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When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?

today

I don't remember; possibly never. and I count myself lucky.

Almost daily, to some extent. Its self imposed though and I always get over it.
The winter and cold dont help me any.

Cabra-feel free to tg anytime, if you think it will help. ;)

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?

I've felt like this for years.

Err most of the time? I get wild mood swings though, so its balanced out by when I feel particularly high spirited.

Almost daily, to some extent. Its self imposed though and I always get over it.
The winter and cold dont help me any.

Cabra-feel free to tg anytime, if you think it will help. ;)

Thanks, hon. I really appreciate it :fluffle:

It'll pass, as always. I guess it's just that I can only keep happy for so long before all gets dark again and I have to bite my way out again

Thanks, hon. I really appreciate it :fluffle:

It'll pass, as always. I guess it's just that I can only keep happy for so long before all gets dark again and I have to bite my way out again I'm going to do what I normally don't and send a :fluffle: your way. ;)

I've felt like this for years.

Godammit me too!

Most of the time...

Sigh, I guess my poor citizens will have to suffer the consequences of my depression...higher taxes and more public executions for them then. :rolleyes:

These past few days. Something's just been a downer. Not just for me, but for a lot of people I know. You'd think we'd all be happy with Christmas coming up.

Thankfully it was a while ago. I still have moments of unreasonable sadness, either with no cause or as an overreaction to something relatively small.

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?It's been a couple of years, though I've been there often enough over the years previous.

No, what I face now is 'futility.' As in "why bother, it's all going to fvckin' blow up in my face anyway." That's pretty harsh stuff, too.

Counselling helps - Not getting shrunk, but just a wise head who can listen and offer thoughtful suggestions from time to time. It makes life much better when you can just dump all the crap out of your brain and pick through it, casting some aside, polishing up a stay bit here and there, maybe reassembling a few things back in their proper order, and so on.

I still have problems getting started on things - it takes a huge effort of will to get moving on some projects, and others I simply hide from as long as I can, hoping they'll just go the fvck away. That, of course, never works, and the tension of having stuff looming over me, ovr-due and un-done only makes things worse.

Escapism doesn't help, either. I should know - I'm the king of escapism.

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?
1998. Then I got the lithium

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?

Today, unfortunately :(

@cabra: Hmm, this is the second thread of you with a subject that can be seen as negative (the other is the thread about stuff people regret). So this got me thinking. If there is something, just say so, or TM me. Even though you don't know me, but maybe that will make it even easier :)

These past few days. Something's just been a downer. Not just for me, but for a lot of people I know. You'd think we'd all be happy with Christmas coming up.

OMG same here for me and my friends. Somethng in the air or water maybe? :P

:fluffle: 's for everyone

at least we can be down together and know that (for most of us at least) it will get better as usual. ...the ebb and flow just happens...

I dont think I've ever felt all alone. My friends call me a pessimist, but I call myself a realist and can keep things in perspective. Like, my best friend hates me currently, but...bad example. umm, my boyfriend dumped me so now I can move on. I made a mistake, but it turns out for the better. Or maybe it's just because I have my religion to turn to. Blame god and move on with it.

The Christmas season always makes me mad because I have to pick out presents for everyone and spend my hard-earned money :-(

It's been a couple of years, though I've been there often enough over the years previous.

No, what I face now is 'futility.' As in "why bother, it's all going to fvckin' blow up in my face anyway." That's pretty harsh stuff, too.

Counselling helps - Not getting shrunk, but just a wise head who can listen and offer thoughtful suggestions from time to time. It makes life much better when you can just dump all the crap out of your brain and pick through it, casting some aside, polishing up a stay bit here and there, maybe reassembling a few things back in their proper order, and so on.

I still have problems getting started on things - it takes a huge effort of will to get moving on some projects, and others I simply hide from as long as I can, hoping they'll just go the fvck away. That, of course, never works, and the tension of having stuff looming over me, ovr-due and un-done only makes things worse.

Escapism doesn't help, either. I should know - I'm the king of escapism.
Hypnotherapy allegedly is an excellent form of reforming your personality and overcoming your weaknesses, albeit its rather straining on one's person and requires considerable commitment.

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?
The last time some emo kid tried to push his life onto me.

Godammit me too!

Welcome to the club.

Hypnotherapy allegedly is an excellent form of reforming your personality and overcoming your weaknesses, albeit its rather straining on one's person and requires considerable commitment.How does one go about investigating/pursuing hypnotherapy?

How does one go about investigating/pursuing hypnotherapy?
By getting in touch with a suitably qualified psychiatrist. I have never tried it, yet to my knowledge only professional psychiatrists are qualified to do it. It basically attempts to enter and clear up your subconscious, so it can be highly painful emotionally. Plus, the psychiatrist would have to be trustworthy, since he /she will be delving into your deepest secrets.

If you want information on it, I would advise you to seek authoritative books on the subject.

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?
today.
kinda - i remembered a certain someone and cheered up a bit :D


but i've been feeling like that for the last 3 years or so, but i have been better the last few months... so... yay! :)

About four days ago. I was totally bummed...

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?
2.5 seconds ago. No wait, it was 3 now.... :eek: That must be some kind of record for m- darn it, it happened again! :(

Seriously... I've had problems of apparently some kind of very severe depression for the last 2-3 months. It's situational (it's a long story involving severe disillusionment, an administrative dean, cockroaches, and Sibelius's Symphony #2 among other things), but I'm at least starting to get over it with the aid from medication, and NS General of course. ;)

...so it can be highly painful emotionally.That doesn't scare me much... I've gone 'into the black' enough times in recent years that emotional anguish is an old companion by now. Mostly what I fear would be a less-than-skilled practicioner. A really earnest but klutzy shrink could do unimaginable harm.


Hmmm...

Time to don my 'research hat...'

It's been a couple of years, though I've been there often enough over the years previous.

No, what I face now is 'futility.' As in "why bother, it's all going to fvckin' blow up in my face anyway." That's pretty harsh stuff, too.

Counselling helps - Not getting shrunk, but just a wise head who can listen and offer thoughtful suggestions from time to time. It makes life much better when you can just dump all the crap out of your brain and pick through it, casting some aside, polishing up a stay bit here and there, maybe reassembling a few things back in their proper order, and so on.

I still have problems getting started on things - it takes a huge effort of will to get moving on some projects, and others I simply hide from as long as I can, hoping they'll just go the fvck away. That, of course, never works, and the tension of having stuff looming over me, ovr-due and un-done only makes things worse.

Escapism doesn't help, either. I should know - I'm the king of escapism.
sounds a lot like myself - especially the futility and procrastination :(

i've escaped into star trek, frasier, the osbournes, marijuana and alcohol.... not to mention my own head and imagination. and none of it helps, really. as soon as you're back in the "real world" it all comes flooding back in :(


thankfully i have someone i can talk to about stuff to now - someone who cares and will listen, offer advice where she can, but mostly just let me rant and get it all out. it really does help so i would guess councelling would be a good bet (still want to get it myself - got a some recommendations from the doc but afraid to call any of them lol)
the great thing is i can and do do the same thing for her, and that makes it a million times better :fluffle:
(i love her for it, amongst many other things!)

things are getting better tho - stopping myself from thinking the things that used to get me down (a lot of it was just thinking about philosophy and nihilism etc), and stopping trying to be something i'm not...

...got a some recommendations from the doc but afraid to call any of them...Been there, done dat.

Git off yer butt and do it... It helps wonders. Meanwhile, so long as she's willing, be glad you've got your girl.

I read white text...

Many years ago, through all my teenage years...

Lived in my head most of the time, and it was a very dark place.

Got scared when the invisible eyes started staring at me from outside my bedroom window, but stayed down.

then, when I was 18, I got a girlfriend...;)

Psychologist at college advised me to get up off my butt and do something, anything different. Buy some shoes, change jobs, anything!

Felt better for a little while, then girlfriend kicked me to the curb.:(

Went back to being depressed. Added much alcohol, drank like a fish...:p

Later on, got happier again...wife makes me smile!:D

That doesn't scare me much... I've gone 'into the black' enough times in recent years that emotional anguish is an old companion by now. Mostly what I fear would be a less-than-skilled practicioner. A really earnest but klutzy shrink could do unimaginable harm.


Hmmm...

Time to don my 'research hat...'
Same here. I would advise, if you sought hypnotherapy, make sure you go to the very best. Much like plastic surgery, you get what you pay for. This is surgery of your psyche. Make sure those who are cutting it up know how to put it back together afterwards.

If you're depressed, I suggest you go to Despair.com (http://www.despair.com/) immediately, and check out the Demotivators today! :) (I find the "demotivational" posters hilarious)

Been there, done dat.

Git off yer butt and do it... It helps wonders. Meanwhile, so long as she's willing, be glad you've got your girl.

I read white text...
i do intend to in the new year... it can be a new year's resolution, heh!
and i don't mind one bit. if it were something i did mind other people reading i'd have sent her an email instead :p

Many years ago, through all my teenage years...

Lived in my head most of the time, and it was a very dark place.

Got scared when the invisible eyes started staring at me from outside my bedroom window, but stayed down.

then, when I was 18, I got a girlfriend...;)

Psychologist at college advised me to get up off my butt and do something, anything different. Buy some shoes, change jobs, anything!

Felt better for a little while, then girlfriend kicked me to the curb.:(

Went back to being depressed. Added much alcohol, drank like a fish...:p

Later on, got happier again...wife makes me smile!:D
a happy ending woot! :fluffle:

though i am intrigued as to what these "invisible eyes" were :eek: :confused:

Make sure those who are cutting it up now how to put it back together afterwards.Word.

Thank you.

Word.

Thank you.
Damn, I spellt know wrongly :p Well you got the point anyway :) Its something I am seriously considering now, as living in depression and resorting to escapism is a lot more painful a life in my opinion than undergoing hypnotherapy.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=manly_suicide

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another good site (http://www.freewebs.com/understandingdepression/) :)

The day i moved from chicago to texas. A week after tho i had ppl to sit with and people I could consider friends. 8 months later I dont mind the move at all. People are nicer here. Im not often depressed.

Every about two weeks... :(

Today, unfortunately :(

@cabra: Hmm, this is the second thread of you with a subject that can be seen as negative (the other is the thread about stuff people regret). So this got me thinking. If there is something, just say so, or TM me. Even though you don't know me, but maybe that will make it even easier :)

In my reconing, it must be about the 10th negative thread I opened... approximately.

Thanks for the offer, but it'll pass. It always does.
It might sound sarcastic, but it's easier to know I'm not the only sad person in a world full of happy, joyful, rosy-cheeked NSers....

About 3 days ago.

It was befoe Thanksgiving, but then I found out there was a somewhat similiar fest here! :)

I cannot remember the last time I felt depressed... But I hope I am not the only one

In my reconing, it must be about the 10th negative thread I opened... approximately.

Thanks for the offer, but it'll pass. It always does.
It might sound sarcastic, but it's easier to know I'm not the only sad person in a world full of happy, joyful, rosy-cheeked NSers....
sorry you feel down CW :( :fluffle:
but don't worry its not sarcastic - helps to not be alone... there are more of us than you'd think ;)

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?
After watching all three disks of Neon Genesis: Evangelion. Not only was I the only one in the house at the time when it ended, but it didn't even have a proper ending dammit! Combine that with the way it completely strips away your belief in reality, and the way that it gets so depressing toward the end... Oh God, it's happening again...:(

Theres a big fucking difference between "Ive been having a bad day", or "Ive been kinda bummed lately", and Clinical Depression.

Clinical Depression a motherfucker.

Ive wallowed with it since early teens, and in my early 20's, was at one time or another, prescribed all the popular seratonin reuptake inhibitor-type drugs, with the exception of Proszac.

See, for those who dont really know, you really cant understand, when anyone compares it to a black hole.
Its the kinda thing that sucks any enjoyment out of life, almost entirely.
The more it becomes the normal way you tend to feel, the more "normal" it becomes.
Basically, you get trapped into feeling like utter shit, until you just stop caring about anything.
Love, money, your health, your family, even basic hygiene, doesnt seem important anymore, because everything seems so fucking bleak, and miserable.
You become locked into an emotional stasis, that becomes seemingly impossible to break.

But it isnt impossible.

I havent taken anything to help my depression in years, and while it doesnt prevent me from leading a fairly normal life, its going to be something I'll likely always have to deal with.

For me, it enabled me to truly find out wich freinds truly cared about me, and I spent as much time around them, as I could.
Making a real effort, everyday, to change, SOMETHING, for the positive, if I could. It neednt be anything dramatic. It could simply be making sure to wash your favorite shirt, so that you can wear it when you go out.

GET OUT OF THE HOUSE.
For me, inactivity, was the worst thing I could do.
If all you do is lie about and feel miserable, and wallow in self-pity....nothing good is happening.
You cant feel good, if nothing good happens to you.

Think.
Feel
Cry.
Dream
Hope...

and for fuck sake......laugh. Laughter is absolutely the most effective thing you can take.
Feeling miserable?
Rent a George Carlin DVD, and burn one...then try and be miserable while laughing hysterically.

All of these things seem to be required skills for coping with life"s crap.
/off soapbox.

After watching all three disks of Neon Genesis: Evangelion. Not only was I the only one in the house at the time when it ended, but it didn't even have a proper ending dammit! Combine that with the way it completely strips away your belief in reality, and the way that it gets so depressing toward the end... Oh God, it's happening again...:(
hehehe but then you did have rei to ogle at... that's gotta count for something good, no? ;)

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?25th of April to 9th of November.

Little more than a month ago...

...i've been to the lowest depths of it.


....but right now, I feel really, really good. It's amazing what something as simple as a week off work can do. :D

hehehe but then you did have rei to ogle at... that's gotta count for something good, no? ;)
True...But she's like, damaged goods man. Did you see her I am I sequence? Really scary.

-snip-
Yup. I didn't take drugs for my depression (not Thanksgiving, this was Clinical Depression), and I'm doing better. People just gotta get out there and do something about it, and don't wallow in self-pity. I'm actually not quite sure how I got it, or what I did...it just kind of happened that I didn't feel like living shit anymore after about a year or two of going out with friends and generally having a good time.

People are happy when you make others happy!

The more it becomes the normal way you tend to feel, the more "normal" it becomes.
Basically, you get trapped into feeling like utter shit, until you just stop caring about anything.
i also found that once its become your 'normal', getting better almost becomes scary. like if you were to tell a healthy person that their mental state was going to change in a big way, that how they normally feel would be gone and they'd be a 'whole new person again'... that is shit scary to me :eek:
fear of the unknown and all that.

i agree with getting out there and doing something. well, not necessarily doing anything but just find something/anything to care about and with which you can expend effort and energy. hell, even a collection of bannana stickers is better than sitting around wallowing in your own self pity.

stop yourself from going down the roads you know lead to dark places (in your head) too

this is why i posted this site (cos it tries to explain clinical depression to non-sufferers http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10092754&postcount=39), and most people really don't get it



sadly through this, when i "owned up" and let people know whats going on, i found out who my real freinds were... like 2 people... and now they don't even bother talking to me anymore :(
(well one of them does but thats cos she's magical :fluffle: )


edit: and for me, smoking pot and laughing at stuff didn't help. i thought it did but it just pushed the real feelings and problems under a hazy carpet. not worth it and not helpful in the long run (for me - other people might be different; cos then again i smoked from dawn to dusk :headbang: )

Yup. I didn't take drugs for my depression (not Thanksgiving, this was Clinical Depression), and I'm doing better. People just gotta get out there and do something about it, and don't wallow in self-pity. I'm actually not quite sure how I got it, or what I did...it just kind of happened that I didn't feel like living shit anymore after about a year or two of going out with friends and generally having a good time.

People are happy when you make others happy!


You know the funny thing is, that when I heard other people say thse kinds of things to me, I thought it was the most sappiest sounding bullshit, and in no way did it apply to me.
It did, I just think each person has to grip those ideals for themselves.

Sometimes, the drugs help take the edge off, but they dont fix any of your problems, they just make you deal with it easier.

i also found that once its become your 'normal', getting better almost becomes scary. like if you were to tell a healthy person that their mental state was going to change in a big way, that how they normally feel would be gone and they'd be a 'whole new person again'... that is shit scary to me :eek:
fear of the unknown and all that.

Yah, getting better is kinda scary.
For me, it was knowing that I WAS feeling better, but that it wouldnt take much to slide back.
I can see how easy it would be to become "gunshy" with life.
It was just something that was easy by comparison, to overcome.

i agree with getting out there and doing something. well, not necessarily doing anything but just find something/anything to care about and with which you can expend effort and energy. hell, even a collection of bannana stickers is better than sitting around wallowing in your own self pity.

You know what helped me?

I got a dog.

Receiving a face full of big, goofy dog slobber, tends to lighten your mood.
Well, for me anyway.

stop yourself from going down the roads you know lead to dark places (in your head) too

Damn right.

and laying off the death-metal, and occasionally putting something a bit lighter once in a while, doesnt hurt.



edit: and for me, smoking pot and laughing at stuff didn't help. i thought it did but it just pushed the real feelings and problems under a hazy carpet. not worth it and not helpful in the long run (for me - other people might be different; cos then again i smoked from dawn to dusk :headbang: )

Well, everything in moderation, bro.

and laying off the death-metal, and occasionally putting something a bit lighter once in a while, doesnt hurt.

Hahahaha...

Yeah, there's a reason my music collection is so damn schizophrenic...

isadly through this, when i "owned up" and let people know whats going on, i found out who my real freinds were... like 2 people... and now they don't even bother talking to me anymore
Real friends are hard to come by. I have two as well. Most people I call "friends" are merely very good acquaintances or just activity buddies. But, then again, I expect my friends to always be there for me when I'm down, and to give me support and stuff, like calling me out on a bad move in my love life. And I try to give the same in return, a solid, constant foundation of mutual understanding and advice someone can turn to when they need it. But that's really hard to do, when you think about it, and I falter quite often as well.

Receiving a face full of big, goofy dog slobber, tends to lighten your mood.
Well, for me anyway.
Agreed. *slurp!* :p

Hahahaha...

Yeah, there's a reason my music collection is so damn schizophrenic...


Heh, I was half-serious.

Listening to very dark music, especially in the middle of winter, always brings me down.










Oh..and rainy days and Mondays.

Last time I was REALLY depressed? Almost exactly three years ago, when I got dumped by my girlfriend and failed out of college in the same month...

...yeah, I was a real wreck until the following summer. I still get a little down in the dumps around Thanksgiving, but things have worked out well for me, both academically and relationship-wise.

Nowadays, I am generally an upbeat guy...although occasionally I'll just seal myself away in my room for a day...that still happens now and then, though I tend to think it's just a general pessimistic attitude towards humanity in general.

Now...high school, on the other hand...:eek: :p

Yah, getting better is kinda scary.
For me, it was knowing that I WAS feeling better, but that it wouldnt take much to slide back.



I know the feeling. I have felt a lot better for quite a while now, sometimes it took a bit of effort, sometimes it jaut was normal.
But it's always frightening how little it can take in the one moment when you're not paying attention to throw you back so far....

Real friends are hard to come by. I have two as well. Most people I call "friends" are merely very good acquaintances or just activity buddies. But, then again, I expect my friends to always be there for me when I'm down, and to give me support and stuff, like calling me out on a bad move in my love life. And I try to give the same in return, a solid, constant foundation of mutual understanding and advice someone can turn to when they need it. But that's really hard to do, when you think about it, and I falter quite often as well.

agreed - hard to come by. i never really had the kinds of friends like that - who'll help out and be there for me etc, but i didn't expect them to drop me like a wet fart when i go off the rails or whatever :mad:
especially sucky seeing how one of my flatmates was also quite depressed last year and i always kept him company when he was down, listened to all his rants, offered advice and shit... and now i'm ignored and even blocked off msn :rolleyes:
and i helped me other flatmate get through an abortion (that was fun)... now the olive branch is extended occasionally, granted, but only when they need/want it.

bah, i say, bah!! (why do i always pour out too much crap from my personal life on here? :p)


You know what helped me?

