NationStates Jolt Archive

Which present day country would you want to lead right now to establish your empire to take over the world, and why would you pick that one.

Keep in mind:

The countrys army

The countrys population

The countrys technology

Which country you think would be the easiest to get ahold of

Which country would be the most eager to jump onto your ideas of intense Jingoism (intense nationalism for the lay person)

What area of the world would you try to take over first

Who would you try to ally yourself with

And what kind of government would you establish (considering you have just risen to the top of your country of choice)

If your country of choice is not on here, then please, feel free to use it anyway, you just wont be able to select it on the poll...remember, there are only 10 slots.

Malta. I'd mobilize the Knights of Malta and quickly slip into influence in every major national government. No one would see it coming.

Is this a disguised thread saying China is better militarily because of its army size and population? Have to go with the obvious answer though. The USA.

France.

No reason, really, other than the irony of it.

The EU when it becomes a nation :D

Otherwise, Germany ^^ :D

England. :D

Japan.. it's more fun to play as the underdog, and without nukes it'd be much more impressive..

The EU when it becomes a nation :D

Otherwise, Germany ^^ :D

Haha...knew you would;)

Haha...knew you would;)
:p Naturally ;) I would have gone further to say an alliance of the germanic nations led by Germany, but that is too far a stretch, so it had to be either Germany or the EU. Can I assume it was your choice too? :p

Canada... They'd have the element of surprise because no one would expect it and no one would put up a tight defense because they wouldn't believe it.

Saudi Arabia. Think about it. Just keep pumping Wahhabism into European mosques. Eventually after enough time goes by Europe's demographics will be at a point where an Islamist party can take control of the government. After that it's just a matter of yanking funding from welfare and throwing it into the military, a touch of Mosque into State, and a heaping helping of anti-Western-guilt-trip propaganda and PRESTO! Instant global power.

Saudi Arabia. Think about it. Just keep pumping Wahhabism into European mosques. Eventually after enough time goes by Europe's demographics will be at a point where an Islamist party can take control of the government. After that it's just a matter of yanking funding from welfare and throwing it into the military, a touch of Mosque into State, and a heaping helping of anti-Western-guilt-trip propaganda and PRESTO! Instant global power.
What a scary thought :(

i would start on some no name island in the pacific..... and would take over the world from there with the help of the Illuminati and the skull and bones and a few others

i would start on some no name island in the pacific..... and would take over the world from there with the help of the Illuminati and the skull and bones and a few others
Hmm just made me think of the Vatican ruling the world, with the Holy See as its capital...

Hmm just made me think of the Vatican ruling the world, with the Holy See as its capital...
they will help me of course

they will help me of course
Just be careful they don't end up disposing of you once you've served your... purposes...almost happened to Hitler ("puppet" of the von Papen) :p

Canada... They'd have the element of surprise because no one would expect it and no one would put up a tight defense because they wouldn't believe it.
You're joking, right? The element of surprise only goes so far; I couldn't see the Canadian army making it past North Dakota, even if they were on the march as we speak. I really also don't see our Cheif of Staff going "Well, I didn't see this coming, so let's just roll over and let them win."

:p Naturally ;) I would have gone further to say an alliance of the germanic nations led by Germany, but that is too far a stretch, so it had to be either Germany or the EU. Can I assume it was your choice too? :p

You could, however it would only be somewhat right.

I had to choose America because of my patriotism,lol. However, I was strongly considering Germany, and when I play games like civilization I almost always use Germany....so your sort of right. lol.

Just be careful they don't end up disposing of you once you've served your... purposes...almost happened to Hitler ("puppet" of the von Papen) :p

I would not let it happen, men of power are easely kept content by money and protection.

You're joking, right? The element of surprise only goes so far; I couldn't see the Canadian army making it past North Dakota, even if they were on the march as we speak. I really also don't see our Cheif of Staff going "Well, I didn't see this coming, so let's just roll over and let them win."
If Canada invaded North Dakota, I would let them keep it. Nort Dakota is the most pointless state in teh union.
Closely followed by Idaho and New Hampshire.

If Canada invaded North Dakota, I would let them keep it. Nort Dakota is the most pointless state in teh union.
Closely followed by Idaho and New Hampshire.

Except doesnt it have Mt. Rushmore?

Lets just airlift it to Colorado....then they could take North Dakota..deal?

You could, however it would only be somewhat right.

I had to choose America because of my patriotism,lol. However, I was strongly considering Germany, and when I play games like civilization I almost always use Germany....so your sort of right. lol.
Do you play Hearts of Iron (one or two) Great game, and I never find anyone who plays it except for the communists, and I am not very fond of those guys... They are teh mean:(

Except doesnt it have Mt. Rushmore?

Lets just airlift it to Colorado....then they could take North Dakota..deal?
South Dakota has Mt Rushmore:p

If Canada invaded North Dakota, I would let them keep it. Nort Dakota is the most pointless state in teh union.
Closely followed by Idaho and New Hampshire.
No way man, the Badlands kick ass!

Do you play Hearts of Iron (one or two) Great game, and I never find anyone who plays it except for the communists, and I am not very fond of those guys... They are teh mean:(

Never heard of it...but I'm sure it cant beat Civilization...I mean come on, the game is smurfin MADE for cool kids who want to take over the world.:p

South Dakota has Mt Rushmore:p

LOL..knew it was one of those states that no one cares about! :D

*Makes mental note*
" I am the worst American EVER"

If Canada invaded North Dakota, I would let them keep it. Nort Dakota is the most pointless state in teh union.
Closely followed by Idaho and New Hampshire.
*snaches Idaho back*
hey, i like potatoes, dont go trying to give them away:mad:

Yah civilization is cool, but HOI (http://www.heartsofiron2.com/) really kicks ass. You can play as any country during world war 2 (yes, even luxembourg) and you can have the war your way. Seeing Australia and Canada as provinces of Turkey all brings a smile to my face. Or the time USA was the leader of the Axis, and engulfed in a border war with Canada. That was cool to. Cant forget when Greece won the nuclear race...

If Canada invaded North Dakota, I would let them keep it. Nort Dakota is the most pointless state in teh union.
Closely followed by Idaho and New Hampshire.

I beg to differ (http://www.montana.edu/places/aglink/montana.jpg)

Some people really like montana (supresses snicker) so I left it off my list.

Some people really like montana (supresses snicker) so I left it off my list.
we could just let them have wyoming........

Yah civilization is cool, but HOI (http://www.heartsofiron2.com/) really kicks ass. You can play as any country during world war 2 (yes, even luxembourg) and you can have the war your way. Seeing Australia and Canada as provinces of Turkey all brings a smile to my face. Or the time USA was the leader of the Axis, and engulfed in a border war with Canada. That was cool to. Cant forget when Greece won the nuclear race...

Wow, that actually seems really cool, thanks bro.

Saudi arabia. Just embargo the world's oil market until oil is at $80 dollars a gallon, keep buying up controlling interest in the united states, purchase all foreign energy resources, then burn them all, plunging the world into a new dark age, which you can then conquer with ease.

Wow, that actually seems really cool, thanks bro.
No problem. It is a great game, it takes a little getting used to but it is fun. Unfortunatley the only forums where people talk about it are the HOI forums :(

No problem. It is a great game, it takes a little getting used to but it is fun. Unfortunatley the only forums where people talk about it are the HOI forums :(

Civilization still looks like it can kick its ass though. ;)

Civilization still looks like it can kick its ass though. ;)
Correction, Civilization does kick ass. However since im a ww2 buff, I am amazed by the level of detail in this game.

If Canada invaded North Dakota, I would let them keep it. Nort Dakota is the most pointless state in teh union.
Closely followed by Idaho and New Hampshire.

I wouldn't. why you may ask? well

1. i live in ND
2. the Point of ND is to hold Nukes, in fact we have so many nukes in ND that if we left the USA during the cold war we would have the 3rd most nukes in the world

and i would like to ask just why you think ND is so pointless?

I wouldn't. why you may ask? well

1. i live in ND
2. the Point of ND is to hold Nukes, in fact we have so many nukes in ND that if we left the USA during the cold war we would have the 3rd most nukes in the world

and i would like to ask just why you think ND is so pointless?
It is no longer the cold war.

America, for the following reasons:


The countrys army: Pretty good, and will fight anywhere, anytime if their commander in chief says to.

The countrys population: Large, yet docile and suprisingly naive.

The countrys technology: Pretty good. But could use upgrades. More taxes!!!

Easiest to get ahold of: Well the Bush family has done it twice, I rest my case.

Which country would be the most eager to jump onto your ideas of intense Jingoism (intense nationalism for the lay person): America, definitely. Again the Bush argument as evidence.

What area of the world would you try to take over first: Canada. Much easier than Iraq. Then Mexico. But I'd save the Chinese for last. They're tough sons of bitches (no offense intended to the sons or the bitches).

Who would you try to ally yourself with: England. Always England. Especially Tony Blair. So gullible. So easily purchased.

And what kind of government would you establish (considering you have just risen to the top of your country of choice): Hmmm. How 'bout an autocracy guised as democracy. It would save on having all of the forms reprinted.

The USA, for being a nation of many immigrants and decendants of immigrants from every nation in the world, I just read today that there 35.2 million foreign immigrants in the USA today about 12.10 percent of the population.

I once posted that the USA could have taken over Western Europe after World War II and made them U.S. states and govern them with European born Americans and European decendants as well as the rest of Europe
but did not do so.

Naturally this would have started a war with Russia at the time, which the USA could have one, a fellow poster posted that Russia could have won that war.

The millions of hispanic immigrants and descendants of immigrants who have intergrated into the USA, hispanics number about 38.8 million in the 2000 census.

The millions of black African Americans who number about 38.3 million in the 2000 census.

I have realized i have many posts on this thread but failed to mention the country. I picked America.

It is no longer the cold war.

we still have alot of nukes

Mexico. I would already have my spies everywhere in the US, so it would be easy to steal technical and political secrets. I'd use those to bootstrap my economy.

Next I would convince the US, Japanese and Europeans to send me lots of machine tools and money to start manufacturing there products in my country because of the ridiculously low labor costs. While this is going on, I am secretly hoarding vast amounts of US currency that is sent back to Mexico by my secret army of illegal day laborers.

When the time is right, I would go all Fascist and quickly build up the armed forces with all that cool manufacturing capability the G7 sent me, and all the technical information my secret army stole from the US. At that point I could quickly annex South America. They wouldn't mind because they want a strongman leader to challenge US hegemony, and frankly at this point I'd be a far more credibly choice than Venezula. The US will just put up with it, because otherwise, who is going to make their fancy "european" imports and do their gardening/laundry/child care/cooking.

After a few years consolidation, I would wreck the US economy, using my dollar hoard (note: I have actual dollars, not T-bills - silly china), and by cutting off all my cheap goodies. I'd also bring the secret army of day laborers home. Fat lazy americans, who, by now, are addicted to mexican labor for actual work will soon realize that advertising executives, marketing people, car salesmen and political science professors do not, in fact, do anything useful. The US will quickly capitulate my demands, and I shall be able to annex it too. (Getting the US armed forces as part of the deal, the only functioning part of the US). Canada can be my co-belligerent in my furture plans. They'll have no choice at that point really.

From that point it's fairly trivial. Everyone else has been gearing up to challenge the US. They'll have no idea how to handle a "super-power" Mexico. All the want to be superpowers will be thrown into economic chaos as the financial assets they have been accumulating over the years to gain leverage over the US will suddenly be null and void with the loss of US soveriegnty, and they will take years to recover from their local economic dislocations. I will use this window to take my newly renamed Mexican Armed Forces (north america division), to conquer africa and the middle east. And I'll get to do this without interference because I'll offer them some economic aid in return for not getting involved. (I might even throw a bone to the europeans and open a few factories there if the can keep their labor costs down, and match mexican efficiency).

Then Mexico will reign supreme.

Canada... They'd have the element of surprise because no one would expect it and no one would put up a tight defense because they wouldn't believe it.

See Canadian Bacon for documented proof :D

I don't need a nation, all I need is Chuck Norris.

But if I had to choose a nation I would choose China, it has the most potential if the Communist party would speed up reforms it could easily overpower the US economically in a decade and could dominate East Asia militarily within 15 years. It would have to take on Russia, but it couldn't touch Europe or America for a while. I would provoke muslim terrorists by invading South East Asian muslim countries and then start a war with the entire Muslim world, destroy it, and take its oil. I'd then move into Europe while hopefully keeping the US at bay with superior naval forces. By this time of course, the whole western world would be fighting against me, and my odds of winning would be very low, but I think it would be the best situation possible because only china, with it's vast human and natural resources, could afford a war against the world. The US doesn't have the people, and its currency might collapse if it attempted such a war.

Pick a nation no one has trouble with...Sweden.

You need to run an election campaign, with your own party, so that even if your term is over, your idea stays in power.

Then you begin to be nice to everyone. You need to be really diplomatic (Bismarck-style), not get too attached to anyone, and still try and become more and more popular.

Then you won't be attacked, and when the right time comes, you found some sort of world government scheme, and everyone's gonna love it because they love you.

Might take about 200 years, but it's probably going to work better than military force.

we still have alot of nukes
Just sitting there..

Mexico.

-snip-

Then Mexico will reign supreme.

Hey. Wait a minute. That stuff is all happening. :eek:



Pick a nation no one has trouble with...Sweden.

-snip-



Hey. Wait a minute... (Double :eek: )

Just sitting there..

we still ahve them though, and we have a fiar amount of Coal and a bit of Oil, but i think all stats have some Oil...but we do have coal not to mention that unlike most people think ND isn't all that cold

Pick a nation no one has trouble with...Sweden.

You need to run an election campaign, with your own party, so that even if your term is over, your idea stays in power.

Then you begin to be nice to everyone. You need to be really diplomatic (Bismarck-style), not get too attached to anyone, and still try and become more and more popular.

Then you won't be attacked, and when the right time comes, you found some sort of world government scheme, and everyone's gonna love it because they love you.

Might take about 200 years, but it's probably going to work better than military force.

*Cough*
EU
*Cough*

we still ahve them though, and we have a fiar amount of Coal and a bit of Oil, but i think all stats have some Oil...but we do have coal not to mention that unlike most people think ND isn't all that cold
Does Rhode Island have oil?

*Cough*
EU
*Cough*
http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/misc/shiftyeyes.gif

Hey. Wait a minute. That stuff is all happening. :eek:


It's only fair really. It is, after all, Mexico's turn.

it does not matter..... IMHO i have had the best idea for world domination so perpare your selves to be taken over with out knowing that you are :)

Does Rhode Island have oil?

i don't know, perhaps i should have said most states...but i do not know for sure what states have oil or not but i would think most states would have at least a little bit of oil

YE GADS! NOT BRAIN CONTROL


omfg post 300 alert
: :rolleyes: :sniper: :cool: :mp5: :p :gundge: ;) :fluffle: :D

i don't know, perhaps i should have said most states...but i do not know for sure what states have oil or not but i would think most states would have at least a little bit of oil
Reasonable statement.

Russia. They have good military industrial complex, and lots of natural resources (like enegry such as natural gas and oil) which are very needed to fight a war. Plus they seem rather patriotic. So I figure start pumping money back into that military complex, pump out the new line of equipment (t-90's su-34's s-47's ect) then just attack, with a large backing of oil and gas, and since the SCO and its related military pacts with China, you have some great backing and are in a good posistion to conquer huge swaths of land and poplation and resources before the big batle with the USA (which if history tells us right, wont join into the war until very late, and by then, I'd have most of the worlds oil and lots of people under my rule)

No-one would see it coming :D

That doesnt meen that they couldnt instantly crush them.

britain, cos we did it before

*Cough*
EU
*Cough*



YE GADS! NOT BRAIN CONTROL

(Homer Simpson voice) Mmmmm, brain control. Doh!

Cheaper than amassing/using weapons, and more fun. But requires a high degree of sophistication and an international shadow-network of evil geniuses.

(Rhymes with Aluminum+atti.)

If, by some odd twist of fate, I seized power in China, this is what probaly how things would occur.

12:00 am- China declares WWIII
12:00am- France surrenders to China
12:01 am- China nukes japan, and most asian countries
12:02 am- The US nukes all strongpoints in China, devastating the land
12:03 am- I sit in my royal palace, in the feedle position, as nukes fly in, all around me.
12:04 am- My compulsary conscripted army of 25 million are marching to europe
12:05 am- France refiles surrender, to make sure we heard them the first time.
12:06 am- I finally beat that level in Goldeneye: Rouge agent for the PS2, hooray! :D
12:07 am- My army has been obliterated by nukes, 24/25 million are dead.
12:08 am- I delete over 2,000 e-mails from france, all stating details on thier surrender.
12:09 am- A spec ops team kills me, just as I beat the game (DAmn)
12:10 am- We use all the rest of our nukes on the US, killing 70% of the population.
12:11 am- 2/3 of everyone on earth has died.
12:12 am- Everything sucks

As you can see, it probably would not work out.

Industrialize China, build up China's economy, let that economic build up carry into a new and completely revolutionary new military. And then follow the example of Mongols and blaze a trail across the globe, offering those who I enounter the option of surrendering or being completely obliterated.

Steps:
1-Declare war with Russia, sack Siberia. Continue sacking to Moscow.
2-Use goods and resources from conquering Russia to further bulk up the armies, especially with Russian auxillaries.
3-Invade North Korea. They're supposed to be our allies, so they'll never see it coming.
4-Invade South Korea, Japan, and India. Sack them. Consolidate. Offer US the Olive Branch. Peace of we call in your debts to China and India.
5-Push from Russia and India through the Middle-East, securing key oil reserves. Consolidate. Continue to offer US the Olive Branch, if previous offers unsuccessful. Have now conquered the largest empire of all time.
6-Push from Russia and the Middle-East through Turkey into the Balkans and into Finnland and Poland until they reach the Atlantic Ocean. Consolidate.
7-Begin abolishing local writen languages in favor of a universal writen language, abolish local currancies in favor of a universal currency. Build great works through out the Olde World.
8-Invade Northern Africa and push until they speak Afrikaans. Consolidate, continue earlier empire building, unification, and great works.
9-Convince the US and the Americas that it would be better to just agree with me and get along, while secretly funding guerillas in South America and building the largest invasion fleet ever seen. Convince South-East Asia and the continent of Australia to join the empire. Sack Great Britain, Ireland.
10-Guerillas overthrow a US-back government in South America, use the US's response of crushing it as an excuse to launch the invasion fleet and 'intervene' on behalf of the new government. US sends in their better units, leading to declarations of war all around. Sack South America. Consolidate. Unify.
11-Invade Central and North America, from South America and Siberia. Unify the American continents. Consolidate. Unify.
12-Declare an end to war and the beginning of the Pax China. Once more, the Central Kingdom will reign supreme as the center of the earth's civilization. Declare the creation of a national council made up of representatives from all the major ethno-geo-political entities from all over the world. Disarm the auxillaries. Create the motto: "All Under Heaven." Hawai'i, the last bastion of resistance, is stricken from all history books, after the islands are quietly nuked during a 'training excersize'. Pour billions of dollars into the arts and education, begin programs to end hunger and poverty. Finish unification programs, which end religious persecution, bring about a global currency, and a global writing system.
13-Expand beyond the atmosphere of the earth....

Of course, that's all a long-shot. And even if it lasted only a generation or two, it would have consequences for centuries or millenia.

who needs to use a county to take over the world when one has a computer?

The U.S.A. seems to contain the least critical people and therefore the most easily munipulated. Plus U.S.A. has all this cool ninja stealth technology.

Plus U.S.A. has all this cool ninja stealth technology.
So does everyone else these days. The Americans just paint their planes black - in fact the silhouettes of pretty much all modern planes are approaching "stealth", and full-on stealth projects are in development everywhere, from France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Neuron) to China (http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/jxx.asp).
And you might be interested to know that the Germans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229) actually invented Stealth technology...
The majority of the Ho-229's skin was a carbon-impregnated plywood, which would absorb radar waves. This, along with its shape, would've made the Ho-229 invisible to the crude radar of the day. So it should be given credit for being the first true "Stealth Fighter". The US military initiated "Operation Paperclip" which was an effort by the U.S. Army in the last weeks of the war to capture as much advanced German weapons research as possible, and also to deny that research to advancing Russian troops. A Horton glider and the Ho-229 number V2 were secured and sent to Northrop Aviation in the United States for evaluation, who much later used a flying wing design for the B-2 "Spirit" stealth bomber.

I'd use Fiji, because it would be funny as hell if I actually pulled it off. :D

Kiribati is the obvious choice. Or maybe Tahiti.

First thing of course is to tack a couple of huge propellers onto the island. This way, no-one will know where it is. Next thing would be to attach some sort of anti-gravity device so I can terrorise countries from the air, dropping exploding coconuts and exciting the survivors with suggestive dancing from my specially-trained crack squad of exotic beautiful dusky maidens.

Final piece-de-resistance would be an airtight dome and space-travel, with giant coconutslaunched from beyond the moon. Using the moon's gravity for a slingshot effect, these death coconuts will rain from the sky at 22 000 mph, causing utter havoc and chaos.

All will fall before me!

Switzerland. Because of their excellent history of neutrality...wait...shit. :p

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Good plan, but invading Russia?!? That hasn't worked out too well in the past. Prepare your troops for the winter (it's not too difficult of a concept-- Russia=cold, Russian winter=cold enough to freeze hell). Also I think you disarm one stage too soon. You will face much opposition with your great unification.

I'd start my meglomaniacal plans in Acme's research labs with the help of two mutated lab mice. Frankly, I'd have no problem just being a puppet government for them and letting them do all the real work. Narf.

Id have to go with russia on this one since its military is domant and the moles are on a global scale, the ones we call sleepers...hhaha also read something about Europe as a nation, that would be the joke of the new millenium, talk about psycopathic civilians, they actauly believe that they belong to something when in actuall fact they server the better half the capatilists.....

Wake up Eu's your living in a nightmare and your enjoying the dosile life peace and harmanoy, you all should be asking when is it going to be our turn again...lets not forget history repeats itself..!!!

Wake up Eu's your living in a nightmare and your enjoying the dosile life peace and harmanoy, you all should be asking when is it going to be our turn again...lets not forget history repeats itself..!!!
You might have to explain this one.

Australia,

We'd despatch Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin to talk to the animals and send them on Kamikaze missions all over the world.

What people don't understand is that Koalas are the most dangerous animals in the world. They are highly flammable. There's nothing worse than a flare of Koalas coming straight at you.

Redback, funnelweb, blue ringed octopus,
taipan, tigersnake and a box jelly fish,
big shark, just waiting for you to come swimming at Bondi Beach.

Come to Australia...you might accidently get killed.

Your life's under threat
Have you been bitten yet,
You've only got 30 seconds left,
before a massive coronary breakdown.

Come to Australia you might accidently get killed.

(Song courtesy of the scared weird little guys)

Iceland.

300 000 citizens could easily be outvoted by a communist/socialist exodus. A communist immigrant government would be officially declared, native Icelanders would be given the chance to move to Greenland.

Make immigration to Iceland illegal.

Next stage, pacific islands with low populations, then New Zealand. Natives always given the chance to move to Greenland.

Unify the island empire. Meanwhile, ally to China.

Annex Madagascar.

Annex Sri Lanka.

Annex Mauritius.

Admittedly, I haven't thought past here yet. That would be one cool empire though...