
17-12-2005, 03:34
I know this thread is for least powerful militaries, but what about Costa Rica? They have NO military! Although, admittedly, the tourism money probably has their economy going really strong...ignore me, I'm new. ^_^!
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:36
I know this thread is for least powerful militaries, but what about Costa Rica? They have NO military! Although, admittedly, the tourism money probably has their economy going really strong...ignore me, I'm new. ^_^!
No. Hi! :D
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 03:36
Huh? I thought their "weapons" consisted of halberds and swords! :confused:

That's what 'they' want you to believe. They are also equipped and trained in the use of SMGs.
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 03:38
Huh? I thought their "weapons" consisted of halberds and swords! :confused:

Yep, well known military tactic. Trick the enemy into thinking that you are weaker than you are ;)
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:39
That's what 'they' want you to believe. They are also equipped and trained in the use of SMGs.
Kewl. So now the Swiss Guard defend God with SMGs. :rolleyes:
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 03:40
Kewl. So now the Swiss Guard defend God with SMGs. :rolleyes:

DEUS EX SUBMACHINA.
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 03:40
Kewl. So now the Swiss Guard defend God with SMGs. :rolleyes:

I believe they defend his representative on earth.
Neu Leonstein
17-12-2005, 03:40
That's what 'they' want you to believe. They are also equipped and trained in the use of SMGs.
Plus, without professional military training from the Swiss Army you don't get in.
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:41
DEUS EX SUBMACHINA.
ROFLMAO! :D
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 03:41
DEUS EX SUBMACHINA.

Ha ha.

Well this day has got off to a good start.

Won't stay that way to :(
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:42
I believe they defend his representative on earth.
"Tu es Petros." seems to imply ... oh nevermind. :p
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:43
Plus, without professional military training from the Swiss Army you don't get in.
Damn! [ tears up his application ] :p
-Magdha-
17-12-2005, 03:45
Damn! [ tears up his application ] :p

Rofl, you're a hoot, Gramps! :D
United Balderdash
17-12-2005, 03:46
Anybody think of Pitcairn Island? There are about 40 people there, literally.
Iztatepopotla
17-12-2005, 03:50
Anybody think of Pitcairn Island? There are about 40 people there, literally.
Aren't they defended by Australia?
Navassa
17-12-2005, 03:52
Vatican City. :D

I have to agree, as the Vatican's Swiss Guard are all armed with halberds and the like. If you can deal with a bunch of angry Catholics, you can take over the city with such modern technology as a musket and a baseball bat.
Keruvalia
17-12-2005, 03:52
That would be the Kingdom of Jose Cuervo (now called the Republic of Tequila, I believe). The Jose Cuervo company bought an island off of the British Virgin Islands and declared independence.

Anna Nicole Smith is their Queen.

Yes, I'm serious.

http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,1065,00.html
Misunderestimates
17-12-2005, 03:53
Is there any particular reason why Haiti, the ACTUAL least powerful nation on earth, isn't on here?

Jw...

P.S.(dunno if hait gained power or not, but as of 4 months ago it was the least powerful...in policy debate anyway.....)
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:53
Rofl, you're a hoot, Gramps! :D
Thanks, but if you call me "Gramps" one ... more ... time! :mp5:
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:54
That would be the Kingdom of Jose Cuervo (now called the Republic of Tequila, I believe). The Jose Cuervo company bought an island off of the British Virgin Islands and declared independence.

Anna Nicole Smith is their Queen.

Yes, I'm serious.

http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,1065,00.html
OMFG!!! ROFLMFAO!!!!!
-Magdha-
17-12-2005, 03:54
Thanks, but if you call me "Gramps" one ... more ... time! :mp5:

*Checks imaginary watch*

Whoa, look at the time...gtg...buh-bye!

*Disappears, leaving a cloud of dust*
New Gourdland
17-12-2005, 03:55
However, that may change if Moldova joins the EU like it plans to.
Ah yes, Russia shall tremble before the might of nations such as Cyprus and Malta. You really don't want to mess with those guys.
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 03:56
Anybody think of Pitcairn Island? There are about 40 people there, literally.

There were 47, but then 6 of them got convicted of raping and indecently assaulting underage girls. I really think that the Pitcairn Islanders should put 'get a military' pretty low on their to-do list. They have more important shit to deal with first.
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:57
http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,1065,00.html
That's hilarious!

I especially like: "declaring an iguana named JC Roadhog as mascot." :D
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 03:57
I have to agree, as the Vatican's Swiss Guard are all armed with halberds and the like. If you can deal with a bunch of angry Catholics, you can take over the city with such modern technology as a musket and a baseball bat.

You see, there's one that has fallen for the trap. Recon is the most important part of any military operation.
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 03:58
*Checks imaginary watch*

Whoa, look at the time...gtg...buh-bye!

*Disappears, leaving a cloud of dust*
MUCH better! :D
Keruvalia
17-12-2005, 03:58
That's hilarious!

I especially like: "declaring an iguana named JC Roadhog as mascot." :D

Yep! I'd really like to visit there some time. I hear it's a lot of fun. :)
Iztatepopotla
17-12-2005, 03:59
That would be the Kingdom of Jose Cuervo (now called the Republic of Tequila, I believe). The Jose Cuervo company bought an island off of the British Virgin Islands and declared independence.

No way! That's hilarious. Although a tequila hangover can be a very nasty weapon.
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 04:00
Yep! I'd really like to visit there some time. I hear it's a lot of fun. :)
No shit! Tell you what .. I'll meet ya there and even buy the first rounds! :D
Iztatepopotla
17-12-2005, 04:01
Is there any particular reason why Haiti, the ACTUAL least powerful nation on earth, isn't on here?

I thought about it, but there are still a lot of guns and angry people there, even if they have next to nothing else.
Keruvalia
17-12-2005, 04:01
No shit! Tell you what .. I'll meet ya there and even buy the first rounds! :D

Woo! I wonder what it takes to get citizenship and since they're not a UN Nation, can we unilaterally go take over? You can be my Senior General of the Armies.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 04:03
Hmm, I remember a story of a man in Italy creating a country in his apartment. He renounced citizenship to Italy and all that such, and started printing his own money too. The Italian army was called in (literally) to break in and force the man to sign a document saying that his make-believe country does not exist, etc.

^ I think any of us with a baseball bat could have taken that country down *cough cough*
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 04:05
I have to agree, as the Vatican's Swiss Guard are all armed with halberds and the like. If you can deal with a bunch of angry Catholics, you can take over the city with such modern technology as a musket and a baseball bat.

Try it.


No honestly please.


You can't put a price on that sort of entertainment.


