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Score #1 for Secularism!

Rotovia-
15-12-2005, 09:35
Most of you will know I'm a PC Secularist and proud of it! I make no apology for demanding religion stay out of schools, politics and public life in general. I don't say "God Bless You" and I'm veiwed as certified arsehole by those who know me.

And today I did a little dance when I the official City holiday banners of the past ten years disappeared in favour of "Happy Holidays". Suck on that Jesus!
Bryce Crusader States
15-12-2005, 09:38
Most of you will know I'm a PC Secularist and proud of it! I make no apology for demanding religion stay out of schools, politics and public life in general. I don't say "God Bless You" and I'm veiwed as certified arsehole by those who know me.

And today I did a little dance when I the official City holiday banners of the past ten years disappeared in favour of "Happy Holidays". Suck on that Jesus!

Merry Christmas!!!!

Edit: I'm Sorry I just had to say it.
Gartref
15-12-2005, 09:39
Most of you will know I'm a PC Secularist and proud of it! I make no apology for demanding religion stay out of schools, politics and public life in general. I don't say "God Bless You" and I'm veiwed as certified arsehole by those who know me.

And today I did a little dance when I the official City holiday banners of the past ten years disappeared in favour of "Happy Holidays". Suck on that Jesus!

So it is you who leads the "War on Christmas". Damn you.


I like shoes, too.
Rotovia-
15-12-2005, 09:41
So it is you who leads the "War on Christmas". Damn you.


I like shoes, too.
Damn straight, from my basement mostly.

I'm wearing Steve Madens right now :P
The Squeaky Rat
15-12-2005, 09:56
And today I did a little dance when I the official City holiday banners of the past ten years disappeared in favour of "Happy Holidays". Suck on that Jesus!

And your response in turn saddens me. What *I* would like is Christmas to become a feast for everyone, regardless of religon. But by adding aspects to it, not by stripping them away... When the Christians took it over they after all also allowed the Pagan tree, feast, present sharing and so on to continue being a part of the celebrations, even though those things had nothing to do with Christ...

So IMO:
"happy holidays because it should be all-inclusive" = good.
"happy holidays because it should not be Christian in any way" = bad.
Flaming Queermos
15-12-2005, 10:17
Whoopin' it up because a town goes with "happy holidays" instead of "merry christmas"? How do you manage to be so hardcore without cutting yourself on the 3dge dude? Seriously, this whole forum is in awe of how thoroughly you're sticking it to those mean old Xians, you crazy renegade of funk.
Schrandtopia
15-12-2005, 10:39
Most of you will know I'm a PC Secularist and proud of it! I make no apology for demanding religion stay out of schools, politics and public life in general. I don't say "God Bless You" and I'm veiwed as certified arsehole by those who know me.

And today I did a little dance when I the official City holiday banners of the past ten years disappeared in favour of "Happy Holidays". Suck on that Jesus!

if you're a secularist why do you encourage the acknowledging of the fact that religious holidays are comming? oh, wait, you just hate Christianity
Korrithor
15-12-2005, 11:14
if you're a secularist why do you encourage the acknowledging of the fact that religious holidays are comming? oh, wait, you just hate Christianity

Not Christianity per se. Understand that it is in fact religion in general that liberals despise, due to the fact that religion=value judgements, a big no-no to them. If they lived in an Islamic country they would celebrate every time a Happy Eid banner was taken down.
Compulsive Depression
15-12-2005, 11:29
if you're a secularist why do you encourage the acknowledging of the fact that religious holidays are comming? oh, wait, you just hate Christianity
Yep. We're more than happy to sacrifice a pig for Freya, celebrate Saturn, and worship the local sun-god(dess) for the rebirth of the sun on the Winter Solstice.
Not Christianity per se. Understand that it is in fact religion in general that liberals despise, due to the fact that religion=value judgements, a big no-no to them.
So, we prefer judgements based on rationality rather than what one's god says. Strange, from the tone it sounded like you were trying to be disparaging.
Zero Six Three
15-12-2005, 11:33
Admit it Rotovia-! Without the religious strife, the prejudice, the oppression, the silly hats and the geneocide your life would be empty and hollow!
Kefren
15-12-2005, 11:53
Most of you will know I'm a PC Secularist and proud of it! I make no apology for demanding religion stay out of schools, politics and public life in general. I don't say "God Bless You" and I'm veiwed as certified arsehole by those who know me.

