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As the precursor of what is to come, the Senate Elections of 06 will either spell disaster or the biggest comeback in history for George Bush II and the GOP.

And the outlook of 06 will be the mirror of what is to come in 08 (unless something like a Second 9/11 occurs).

What are your predictions?


Mine:
06- Biggest loss of Seats in Congress for the GOP in history.
08- The GOP will run a die-hard Neo-Con who will lose out to the Hilary-Obama Democratic Ticket. The Neo-Cons in the GOP will begin to lose power in the party after this.

As the precursor of what is to come, the Senate Elections of 06 will either spell disaster or the biggest comeback in history for George Bush II and the GOP.

And the outlook of 06 will be the mirror of what is to come in 08 (unless something like a Second 9/11 occurs).

What are your predictions?


Mine:
06- Biggest loss of Seats in Congress for the GOP in history.
08- The GOP will run a die-hard Neo-Con who will lose out to the Hilary-Obama Democratic Ticket. The Neo-Cons in the GOP will begin to lose power in the party after this.
Hillary is not going to be the Democratic nominee. I wish people would stop wasting time talking about it. Warner-Obama is a much more likely ticket.

And I wouldn't put too much stock in what happens in 2006. Remember the 1994 mid-term elections, when the Republicans made major gains in Congress? And remember how badly Dole then thrashed Clinton in 1996 as a result? Oops, wait, didn't happen that way.

2008 is a long, long time away. I'm not making any firm predictions except the one I've already made: Hillary Clinton will not be the Democratic nominee.

:p

06--GOP picks up seats, unless Democrats can find a marketing GENIUS who can explain away all their "victory is impossible" quotes that the GOP will be running on ads non-stop.

08--way too far off to tell. But it won't be Hillary, McCain, Guiliani, or Jeb Bush.

Hillary is not going to be the Democratic nominee. I wish people would stop wasting time talking about it. Warner-Obama is a much more likely ticket.

And I wouldn't put too much stock in what happens in 2006. Remember the 1994 mid-term elections, when the Republicans made major gains in Congress? And remember how badly Dole then thrashed Clinton in 1996 as a result? Oops, wait, didn't happen that way.

2008 is a long, long time away. I'm not making any firm predictions except the one I've already made: Hillary Clinton will not be the Democratic nominee.

:p

I definitely think, from what I've seen thus far, that I could support a Warner/Obama ticket. I'm already sold on Obama, but I need to see more about/from Warner.

Clinton sucks. She's divisive and politically clumsy. I will be pissed if she is nominated. She carries too much baggage, not the least of which is the Conservative's irrational hate/fear of her.

06--GOP picks up seats, unless Democrats can find a marketing GENIUS who can explain away all their "victory is impossible" quotes that the GOP will be running on ads non-stop.

08--way too far off to tell. But it won't be Hillary, McCain, Guiliani, or Jeb Bush.

So, the Republicans MAKE the war all but unwinnable, but a Democrat pointing it out is the bad guy? Please.

Victory is not impossible. Victory is merely impossible with these clowns in charge.

Hillary is not going to be the Democratic nominee. I wish people would stop wasting time talking about it. Warner-Obama is a much more likely ticket.

And I wouldn't put too much stock in what happens in 2006. Remember the 1994 mid-term elections, when the Republicans made major gains in Congress? And remember how badly Dole then thrashed Clinton in 1996 as a result? Oops, wait, didn't happen that way.

2008 is a long, long time away. I'm not making any firm predictions except the one I've already made: Hillary Clinton will not be the Democratic nominee.

:p

Who's Warner?:confused:

So, the Republicans MAKE the war all but unwinnable, but a Democrat pointing it out is the bad guy? Please.

Victory is not impossible. Victory is merely impossible with these clowns in charge.

That's not what Howard Dean or John Murtha said. :shrug:

Unless of course there is another way to interpret "The idea that we are going to win this thing is just plain wrong."

That's not what Howard Dean or John Murtha said. :shrug:

Unless of course there is another way to interpret "The idea that we are going to win this thing is just plain wrong."

Murtha has been much more specific than that in his criticism of Bush's handling of the war. How about you try to accurately reflect what one of the most respected military minds in Congress has to say?

Howard Dean needs to shush. He's an able organizer though, and he should concentrate on that.

Who's Warner?:confused:
Former governor Mark Warner of Virginia. See this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=459443) for more details.

06- Biggest loss of Seats in Congress for the GOP in history.

Pretty spot on, in my opinion. I expect that most "republican bastions" will likely look a lot more 50-50 and that swing states will elect dems. Ironically, I think it is in blue states that Dems are at risk of losing seats (since the strongest cases against them will be brought out by the smear-machine).


08- The GOP will run a die-hard Neo-Con who will lose out to the Hilary-Obama Democratic Ticket. The Neo-Cons in the GOP will begin to lose power in the party after this.

I think you underestimate the power of the moderates in the GOP. I will be suprised if there is not a more moderate candidate in 08. If Hillary runs she will absolutely lose, because most of the left detests her and the right is even less fond of her.

I think you underestimate the power of the moderates in the GOP. I will be suprised if there is not a more moderate candidate in 08. If Hillary runs she will absolutely lose, because most of the left detests her and the right is even less fond of her.

Hillary only leads in the Dem polls because of name recognition and because unquestioning support is not a quality unique to Bush supporters.

2006: Dems gain in both houses. In the Senate, either a slim majority, or the GOP retains a 50-49-1 split. (the 1 independent, Jeffords of VT, usually votes with the Dems), in the House, the pull to with in 5 or 6 votes of the GOP.

2008: Democratic majority (barely) in both houses, and a moderate from one party or the other wins the White House. (someone like Warner or McCain or Guiliani)

No real predictions yet, though I like the position the Democrats find themselves in, especially in the Senate races. The Republicans haven't found major challengers for the seats where the Dems ought to be vulnerable, and the Dems are mounting strong challengers in places where they can pick up seats.

Here's an intriguing possibility of a prediction--sometime between now and 2008, there will be such an egregious case of vote fraud from electronic voting machines, either from a hacker or an operative, that confidence in the way we run elections in this country will be very much shaken.

Mine:
06- Biggest loss of Seats in Congress for the GOP in history.
08- The GOP will run a die-hard Neo-Con who will lose out to the Hilary-Obama Democratic Ticket. The Neo-Cons in the GOP will begin to lose power in the party after this.

Why so cautious..? C'mon now, get those hopes way, way, up.. lil higher now.. :D

Here's an intriguing possibility of a prediction--sometime between now and 2008, there will be such an egregious case of vote fraud from electronic voting machines, either from a hacker or an operative, that confidence in the way we run elections in this country will be very much shaken.
I wonder about that voting fraud prediction. We accepted it two times already, why make a big deal after the fact when its too late? Oh, wait, that's how politics works....

I doubt Hilary will be able to make it. I still think America is too unconsciously sexist to have a female President. The only thing she does have going for her is name recognition, and most people I know don't smile and say how great she is when they do hear her name. And Obama, while promising, he needs some more expierence, or we're going to see John Edwards "too young to know" ads all over again.

Leaders for the Dems? I don't know who. I hope they dig up someone good. And I wish them the best of luck in the Senate elections, but they're going to have to toughen up to beat the GOP.

I wonder about that voting fraud prediction. We accepted it two times already, why make a big deal after the fact when its too late? Oh, wait, that's how politics works....

I doubt Hilary will be able to make it. I still think America is too unconsciously sexist to have a female President. The only thing she does have going for her is name recognition, and most people I know don't smile and say how great she is when they do hear her name. And Obama, while promising, he needs some more expierence, or we're going to see John Edwards "too young to know" ads all over again.

Leaders for the Dems? I don't know who. I hope they dig up someone good. And I wish them the best of luck in the Senate elections, but they're going to have to toughen up to beat the GOP.
About the voting fraud--I'm talking about something irrefutable, like an enterprising hacker electing Homer Simpson to the US Senate.

As for Hillary, I see her as Joe Lieberman circa 2002--money and name and nowhere to go but down in the polls, and once you start that precipitous drop, it's hard to recover. She might be able to do it, but she's pissed off a lot of liberals with her war stance and her moves to the cultural right.

There will be a dark horse or two who will make a run--Feingold is my early favorite to shake up the race a bit, although if Montana governor Brian Schweitzer decides to take a shot, he could be trouble for the entrenched powers.

My humble predictions:

2006: Dems make small gains the house and senate. Not enough to even tie either of them though.

2008: McCain (he has been thinking about it) wins the presidency. GOP make small gains in the house and senate.