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Is it so WRONG? Today, I wore eyeliner to school, for the first time, and everyone said that eyeliner is for girls. And made fun of me - I didn't give a fuck. I'm not gay though. I'm just Goth...don't bother me about thinkin' I'm gay. But is eyeliner for guys and girls or just girls?
(BTW, Gothic guys can wear it too right?) Just need some opinions before I might wear it again.

Why do you care if people think you're gay, any more than you would be bothered by people thinking you're goth?

Wear what you like. If you break the rules, well, that's something different; but otherwise, why worry about what other people will think?

It makes me giggle that women shout feminist slogans and then make themselves look pretty with eyeliner for men.

Sorry, eyeliner on men makes me think of rent-boys.

Power to emo and goth kids!!!!

*drools*

Eyeliner+man=hot.

I don't see what the problem is. If you want to wear it, wear it; fuck the opinions of these other twats. It's your life.

I'd say it seems gay, but then I was part of the notoriously homophobic network gaming subculture at school. :p

I'm not sure who can "where" eyeliner but to me anyone can 'wear' it as long as they want to. It's their choice, let them be.

Billie Joe Armstrong doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

Amoebistan said it perfectly. Look at David Bowie, he was all about the make up in the Ziggy Stardust era and he wasn't gay or goth.

Eyeliner on guys looks hot. Tell me that Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean didn't make you drool.

Besides, when I was in highschool in the 80's all the goths and glam rockers wore eyeliner.

Where's the option for neither?

I'm a guy and I wear eyeliner. I wear it almost everyday. I've been doing so for more than year. I'm not gay, but I have been teased and ridculed for wearing my makeup, but most people around school have gotten used to me. Infact, many girls tend to like it on me!

I'm also "goth" (but I only refer to myself as "goth" for visual descriptive purposes). I think anyone, regardless of lifestyle or gender or sexuality can wear makeup should they choose too, don't let people get to you.

You forgot to add two more options to the poll. "Neither" and "No one should care".

eye liner is girly and call me weird but i like men to look like men

Eyeliner on guys? WTF?

If you're a Goth, sure. But plainclothes? No way.

eye liner is girly and call me weird but i like men to look like menOf course, it's just the fashion of the times. In ancient Egypt all men with any social status wore eyeliner (or a cruder form thereof).
In fact, it has been recorded that the builders of the pyramids went on strike once because they didn't get make up.

*drools*

Eyeliner+man=hot.


I second that....

eye liner is girly and call me weird but i like men to look like menI think it can depend on how it's worn. The Helghan Empire said he was a goth - I think it looks quite cool on goth males. And as Equus said, some actors and musicians have looked really well in it.

Having said that, I think it might be a wee bit odd to see a bloke in a business suit or something wearing it, but then again, it's up to him :)

Anyone can wear eyeliner. I personally only like it on girls though.

As with anything cosmetic, it really doesn't matter which gender wears it.

However, I think that alot of people only wear it because it's "omg punk!".

Billie Joe Armstrong doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

No, and Robert Smith has made a trademark through it.

Of course, it's just the fashion of the times. In ancient Egypt all men with any social status wore eyeliner (or a cruder form thereof).
In fact, it has been recorded that the builders of the pyramids went on strike once because they didn't get make up.but this isn't ancient egypt and boys look stupid with eyeliner on

but this isn't ancient egypt and boys look stupid with eyeliner onFor the moment, yes. But if for the next ten years nearly every boy does it, then those who don't will look stupid.
It's not girly per se, just by asociation. Just another thought pattern that can be broken, or not, I don't much care. Too much make up looks stupid on anyone.

For the moment, yes. But if for the next ten years nearly every boy does it, then those who don't will look stupid.

I suppose if every guy started jumping off cliffs without parachutes, you'd look stupid if you didn't. Great logic, there.

I suppose if every guy started jumping off cliffs without parachutes, you'd look stupid if you didn't. Great logic, there.

That's awesome :p

I suppose if every guy started jumping off cliffs without parachutes, you'd look stupid if you didn't. Great logic, there.Well, I never said there wasn't a difference between looking stupid and being stupid. But jumping of a cliff isn't fashion either. So it's a bit of a rediculous analogy.

personaly i like eye liner on guys.....its quite hot

Well, I never said there wasn't a difference between looking stupid and being stupid. But jumping of a cliff isn't fashion either. So it's a bit of a rediculous analogy.

What's even more ridiculous is the thought that people look stupid if they don't conform like braindead douchebags.

What's even more ridiculous is the thought that people look stupid if they don't conform like braindead douchebags.Heh, yeah. But most people are like cattle, where one goes others follow.
I'm not one for following the whims of fashion though, or those of spelling ;)

Non-conformism is the new conformism!

Non-conformism is the new conformism!

*gunshot*

'Do what you like, but pay for it'

You can do what you want, but remember there'll always be some sort of a price to pay for it - in this case, getting the piss taken out of you! :p

As look as you integrate your look, though, the 'teasing' shouldn't be too bad. Oh, and it'll help you get away with it if you happen to be good looking and slim - sad but true:rolleyes:

*gunshot*I don't think a gunshot will scare of all those so called non-conformists that just happen to all dress the same and act the same.

I don't think a gunshot will scare of all those so called non-conformists that just happen to all dress the same and act the same.
I think the gunshot was meant to be followed by the sound of a body hitting the ground.

I think the gunshot was meant to be followed by the sound of a body hitting the ground.

That would be mine...

...But I'm not quite dead.

Non-conformism is the new conformism!
Which is why the best way to be a non-conformist is to go 19th century. After donning my top hat and monocle and grabbing my cane, I am completely unique among the population of New York. With the exception of Mr Peanut, whom I just realized I have spent the past two years impersonating . . .
Damnation.

Which is why the best way to be a non-conformist is to go 19th century. After donning my top hat and monocle and grabbing my cane, I am completely unique among the population of New York. With the exception of Mr Peanut, whom I just realized I have spent the past two years impersonating . . .
Damnation.

Going out looking like you're a ZZ Top reject would be more interesting. ;)

I would like to encourage men to wear makeup.
If we're expected to look perfect and flawless and cover our faces up with enough paint to accomplish that then I don't see why the same shouldnt' be expected of men.

Although it would also work if people would stop expecting women to wear makeup...

Non-conformism is the new conformism!

It's almost impossible to be a true non-conformist, studies seem to indicate that we primarily learn by imitation. Therefore, non-conformism is dangerously unnatural.

Reductio ad absurdum

me, i like eyeliner on guys.
but then, i might not..be the one to judge men's sexiness.

[but it IS hot!]

Most guys look great in eyeliner.. in fact my friend will pin guys down to put eyeliner on them just so she can drool.

I think that if you started wearing really tight pants and lipstick and started dotting your i's with cutesy little hearts, that is your prerogative.

I won't stop you, but I also will walk down the wrong hallway to avoid you, and I will laugh when you get beat up in the parking lot after school.

But as I said, that's your prerogative.

(BTW, Gothic guys can wear it too right?)

This I find hilarious. I thought people went Goth because they didn't want to "conform" to everyone elses' "norms", instead they make their own :D

Although it would also work if people would stop expecting women to wear makeup...
I just hate women who wear too much makeup. Too much makeup on a girl makes her look like whore or a slut. Not my type. Ever.

Going out looking like you're a ZZ Top reject would be more interesting. ;)
I'm actually going to revert to my "bum" look now. I was so positive that I was being bizarre and unique, and then I read the description and realize that I've been dressing like fucking Mr Peanut. What the Hell, is there no safe haven from this madness?

Most guys look great in eyeliner.. in fact my friend will pin guys down to put eyeliner on them just so she can drool.Well, I might consider it if it's for a good cause (i.e. making women drool over me)
But certainly not in general, in public. :rolleyes:
I'd sooner wear a kilt, that seems to work for some women as well.