And today I did a little dance when I the official City holiday banners of the past ten years disappeared in favour of "Happy Holidays". Suck on that Jesus!

Hell yea! Lets go burn some churches because they're in plain, public sight aswell!

While i don't like the over commercialising for christmas it's existance doesn't bother me, now christmas carrols, those are a whole other thing *grrr*
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 03:15
Whoopin' it up because a town goes with "happy holidays" instead of "merry christmas"? How do you manage to be so hardcore without cutting yourself on the 3dge dude? Seriously, this whole forum is in awe of how thoroughly you're sticking it to those mean old Xians, you crazy renegade of funk.
Skill
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 03:16
Admit it Rotovia-! Without the religious strife, the prejudice, the oppression, the silly hats and the geneocide your life would be empty and hollow!
No. I'd still have my war on people with poor fashion sense...
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 03:17
Hell yea! Lets go burn some churches because they're in plain, public sight aswell!
Many old Churchs make great private residences or nightclubs when properly renovated. It'd be a shame to just burn them down.
Neo Kervoskia
31-12-2005, 03:20
I would help you, Rotovia, but I'm busy with the War on Virginity.
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 03:28
I would help you, Rotovia, but I'm busy with the War on Virginity.
lol. On that note, the following statement must be said. (I've been waiting weeks for a good opportunity to use it): "Killing for peace is like fucking for virginity..."
Neo Kervoskia
31-12-2005, 03:30
lol. On that note, the following statement must be said. (I've been waiting weeks for a good opportunity to use it): "Killing for peace is like fucking for virginity..."
This war involves 100,000 hookers of the highest calirbe and with this Grand Army of Hedonism, we will march forth through every college campus and defeat the vile scum that is virginity.
Bodies Without Organs
31-12-2005, 03:31
When the Christians took it over they after all also allowed the Pagan tree, feast, present sharing and so on to continue being a part of the celebrations, even though those things had nothing to do with Christ...

I suppose asking for a single shred of evidence that the 'Pagan tree' was not actually a Christian invention would be too much to ask?
Bodies Without Organs
31-12-2005, 03:33
lol. On that note, the following statement must be said. (I've been waiting weeks for a good opportunity to use it): "Killing for peace is like fucking for virginity..."

The problem with this phrase is that fucking for virginity does in fact have a marked tendency to produce virgins.
Penetrobe
31-12-2005, 03:34
This war involves 100,000 hookers of the highest calirbe and with this Grand Army of Hedonism, we will march forth through every college campus and defeat the vile scum that is virginity.


Dude, trust me, college campuses are not where you need to direct the brunt of your army. At least, not when I was in college.


You need to lead an offensive at a Star Trek convention......or anywhere people do the dance of joy because a Christmas decoration came down.
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 03:35
I suppose asking for a single shred of evidence that the 'Pagan tree' was not actually a Christian invention would be too much to ask?
From me, yes. Namely because I really can't be arsed scouring through old essays to find the source. But apparently certain civilizations would decorate trees at the end of winter to remind them spring was comming and they would soon bare fruits.
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 03:36
The problem with this phrase is that fucking for virginity does in fact have a marked tendency to produce virgins.
Are you saying killing everyone doesn't have a marked tendency to produce peace? People can't fight if they're all dead...
Neo Kervoskia
31-12-2005, 03:37
Dude, trust me, college campuses are not where you need to direct the brunt of your army. At least, not when I was in college.


You need to lead an offensive at a Star Trek convention......or anywhere people do the dance of joy because a Christmas decoration came down.
My hookers are willing, but they're not that willing.
Penetrobe
31-12-2005, 03:44
My hookers are willing, but they're not that willing.

Then they just aren't dedicated enough. which makes me question their training.

Send them my way, I'll make sure they're prepared for the war.
Vladimir Illich
31-12-2005, 03:45
This war involves 100,000 hookers of the highest calirbe and with this Grand Army of Hedonism, we will march forth through every college campus and defeat the vile scum that is virginity.

How much do I have to pay for a tour of duty?
Neo Kervoskia
31-12-2005, 03:47
Then they just aren't dedicated enough. which makes me question their training.

Send them my way, I'll make sure they're prepared for the war.
I'll send three your way. Training and such.


Rotovia, you're my second in command in this war. I need a vet like you.
Penetrobe
31-12-2005, 03:49
I'll be their special drill instructor.
Man in Black
31-12-2005, 03:51
No. I'd still have my war on people with poor fashion sense...
I've seen pics of you. Your fightin yourself, my friend. :p
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 03:53
I'll send three your way. Training and such.


Rotovia, you're my second in command in this war. I need a vet like you.
At flowering underage girls...? I swer to God those girls had ID!
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 03:55
I've seen pics of you. Your fightin yourself, my friend. :p
You're an idiot. Normally I don't result to petty insults. But it was called for.

Each and everyone of my outfits are chosen with a dedication to fashion Nazism. Based on the latest trends in Brisbane and the best labels.

I'm sorry that those of us who actually grew up in the fashion industry don't appreciate the merits of flannel.
Vladimir Illich
31-12-2005, 03:58
At flowering underage girls...? I swer to God those girls had ID!

:D You only get in trouble if you deflower them. :p
Droskianishk
31-12-2005, 04:00
Not Christianity per se. Understand that it is in fact religion in general that liberals despise, due to the fact that religion=value judgements, a big no-no to them. If they lived in an Islamic country they would celebrate every time a Happy Eid banner was taken down.


In an Islamic country they would be shot :). Or stoned... stoning is still a respectable punishment in that part of the world. (Rocks not drugs, you crazy liberals... you and your damn.. makeout parties..)
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 04:04
:D You only get in trouble if you deflower them. :pGod bless loopholes! Especially those that get you into tight holes!

Bada tink! Thank you, thank you... I'll be here all night!
Lovely Boys
31-12-2005, 04:20
You're an idiot. Normally I don't result to petty insults. But it was called for.

Each and everyone of my outfits are chosen with a dedication to fashion Nazism. Based on the latest trends in Brisbane and the best labels.

I'm sorry that those of us who actually grew up in the fashion industry don't appreciate the merits of flannel.

Ewww, Flannel, you wouldn't catch me dead it it; I'm quite happy with my flower embroided pants and fitting Ben Sherman Mod-Style shirt :)
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 04:33
Ewww, Flannel, you wouldn't catch me dead it it; I'm quite happy with my flower embroided pants and fitting Ben Sherman Mod-Style shirt :)Honey, Mod went out with Po-Mo
Man in Black
31-12-2005, 04:36
You're an idiot. Normally I don't result to petty insults. But it was called for.

Each and everyone of my outfits are chosen with a dedication to fashion Nazism. Based on the latest trends in Brisbane and the best labels.

I'm sorry that those of us who actually grew up in the fashion industry don't appreciate the merits of flannel.
You spend all your money depending on whos name is written on your shirt, and I'M an idiot?

That's hilarious. Sheep.

Can you bah for me, mr. fancy pants?
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 04:41
You spend all your money depending on whos name is written on your shirt, and I'M an idiot?

That's hilarious. Sheep.

Can you bah for me, mr. fancy pants?
No. You should listen a bit more carefully. Right now there is a huge swell towards the re-emergence of Billabong. But I have an aversion to wearing surfwear away from the beach.

But good call on rehashing the same tired areguement that people who like fashion must clearly be sheep.

It couldn't just be we want to distance ourselves from plebian hordes now could it?
Man in Black
31-12-2005, 04:52
No. You should listen a bit more carefully. Right now there is a huge swell towards the re-emergence of Billabong. But I have an aversion to wearing surfwear away from the beach.

But good call on rehashing the same tired areguement that people who like fashion must clearly be sheep.

It couldn't just be we want to distance ourselves from plebian hordes now could it?
First off, if you want to be above us "commoners" you'd do well to learn to spell plebeian and argument. You know, being all edumacated and such.

Secondly, you're in the other thread calling people racists, and your in this one proclaiming to be part of a "better" class of people?

I smell hypocrisy.
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 05:22
First off, if you want to be above us "commoners" you'd do well to learn to spell plebeian and argument. You know, being all edumacated and such.Thankfully, I, a) know how to spell them and b) cannot really be arsed checking every post for typos. I never have and never will.

If this offends you, use the ignore option.


Secondly, you're in the other thread calling people racists, and your in this one proclaiming to be part of a "better" class of people?

I smell hypocrisy. I don't think I've ever claimed to not be elitist.

EDIT: In fact I think I frequently claim it.
Mt-Tau
31-12-2005, 05:26
snip

Eh, I'm secular. However, I am far from PC. :p
Man in Black
31-12-2005, 05:28
Thankfully, I, a) know how to spell them and b) cannot really be arsed checking every post for typos. I never have and never will.

If this offends you, use the ignore option.


I don't think I've ever claimed to not be elitist.

EDIT: In fact I think I frequently claim it.
Exactly. And that makes you just as bad a neo nazis who claim you are lesser due to skin tone.

You are not better than someone who wears flannel, or someone who wears hand me downs. Period.

And to even entertain the fact that your qualified to speak about racism, considering your ideologies, is laughable, at best.
Pebashco
31-12-2005, 05:41
[QUOTE=Rotovia-]Most of you will know I'm a PC Secularist and proud of it! I make no apology for demanding religion stay out of schools, politics and public life in general. I don't say "God Bless You" and I'm veiwed as certified arsehole by those who know me.

And today I did a little dance when I the official City holiday banners of the past ten years disappeared in favour of "Happy Holidays". Suck on that Jesus



Psalm 53:1 The fool says in his heart,
"There is no God."
Rotovia-
31-12-2005, 05:41
Exactly. And that makes you just as bad a neo nazis who claim you are lesser due to skin tone.

You are not better than someone who wears flannel, or someone who wears hand me downs. Period.

And to even entertain the fact that your qualified to speak about racism, considering your ideologies, is laughable, at best.
Let's pretend your very scattered brain is capable of separating topics and address them separately, mmmm k?

I really don't care what anyone else wears. With the obvious exception of certain situations, such as work, where uniformity is needed.

By the same token I love to wear designer clothes, eat good food and enjoy life, because I can. I won't apologise for this.

I give to charity, I feed the homeless every second week, if I have spare change I give to people who could use it better then me.

This isn't me being self righteous, this is me being honest.

Secondly, I do believe there is a serious problem of racism in today's society. Namely that it is creeping pack into popular culture.
Man in Black
31-12-2005, 05:53
Let's pretend your very scattered brain is capable of separating topics and address them separately, mmmm k?

I really don't care what anyone else wears. With the obvious exception of certain situations, such as work, where uniformity is needed.

By the same token I love to wear designer clothes, eat good food and enjoy life, because I can. I won't apologise for this.

I give to charity, I feed the homeless every second week, if I have spare change I give to people who could use it better then me.

This isn't me being self righteous, this is me being honest.

Secondly, I do believe there is a serious problem of racism in today's society. Namely that it is creeping pack into popular culture.
Let's pretend you can have a civil debate without acting like a 3 year old, mmmm k ?


And let's not pretend you wear the clothes for any other reason than the one you stated below, mmmm k?

It couldn't just be we want to distance ourselves from plebian hordes now could it?
Do whatever you want, slick. Just don't pretend to be tolerant. It isn't working. mmmm k?
Randomlittleisland
31-12-2005, 13:20
Psalm 53:1 The fool says in his heart,
"There is no God."

"The wise man says with his tongue, there is no God" -Book of Self-Righteous Sayings to Piss People Off.
Swilatia
31-12-2005, 14:34
I can't help you Rotovia. I am busy with the war on all things associated with a monotheistic religion.
Fass
31-12-2005, 14:42
You are not better than someone who wears flannel, or someone who wears hand me downs. Period.

And to even entertain the fact that your qualified to speak about racism, considering your ideologies, is laughable, at best.

A right-winger pretending to be on the side of the poor and anti-classist - now there is the truly laughable thing.
Heavenly Sex
31-12-2005, 14:44
Most of you will know I'm a PC Secularist and proud of it! I make no apology for demanding religion stay out of schools, politics and public life in general. I don't say "God Bless You" and I'm veiwed as certified arsehole by those who know me.

And today I did a little dance when I the official City holiday banners of the past ten years disappeared in favour of "Happy Holidays". Suck on that Jesus!
Three cheers for your city! :Dhttp://assets.jolt.co.uk/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
Although I don't give much for PC.

Hell yea! Lets go burn some churches because they're in plain, public sight aswell!
Nah... when properly renovated, they'll do fine as brothels! :D
Let's purify the religious filth with sex! :D

While i don't like the over commercialising for christmas it's existance doesn't bother me, now christmas carrols, those are a whole other thing *grrr*
I've simply switched from "Merry Christmas" to "Merry Xmas", and yes, the Xmas carols are really granting on my nerves either :rolleyes: