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How you think the world was created?

The United Sandwiches
14-12-2005, 21:46
I want to know if you think God did it or if you believe in evolution or the big bang or life from a meteorite. If it's possible to keep the slander to a minimum it would be greatly appreciated but sarcasm is by all means allowed.

I for one believe in the big bang but the life from a meteorite is becoming more and more believeable. They found that lichen can grow in relativly nothing. There was lichen growing on the outside of a space-craft while it was in space for a total of 4 months. If this is the case i think the big bang happened and then a meteorite hit the earth spreading a lichen residue over the earth. After of coarse the earth had cooled down from the big bang itself.
Iztatepopotla
14-12-2005, 21:49
The Cosmic Cow pooped the Universe after eating from the primigenous grass. People then sprang from the Cosmic Cow's milk after it had been in the sun for a while.
Pure Metal
14-12-2005, 21:52
I for one believe in the big bang but the life from a meteorite is becoming more and more believeable.
why is the word "but" needed in that sentence :confused:

personally i don't believe in god and i don't see how it would be possible for anything such as the universe to be "created" in such a way.

i "believe" in the big bang. after that i choose to believe the facts in the corresponding order: gravity makes the planet, chemical reactions create the atmosphere, meteorite brings primitive life or appropriate amino acids/proteins/hydrocarbons, abiogenesis follows on from there with organelles and sub-cellular organisms developing in that whole 'random coming-together of elements/chemicals in evaporated droplets of water' thing, then evolution.
end of story.
The Squeaky Rat
14-12-2005, 21:52
I want to know if you think God did it or if you believe in evolution or the big bang or life from a meteorite. If it's possible to keep the slander to a minimum it would be greatly appreciated but sarcasm is by all means allowed.

I do not see what "life from a meteorite" has to do with the creation of the world ...
Willamena
14-12-2005, 21:53
The world is both created by god and evolution (non-literally and literally, respectively).
Jurgencube
14-12-2005, 21:53
Earth? Big bang.

What created the Big bang, I have a better question what created God if nothing than I'll steal your answer for matter/life as well.
The United Sandwiches
14-12-2005, 21:53
why is the word "but" needed in that sentence :confused:

personally i don't believe in god and i don't see how it would be possible for anything such as the universe to be "created" in such a way.

i "believe" in the big bang. after that i choose to believe the facts in the corresponding order: gravity makes the planet, chemical reactions create the atmosphere, meteorite brings primitive life or appropriate amino acids/proteins/hydrocarbons, abiogenesis follows on from there with organelles and sub-cellular organisms developing in that whole 'random coming-together of elements/chemicals in evaporated droplets of water' thing, then evolution.
end of story.

that was supposed to be an and, sorry.
Pure Metal
14-12-2005, 21:54
that was supposed to be an and, sorry.
well thats alright then :) :p
Cluichstan
14-12-2005, 21:55
Chuck Norris willed it into existence.
Kamsaki
14-12-2005, 21:59
I'm generally in favour of expansion from a singularity and abiogenesis. That is, Big Bang and first-principle evolution. What caused that one can merely speculate, but it's entirely possible that time could be cyclic in nature and that things in the future can cause things in the past, and it's also entirely possible that some external influence could have given this universe a starting energy (though that then raises questions about the nature of this "external" to which we refer).

Then again, who's to say God needs to be the creator in order to exist?
Swilatia
14-12-2005, 21:59
There is no god, and the universe was nt created, and neither was the world. Also, I question the big bang theory, and the idea that the universe will come to an end. While our planet might cease to have life on it once, I believe that the universe is eternal.
Alexandria Quatriem
14-12-2005, 22:00
i believe God created the universe through something vary similar to the big bang. science can prove things to be true, for example that planets are formed by the gravitational pull of gases and such, but that doesn't mean God didn't do it.
Eutrusca
14-12-2005, 22:05
"How you think the world was created?"

Life from meteorites? Shades of Immanuel Vielkofsky! Groan.

I think the earth began as moderately sized condensed residue left in orbit when the sun coalesced. It gradually grew from accretion of other residue, meteorites and comets. There was a collision with a Mars-sized object, which gave birth the the moon. As it cooled, a steady rain of ice-comets deposited massive amounts of H2O, which formed oceans as the volcanic activity gradually decreased.

There. Better now? :)
New Granada
14-12-2005, 22:07
The only reasonable explanation seems to be dust/gas from the sun's formation.

I have no idea how life began, though i'm more inclined to think some natural process was involved than a "supernatural" one.
New Granada
14-12-2005, 22:08
i believe God created the universe through something vary similar to the big bang. science can prove things to be true, for example that planets are formed by the gravitational pull of gases and such, but that doesn't mean God didn't do it.


Indeed, it just means there's no good reason to believe "goddidit!"
Smunkeeville
14-12-2005, 22:10
I believe God created the world, now as to the exact details of what went down......I wasn't here yet so I don't know.
Cluichstan
14-12-2005, 22:11
I believe God created the world, now as to the exact details of what went down......I wasn't here yet so I don't know.

Right, and by "God" you, of course, mean Chuck Norris. :D
Iztatepopotla
14-12-2005, 22:12
Life from meteorites? Shades of Immanuel Vielkofsky! Groan.

Actually it's considered a serious theory, or hypothesis, although it doesn't really have anything to do with Velikovsky's.

Because some complex organic compounds have been found in interstellar gas clouds, it's hypothesised that meteorites and comets in the early history of the solar system could have carried them to Earth and kickstarted the process of life.

But not lichen, that would have made major, and I mean MAJOR, news.
Vespertilia
14-12-2005, 22:22
I, personally, believe in God AND think that Earth, Universe and life were created in the way the science explains.

It may be a bit shocking for those American protestant fundamentalists, but I am one of those devilish Mary-worshipping Catholics ^^
Kefren
14-12-2005, 22:27
I want to know if you think God did it or if you believe in evolution or the big bang or life from a meteorite. If it's possible to keep the slander to a minimum it would be greatly appreciated but sarcasm is by all means allowed.

I for one believe in the big bang but the life from a meteorite is becoming more and more believeable. They found that lichen can grow in relativly nothing. There was lichen growing on the outside of a space-craft while it was in space for a total of 4 months. If this is the case i think the big bang happened and then a meteorite hit the earth spreading a lichen residue over the earth. After of coarse the earth had cooled down from the big bang itself.

Where did the lichen residue on the meteor come from?

I believe in the big bang, i believe life originated through chemical/electrical reactions between monecules & whatnot on Earth.
I also believe life exists in other galaxies & planets.
I don't believe any of them can reach us & i don't believe someone/thing created us
Kefren
14-12-2005, 22:31
i believe God created the universe through something vary similar to the big bang. science can prove things to be true, for example that planets are formed by the gravitational pull of gases and such, but that doesn't mean God didn't do it.

The big bang was god's head exploding trying to figure out where he came from :p
Ifreann
14-12-2005, 22:34
Everyone knows it was the flying spaghetti monster.

Obviously.
Elicere
14-12-2005, 22:41
I want to know if you think God did it or if you believe in evolution or the big bang or life from a meteorite.

To answer the several questions you ask so succinctly one at a time:

the origin of the universe: I accept current prevailing theory, which is as I understand it 'Big Bang'. I don't know nearly enough about it to not accept it on any scientific basis, and see no reason to think that science in general is inadequate to describe the event.

the formation of our planet and solar system: see above. planetary accretion makes sense to me.

abiogenesis: no clue. and from what I gather, no one else really has one either, though scientists are studying the matter. again, I see no reason to think that science will prove inadequate to describe this event, and think it likely that they will eventually describe it quite nicely. that the first puzzle pieces could have been introduced from an extra-planetary source seems quite possible to me -- but that just changes the goal posts. In stead of abiogenesis on this planet, it's abiogenesis somewhere else. Still the same basic question.

the current diversity of life on earth: I accept evolution. I've studied it a bit more in depth then I have cosmology, and I find nothing inadequate in the theory, or in the science that supports it. And yet again..... I can find no reason to think that science is inadequate to the task of describing this phenomonon.

That's what I think.

What I believe is another kettle of fish entirely. Or perhaps I should say cauldron of fish. ;) But it boils down to 'The Goddess did it.'

Elicere.
Nuclear Industries
14-12-2005, 22:41
I believe the Big Bang theory. I also believe we evolved, slowly, over millions of years probably from the most basic of life forms, and we have the result of differant races today, to look at. I can't say I believe in "God", or that "God" created the universe/life. I believe some thing, that we cannot understand or comprehend, that some of us wish to call "God", created the universe. I don't believe in any kind of heavenly, religious, organized "God", but I do believe in a singular power, from which all life orginates. I doubt this power is sentient, in any regard. I think this power is the absolute essence of life, it, is life, in the most basic, unevolved, simplest manifestation. I don't think it's a single physical entity. The rest is just randomness and chance, a couple billion years of evolution, and here I am, writing about how I think the world was created.
Preebs
14-12-2005, 22:49
It was sneezed out by a being called the Great Green Arkleseizure.

Cookie for anyone who gets the reference. :D

But seriously, I haven't read enough to know what I think from a physics POV, but I am certain that there is a non-supernatural, scientific explanation. I know that evolution is perfectly possible without a higher being, so we just needto work backwards. :p