I got a dog.

Receiving a face full of big, goofy dog slobber, tends to lighten your mood.
Well, for me anyway.

*ponders getting a kitten*
big face full of hairball has got to lighten anyone's mood :p

Yah, getting better is kinda scary.
For me, it was knowing that I WAS feeling better, but that it wouldnt take much to slide back.

yeah know what you mean :(

Heh, I was half-serious.

Listening to very dark music, especially in the middle of winter, always brings me down.










Oh..and rainy days and Mondays.

Ironically, though, I find dark music, particularly if it's angry, can get me right out of a bad mood.

and i helped me other flatmate get through an abortion (that was fun)... now the olive branch is extended occasionally, granted, but only when they need/want it.

bah, i say, bah!! (why do i always pour out too much crap from my personal life on here? :p)


*ponders getting a kitten*
big face full of hairball has got to lighten anyone's mood :p


yeah know what you mean :(

Those people were not your friends.
They were using you for an emotional tampon.

Get the kitten.
Kittens rule.

Ironically, though, I find dark music, particularly if it's angry, can get me right out of a bad mood.
damn right. turn those frowns upside down into a face contorted by raging fury!! :mad: ;)


yeah, anger > misery cos at least you can do stuff when you're angry

*ponders getting a kitten*
big face full of hairball has got to lighten anyone's mood :p


I got a stuffed kitten, while she can't move on her own she doesn't require the spending of anymore money, and she'll always stay a kitten. :D

damn right. turn those frowns upside down into a face contorted by raging fury!! :mad: ;)


yeah, anger > misery cos at least you can do stuff when you're angry

Hehehehehe :p

We should start up a list of albums NOT to listen to when depressed....

I got a stuffed kitten, while she can't move on her own she doesn't require the spending of anymore money, and she'll always stay a kitten. :D
ooh i have a better idea!

http://katu.com/news/images/story2004/040901suds_cat_face.jpg

there... now all i need do is buy an aibo and staple that to its face. :D

Hehehehehe :p

We should start up a list of albums NOT to listen to when depressed....
lol well happy pop music is out of the question then ;)

i recommend Crowbar's Lifesblood For The Downtrodden

I've suffered from clinical depression since I was about 14. Prozac helped considerably, but as has already been stated on the thread, there's nothing like true friends who will let you rant and rave, let you cry etc.

For all their good intentions, though, as BlackwoodSquatches says, only people who've been through depression really understand. My mother in particular has been an asset through many of my depressed days - in some measure, part of that is that whole motherly love thing, but I think she has a better ability than even my closest mates because she's been through it herself.

While I can understand it in some ways, I suppose, it still incenses me that some people view depression as selfish or attention-seeking. In particular, suicide and suicide attempts are seen as cowardly and the pinnacle of selfishness. Maybe they are and maybe they aren't, but people outside depression do not understand the desperation and utter despair that gives rise to at least the majority of these actions. In less serious terms, it's not that you don't want to go to school/uni/work/whatever per se, it's that things are so dark and miserable, it's nigh impossible to make yourself. It's not that you want to cause everyone around you misery, it's that you can't help how miserable you are.

Depression, like many mental disorders I think, isn't seen by society at large as a 'real' illness. Well, ask anyone who's really suffered from it and I suspect the overwhelming majority will tell you that it is.

Things are much better for me now; I have a few good and close friends, good boyfriend, good education behind me, etc. But depression is not a rational thing; there are always good days and bad days no matter how excellent or otherwise things may be overall. The winter months are the worst; I've always had a pretty bad afflication of SAD. Regardless of how alright things may be, though, I'll never forget the worst days of my depression.

CW, you are more than welcome to TG me about this as well, as someone else who's been through it, and to some extent still goes through it, if you feel comfortable doing so. Regardless, I hope things improve for you :fluffle:

Hehehehehe :p

We should start up a list of albums NOT to listen to when depressed....


Pink Floyd :

The Wall.

and even more so, and this one is SERIOUS.

Pink Floyd "The Final Cut".
Just DONT.*

*Stephistan will likely disagree, if she reads this.

I must be on the opposite end of the depression spectrum. I actually get cheered up on rainy days and on dark, wintery nights! But, then again, I'm insaine....

@Pure Metal: People extend their love filled tendrils all the time, just a varing degrees of noticablity! And I had to listen to their problems quite a bit before they were to give me any, buts that's due mainly to my reclusive nature. What can I say, I gots trust issues.

Anyhow, get the kitten. I've met the nicest kittens here in Europe.

But, if you can, get a dog. A big big, or little crazy dog. My favorite are Boston Terriers, but I got a little Terrier mutt right now, and a medium Lab/Rotwiler mix. I like to use mine as pillows, and they even got me to excercise on a semi-regular basis! :p

i recommend Crowbar's Lifesblood For The Downtrodden

Ahhh, been meaning to get into them.

Pink Floyd :

The Wall.

and even more so, and this one is SERIOUS.

Pink Floyd "The Final Cut".
Just DONT.*

*Stephistan will likely disagree, if she reads this.

I have the Wall, but not The Final Cut. And I haven't listened to it while down...

I find that albums like these are paradoxically only best appreciated when you're feeling down yourself.

How about....Alice In Chains' "Dirt".

I must be on the opposite end of the depression spectrum. I actually get cheered up on rainy days and on dark, wintery nights! But, then again, I'm insaine....

@Pure Metal: People extend their love filled tendrils all the time, just a varing degrees of noticablity! And I had to listen to their problems quite a bit before they were to give me any, buts that's due mainly to my reclusive nature. What can I say, I gots trust issues.

Anyhow, get the kitten. I've met the nicest kittens here in Europe.

But, if you can, get a dog. A big big, or little crazy dog. My favorite are Boston Terriers, but I got a little Terrier mutt right now, and a medium Lab/Rotwiler mix. I like to use mine as pillows, and they even got me to excercise on a semi-regular basis! :p
you are insane :p
nah there is something nice about being inside all cozy and warm on rainy, cold and dark wintery nights... just not when you're depressed lol :p

but these were people i'd known for...oooh... 8 years or so. i think i'd earned a bit of respect/care coming my way by then, but nope. ok the other flatmate i'd only known for 2 years but still...
then again, everybody's different *shrugs*


(and i'm allergic to dog hair. no dogs for me :()

Ahhh, been meaning to get into them.



I have the Wall, but not The Final Cut. And I haven't listened to it while down...

I find that albums like these are paradoxically only best appreciated when you're feeling down yourself.

How about....Alice In Chains' "Dirt".


"The Final Cut" is a whole lot of Roger Waters, very little David Gilmour, and absolutely no Rick Wright.

As for "Dirt", thats a downer album too, but one that I will always love.

I suggest listening to some Orchid.

Hehehehehe :p

We should start up a list of albums NOT to listen to when depressed....
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/282127
listen to that and i guarentee youll be depressed.

Thanks, hon. I really appreciate it :fluffle:

It'll pass, as always. I guess it's just that I can only keep happy for so long before all gets dark again and I have to bite my way out again


I know me telling you I know how you feel doesnt exactly help much. Try to laugh at something. My shocking vulgarity is how I sometimes deal with it. In case you hadnt already noticed.

I know me telling you I know how you feel doesnt exactly help much. Try to laugh at something. My shocking vulgarity is how I sometimes deal with it. In case you hadnt already noticed.

Considering the frequency of your "shocking vulgarity"... please tell me that that's not the only reason why you employ it

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/282127
listen to that and i guarentee youll be depressed.

I know the song already, and yes, it qualifies :p

I like Infectious Grooves when I want to cheer up

http://www.extremefunnyhumor.com/fun_madcow.htm should bring at least an amused smirk :D

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?
Right after the military parachuting accident that almost killed me back in 1996. The accident happened on November 15th and I spent Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's in Womack Army Hospital, Fort Bragg, NC.

Because Fort Bragg is 90 miles away, I seldom got a visit from my family. And since my wife and I were separated, she visited even less. The church our family had been attending for about ten years ignored me completely. Even though I had been a Sunday School teacher and had been to almost every service held during those ten years, I didn't get one visit, one phone call, or one card from any member ... not even from the Pastor. That's one of the primary things which prompted me to totally reconsider everything I thought I believed.

I celebrated Thanksgiving by wheeling myself downstairs to the hospital cafeteria, Christmas by talking with some of the other guys in my ward, and New Years by getting drunk on some beer a staff-member smuggled in to us.

EDIT: During that entire time, the only people on whom I felt I could count were my fellow soldiers. Now you know why I'm so fierce in my devotion to them.

I celebrated Thanksgiving by wheeling myself downstairs to the hospital cafeteria, Christmas by talking with some of the other guys in my ward, and New Years by getting drunk on some beer a staff-member smuggled in to us.
sounds shit :(

i remember spending valentine's day (and the surrounding week+) in a hospital a few years back. hated that day ever since, heh.

sounds shit :(

i remember spending valentine's day (and the surrounding week+) in a hospital a few years back. hated that day ever since, heh.
Understandable. And yes, it was shit. I've never felt so abandoned in my entire life. :(

Well, I've had Major Depression for two years now. I'm finally going to a psychiatrist about it (I have been seeing a psychologist, though.), so I'm probably going to start medication. I know all the side effects it can cause, so I'm slightly worried. Has anyone been on medication for this and can tell me how it went?

Every minute of every day for the last 38 years. (No, I'm not kidding)

Well, I've had Major Depression for two years now. I'm finally going to a psychiatrist about it (I have been seeing a psychologist, though.), so I'm probably going to start medication. I know all the side effects it can cause, so I'm slightly worried. Has anyone been on medication for this and can tell me how it went?


I've been on more than one thing over the last 2 1/2 years. I've not had trouble with side effects, my main problem is that they don't seem to work for me.

I haven't been on medication myself, yet, for depression, but my fiance was. He was three different SSRI's.....they did not work for him at all, but for others they tend to work. Tricyclics work, but they tend to have unpleasent side-effects. MAOI's can be difficult and you need to be careful when on them. Remember though, with all drug therapies.....it is trial and error....and you sometimes feel like a test subject when tossed from one to another to the latest drug to clinical trials....

As for alternate therapies, UV light stimulation is said to be somewhat effective. Intrapersonal therapies and cognitive behavior therapies are always good to help address the issues plaquing you. EMDR, as I've recently been informed, also seems to be a promising solution. Electroshock therapy is making a come back, although they are unsure precisely what it is that helps, but only that it does help and is generally only used in the case of severe depression.

Do not be so quick to take the route of medication without trying the alternative therapies. Drug therapies are not a solution just a management of symptoms. Not only that, but they tend to create more problems and cause addictions.

Well, I've had Major Depression for two years now. I'm finally going to a psychiatrist about it (I have been seeing a psychologist, though.), so I'm probably going to start medication. I know all the side effects it can cause, so I'm slightly worried. Has anyone been on medication for this and can tell me how it went?

Were you diagnosed with Major Depression? Because if you have not, then you may have another problem. Major Depression tends to remit after about nine months but can reoccur later in life.

There is another depression problem not so common that seems to fit the length period of depression you have, dysthemia. I have Double Depression myself, ranging from dysthemia to major depression.....not pleasent.

Depression that lasts over a year that is not the result of an immediate identifiable problem should usually be taken to a professional. Do not take depression lightly, the more you postpone it and treatment, the further inward you go, until you are so far in there is no longer any light or a seemingly possible way out. Learn from other's mistakes....get help immediately. Do not take depression lightly at all.

Moreover, do not let that whole profile of if you seek help that you are somehow weak or have problems. Even the strongest of people will end up trying to kill themselves as a result to depression.....this I've seen firsthand and would rather have not, but there is nothing to change the past.

When was the last time you felt really, really low? Left out, alone, cold, miserable, like you hadn't a friend in the world?


Its been so long since I have felt good that I am worried that i don't know what it feels like to be ok. I know I used to be good and happy, but since my accident in 97 I just have not been able to.(nasty housefire+burn scars almost died) I know that it has something to do with it but I don't know how to fix it. I spent the first couple a years shugging it off like it was no big deal you know nothing I couldn't overcome. But I know it has affected me. As for being lonely I am the king(chicks do not dig scars!). I have friends but thats it, not one stable relationship in 8 f--ing years. yeah I am very lonely:headbang: :headbang: :(

Just a thought, if anyone needs to talk about, hunt me down. I've become rather experienced in the field of depression, from the outside perspective of watching a loved one suffer to going through it myself. It is not an easy time for anyone who is depressed and I know despite the social withdrawal you go through, you still want someone around to just be there and listen sometimes.

So if you ever need that someone to just listen, hunt me down. I'm always there for a fellow person with a psychological disorder, especially depression.

:D

I'm too lazy to read back...


Anyone posted Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life yet? [/easy reference mode]

Morbid humor seems to work best fo me when I am a bit down:

http://www.angelfire.com/wa/zzaran/calvin.html

not that this is all that morbid but I think it can be considered black comedy, no?

Has anyone been on medication for this and can tell me how it went?I've been on Prozac for about eight years. I've put on a bit of weight as a consequence (something about which couldn't care less, but perhaps others could), but other than that there's been no problems at all. One thing other people I knew that took anti-depressants sometimes found was that, for the first few weeks, your depression seems to get worse than it previously was. However, for most, after that stage things begin to balance themselves and in the majority of cases helped them.

Anti-depressants affect different people in different ways, so make sure you discuss which one (if any) is best for you in detail with your psychiatrist. I wish you lots of luck.

I quite literally don't remember ever not being depressed. I'm actually kind of used to being consumed by overwhelming lonliness.

wow i read a couple of pages and it got too depressing.

I've been on a drug called lovan for a few years now, apparently it is similar to prozac.
It's the best thing i've ever done. It has made such an incredible difference to my life and the lives of my family.
Talk to a GP about it.

* Lawyer: "Now, Mrs. Johnson, how was your first marriage terminated?"
* Witness: "By death."
* Lawyer: "And by whose death was it terminated?"

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* Accused, Defending His Own Case: "Did you get a good look at my face when I took your purse?"

The defendant was found guilty and sentenced to ten years in jail.

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* Lawyer: "Can you describe what the person who attacked you looked like?"
* Witness: "No. He was wearing a mask."
* Lawyer: "What was he wearing under the mask?"
* Witness: "Er...his face."

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* Lawyer: "This myasthenia gravis -- does it affect your memory at all?"
* Witness: "Yes."
* Lawyer: "And in what ways does it affect your memory?"
* Witness: "I forget."
* Lawyer: "You forget. Can you give us an example of something that you've forgotten?"

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* Lawyer: "How old is your son, the one living with you?"
* Witness: "Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can't remember which."
* Lawyer: "How long has he lived with you?"
* Witness: "Forty-five years."

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* Lawyer: "What was the first thing your husband said to you when he woke that morning?"
* Witness: "He said, 'Where am I, Cathy?'"
* Lawyer: "And why did that upset you?"
* Witness: "My name is Susan."

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* Lawyer: "Trooper, when you stopped the defendant, were your red and blue lights flashing?"
* Witness: "Yes."
* Lawyer: "Did the defendant say anything when she got out of her car?"
* Witness: "Yes, sir."
* Lawyer: "What did she say?"
* Witness: "'What disco am I at?'"