This I find hilarious. I thought people went Goth because they didn't want to "conform" to everyone elses' "norms", instead they make their own :D
We do. Besides, gothic guys wearing eyeliner is unique and kinda makes them a bit of an individual it make's guys non-conformist. That's I wore it. I like to stand out, but not draw attention to myself...I failed.

We do. Besides, gothic guys wearing eyeliner is unique and kinda makes them a bit of an individual it make's guys non-conformist. That's I wore it. I like to stand out, but not draw attention to myself...I failed.

Stand out, yet not draw attention? Isn't that an oxymoron or something?

Is it so WRONG? Today, I wore eyeliner to school, for the first time, and everyone said that eyeliner is for girls. And made fun of me - I didn't give a fuck. I'm not gay though. I'm just Goth...don't bother me about thinkin' I'm gay. But is eyeliner for guys and girls or just girls?
(BTW, Gothic guys can wear it too right?) Just need some opinions before I might wear it again.
Ha ha, you're gay!

Personally, I cringe whenever I see guys' with eyeliner. Make-up is for girls and actors!

Nothing personal, of course...

Make-up is for girls and actors!And football players, but only if it's big smears of the stuff..

I'd sooner wear a kilt, that seems to work for some women as well.
It's not the kilt that is important, its what you (don't) wear under it.

I'd sooner wear a kilt, that seems to work for some women as well.

yes!
*wonders where the the pantyhose for men thread has gone to*

Well call me old fasioned, but I don't think eyeliner was meant for guys. Although if you want to explore your feminine side ok. (BTW about the goth discussion, goths aren't actually people being more individualistic, but morely a large group of people following the same fashion sense. I think of them sort of like the popular people, keeping up with what the new black is)

Well call me old fasioned, but I don't think eyeliner was meant for guys.I hate to drag old cows from the canal (heh..) But the ancient Egyptians seem to have used it mostly against the glare of the sun. It wasn't 'meant' to make you look pretty. It was on the other hand meant for men, and women, working outside.
Guess you're not that old fashioned ;)

i don't think 'joe normal' would wear eyeliner, but if you're into rock/goth and you feel like doing it, just go for it.
i have a (male) friend who wore it all the time at uni. some pricks made fun of him etc, but i think the quote in my sig aptly covers what i think of them! :D
(this one: clicky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9876993&postcount=59))

Is it so WRONG? Today, I wore eyeliner to school, for the first time, and everyone said that eyeliner is for girls. And made fun of me - I didn't give a fuck. I'm not gay though. I'm just Goth...don't bother me about thinkin' I'm gay. But is eyeliner for guys and girls or just girls?
(BTW, Gothic guys can wear it too right?) Just need some opinions before I might wear it again.
yes goth guys can wear eyeliner, did you go liquid or pencil? (just curious)

my husband had to wear makeup for a play once, he looked very David Bowie, I kinda wished that he could wear makeup all the time:D

Most guys look great in eyeliner.. in fact my friend will pin guys down to put eyeliner on them just so she can drool.
hmm methinks i'll have to invest in some eyeliner then.... my lady friend likes my eyes as it is, so there'll be more of a good thing! *wink* :p

edit:
Anyone can wear eyeliner. I personally only like it on girls though.
nope. maybe not :p :(

I was considering being nonconformist... but then I realized that goths and punks are still conforming, just conforming to a different style. I was gonna wear a trenchcoat to school, but then realized that all the goths (I dislike anything goth) wear trenchcoats. So I decided to wear my British WWII greatcoat and uniform, to be truly nonconformist. Everyone thought that I was dressed as either a commie or a nazi. Made me sad for the state of education...

Now... eyeliner on guys. I wouldn't go for it; I don't need anymore people calling me gay. It's hard enough to find girlfriends without being a suspected gay.

im old.

really old

older than your mother

eyeliner on guys is hot. dont stop wearing it

the advice that used to be given to girls when makeup was considered a bit racy was "start out with a miminum"

if its just too much for your conservative class mates dont use so much. after a while they will be used to it and you can darken it up a bit more. pretty soon if you dont come into school looking like johnny depp they will think something is wrong with you.

yes goth guys can wear eyeliner, did you go liquid or pencil? (just curious)

my husband had to wear makeup for a play once, he looked very David Bowie, I kinda wished that he could wear makeup all the time:D
I wear liquid eyeliner - Evening Black is the color.

Anyone can wear eyeliner, but why would anyone want to? :confused:

I'd say it seems gay, but then I was part of the notoriously homophobic network gaming subculture at school. :p

I'd say it seems gay, and I was part of the not-so-overtly homosexual techno raving subculture at school. And heck, probably still am. (Mind you, the school in mentioned is CompSci uni, so I'm the only person in said subculture)

So there you go with the view from The Other Side ;P If you're goth, and feel woefully lacking self-expression, dress like Krusty the Klown for what I care, but yes, most people think the outfit looks ridiculous, a lot of those people will ridicule you for it, and you have to bear that. People won't stop thinking Goth looks funny just because it hurts your feelings.

Anyone can wear eyeliner, but why would anyone want to? :confused:

It makes the pupils appear to be dilated, which is a natural reaction when attracted to someone.

As for the question at hand, I'd say no, unless a goth or rocker.

If we're expected to look perfect and flawless and cover our faces up with enough paint to accomplish that then I don't see why the same shouldnt' be expected of men.

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I know why. Men look silly with makeup, that's why. ;)
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Is it so WRONG? Today, I wore eyeliner to school, for the first time, and everyone said that eyeliner is for girls. And made fun of me - I didn't give a fuck. I'm not gay though. I'm just Goth...don't bother me about thinkin' I'm gay. But is eyeliner for guys and girls or just girls?
(BTW, Gothic guys can wear it too right?) Just need some opinions before I might wear it again.

Entertainers wear it all the time. ;)

I never wore eyeliner until I saw guys in it—I'm a girl. (I preferred the alien-look, accentuating the area between the eyelid and the eyebrow with skin-coloured eyeshadow, a la Christina Ricci. I still do that though, it looks awesome.) If I were a boy I would sooooo wear eyeliner...most of my guy friends do.

I think it would be ok if you were goth or emo. and I've finnaly learned how to put on eyeliner with out stabing my self in the eye. w00t!

Is it so WRONG? Today, I wore eyeliner to school, for the first time, and everyone said that eyeliner is for girls. And made fun of me - I didn't give a fuck. I'm not gay though. I'm just Goth...don't bother me about thinkin' I'm gay. But is eyeliner for guys and girls or just girls?
( shrug ) Seems like pretty much of a non-issue to me. Why the hell would anyone care if you choose to wear eyeliner? I suspect it has to do with cultural norms and those who are unable to see beyond them.

I used to wear eyeliner just about everyday. If someone mouths off to you just remember before you're done kicking the piss out of them to remind them they just got beat-up by an 'eyeliner wearing faggot' or whatever they like to direct at you.

Eyeliner. Yay.

( shrug ) Seems like pretty much of a non-issue to me. Why the hell would anyone care if you choose to wear eyeliner? I suspect it has to do with cultural norms and those who are unable to see beyond them.
i think that you should wear eyeliner one day and then take a picture and post you familes reaction:D

i think that you should wear eyeliner one day and then take a picture and post you familes reaction:D
NOT! :p

( It clashes with my lipstick! ) :D

I'd say it seems gay *snip*

Sigh.

Eyeliner isn't gay. I'm gay and I don't wear makeup.

Eyeliners is worn by guys who go clubbing. I know lots of straight who wear light makeup when going clubbing.

Anyone can wear eyeliner, but why would anyone want to? :confused:

Obviously because it makes you look better. ;)

Go for it and fuck what other people think.

Go for it and fuck what other people think.

*agrees*

But, I still wouldn't wear it. Eyeliner would just make me look... Prissy.

Wear eyeliner if you're a bloke... but only up to about your mid-20s... beyond that, well, mutton dressed as lamb...

NOT! :p

( It clashes with my lipstick! ) :D
well you cant let your makeup clash so its good that you know your limitations:D

*agrees*

But, I still wouldn't wear it. Eyeliner would just make me look... Prissy.

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I said me, not Malcolm McDowell!

...On second thought...

Anyone can wear it, it's a question of whether it actually improves your looks.

Does it?

Who thinks so?

Do you trust their esthetic opinion?

Make up your own mind, and go with your gut instincts.

Eyeliner. Yay.

Couldn't have said it better myself :D

I was considering being nonconformist... but then I realized that goths and punks are still conforming, just conforming to a different style. I was gonna wear a trenchcoat to school, but then realized that all the goths (I dislike anything goth) wear trenchcoats. So I decided to wear my British WWII greatcoat and uniform, to be truly nonconformist. Everyone thought that I was dressed as either a commie or a nazi. Made me sad for the state of education...
Apathy on the subject of conformism v. nonconformism tends to make things considerably simpler. Just do what you feel like doing (aesthetically speaking). One day a few years ago I decided I wanted long hair, so I grew it out. I get an occasional playful jab, but nothing overtly hostile, as long as you're not going over the top (and if you're only doing what you actually want to be, you probably won't be) then you should be fine.

I have to say that greatcoats are rather awesome though.

Apathy on the subject of conformism v. nonconformism tends to make things considerably simpler. Just do what you feel like doing (aesthetically speaking). One day a few years ago I decided I wanted long hair, so I grew it out. I get an occasional playful jab, but nothing overtly hostile, as long as you're not going over the top (and if you're only doing what you actually want to be, you probably won't be) then you should be fine.


Finally. Someone else gets what I keep trying to tell people.

Is it so WRONG? Today, I wore eyeliner to school, for the first time, and everyone said that eyeliner is for girls. And made fun of me - I didn't give a fuck. I'm not gay though. I'm just Goth...don't bother me about thinkin' I'm gay. But is eyeliner for guys and girls or just girls?
(BTW, Gothic guys can wear it too right?) Just need some opinions before I might wear it again.

Not really wrong just diiferent. However not expecting to be mocked is naive.
If you can handle the bagging, do it. Goths tend to cop shit anyway.
I would probably bag you but just tell me to fuck off I can handle it:)

Sigh.

Eyeliner isn't gay. I'm gay and I don't wear makeup.

Eyeliners is worn by guys who go clubbing. I know lots of straight who wear light makeup when going clubbing.

as i'm in a good mood right now i won't tell you off but rather say it is kinda cute how you rebut one generalization/prejudice with another.

sigh.

it's not only the guys who go clubbing who wear eyeliner. i know lots of males (unfortunately i cannot provide data on their sexual orientation) who i know to not go clubbing/even resent it who wear eyeliner.

hah! :)

It is an effeminate practice in our culture (Early 21st Century Greater Anglo-Europa-Japanese, AKA the West, the First World, G8 and Friends, ...). Of course, if enough people did it for long enough it might become part of the culture, but I would just as soon not see the culture change unless there is some positive value in it.

However, you're free to dress as you like within reason (I would not consider eyeliner unreasonable in this context), unless you're a minor and your parents or school have a rule against it. Just be prepared to accept the consequence of some people not liking it and letting you know it.

Anyone CAN wear it. I just think you look stupid.:p

Meh, Girls are the ones who usually wear it and they usually look like stupid raccoons.

Put the stupid raccoon rings on a boy's face and you look even sillier.

Apathy on the subject of conformism v. nonconformism tends to make things considerably simpler. Just do what you feel like doing (aesthetically speaking). One day a few years ago I decided I wanted long hair, so I grew it out. I get an occasional playful jab, but nothing overtly hostile, as long as you're not going over the top (and if you're only doing what you actually want to be, you probably won't be) then you should be fine.

I have to say that greatcoats are rather awesome though.

Yes, Greatcoats do kickass. Though the curious thing is, ever since I got the German Policeman's coat, everyone's been making the strangest connections between Nazism and my Swiss military coat, which doesn't even have the red patch, german lettering, or anything distinctive about it except for "+" sign crosses on the buttons. Very strange, especially when considering how people are usually loathe to get near me.

well you cant let your makeup clash so its good that you know your limitations:D
Uh ... "limitations?" I'm unfamiliar with the term. :D

eye liner is girly and call me weird but i like men to look like men

I agree totally. If men want to wear eyeliner, well, thats fine. I don't understand why they would, but to me, dating a guy who will probably want to borrow my eyeliner, and who knows what else.. just doesn't sit right with me.

Meh, Girls are the ones who usually wear it and they usually look like stupid raccoons.

Put the stupid raccoon rings on a boy's face and you look even sillier.

ah, but many a boy looks like a stupid racoon without eyeliner.
maybe eyeliner could help, there?

Depends whether you can pull it off without looking stupid. It doesn't look good on me, but I chose both.

eye liner is girly and call me weird but i like men to look like men

And I like women who think like that.
I would call you weird, but not for this particular reason.

eye liner is girly and call me weird but i like men to look like men
You know that girls don't naturally come with eyeliner any more than men do, right?

I would like to encourage men to wear makeup.
If we're expected to look perfect and flawless and cover our faces up with enough paint to accomplish that then I don't see why the same shouldnt' be expected of men.

Although it would also work if people would stop expecting women to wear makeup...
I assume you boycott makeup then? Nobody actually forces you to wear it.

eye liner is girly and call me weird but i like men to look like men

Like.... Johnny Depp, (as Captain Jack Sparrow)...?

Is it so WRONG? Today, I wore eyeliner to school, for the first time, and everyone said that eyeliner is for girls. And made fun of me - I didn't give a fuck. I'm not gay though. I'm just Goth...don't bother me about thinkin' I'm gay. But is eyeliner for guys and girls or just girls?
(BTW, Gothic guys can wear it too right?) Just need some opinions before I might wear it again.

I believe I have my picture in the Player Info thread... in eyeliner...

Nobody told me it was 'girly'...

I believe I have my picture in the Player Info thread... in eyeliner...

Nobody told me it was 'girly'...
*cough* (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9876993&postcount=59) :)

I like guys in eyeliner. But then again I like pretty boys. I also like genderfucking... So yeah, not too much of a surprise.

My boyfriend looks cute in eyeliner. And for some reason he really likes wearing his hair in pigtails...

If you look like one of the Easterlings from LOTR then it's pretty badass, but the armor and weapons probably contribute to that.

*cough* (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9876993&postcount=59) :)

Ah... that post was one of the best investments I ever made.... :)

Is it so WRONG? Today, I wore eyeliner to school, for the first time, and everyone said that eyeliner is for girls. And made fun of me - I didn't give a fuck. I'm not gay though. I'm just Goth...don't bother me about thinkin' I'm gay. But is eyeliner for guys and girls or just girls?
(BTW, Gothic guys can wear it too right?) Just need some opinions before I might wear it again.

IMHO, anyone who wants to wear it can wear it, but I have personal tastes that force me to judge how well it is applied.

For instance, if a man or woman puts so much eye makeup on that they look like a slit-eyed raccoon, then it's just wrong. But, everyone has their own tastes in fashion, so go out there and paint yourself up!

Besides, isn't being Goth all about making some kind of statement? You should be proud of your makeup.

For instance, if a man or woman puts so much eye makeup on that they look like a slit-eyed raccoon, then it's just wrong.Unless of course that's what they're going for (looking like a raccoon). Some people can probably get away with it, in some situations.. (Haloween, maybe ;) )

Billie Joe Armstrong doesn't seem to have a problem with it.


He doesn't have a problem with putting out crappy music either.

It's not about how 'gay' or how 'goth' dudes are. It just depends on the dude wearing it, and how well said dude can apply it. That goes for dudettes, too. Like wearing a midriff-showing shirt. Don't do it if your gut hangs out over your pants. Therefore, if you look good in eyeliner/know how to put it on right, go for it, if not, then please have a little courtesy! No one likes banana-theivin' 'coons. I'm a dudette, and I don't like to wear eyeliner because it makes my 'computer tan' even more obvious. (:

I would like to encourage men to wear makeup.
If we're expected to look perfect and flawless and cover our faces up with enough paint to accomplish that then I don't see why the same shouldnt' be expected of men.

Although it would also work if people would stop expecting women to wear makeup...
i don't expect women to wear makeup. in fact, i find women who wear more than just a little makeup to be unattractive. it even bugs me when my gf put's on extra makeup for some occasion, although eyeliner and maybe some lipstick/gloss is nice.

Men wore makeup before women did I thought. Just tell those homophobes that and tell them that they are girlish for not wearing makeup as it is a manly affair.

Then ask them what it would matter to them if you were gay or not... ask if they are interested in you or something and say that you aren't available.

... Don't do it if your gut hangs out over your pants. ... (:

My friend calls people who do that "muffin tops" :D

I'm seriously missing a "Neither" option here! :rolleyes:
Generally, it already looks really awful on girls, and on guys it's just way past gross! :eek:
So if you're going down that route, be sure to buy yourself a red lipstick and a pink tutu to go with the eyeliner! Don't do things by halves! :D

It's really glaringly obvious that men who wear eyeliner are desperate for some type of attention, and besides that it's disgusting on men

EDIT: It's pretty bad on women too, but at least society expects them to

I'm seriously missing a "Neither" option here! :rolleyes:
Generally, it already looks really awful on girls, and on guys it's just way past gross! :eek:
So if you're going down that route, be sure to buy yourself a red lipstick and a pink tutu to go with the eyeliner! Don't do things by halves! :D

*giggle* I agree... although I was thinking more along the lines of some ears and a tail, to go with the raccoon eyes.

If I wear makeup, my goal is to make nobody realise I'm wearing it. I think most women look like they took a makeup gun (a la Homer Simpson) and squirted their face on in the morning. Gaudy, overdone, and just generally garish and ugly. Specially the eyes.

*giggle* I agree... although I was thinking more along the lines of some ears and a tail, to go with the raccoon eyes.

If I wear makeup, my goal is to make nobody realise I'm wearing it. I think most women look like they took a makeup gun (a la Homer Simpson) and squirted their face on in the morning. Gaudy, overdone, and just generally garish and ugly. Specially the eyes.
Ah, a reasonale member of the female species! http://assets.jolt.co.uk/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
Something you don't see every day, sadly :(

Wear eyeliner if you're a bloke... but only up to about your mid-20s... beyond that, well, mutton dressed as lamb...
What about Eddie Izzard on the Glorious tour?

What about Eddie Izzard on the Glorious tour?

That guy is so freakin funny.

Also it might be interesting to note that according to studies - most cross-dressers are heterosexual.

What is a Cross dresser?

An individual, usually heterosexual, who desires and needs to dress in the clothing of the opposite sex at different times throughout his or her life. This compulsive behavior generally starts young and the individual struggles alone for many years with this closeted need. Cross dressing is not a sickness, but represents a person who enjoys expressing another aspect of his personality and gains both emotional and physical pleasure from this transition. It is not a hobby, but a necessity and Cross dressing is for life. Cross-dressing is a compulsion, but we must not see it as a sickness. A good wife should tolerate it because the man has no choice, but it isn't too hard to tolerate because it's a gift. It is about fun and pleasure-and it's a necessity. The necessity of cross-dressing is frightening to the men and to their wives, and their wish to tame it, to characterize it as a preference and a gift, is understandable.

I wish he'd do it more, actually. I just went to see him in NY and he was wearing jeans and a boring shirt. He's much more color-coordinated in a dress.