An elite fighting unit beating the crap out of somebody armed with nowt but an antique firearm and a wooden stick.
Beyer Garratt
17-12-2005, 04:07
Apparenrtly there is an extra state in Australia that's not on any maps. If my memory serves me correct, it was in northern WA somewhere. Some people declared a state or something like that; i saw it on the ABC ages ago. They have their own money and even a freakin economy (farmers, merchants and a pub) :eek:
Eutrusca
17-12-2005, 04:10
Woo! I wonder what it takes to get citizenship and since they're not a UN Nation, can we unilaterally go take over? You can be my Senior General of the Armies.
[ hauls out his old Army gear ] :D
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 04:10
An elite fighting unit beating the crap out of somebody armed with nowt but an antique firearm and a wooden stick.

Never mind that, just imagine if the takeover was successful: Navassa finds himself surrounded on all sides by a hostile nation. He has no agriculture, and the only source of food once supplies run out is going to be feasting on rats or birds. I am not sure if the Vatican City does actually have its own water supply, or if it is dependent on the graces of Rome for that one. To add to all that, he also has over a billion very pissed off Roman Catholics gunning for him. Overall I would say this plan needs a bit of work, unless recreating a medieval siege is the desired result.
Pennterra
17-12-2005, 04:11
San Marino. It's the second or third smallest country in the world, and is completely surrounded by Italy; it beats out Monaco as weakest because Monaco can get supplies by sea.

Don't knock the Vatican; they have the Swiss Guard. You just don't mess with the Swiss Guard.
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 04:15
Never mind that, just imagine if the takeover was successful: Navassa finds himself surrounded on all sides by a hostile nation. He has no agriculture, and the only source of food once supplies run out is going to be feasting on rats or birds. I am not sure if the Vatican City does actually have its own water supply, or if it is dependent on the graces of Rome for that one. To add to all that, he also has over a billion very pissed off Roman Catholics gunning for him. Overall I would say this plan needs a bit of work, unless recreating a medieval siege is the desired result.

Would it be on Pay Per View?


(On that topic. How does one get pay per view? I suppose I still need to complete Step 1: Get a TV)
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 04:17
I'm sure Italy would be real happy that he took over the Vatican. So happy in fact, they'd send in a greeting party.
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 04:25
I'm sure Italy would be real happy that he took over the Vatican. So happy in fact, they'd send in a greeting party.

This reminds me of a running "debate" (stupid jokey arguement) between me and a friend. Who would win if Italy went to war with the Vatican.
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 04:29
This reminds me of a running "debate" (stupid jokey arguement) between me and a friend. Who would win if Italy went to war with the Vatican.

The lawyers. They always do.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 04:32
I thought about it, but there are still a lot of guns and angry people there, even if they have next to nothing else.
Yeah, but they all have aids.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 04:35
Well, I'm sure Christians from all over the world would go for a Crusade against Italy. It really wouldn't be fair at all for Italy =\
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 04:37
Yeah, but they all have aids.

If you're going to troll you could at least capitalise properly.

Write out "Yeah, but they all have AIDS" a hundred times or you will be sent to detention.
Sinodia
17-12-2005, 04:38
Hmm, I remember a story of a man in Italy creating a country in his apartment. He renounced citizenship to Italy and all that such, and started printing his own money too. The Italian army was called in (literally) to break in and force the man to sign a document saying that his make-believe country does not exist, etc.

^ I think any of us with a baseball bat could have taken that country down *cough cough*


I remember on Family Guy they did that. I don't want to sound like someone who just watches TV though and I'm not. But Peter named his property Petoria because City Hall wouldn't let him dig his own swimming pool. Eventually, they invaded their neighbor's swimming pool, and were attacked by the Army, but unfortuately, the guy who names all the fancy operations wasn't there...
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 04:40
If you're going to troll you could at least capitalise properly
If you are going to insult me properly...spell it right.

"Capitalize". --- write that a hundred times.

And it was a fact, not a troll. 96.3 percent of Haiti's pop. has AIDS.
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 04:41
Well, I'm sure Christians from all over the world would go for a Crusade against Italy. It really wouldn't be fair at all for Italy =\

Well it is currently revolving around the issue of the "leetness" of the Swiss Guard and the Vatican Security Force, and the fact that Italy's army does exactly have a glowing military record ;)

(The fact that a significant portion of the Italian would probably switch sides was an interesting side bar for a while)
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 04:43
If you are going to insult me properly...spell it right.

"Capitalize". --- write that a hundred times.

And it was a fact, not a troll. 96.3 percent of Haiti's pop. has AIDS.

Sorry, but I couldn't let this go.

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/capitalise

I believe the British use the -se ending, as opposed to -ze.
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 04:45
Sorry, but I couldn't let this go.

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/capitalise

I believe the British use the -se ending, as opposed to -ze.

A fact I'm sure AA knows, but is just camping up an America-centric attitude.


I hope.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 04:45
Well it is currently revolving around the issue of the "leetness" of the Swiss Guard and the Vatican Security Force, and the fact that Italy's army does exactly have a glowing military record ;)

(The fact that a significant portion of the Italian would probably switch sides was an interesting side bar for a while)

Hey man, you can take down tanks and such with halberds, of course! Any decent RTS game will allow that :)

On the other hand, I bet the Swiss Guard is like the British Royal Guards. uberleet (i couldnt write uber133uknowwhatcomesnext. it came out as asterisks)
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 04:45
Sorry, but I couldn't let this go.

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/capitalise

I believe the British use the -se ending, as opposed to -ze.
I believe that definition speaks of "gain capital", as in money, land, etc. The definition even has the word "capitalize" in it!!

(and yeah...i know the brits spell it dif...)
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 04:46
If you are going to insult me properly...spell it right.

"Capitalize". --- write that a hundred times.

capitalize or -ise vb. (mainly tr.)

The Collins Concise Dictionary, Second Edition, 1988, Collins, London & Glasgow.

And it was a fact, not a troll. 96.3 percent of Haiti's pop. has AIDS.

I was under the ludicrous impression that 'all' meant 100%, but it appears that I have been sadly mistaken.

So, if I have 100 apples, and you take all of them, I then have 3.7 apples left, yes?
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 04:48
I was under the ludicrous impression that 'all' meant 100%, but it appears that I have been sadly mistaken.

So, if I have 100 apples, and you take all of them, I then have 3.7 apples left, yes?
Precisely.
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 04:48
I believe that definition speaks of "gain capital", as in money, land, etc. The definition even has the word "capitalize" in it!!

(and yeah...i know the brits spell it dif...)


You didn't read down as far as definition 4, I take it?
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 04:49
You didn't read down as far as definition 4, I take it?
<.<

>.>

Maybe...
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 04:52
And note that "capitalize" always comes before "capitalise". This might just a ludicrous impression that it's used more often...but ok, I'll grant that you can spell it "capitalise"....i had never heard or seen it spelled that way...(you can see how much time i spend with the british....)
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 04:52
Precisely.

And if you were then to take all the apples I had remaining, then I would still have 0.1369 apples left, yes?

We appear to have become embroiled in an ongoing Tortoise/Achilles situation here.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 04:53
And if you were then to take all the apples I had remaining, then I would still have 0.1369 apples left, yes?

We appear to have become embroiled in an ongoing Tortoise/Achilles situation here.
Exactly.

Apples are a mysterious thing...
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 05:00
Exactly.

Apples are a mysterious thing...

It would be a terrible thing for this demonstration of the impossibility of change then if I were to point out that 'only' an estimated 3.1 to 6.1% of the Haitian population are in fact HIV positive.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 05:02
Oh let's stop, it's obvious Apostle isn't an idiot. I couldn't stop laughing after you went and said exactly to BWO's question.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 05:03
It would be a terrible thing for this demonstration of the impossibility of change then if I were to point out that 'only' an estimated 3.1 to 6.1% of the Haitian population are in fact HIV positive.
Yeah that WOULD suck...however....the fact remains that it is in teh 90 percent range, depending on how many have dies in the past 3-6 months.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 05:04
Oh let's stop, it's obvious Apostle isn't an idiot. I couldn't stop laughing after you went and said exactly to BWO's question.
Ok, I'm done. Those damn apples......every time....
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 05:11
Yeah that WOULD suck...however....the fact remains that it is in teh 90 percent range, depending on how many have dies in the past 3-6 months.

Obviously the 'lizard people' are stopping this information becoming widely known on the internet and for their own nefarious purposes are replacing every reference to the 90% range with an average figure of about 6% (although as high as 12-15% in urban areas). Damn cunning of them.

Care to link us to a site where they haven't got their fiendish claws into the mix and covered up the 'real' percentage which you claim?

Of course, if about 93.3% of all Haitians had actually died in the past 3-6 months, and none of them were HIV positive, then there would be a rate in the 90% range. Strange that such a cataclysm hasn't made the news.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 05:14
Obviously the 'lizard people' are stopping this information becoming widely known on the internet and for their own nefarious purposes are replacing every reference to the 90% range with an average figure of about 6% (although as high as 12-15% in urban areas). Damn cunning of them.

Care to link us to a site where they haven't got their fiendish claws into the mix and covered up the 'real' percentage which you claim?

Of course, if about 93.3% of all Haitians had actually died in the past 3-6 months, and none of them were HIV positive, then there would be a rate in the 90% range. Strange that such a cataclysm hasn't made the news.
It would be quite tough as the lizard people have stopped this info. from becoming widely used on the net. I'll have to go buy a brand new world almanac, and get back to you.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 05:16
There'd be a lot of Haitians in my neighborhood who would be sad that 93.whatever% of their native countrymen died.

Wait, I live in a chinese neighborhood, nevermind.

Back to the topic, Who thinks Switzerland can be beaten? They haven't had a war in like forever (no, WW2 doesn't really count, only because I have no idea what happened to them then), and all that strikes my mind when I think of the Swiss is their cheese, their clocks, and the Sound of Music (I'm not even sure if that was set there, I think it was).
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 05:19
Back to the topic, Who thinks Switzerland can be beaten? They haven't had a war in like forever (no, WW2 doesn't really count, only because I have no idea what happened to them then), and all that strikes my mind when I think of the Swiss is their cheese, their clocks, and the Sound of Music (I'm not even sure if that was set there, I think it was).
Well...seeing as all of that is true...who would want to fight switzerland in the first place, it's awesome!!
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 05:19
Back to the topic, Who thinks Switzerland can be beaten? They haven't had a war in like forever (no, WW2 doesn't really count, only because I have no idea what happened to them then), and all that strikes my mind when I think of the Swiss is their cheese, their clocks, and the Sound of Music (I'm not even sure if that was set there, I think it was).

Fairly good potential for a lot of well trained irregular soldiers who know the local terrain which isn't the easiest terrain to assault (especially if the soldiers are unfamiliar with it). High guns per capita rate.

I'd say they'd have a good chance.
Anarchic Conceptions
17-12-2005, 05:20
Well...seeing as all of that is true...who would want to fight switzerland in the first place, it's awesome!!

For gold, cuckoo clocks and glory?
Megaloria
17-12-2005, 05:20
Vatican. Who're they gonna send? Da friggin' Pope?

You underestimate the power of Battle Pope!

http://www.woofofsteel.com/woof_blog/archives/p00.jpg
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 05:23
For gold, cuckoo clocks and glory?
And absolute reign over the swiss-cheese market.

Gotta love swiss cheese.
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 05:24
...and all that strikes my mind when I think of the Swiss is their cheese, their clocks, and the Sound of Music (I'm not even sure if that was set there, I think it was).

Hmmm. First three things about Switzerland... Nazi Gold, the crossbow and hundreds of years of tradition in fighting other people's wars for them as mercenaries.
The Lightning Star
17-12-2005, 05:24
Panama. In fact, it's army was so ineffective when they actually HAD one that they decided to get rid of it. So now they have no army.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 05:27
And also, gotta remember that all the money in the world flows there(Switz). Illegal money that is.

And btw, Megaloria, I declare war on you for making me snort water from seeing the BattlePope
Novoga
17-12-2005, 05:29
There'd be a lot of Haitians in my neighborhood who would be sad that 93.whatever% of their native countrymen died.

Wait, I live in a chinese neighborhood, nevermind.

Back to the topic, Who thinks Switzerland can be beaten? They haven't had a war in like forever (no, WW2 doesn't really count, only because I have no idea what happened to them then), and all that strikes my mind when I think of the Swiss is their cheese, their clocks, and the Sound of Music (I'm not even sure if that was set there, I think it was).

Actually the German Military during World War Two did a study to see if it would be possible to invade Switzerland. They decided that since most Swiss owned a firearm it would be too difficult.

I'm actually planning on turning my house into my own country (I have never heard of Family Guy...). It will be called Initech (I have never seen or heard of Office Space). The Military will be me armed with 5 pellet guns. I have no doubt that I can take on the Canadian Military.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 05:32
Actually the German Military during World War Two did a study to see if it would be possible to invade Switzerland. They decided that since most Swiss owned a firearm it would be too difficult.

I'm actually planning on turning my house into my own country (I have never heard of Family Guy...). It will be called Initech (I have never seen or heard of Office Space). The Military will be me armed with 5 pellet guns. I have no doubt that I can take on the Canadian Military.

If you do, be afraid of the Canadian Navy. I mean, they sent out 3 battleships to claim an iceberg, I wouldn't doubt an aircraft carrier for you if you decided to make your own country.

Of course, I'm not too sure if they have planes that run off a carrier in Canada.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 05:33
I'm actually planning on turning my house into my own country (I have never heard of Family Guy...). It will be called Initech (I have never seen or heard of Office Space). The Military will be me armed with 5 pellet guns. I have no doubt that I can take on the Canadian Military.
It might be tough, the canadians have weapons made of....they have a lot of...they have....

Yeah, you could take 'em.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 05:35
If you do, be afraid of the Canadian Navy. I mean, they sent out 3 battleships to claim an iceberg, I wouldn't doubt an aircraft carrier for you if you decided to make your own country.

Of course, I'm not too sure if they have planes that run off a carrier in Canada.
Ok, this just made me laugh.

Why are the canadians sending battleships to claim an iceberg. This has got to be the most humorous thing i have ever heard. Just picture the canadians fighting off....cold weather....to claim a chunk of ice.

You are my hero.
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 05:36
I have no doubt that I can take on the Canadian Military.

* The ghosts of Juno beach can be heard laughing ethereally at Novoga. *
The Lightning Star
17-12-2005, 05:36
If you do, be afraid of the Canadian Navy. I mean, they sent out 3 battleships to claim an iceberg, I wouldn't doubt an aircraft carrier for you if you decided to make your own country.

Of course, I'm not too sure if they have planes that run off a carrier in Canada.

Does Canada even have an aircraft carrier?
The Lightning Star
17-12-2005, 05:37
* The ghosts of Juno beach can be heard laughing ethereally at Novoga. *

Well, it's been a while since 1944, bucko.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 05:39
Ok, this just made me laugh.

Why are the canadians sending battleships to claim an iceberg. This has got to be the most humorous thing i have ever heard. Just picture the canadians fighting off....cold weather....to claim a chunk of ice.

You are my hero.

I remember when my friend told me that story, I asked "Why?"

"Well, they were afriad someone else would claim the iceberg"
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 05:41
Well, it's been a while since 1944, bucko.

True, but they have a documented track record of success, which is more than can probably be said for Novoga.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 05:41
I remember when my friend told me that story, I asked "Why?"

"Well, they were afriad someone else would claim the iceberg"
I did not think it possible to snort an entire strand of spaghetti out of your nose from laughter.

I was dead wrong.
The Lightning Star
17-12-2005, 05:46
True, but they have a documented track record of success, which is more than can probably be said for Novoga.

A point well made, my friend, a point well made.
San Texario
17-12-2005, 06:12
I just want to see Nogova's declaration of independence :rolleyes:

Hm. I would have to say for this one...Djibouti, because I've never heard of anyone...living there.
Harkalistan
17-12-2005, 06:13
You're All wrong.



Sealand (http://www.sealandgov.com/)
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 06:14
You're All wrong.



Sealand (http://www.sealandgov.com/)

IT'S A SEA FORT.

I'd love to see you invade that.
Harkalistan
17-12-2005, 06:15
a sea fort held by a bunch of web hosting nerds.


yeah...a real task
Bodies Without Organs
17-12-2005, 06:16
IT'S A SEA FORT.

I'd love to see you invade that.

Its been done already. Despite their initial gains the invaders were repulsed and captured.
Harkalistan
17-12-2005, 06:18
Its been done already. Despite their initial gains the invaders were repulsed and captured.


That was back when the Royal Family lived there. From what I understand only the hosting nerds occupy the island. hell,I could take over sealand with a kitchen knife.
Falhaar2
17-12-2005, 06:18
Apparenrtly there is an extra state in Australia that's not on any maps. If my memory serves me correct, it was in northern WA somewhere. Some people declared a state or something like that; i saw it on the ABC ages ago. They have their own money and even a freakin economy (farmers, merchants and a pub) :eek: If I recall, they declared war on Australia a few years ago, and the government figured it wasn't worth spending the money to actually defeat them so they let them declare victory.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 06:19
Its been done already. Despite their initial gains the invaders were repulsed and captured.

Yes well, my fingers couldn't be tasked with scrolling down.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 06:20
If I recall, they declared war on Australia a few years ago, and the government figured it wasn't worth spending the money to actually defeat them so they let them declare victory.

That is the COOLEST way to beat a nation.

Except the nation in question is Australia, so meh
Harkalistan
17-12-2005, 06:21
If I recall, they declared war on Australia a few years ago, and the government figured it wasn't worth spending the money to actually defeat them so they let them declare victory.



Im pretty they declared war on Germany also
Falhaar2
17-12-2005, 06:29
That is the COOLEST way to beat a nation.

Except the nation in question is Australia, so meh *hurls flaming shrimp in Weeeeeeeeeeeeee's direction*
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 06:31
*hurls flaming shrimp in Weeeeeeeeeeeeee's direction*

Thanks for the shrimp saute. I was planning to visit a Red Lobster too.
Aplastaland
17-12-2005, 12:51
What? The Vatican is the most powerful country in the world! Just attack it, sit and watch what happens...

I vote for San Marino, or Andorra.
Harlesburg
17-12-2005, 12:55
Crap i just voted Vatican but then realised they are very powerful.

Monaco or Tonga for least powerful.
Lienor
17-12-2005, 13:08
Nauru. What army?Agreed. Obviously the rest of you haven't heard of this pointless little island.
Neu Leonstein
17-12-2005, 13:11
Agreed. Obviously the rest of you haven't heard of this pointless little island.
Australia keeps its concentration camp there, so they'll probably be committed to Nauru's defense.
Harlesburg
17-12-2005, 13:12
Agreed. Obviously the rest of you haven't heard of this pointless little island.
It may be pointless but it has a purpose....
-To hold potential Immigrants to Australia.:p
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 14:01
Australia keeps its concentration camp there, so they'll probably be committed to Nauru's defense.

That's to keep people in! And besides, I'm sure they'd fall for some girl scout cookies...

nuclear cookies that is :)
Heavenly Sex
17-12-2005, 14:03
Vatican! They suck so tremendously :mad:
Geez... why has no one stomped these retards yet?
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
17-12-2005, 14:16
Vatican! They suck so tremendously :mad:
Geez... why has no one stomped these retards yet?

Because the millions of Christians in the world would thoroughly pwn whoever tries.

Not to mention the Swiss Guard would probably have a battlecruiser in orbit or something
The Squeaky Rat
17-12-2005, 14:58
What? The Vatican is the most powerful country in the world! Just attack it, sit and watch what happens...

*The* is an exaggeration. But where political influence and international following is concerned they definately have excellent papers. Economically and where their offensive military is concerend however they are not that impressive.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-12-2005, 15:25
This may just be my favorite NS thread so far. Hardly awake and already laughing :D

I'd keep my hands off Haiti though - Voodoo much, anyone?
Quagmus
17-12-2005, 17:00
Agreed. Obviously the rest of you haven't heard of this pointless little island.

Is Nauru not one of the more significant nations in the Coalition of the Willing?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-12-2005, 17:03
Is Nauru not one of the more significant nations in the Coalition of the Willing?

I think that was Palau (too lazy to check, s/o will post a link anyway ;) )
Critz
17-12-2005, 17:12
The people who've said it's the Vatican haven't given it much thought, the Catholic church has over one million members and the pope is it's head, if that doesn't hold political sway I don't know what does.
Only One million?????????????
Ther is more than that just in the Boston area alone. Probably 20% or more of the worlds population is Catholic. The Catholic church is the most powerful government on Earth.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 18:18
This may just be my favorite NS thread so far. Hardly awake and already laughing :D

I'd keep my hands off Haiti though - Voodoo much, anyone?
Trust me, don't start with haiti again. All sorts of things will happen to you, staring off with infinite apples and ending with lizard people.

Unless you like that sort of thing.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-12-2005, 19:08
Trust me, don't start with haiti again. All sorts of things will happen to you, staring off with infinite apples and ending with lizard people.

Well, if that doesn't sound like Voodoo right there!

Of course, that's why I wouldn't mess with Haiti in the first place, as opposed to, say, advocating an easy invasion based on the fact that 96.3% of the population plus a couple lizards have AIDS. But hey, who'd do that? :p
Neo Danube
17-12-2005, 19:15
Somalia

Without a government, there's very little power a state can have
Aust
17-12-2005, 19:20
The channel island of Sark. It's about 1/2 a mile across, and inhabited by 1 millionare who brought island years and years ago. In fact he's proably dead now and his less rich sons live there. All 4 of them.
N Y C
17-12-2005, 19:27
Monaco. It's tiny, and relies upon france for security.

Basically it's fucked.
But, like Luxembourg(sp?) and Lichtenstein(sp?), it's small but also rediculously rich...
N Y C
17-12-2005, 19:31
Sark is admistered by the UK. If we count semi-dependent territories, I nominate Monserrat. 2/3rds of the island, including the airport and capital, were rendered nonexistant/uninhabitable by a volcano.
Sonaj
17-12-2005, 19:41
Not true! The glass is half empty 'cause that's all Togoans can afford! :D
I think they're called Togas.:p

Why isn't Iceland in the poll? They have a coastguard and an anti-terrorist unit. As long as the american NATO-forces don't deploy, I don't think there's a whole lot they could do...
Whereyouthinkyougoing
17-12-2005, 19:41
I nominate Monserrat. 2/3rds of the island, including the airport and capital, were rendered nonexistant/uninhabitable by a volcano.
Yeah, but their national soccer team totally pwned Bhutan's. Up in the Himalayans, to boot. Must be their Secret Tectonic Super Power. It's so secret, nobody knows they've taken over the world years ago.
Inns mouth
17-12-2005, 19:43
Youve all got it wrong, Disneyland is obviusly the least powerfull nation in the world.
The Wolf Archipelago
17-12-2005, 19:51
Sealand is could be taken over by a group of cranky four year olds.
Shinjimae
17-12-2005, 19:52
Anyone who said Vatican city isn't thinking about what they are saying. The pope is at the head of almost 2 billion catholics in the world. If he called up an army then the vatican would have no problem defending itself. Look at the Crusades man....:rolleyes:
Dominicai
17-12-2005, 19:55
moldavia cos it doesn't exist
Drunk commies deleted
17-12-2005, 20:03
Vatican. Who're they gonna send? Da friggin' Pope?
It might surprise you to hear this, but there are a bunch of Catholics who would defend their faith with their lives. Many of them live in Latin America and Africa, but some live in developed areas too. The ones in developed areas will buy the guns and plane tickets.
Gataway_Driver
17-12-2005, 20:12
Andorra
Adjacent to Belarus
17-12-2005, 20:45
The people who've said it's the Vatican haven't given it much thought, the Catholic church has over one million members and the pope is it's head, if that doesn't hold political sway I don't know what does.

The country is less than 0.5 square km, for crying out loud. The definition of "least powerful" according to the original poster is the ease with which it could be taken over, remember. They would have nowhere near enough time to "rally the masses," so to speak, before they got their asses handed to them on a silver platter.
The Crooked Beat
17-12-2005, 20:53
Out of those choices, I'd have to say Vatican City. All the Swiss Guards have are spears. They've got guns everywhere else.
Freedomsville O Brian
17-12-2005, 21:07
Yea out of the list I would say the Vatican is the weakest, because the only job there is to protect the Pope. However, if the Pope does come under attack then he'll have all the Catholics in the world backing him - so that'll be a big army. I don't think Maldovia should count because they'll have the backing of Russia...and if Belize has an army then I haven't seen it (I thought they didn't have one). I haven't heard of the other countries - did they just spring up overnite ? ;) Anywho, I think the easiest country to take over would have to be America - because I mean - well c'mon - Bush is a f*cking moron and he pulled it off ... so how hard can it be ???
Lokiaa
17-12-2005, 21:08
I seem to recall some guy declaring himself King of the Moon. I'm pretty sure that monarchy is quite deposable.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 21:09
Well, if that doesn't sound like Voodoo right there!

Of course, that's why I wouldn't mess with Haiti in the first place, as opposed to, say, advocating an easy invasion based on the fact that 96.3% of the population plus a couple lizards have AIDS. But hey, who'd do that? :p
Pissed off girl scouts with pointy sticks, apparently.
[NS]Olara
17-12-2005, 21:11
Why is Belize a choice? I thought the British didn't mess around when it came to their former colonies.

I side with whomever voted Monaco.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 21:13
Anywho, I think the easiest country to take over would have to be America - because I mean - well c'mon - Bush is a f*cking moron and he pulled it off ... so how hard can it be ???
Ok, I just have to say something to this.

Pearl Harbor, hundreds of bombs. America got mad.
Hiroshima, america dropped TWO bombs. Japan forfieted.

Let's see YOU take over america hotshot.
New Stalinberg
17-12-2005, 21:40
Um, the Vatican City has the SWISS GUARD! :sniper: They sure as hell will not go down without a fight!

Tuvulu. THAT is a country that I could single handedly take over with my 1940s carbine. It's a total of 9 square miles total. If your wondering where it is It's in Oceania... Find New Zealand and then look North East or so.
New Stalinberg
17-12-2005, 21:42
Somalia

Without a government, there's very little power a state can have

When I become dictator of the world, I'm going to glass that country a thousand times over.
Aust
17-12-2005, 22:15
Sark is admistered by the UK. If we count semi-dependent territories, I nominate Monserrat. 2/3rds of the island, including the airport and capital, were rendered nonexistant/uninhabitable by a volcano.
Oh right! I didn't know that, ta.
Laerod
17-12-2005, 22:27
Has anyone really bothered thinking about what power means besides military might? The Vatican can and does influence the catholic populations around the world and can thereby lobby in favor of its interest in national legislation. The most recent such event was the failing of a referendum in Italy that the Pope called Catholics to vote against.
Everyone payed homage to the late Pope John Paul II. The EU even temporarily lifted its ban on Robert Mugabe so he could visit the ceremony.
None of the other countries seem to have that kind of power, so the Vatican shouldn't really be on that list.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 23:39
When I become dictator of the world, I'm going to glass that country a thousand times over.
Do Gwen Stefani too, I can't stand that woman.
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 23:43
Has anyone really bothered thinking about what power means besides military might? The Vatican can and does influence the catholic populations around the world and can thereby lobby in favor of its interest in national legislation. The most recent such event was the failing of a referendum in Italy that the Pope called Catholics to vote against.
Everyone payed homage to the late Pope John Paul II. The EU even temporarily lifted its ban on Robert Mugabe so he could visit the ceremony.
None of the other countries seem to have that kind of power, so the Vatican shouldn't really be on that list.
Have you bothered to read the title on the poll? Least powerful military on earth.
However, agreed on the vatican topic. The vatican has probably got to be the MOST powerful nation when it comes to followers and power over people, so there really can't be a place for it on a poll about overall least powerful nations. Judged on military might though, it's not that wrathful.
Droskianishk
17-12-2005, 23:46
Actually the catholic church has over a billion members. Its the largest sect of christianity on the planet. IT also has the Swiss guard. And its a known fact that the swiss guard can kick the french military's ass at any time of the day. (IF they haven't fixed the thing on google.com go to google type in French Military Victories and hit I'm feeling lucky)
The Aryan Apostle
17-12-2005, 23:49
Actually the catholic church has over a billion members. Its the largest sect of christianity on the planet. IT also has the Swiss guard. And its a known fact that the swiss guard can kick the french military's ass at any time of the day. (IF they haven't fixed the thing on google.com go to google type in French Military Victories and hit I'm feeling lucky)A very true point. Yet, the power of the vatican at any given time by itself is not that militarily impressive. While in a moments notice the rest of the world would be all ofer you for blowing up the vatican, the vatican itself is not that militarily impressive.
New Stalinberg
17-12-2005, 23:49
While your at it, type in "Failure" It's hilarious.
Neo Mishakal
17-12-2005, 23:53
The least powerful country in the world is...

France!
The Aryan Apostle
18-12-2005, 00:27
The least powerful country in the world is...

France!
Ok. Reasoning......................?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-12-2005, 00:31
Ok. Reasoning......................?

You don't really think you'll find any reasoning there, do you?
The Aryan Apostle
18-12-2005, 00:33
You don't really think you'll find any reasoning there, do you?
Nah. Just wanted a legit bump w/o spamming,
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-12-2005, 00:40
Nah. Just wanted a legit bump w/o spamming,

Heh :D. And here I was doubting your sanity for a moment, tsk.
The Aryan Apostle
18-12-2005, 00:46
Heh :D. And here I was doubting your sanity for a moment, tsk.
Quite alright. Not the first time it's happened.;)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-12-2005, 00:50
Quite alright. Not the first time it's happened.;)

Well, there was that post about Haiti that caused all the infinite apples... ;)
Shqipes
18-12-2005, 00:55
i would go with fiji- its a tiiiiny island, and im not even sure if they have a military
CthulhuFhtagn
18-12-2005, 01:16
Out of those choices, I'd have to say Vatican City. All the Swiss Guards have are spears.
And SMGs.
Bodies Without Organs
18-12-2005, 03:01
And SMGs.

Which probably makes them the only army in the world with personal weapons which have sufficient range to strike anywhere else in their nation, regardless of where the guard is positioned. I'd like to see the US manage that.
M3rcenaries
18-12-2005, 03:34
Swaziland- Any country smaller than Louisana whose adult population is 40% afflicted with AIDS, and has no army is obviously fucked.
Props to them for being the last country with a king however, and I must admit the king is quite a pimp.
Moantha
18-12-2005, 03:48
Props to them for being the last country with a king however, and I must admit the king is quite a pimp.

*coughcough* England *coughcough* granted they currently have a queen, but the operative word is monarchy.

Plus a few Scandinavian countries. Sweden, I think...
Dobbsworld
18-12-2005, 03:50
*coughcough* England *coughcough* granted they currently have a queen, but the operative word is monarchy.

Plus a few Scandinavian countries. Sweden, I think...
Spain has a King...

Monaco has a Prince...

The Netherlands has a Queen...
Laevus Dementis
18-12-2005, 05:37
The people who've said it's the Vatican haven't given it much thought, the Catholic church has over one million members and the pope is it's head, if that doesn't hold political sway I don't know what does.

More like >1 billion.
BTW, girl scouts with pointy sticks would have a hard time against Swiss Guardsmen with halberds and lucerne hammers! Not to mention the "real" security team with assault weapons and extensive training.
The Crooked Beat
18-12-2005, 05:53
And SMGs.

Yeah but the 7.62x39mm Kalashnikov bullet is going to do a lot more damage than some 9x19mm parabellum, unless of course the Pope has been working on some pistol super bullet in his spare time.

And anyone can get an Ak-47. Even the Swazis with their wacko king and number one AIDS rank. I mean, let's face it, Vatican City is so small most places could beat it by throwing rocks at it for a significant amount of time.
Bodies Without Organs
18-12-2005, 06:08
Swaziland- Any country smaller than Louisana whose adult population is 40% afflicted with AIDS, and has no army is obviously fucked.


About 40% infected with HIV although not with full-blown AIDS, but anyhoo... M3rcenaries is in for a surprise when the 3,500 soldiers of the Umbutfo Royal Defence Force appear to wreck his invasion plans. Lesson one: recon.
Harlesburg
18-12-2005, 07:38
Because the millions of Christians in the world would thoroughly pwn whoever tries.

Not to mention the Swiss Guard would probably have a battlecruiser in orbit or something
Billions mate Billions.
*Evil Grin*
Layarteb
18-12-2005, 07:43
Vatican City = Church = 2,000 years of wealth...not weak at all...

Malta maybe lol (inside joke for kid in my class from Malta)
Borderstan
18-12-2005, 08:07
More like >1 billion.
BTW, girl scouts with pointy sticks would have a hard time against Swiss Guardsmen with halberds and lucerne hammers! Not to mention the "real" security team with assault weapons and extensive training.
Contrary topopular opinion, the Swiss guard is far more dangerous than it looks. In World War II, after the Italian people had forced Mussolini out of power, the Swiss Guard alone managed to hold off the occupying German army armed only with aforementioned Halbards, pikes and swords.
Not to mention that every single guardsman is trained by the swiss military as an elite soldier. And by the way, they are the "real" security team. With automatic weapons and extemsive training. It's just that the guardsmen out in public don't have their sub-machine guns, so you don't really get to see that side of them...
Plus there is usually the Italian Police force standing by to give a helping hand, although their help might be questionable in times of war, unless they switched sides due to extreme faith...
Inbreedia
18-12-2005, 08:45
Vatican is in the list? Are you cracked?!?!?!

For one, even though most of you think that religion has no relevance, the Vatican still weilds a hell of alot of political influence, thanks to the pope and the Catholic Church. And that in turn influences millions of Catholics, and vicariously Christians, as well. They have also influenced the world since the Roman Empire. To trace every Vatican influence you would need a pretty long list.

Least powerful nation my ass. For a small chunk of land, it has a disproportionate amount of power.

That, and they have the Swiss Guard. They're hardcore. ;)

I picked Vanatu because unlike Vanatu, i've heard of all the other nations. :)
Areinnye
18-12-2005, 11:16
FEAR the vatican City!
you don't want to fight a horde of billions of Christians!

I rather think that the netherlands are the weakest, don't want to send their army when it could be a little dagerous...
Jondalar Ayla
18-12-2005, 11:40
Vanuatu is a island group near Australia - the only reason I know is one of my friend was born there.

And does it matter anyway which is the weakest nation?
Callisdrun
18-12-2005, 11:43
Lichtenstein. Never heard of it? That's why it gets my vote for least powerful.

Oh, and Vatican City shouldn't be on the list. It's tiny, yes, but it's the seat of the Catholic church, a very large religion. Even if you don't care about the Pope, the fact is, that when he says something, an awful lot of people listen. And the Swiss Guard, despite some having funny suits, are not guys to be trifled with, either.

Pitcairn island is quite powerless as well. The only reason it hasn't been annexed is probably because no one thinks it's really worth it.
Mazalandia
18-12-2005, 16:08
France!

J/k

Probably East Timor.

Nah The Australians will defend East Timor, we helped them kick out Indonesia
Inns mouth
19-12-2005, 03:33
*coughcough* England *coughcough* granted they currently have a queen, but the operative word is monarchy.

Plus a few Scandinavian countries. Sweden, I think...

Sweden and Denmark, but the fact is that neither the queen of England, Denmark, or the king of Sweden have any imediate power, sure the Danish queen can rebel the goverment or refuse them access to the seat of power, but if she where to actjully do that it wouldent even be 10 minuts before Denmark would be very close to its first bloody rebelion in the known history of mankind, most monarchs may have power on paper but they are in no way powerfull enough to influence politics directly (in other words there "of with her head!" commands wont be followed.)

Leaving us back at square one: Swaziland being the only country left with a king with direct political influence.

Apart from that as said before disneyland (or is it disneyworld? the american one...) is infact a country, something about them not being allowed to own that much land otherwise, but obviusly the theme park is left without an army (unless you count the pirats of the caribian) obviusly making it the weakest country in the world.

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Super-power
19-12-2005, 03:35
Vatican. Who're they gonna send? Da friggin' Pope?
I can see the Pope's laser-targeted defense now....
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!
Exetonia
19-12-2005, 03:43
Yeah Vatican is probbaly the most powerful..
Funky Evil
19-12-2005, 03:51
All you people who voted for the vatican are retarded. Not only are there about million swiss gaurds in the city (who, by the way, have training and skills comparable to that of the US's elite green berets), but the second anyone attacks the vatican , every country with a catholic population will retaliate.

I mean honestly. Think.
The Serbians
19-12-2005, 03:52
Canada, the military is made up of 50.000 people, 25.000 of which are offic personnel, and they have one of the longest borderlines in the world, its impossible to defend.

PS We all know who has the strongest military in the world, yeah I do, Russia, but you wre probably thinking of America. Don't jump to conclusions based on what you hear on TV.

PS 40% of the people here = dumb enough to vote vatican, and are, ironically, plaing a political simulation:headbang:
Aggretia
19-12-2005, 04:02
Huh? I thought their "weapons" consisted of halberds and swords! :confused:

No. Halberds, swords, pistols, submachineguns, assault rifles, and I'm sure they've got a couple heavy machine guns and anti-tank weapons in their arsenal just in case.
The Serbians
19-12-2005, 04:03
FEAR the vatican City!
you don't want to fight a horde of billions of Christians!

I rather think that the netherlands are the weakest, don't want to send their army when it could be a little dagerous...


Ummm, Vatican doesn't command all Christians dumbass.

Orthodoxy will own the world soon enough, unless Islam beats us to it.
Eurasian Fascio
19-12-2005, 04:06
Vatican. Who're they gonna send? Da friggin' Pope?

Actually, Vatican City has some of those handy Swiss Pikemen, so there might be a great battle remembered throughout the ages between the Pikemen and the girlscouts.
Inns mouth
19-12-2005, 04:07
Canada, the military is made up of 50.000 people, 25.000 of which are offic personnel, and they have one of the longest borderlines in the world, its impossible to defend.

Thats why they have undercover killerdear scouting the border constantly, as soon as an invasionary force is encountered they run to the nearest camp calling the grizzles to action.
Makes me wonder who would win, the Vatican vs 1000 grizzly bears.. would surely make the best reality tv-show ever.
Eurasian Fascio
19-12-2005, 04:10
I think I've found a winner... (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/bv.html)
The Archregimancy
19-12-2005, 04:11
I'll vote for the Pacific Island nation of Nauru, which most European micro-states could easily conquer in a war if it wasn't on the opposite side of the world.

Salient Nauru facts:

Population - c. 13,000

Land Area - 21 sq. km

Arable land - 0%

Exports - $640,000 (2004 estimate)

Imports - $19.8 million (2004 estimate)

Armed forces - 0. None. Not a sausage.


Nauru was granted independence in 1968, and for a while managed to gain one of the highest 3rd world per capita incomes - on a par with Gulf oil states - on the back of extensive phosphate deposits. Less charitably, its entire interior consisted of high-value fossilised bird sh*t.

Those deposits have now virtually run out, and it now turns out that the phosphate income trust funds the nation set up to guarantee the island's future were either manipulated by con men or dipped into by the government, and Nauru is now essentially bankrupt.

All of its once-extensive Australian real estate investments - including Nauru house, once the tallest building in Melbourne - have been repossessed, Air Nauru is struggling to hold on to its one remaining airplane, telephone service was recently briefly cut off when the nation wasn't able to pay its bills, and what's left of the economy is largely kept afloat by Australia in exchange for Nauru hosting off-shore refugee centres (now virtually empty) on Australia's behalf.

And on top of that, the island is facing ecological disaster as several decades of phosphate mining have left the interior a virtually unihabitable moonscape wasteland.

Monaco, Liechtenstein and San Marino look like superpowers in comparison, and Vanuatu is much, much healthier. And before a Kiwi tries to say 'Niue', Niue isn't an independent state - it's a self-governing territory in free association with New Zealand, or what most of us used to call a self-governing colony.

And Eurasian Fascio, Bouvet Island doesn't count either - it's an uninhabited possession of Norway.
Alta Vexus
19-12-2005, 04:13
Iceland. Iceland has NO military at all. Of course they could still probably take the french.......
Huynhs
19-12-2005, 04:21
Not sure about what year the statistics are from but why don't you use this site:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/mil_arm_for_per_cap
The Serbians
19-12-2005, 04:25
I think I've found a winner... (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/bv.html)

Military - note:
Definition Field Listing
defense is the responsibility of Norway

Don't think so.
The Serbians
19-12-2005, 04:27
LOL @ the people that voted Djibouti


#6 Djibouti 16.7819 per 1,000 people
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 04:51
Leaving us back at square one: Swaziland being the only country left with a king with direct political influence.

The only country with a king with direct political influence (apart from Thailand, Tonga, Bhutan, Qatar, Jordan, Morocco, Nepal, Bahrain, Cambodia and Saudi Arabia).
Inns mouth
19-12-2005, 04:52
Iceland. Iceland has NO military at all. Of course they could still probably take the french.......


defense is provided by the US-manned Icelandic Defense Force (IDF) headquartered at Keflavik

Yea sure..
Bodies Without Organs
19-12-2005, 04:53
Yea sure..

They also have several lightly armed coastguard vessels, IIRC.
Inns mouth
19-12-2005, 04:55
The only country with a king with direct political influence (apart from Thailand, Tonga, Bhutan, Qatar, Jordan, Morocco, Nepal, Bahrain, Cambodia and Saudi Arabia).

See thats why im not very good at geography... and incase you were wondering i were refering only to the countries mentioned. i knew there were some other countries with a monarchy with direct power but i really hate looking stuff up unless its to annoy the crap out of someone, so i dident..

Meh i still sound stupid, oh well i can live with that.
Alasdair I Frosticus
19-12-2005, 04:59
Not sure about what year the statistics are from but why don't you use this site:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/mil_arm_for_per_cap

And Nauru is so pathetically powerless it doesn't even make the list.

Really, I don't know why we're even having this discussion - the winner is Nauru, people.

By a country mile.
Kaetoria
19-12-2005, 05:07
vanuatu. Who would come to their aide? The Vatican has so many other nations to help it and they have a National Guard.
Nadkor
19-12-2005, 05:09
Pitcairn Islands.

Population: 46.

Labour force: 15 able-bodied men (1/4 of whom have been arrested)

Defence is the responsibility of the UK, but really, if the PM wanted to do anything everybody would just laugh.
Aurenel
19-12-2005, 06:14
For those who said Vatican, think about it. The Pope lives there. It's the seat of Roman Catholisism. Few western countries would be able to sit idly by and watch it be invaded. If they had to handle it themselves they would be screwed, but all of Europe would rush in the help them, so would the rest of the roman catholic world.

They're one of the few countries that simply doesn't need a military because who would dare attack them? Plus, any invading army would fall over laughing as soon as they saw the swiss guard's uniforms ;)
The Archregimancy
19-12-2005, 06:19
Pitcairn Islands.

Population: 46.

Labour force: 15 able-bodied men (1/4 of whom have been arrested)

Defence is the responsibility of the UK, but really, if the PM wanted to do anything everybody would just laugh.


But the Pitcairn Islands aren't a nation, they're a territory of the UK. The poll clearly says 'least powerful nation', not 'least powerful nation, overseas territory, or dependency'.

Because if it was down to territories, I'd nominate Clipperton (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ip.html) instead of Nauru.
Teh_pantless_hero
19-12-2005, 06:23
Wasn't Moldavia the country being systematically taken over by that dastardly supervillian, the Hypnotist?
Maineiacs
19-12-2005, 06:25
Somalia. They're just now forming a government after years of civil war. For over a decade, they literally had no government.
Delator
19-12-2005, 09:35
I'm going to say Bhutan...

...yeah, it's the Switzerland of Asia geographically speaking, but their annual military budget is only $14 million dollars. :p
Anarchic Conceptions
19-12-2005, 10:41
Geez... why has no one stomped these retards yet?

You make it sound like no one's tried.

The country is less than 0.5 square km, for crying out loud. The definition of "least powerful" according to the original poster is the ease with which it could be taken over, remember. They would have nowhere near enough time to "rally the masses," so to speak, before they got their asses handed to them on a silver platter.

Because it isn't as if the Vatican City was built to withstand an attack now was it?

When I become dictator of the world, I'm going to glass that country a thousand times over.

Did it spill your drink? Or did you catch it looking at your bird?


Not to mention that every single guardsman is trained by the swiss military as an elite soldier. And by the way, they are the "real" security team. With automatic weapons and extemsive training. It's just that the guardsmen out in public don't have their sub-machine guns, so you don't really get to see that side of them...

I think the Vatican also has a modern security force without the ceremonial role.

Also, if war were declared, I'm sure the Pope could reform the Noble Guard and the Palatine Guard.

All you people who voted for the vatican are retarded. Not only are there about million swiss gaurds in the city (who, by the way, have training and skills comparable to that of the US's elite green berets), but the second anyone attacks the vatican , every country with a catholic population will retaliate.

In fact there are 4 officers, 23 NCOs, 70 halberdiers, 2 drummers and a chaplain,


I mean honestly. Think.

Hmm
Monkeypimp
19-12-2005, 12:12
Somalia. They're just now forming a government after years of civil war. For over a decade, they literally had no government.

Thats the problem though, they still have thousands of people roaming the country side with weapons, making them harder to take than some of the other countries listed..
Quagmus
19-12-2005, 12:28
They also have several lightly armed coastguard vessels, IIRC.
Which CRUSHED (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars) the british navy. :D Twice.
Cataduanes
19-12-2005, 12:56
I just want to see Nogova's declaration of independence :rolleyes:

Hm. I would have to say for this one...Djibouti, because I've never heard of anyone...living there.

Last i heard about Djibouti was that the French Foreign Legion maintains a garrison there to help the tiny nation defend its borders...
Turquoise Days
19-12-2005, 13:08
Top this. Population of like, 5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand
Or the official site (http://www.sealandgov.org/)
Jenrak
19-12-2005, 13:24
Top this. Population of like, 5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand
Or the official site (http://www.sealandgov.org/)

...Oh dear god.
Monkeypimp
19-12-2005, 13:27
Sealand had a POW for a while, which is more than a lot of countries.
The Squeaky Rat
19-12-2005, 13:29
Top this. Population of like, 5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand
Or the official site (http://www.sealandgov.org/)

As poiinted out earlier in this topic - the thing is a sea fort. Pretty well defensible...
Neu Leonstein
19-12-2005, 13:36
Top this. Population of like, 5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand
Or the official site (http://www.sealandgov.org/)
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/roflmao.gif

Following his repatriation, Achenbach established an "exile government" in Germany, in opposition to Roy Bates, assuming the title of "Chairman of the Privy Council". Upon Achenbach's resignation for health reasons in August 1989, the rebel government's "Minister for Economic Co-operation", Johannes Seiger, assumed control, with the position of "Prime Minister and Chairman of the Privy Council". Seiger continues to claim that he is Sealand's legitimate ruling authority.

You can't make up shit like this!
Monkeypimp
19-12-2005, 13:37
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/roflmao.gif



You can't make up shit like this!

The have the balls to fire warning shots at the British navy, too. I wouldn't fuck with them.
Neu Leonstein
19-12-2005, 13:38
As poiinted out earlier in this topic - the thing is a sea fort. Pretty well defensible...
Hey, Bates took it with a helicopter assault. A helicopter and a plank with a nail in it should do the trick.
Kanabia
19-12-2005, 13:53
Nauru. The Vatican has global political power, and all of the others on the poll actually have a military.
Argesia
19-12-2005, 14:16
Just to be picky (Gee, I hope it hasn't been addressed yet): the proper shortened name for the country (from the usual Republic of) is Moldova, not Moldavia.

And I don't know why you have them in your poll: they can kick the crap out of countries that aren't even on your poll, such as Malawi. I live next door to Moldova and sometimes break out in cold sweats just thinking about how one day it could all... go... wrong...