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So often debates, public policy efforts etc, are pushed by those with strong religious beliefs...that they would say are because that's what "god" wants...his commandments.

Well, "god" has issued a lot of commands - and there are ten very famous ones that seem to get bypassed often when having to deal with issues like gay marriage and other "sinful" actions.

So - my question is this - how do you decide which of these ten you fight for, and which you ignore?

Why do Christians fight against gay rights, for prayer in school, while ignoring or at the very least failing to promote a good number of commands from their lord god?

I can't remember anyone - even Pat Robertson - suggesting that adultery be made illegal.

[Red commandments virtually ignored by religious so they can focus on other "priorities".]

1. I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

3. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.

4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5. Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long.
6. Thou shalt not kill.

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.

9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. [I've heard plenty of chuch gossip]
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor's.

The ten comandments technically were for the Jewish people and therefore under "old law" and Christians are supposed to be under the "new law" so I have no idea.

As far as what is most important it probably varies between people, just like everything else does.

Jesus said there is one most important comandment and it is to love others. That is what I try to do. It is important to me.

As far as the adultry thing, even lusting after someone whom you are not married to counts as adultry (or that is how some people interpret certian verses anyway) so it would be a difficult law to enforce. (since we aren't mind readers)

It's "in vain oath", not "in vain". Messed up translation.

"god"

If that is his real name.

It's "in vain oath", not "in vain". Messed up translation.

Such as "swearing to God".

Such as "swearing to God".
yeah.

It's like lying and using God as your accomplice, it's just not nice. ;)

Let me get this straight - that commandment means...

"I swear to god I've never lied" - violated the command, but...


"Jesus Christ! I stubbed my toe!" - doesn't?

Let me get this straight - that commandment means...

"I swear to god I've never lied" - violated the command, but...


"Jesus Christ! I stubbed my toe!" - doesn't?
depends on how you interpret the interpretation that you are reading. In my study though, yeah.

Let me get this straight - that commandment means...

"I swear to god I've never lied" - violated the command...

If you were lying about never lying, then yeah.

...but: "Jesus Christ! I stubbed my toe!" - doesn't?

While I am uncertain, I think this can be interpreted at "asking" for help, by calling out the lords name while in pain...or something.

Saying JC for no reason and using God as an accomplise is both wrong. And yes, we Christians are subject under the 10 Commandments.

I would also like to apologize for the hypocrites of our Faith. If they're sinning knowingly and saying that their Christian; bad. But if they're trying to overcome a sin and keep failing... well eh, gotta have some pity eh?

I'll probably get yelled at now... I swear, General is like the Ghetto of NationStates. If you're an outsider, you're shot.

I'll probably get yelled at now... I swear, General is like the Ghetto of NationStates. If you're an outsider, you're shot.

If you're unarmed, you get shot. Big difference.

Saying JC for no reason and using God as an accomplise is both wrong. And yes, we Christians are subject under the 10 Commandments.
what would be a good reason to say Jesus Christ?
and what do you mean "subject under"?

I'll probably get yelled at now... I swear, General is like the Ghetto of NationStates. If you're an outsider, you're shot.

Yeah!

And RP is like the gated community.

what would be a good reason to say Jesus Christ?
and what do you mean "subject under"?

I think he means that christians have to obey the ten commandments. It's part of being a christian.

(Now that I think about it, he's correct in respect of Anglicans, I remember them being read to us on a periodic basis.)

I'll probably get yelled at now... I swear, General is like the Ghetto of NationStates. If you're an outsider, you're shot.

How many times have you gone into a ghetto? How many times have you been shot? I'm truly fascinated by this remark, having been to quite a few ghettos and never having been shot, interestingly enough.

what would be a good reason to say Jesus Christ?
and what do you mean "subject under"?

Well if you wanna talk to him. Or if you're talkin' aboot him. Just out of no reason you know?

And subject under as in, we obey them. But no forced, willingly. You see, the closer a man gets to God the less he's going to sin on purpose. But he'll still sin, by accident. That's where Jesus comes in, he just kinda put that under the carpet and let's you into Heaven.

Yes I know it is complicated, and I don't get it much either. Not complainin' though. :x

See - I think Christians need to get back to basics - work on the big ten and leave the poor homosexuals alone.

See - I think Christians need to get back to basics - work on the big ten and leave the poor homosexuals alone.

I know where you're comin' from. Hypocrites who say they love God but are like you? Yeah I know what you mean.

I'm tryin', I mean granted I still think homosexuality is wrong (it's a given) and I probably have no scientific reason, but it's not my all consuming concern. Hell I could be gay, then you're just hangin' out with your buddies. But seriously, remember... we're not all perfect >_>

Hope I helped you.

Well if you wanna talk to him. Or if you're talkin' aboot him. Just out of no reason you know?
okay, but what if I stub my toe and am letting Jesus know (in case he missed it) J/K

And subject under as in, we obey them. But no forced, willingly. You see, the closer a man gets to God the less he's going to sin on purpose. But he'll still sin, by accident. That's where Jesus comes in, he just kinda put that under the carpet and let's you into Heaven.
I would reword it, but yeah. I just was making sure you weren't one of those "Jesus died for your sins, but if you break one of the ten commandments it doesn't count anymore" types.

Nah, I'm not a fundamentalist. I'm a born again. They mean well but it comes out wrong, can't be mad at them.