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* Lawyer: "Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?"
* Witness: "No."
* Lawyer: "Did you check for blood pressure?"
* Witness: "No."
* Lawyer: "Did you check for breathing?"
* Witness: "No."
* Lawyer: "So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?"
* Witness: "No."
* Lawyer: "How can you be so sure, Doctor?"
* Witness: "Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar."
* Lawyer: "But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless?"
* Witness: "Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere."

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* Lawyer: "How far apart were the vehicles at the time of the collision?"

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* Lawyer: "What happened then?"
* Witness: "He told me, he says, 'I have to kill you because you can identify me.'"
* Lawyer: "Did he kill you?"
* Witness: "No."

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* Lawyer: "Now sir, I'm sure you are an intelligent and honest man--"
* Witness: "Thank you. If I weren't under oath, I'd return the compliment."

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* Lawyer: "You were there until the time you left, is that true?"

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* Lawyer: "The youngest son, the 20 year old, how old is he?"

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* Witness: "He was about medium height and had a beard."
* Lawyer: "Was this a male or a female?"

Thank you to those you replied to my query.

To answer Der Fuhrer Dyszel: No, I have not been technically diagnosed with Major Depression by a psychiatrist or doctor. My psychologist has told me she believes this is the problem. I found it kind of odd that it would last that long as well, but I also knew that it was more severe than dysthemia. However, I may or may not have had manic attacks and unusual perceptions, so, I'm not really sure where I fit. I am seeing a psychiatrist this Saturday, so hopefully it will all be cleared up soon.

I quite literally don't remember ever not being depressed. I'm actually kind of used to being consumed by overwhelming lonliness.
That's about the only "depressing" thing with which I have to deal on a relatively recurring basis. I miss my wife. Fortunately, almost all of my children live within walking distance and when things get really bad, I visit one of them for a couple of hours, always by calling first since I don't wish to intrude. It also helps a bit to have pets.

I use to get depressed about bills, but carefully cultivated a "so send my ass to jail" attitude when I can't pay all of them. :D

* Lawyer: "Now sir, I'm sure you are an intelligent and honest man--"
* Witness: "Thank you. If I weren't under oath, I'd return the compliment."

ROFLMAO!!! BUSTED! :D

Morbid humor seems to work best fo me when I am a bit down:

http://www.angelfire.com/wa/zzaran/calvin.html

not that this is all that morbid but I think it can be considered black comedy, no?
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!,I had forgotten how much i loved Calvin and Hobbes.I am going to go out and buy some more books of this guy:)

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!,I had forgotten how much i loved Calvin and Hobbes.I am going to go out and buy some more books of this guy:)

YW!

I'm happy I made at least one person smile. :)

ROFLMAO!!! BUSTED! :D

hehehe :D

you are insane :p
nah there is something nice about being inside all cozy and warm on rainy, cold and dark wintery nights... just not when you're depressed lol :p

but these were people i'd known for...oooh... 8 years or so. i think i'd earned a bit of respect/care coming my way by then, but nope. ok the other flatmate i'd only known for 2 years but still...
then again, everybody's different *shrugs*


(and i'm allergic to dog hair. no dogs for me :()
No Dog's aye?
Suck's to be you.

real, true depression? Since the summer. I lost a friend of mine in May to cancer (19 years old...I'm still not all the way over that), and shortly after my best friend was in a car accident. Among other issues.

Honestly, it doesn't happen much to me now. I've learned my triggers and my salvations. Oddly, the major ones are music and literature for both. A happy book or song can change my mood in 3 minutes. same for a sad one.

I must say, a rainy day is enhanced with The Smiths - Asleep, Ride - Vapour Trail, Smashing Pumpkins - Tonight Reprise and U2 - MLK. My favorite thing to do on a rainy day is put on comfortable clothing, get a coffee, go down to the harbor, and listen to these songs while I smoke a cig, drink my coffee, and just focus on the rain

Eut, that explains alot. Nice to know that story, and I'm sorry you had to go through that.

want to feel better? Blast Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone and Buckcherry - Lit Up, and jump on a bed. I promise, you will laugh.

PM, you're gonna have a TG.

fuck me i'm lonely right now :(
just had to say that.

real, true depression? Since the summer. I lost a friend of mine in May to cancer (19 years old...I'm still not all the way over that), and shortly after my best friend was in a car accident. Among other issues.

i know what that feels like... kinda. i know its hard anyway so (as if it makes any difference) you have my sympathies for your loss :(

back in one year of school i had one friend of mine die in a car crash, another (sort-of friend in another year) go missing never to be found (still no body), and another friend (who i'd been friends with since pre-school) die in a motorbike crash. hard year that, coupling it with a-levels and all that :p :(
i don't know about you, but i found that what depression i had before (i know it started the year before that) took a quantom leap then and i totally stopped feeling emotion alltogether. i still can't really forgive myself for not feeling any sorrow at their deaths, not even at the funerals. bah...

PM, you're gonna have a TG.
recieved, read and not replied yet lol - i will do tomorrow. thanks :) :fluffle: