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Do you believe in God?

Alexandria Quatriem
13-12-2005, 20:43
If you look here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=459061), you'll see a thread displaying some rather surprising results from a poll. I'm just interested to see how those results compare to NSers. Thanks for voting.

EDIT: I realise I am about to be attacked by a mob of indignant agnostics, so I decided to add this: If you believe we cannot know, or describe yourself as "undecided", please put which option you are leaning closer to, think so or think not.
Talthia
13-12-2005, 20:48
*votes in the invisible poll*

I do, though my interpretation of 'god' is entirely different from that of the Abrahamic religions.

EDIT* Curse my super-fast posting skills!
Heavenly Sex
13-12-2005, 21:01
Nope, definitely not. I don't take any of this bs :rolleyes:
I don't believe in other imaginary creatures either, like the tooth fair, the eater bunny, Or Santa :rolleyes:
Carops
13-12-2005, 21:03
Yes I do.*fears reprisals*
But im a nice, quiet Christian, not a fundy.
The South Islands
13-12-2005, 21:04
You should have made it public.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-12-2005, 21:05
I don't believe in other imaginary creatures either, like the tooth fair, the eater bunny, Or Santa :rolleyes:
While I don't believe in God, I do believe in the Eater Bunny, and he is a real mean bastard. Always tunneling undergroung, pursuing food. Those of us in the Bronx live in constant fear that he may strike and consume us at any minute.
The Eliki
13-12-2005, 21:06
Is it proper to say one is "certain" in God's existance? If He is certain, then there's no need for faith.

That being said, I believe there is a God and I have faith in Him.

Nope, definitely not. I don't take any of this bs :rolleyes:
I don't believe in other imaginary creatures either, like the tooth fair, the eater bunny, Or Santa :rolleyes:
You know, sarcasm is only effective sparingly.
Economic Associates
13-12-2005, 21:07
Where is the "we can't know if there is or is not a god" option?
Drunk commies deleted
13-12-2005, 21:10
There is no way to be certain that a supernatural entity doesn't exist, therefore I can't be certain that there is no god, but I believe that there is no god due to lack of evidence for it's existence.
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 21:10
While I don't believe in God, I do believe in the Eater Bunny, and he is a real mean bastard. Always tunneling undergroung, pursuing food. Those of us in the Bronx live in constant fear that he may strike and consume us at any minute.
.. But I was gonna say that!

I can't believe the Eater Bunny has relatives across the pond.
Economic Associates
13-12-2005, 21:11
EDIT: I realise I am about to be attacked by a mob of indignant agnostics, so I decided to add this: If you believe we cannot know, or describe yourself as "undecided", please put which option you are leaning closer to, think so or think not.
And if your not leaning either way which option then?
Willamena
13-12-2005, 21:12
I believe in god as a reflection of ourselves.
Palacetonia
13-12-2005, 21:13
I dont beleive in god, but i do beleive in the innate goodness of humankind to work together for the betterment of mankind. Ho hum.....

It is my contention that religion is the cause of all trouble in the world especially over such minor differences like transubtantiation or whatever it is the Sunni and Shias fight over. Hello?? GET OVER IT!!

My religion is Football (Soccer for the yanks)
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-12-2005, 21:13
.. But I was gonna say that!

I can't believe the Eater Bunny has relatives across the pond.
There is a little Eater Bunny is in all of us!
He's that voice in the back of your head tellling to you to "KILL!KILL!KILL!FEAST!DEVOUR!CONSUME!KILL!" (and as such is much more popular in the US than anywhere else).
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-12-2005, 21:14
And if your not leaning either way which option then?
Then which one would you, personally, prefer?
Economic Associates
13-12-2005, 21:15
Then which one would you, personally, prefer?

What if I don't prefer any of them?
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 21:16
And if your not leaning either way which option then?Then you should work on not becomming so indecisive that you choke while you argue with yourself over whether to strain your poor lungs with breathing or not.

Or something..

Do you sometimes pray? Like "Oh God, please don't let the kids play with the gas oven while I pick up granny at the airport"? If you do, then you do believe there is a God. If not, then you don't.
Willamena
13-12-2005, 21:16
What if I don't prefer any of them?
I didn't either, but it's all you're given to choose from.
Safalra
13-12-2005, 21:21
An NS poll on this subject three weeks ago (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=455252) found the following results:

Do you belive in God?
96 (27.67%) Yes.
198 (57.06%) No.
53 (15.27%) No sure really... I guess...he could exist...or he could not...
Economic Associates
13-12-2005, 21:22
Then you should work on not becomming so indecisive that you choke while you argue with yourself over whether to strain your poor lungs with breathing or not.

Or something..
You mean there are other people like that? I thought I was the only one. :rolleyes:
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-12-2005, 21:23
What if I don't prefer any of them?
Then quit being such an argumentative twat and flip a coin.
Hullepupp
13-12-2005, 21:24
I really thinks she exists
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-12-2005, 21:25
I really thinks she exists
Heathen, God is a hermaphrodite and you fucking know it!
BURN OR REPENT!
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 21:27
You mean there are other people like that? I thought I was the only one. :rolleyes:
Aww, it was just a bit of innocent fun.

Why don't you describe what option would fit you? That way, people might give you a proper choice next time ;)

If all else fails, you can always offer yourself to the mighty Eater Bunny.
Economic Associates
13-12-2005, 21:28
Then quit being such an argumentative twat and flip a coin.

Do coins exist? Does reality even exist. Or is this just a dream. Perhaps were in a giant machine somewhere.....

If all else fails, you can always offer yourself to the mighty Eater Bunny.
I would but I think the collective cast of Monty Python would rise up and get me first.
Hullepupp
13-12-2005, 21:29
Heathen, God is a hermaphrodite and you fucking know it!
BURN OR REPENT!
*lol so we have to say IT ????
Freistaat Dithmarschen
13-12-2005, 21:33
Yes, I believe in God the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Heron-Marked Warriors
13-12-2005, 21:33
I don't know. On the one hand, it's hard to believe that there isn't a god behind all this **points at the world outside**. But on the other, i sort of hope there isn't because if there is, he's coming across as a completely heartless bastard.
Rohirric Legend
13-12-2005, 21:34
I believe in God. But then I also believe that Dumbledore is not dead! So that fucks up my reliability, don't you think?

Take a look... (http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com)
OG_SNOW
13-12-2005, 21:34
im not saying there is no god out there im just saying the bible doesnt say the truth...how could one man/being/or thing have created all of us, the earth and all that other crap.....so thats saying he just made himself too...think about it..most people who read the bible believe it becasue someone they know does...well if someone truly believes in god and the bible and what not and that he created us then WHO CREATED GOD???? if you have an answer to that i'd like to know.
Kazcaper
13-12-2005, 21:35
Where is the "we can't know if there is or is not a god" option?Indeed. I said I don't think there is in the poll, but there would be other choices that would correlate better to my beliefs.
Kefren
13-12-2005, 21:37
Is it proper to say one is "certain" in God's existance? If He is certain, then there's no need for faith.

That being said, I believe there is a God and I have faith in Him.


You know, sarcasm is only effective sparingly.

I don't think he was being sarcastic
New Rafnaland
13-12-2005, 21:38
Heathen, God is a hermaphrodite and you fucking know it!
BURN OR REPENT!

You shouldn't make them choose, that would be torture. Just give 'em both!

And the proper term for a hermaphrodite isn't 'it'. IRL, it's either 'he' or 'she' and in the porn industry and Role-Playing community it's 'shi/sie' and 'hir'.
New Better Ireland
13-12-2005, 21:39
There is a little Eater Bunny is in all of us!
He's that voice in the back of your head tellling to you to "KILL!KILL!KILL!FEAST!DEVOUR!CONSUME!KILL!" (and as such is much more popular in the US than anywhere else).
The easter bunny is related to the toothfairy, who is related to leprachauns, who is related to santa, and as we all know santa is actually satan in a fat suit... SANTA-SATAN... not only the name, but the fact that they both were red.
And please no one give me coca-cola came up with the santa colors crap because coca-cola is Satan's and Santa's cocain, down in hell they mix it with brimstone and call it "The bloody virgin marry".
MuhOre
13-12-2005, 21:39
Yes i believe G-d exists...but i do not believe athiests exist...;)
New Better Ireland
13-12-2005, 21:41
Do coins exist? Does reality even exist. Or is this just a dream. Perhaps were in a giant machine somewhere.....


I would but I think the collective cast of Monty Python would rise up and get me first.
Watch out for the holy handgranade
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 21:41
Do coins exist? Does reality even exist. Or is this just a dream. Perhaps were in a giant machine somewhere.....And you felt my comment about your indecisiveness was uncalled for?! Whoa!I would but I think the collective cast of Monty Python would rise up and get me first.Either way, problem solved. Food can't be chosers you know.. Or something like that.
Kefren
13-12-2005, 21:42
Yes i believe G-d exists...but i do not believe athiests exist...;)

I'm an atheist.... here's a little something from another thread i posted earlier today:

What of the following statements is the most logical/simple:

A being created the universe
The universe always existed in some form

Said supreme being always existed
The material in the universe always existed in some form or another

Said supreme being is intelligent and capable of creating lifeforms
Chemical & electrical interaction between source material created lifeforms
Huntaer
13-12-2005, 21:42
I think that there isn't enough evidence to provide that there is a god, or that there isn't a god.

However:

If you believe in a god (or god, depending on your point of view), that's fine.
If you don't, that's fine.
If there are multiple gods (Egyptians, Greeks, Aztecs), fine.

We all have different opinions.
New Rafnaland
13-12-2005, 21:42
im not saying there is no god out there im just saying the bible doesnt say the truth...how could one man/being/or thing have created all of us, the earth and all that other crap.....so thats saying he just made himself too...think about it..most people who read the bible believe it becasue someone they know does...well if someone truly believes in god and the bible and what not and that he created us then WHO CREATED GOD???? if you have an answer to that i'd like to know.

Man created God. Don't let the Time/Space Continuum hinder your understanding.

I don't know. On the one hand, it's hard to believe that there isn't a god behind all this **points at the world outside**. But on the other, i sort of hope there isn't because if there is, he's coming across as a completely heartless bastard.

You might find Deism to your liking. It's the belief that there is a God, he/she/it/tey/shi/they created the universe and then let things fall where they will. That is to say, they don't believe God takes an active role in day-to-day life.
Godavia
13-12-2005, 21:44
Is it proper to say one is "certain" in God's existance? If He is certain, then there's no need for faith.

That being said, I believe there is a God and I have faith in Him.


You know, sarcasm is only effective sparingly.

I have to disagree....being certain of God's existance gives you faith that there is someone/something there to answer your prayers and give you the strength to deal with your fears.
Kefren
13-12-2005, 21:46
You might find Deism to your liking. It's the belief that there is a God, he/she/it/tey/shi/they created the universe and then let things fall where they will. That is to say, they don't believe God takes an active role in day-to-day life.

I have an idea, what if the big bang was actually god's head exploding while he was trying to understand his own origins & existance? :p
America of Tomorrow
13-12-2005, 21:52
I don't believe in other imaginary creatures either, like the tooth fair, the eater bunny, Or Santa
While I don't believe in God, I do believe in the Eater Bunny, and he is a real mean bastard. Always tunneling undergroung, pursuing food. Those of us in the Bronx live in constant fear that he may strike and consume us at any minute.

Hm. I don't believe in a god either ((though, I'm slightly uncertain, but more certain that there isn't one)) but I don't think that that's any way to treat the concept of an "imaginary creature" that most people believe in for their entire lives - Santa Clause and the Easter bunny are mainly childhood "imaginary creatures."

Religion is life to some people. ((Though those people get on my nerves, lol :mad: , but I deal)) No one really needs to be dissing them...
The Galbortix
13-12-2005, 21:54
You have to accept whatever riligion by faith. If you're an athiest then there's no proof that God doesn't exist. If you believe in God then there's no proof that he does exist. Leaps of faith everywhere.
Kefren
13-12-2005, 21:55
You have to accept whatever riligion by faith. If you're an athiest then there's no proof that God doesn't exist. If you believe in God then there's no proof that he does exist. Leaps of faith everywhere.

There's no proof, but there are logical steps that can bring someone to believe he doesn't exist, see my prior post
Kamsaki
13-12-2005, 22:25
Define God. My answer will vary depending on what you mean by God. If you mean omnipotent and benevolent creator and controller of all things a-la monotheism, then no. But I can pretty much accept more or less any other possible meaning you could care to put on it.
Preebs
13-12-2005, 22:40
No gods, no masters. :D
I just wanted to say that... But yeah, no evidence to me = no god. So I said I was certain.
Saxnot
13-12-2005, 22:58
I do, though my interpretation of 'god' is entirely different from that of the Abrahamic religions.
Hells yes. Non-abrahamic agnostic here. (In that a divinity may exist, but I've pretty much ruled out that of those faiths deriving from Abraham.)
Castilandia
13-12-2005, 23:05
I am certain there is a god. Ok the universe was started by the big bang. but then what started the big bang, the answer is simple:

It was started by an agent or something that was outside time and space (for the universe is space and that space is in time, it si constantly changing) Therefore that means that what started everything was God.
The United Sandwiches
13-12-2005, 23:08
Well, i have certain issues with the idea of god. I personally don't believe in god but i think each person should believe in their own god. I think that god differs from person to person and that the idea of one organized god that everyone can worship is simply dumb. I think that organized religion should be outlawed as dumb. Organized religion is a good way for chruch owners to get tax benefits and collect money from outstanding society. That is my stand on this topic and you may telegram me if you feel the need to tell me i'm ridiculously stupid.
The United Sandwiches
13-12-2005, 23:11
It was started by an agent or something that was outside time and space (for the universe is space and that space is in time, it si constantly changing) Therefore that means that what started everything was God.


ok so you suggest that god is outside time and space, but in your belief a bunch of dust coming from nowhere is less believeable then a diety from nowhere made of nothing is in a realm that we cannot comprehend made everything also out of nothing? if that's the case not only are you easy to decieve you also believe what the church feeds to you.
America of Tomorrow
14-12-2005, 01:10
There's no proof, but there are logical steps that can bring someone to believe he doesn't exist, see my prior post
And some "logical steps" that he does exist... :rolleyes: