NationStates Jolt Archive


The Nazi Problem.

West Pacific
13-12-2005, 08:52
Seeing as how the second largest following of Nazi's outside of Germany in WWII was in America and right now the largest following of Nazi's are also in America I propose the following.

All those claiming to Neo-Nazis, Nazis, or any variation of the sort should be, not shot, no that is far better than they deserve. All males should have their genitals sawed off with mint flavored dental floss, mint flavored is a necessity because I believe that years down the road somebody will find some stupid reason as to why this was symbolic or ironic in some way. Next they would have to endure 7 days of hard labor, sleepless nights, no food and just for the hell of it give them a gay room mate who has been without sex in three years, make that two gay room mates. After this we would put them in a room with two inch thick steel walls, no windows, and one speaker built into the ceiling playing non-stop hip hop music. Oh yeah, I forgot, the would be given a gun and a pillow.

Because I am such a compassionate guy all the women would just be shot. Not even forced into prostitution or anything, just shot.

The children would be spared because they could hopefully still be led to good and not be forced to live a life of bigotry like their "parents" wanted them to. Unfortunately the above punishments shall still have to be used if as an adult the idiot still follows those beliefs.

And just for the heck of it, from this day forth all pinatas shall be in the shape of Hitler.

Edit: Similized World(sp?) pointed out an important typo to me, it said "god" when I meant "good". Thank you. (Please remember, I wrote this in approx. three minutes at 2am, wasn't all there if you know what I mean. I actually kind of forgot that I actually posted this too, thought I deleted it. :S )
Gartref
13-12-2005, 08:53
I hate Illinois Nazis.
Pepe Dominguez
13-12-2005, 08:56
Seeing as how the second largest following of Nazi's outside of Germany in WWII was in America and right now the largest following of Nazi's are also in America I propose the following.


I kinda doubt both of these statements.. the GAB (German-American Bund) was never a very big movement prior to WWII, and it died once we declared war on Germany, instantly.. it's founder, Fritz Kuhn was imprisoned for 5 years in Texas as a precaution, if I remember correctly. We still have Nazis today, but I would doubt that we have very many, and probably fewer than the few they still have in Germany.
THE LOST PLANET
13-12-2005, 08:56
I hate Illinois Nazis.I believe the line is "I hate god-damn Illinios Nazi's";)
Gartref
13-12-2005, 08:59
Hey West Pacific... I just noticed you're from Sioux Falls. I lived there for many years. How's the Zip tower doing anyway?
THE LOST PLANET
13-12-2005, 09:00
I kinda doubt both of these statements.. the GAB (German-American Bund) was never a very big movement prior to WWII, and it died once we declared war on Germany, instantly.. it's founder, Fritz Kuhn was imprisoned for 5 years in Texas as a precaution, if I remember correctly. We still have Nazis today, but I would doubt that we have very many, and probably fewer than the few they still have in Germany.Although your correct about the historical Nazi's, sadly I think he's right about the current crop. We got more of 'em here in the US than anywhere. In Germany they're outlawed, in the US their rights are protected. Ironic, huh.
West Pacific
13-12-2005, 09:03
Hey West Pacific... I just noticed you're from Sioux Falls. I lived there for many years. How's the Zip tower doing anyway?

Thirty feet shorter, got a wrecking ball on the scene now, god that was funny. Big countdown, 25,000 ticket raffle to hit the button. At 12:54 there was a big BOOM! It dropped 30 feet and now is the "Leaning Grain Elevator of Sioux Falls."
Monkeypimp
13-12-2005, 09:04
I kinda doubt both of these statements.. the GAB (German-American Bund) was never a very big movement prior to WWII, and it died once we declared war on Germany, instantly.. it's founder, Fritz Kuhn was imprisoned for 5 years in Texas as a precaution, if I remember correctly. We still have Nazis today, but I would doubt that we have very many, and probably fewer than the few they still have in Germany.

I guess it depends whether or not you lump people with 'similar views' (KKK etc) with people who straight up claim to be nazi's.
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 09:04
The children would be spared because they could hopefully still be led to god and not be forced to live a life of bigotry like their "parents" wanted them to. Unfortunately the above punishments shall still have to be used if as an adult the idiot still follows those beliefs.Right.. Uhm.. Not all godless people are nazis.

Anyway, there are actually cults of gay-neo-nazi 'skinheads' in the US. No need to drag innocent sane homos into it. Let the nazis skrew eachother, eh?

To me it seems the best course of action is to beat the living shit out of them whereever they're found. Be consistent about it, and eventually they'll go away. Tried & true. Nazis are basically wankers. Most of them don't believe half the shit they spew, so after getting hospitalized a couple of times, they move on to other things (and countries).
Forfania Gottesleugner
13-12-2005, 09:04
Those are some pretty prejudicial views on horny gay men and hip-hop music. Maybe you should re-evaluate your own prejudices.

Neo-nazis aren't really a big issue in the United States. There are many other groups that are considered legitimate by many more people than neo-nazis(who really pose no threat to society in america because of their small and helpless numbers) that preach hate against minorities. For one religious persecution against homosexuals. How about the extreme religous right trying to institute intellegent design(a blatent attempt to teach their religion in schools and thus automatically create a prejudice towards other religions and athiests). To move beyond religion even the KKK still has a larger following than the neo-nazi movement. How about nationally supported violent gangs like the Crips and Bloods that are created largely because of the inherent discrimination toward blacks.
Pepe Dominguez
13-12-2005, 09:05
Although your correct about the historical Nazi's, sadly I think he's right about the current crop. We got more of 'em here in the US than anywhere. In Germany they're outlawed, in the US their rights are protected. Ironic, huh.

Hard to say, since I've really no idea how many actual Nazis we have in this country.. Although I'm sure they keep a lower profile in countries that ban their meeting or displaying symbols..
West Pacific
13-12-2005, 09:07
Ok, two numbers come to mind, 250,000 and 1,000,000. I want to say that 1,000,000 was the number of Nazi's in the US prior to WWII and 250,000 is the number of "neo-nazis" currently registered in the US. (Yes, they have their own political party here.)

I think these days Brazil or Argentina might have more Nazis but I doubt it.

It is one of those things that go along with freedom of speech, we have to put up with this shit also.
511 LaFarge
13-12-2005, 09:08
...I propose the following.

All those claiming to Neo-Nazis, Nazis, or any variation of the sort should be, not shot, no that is far better than they deserve. All males should have their genitals sawed off with mint flavored dental floss, mint flavored is a necessity because I believe that years down the road somebody will find some stupid reason as to why this was symbolic or ironic in some way. Next they would have to endure 7 days of hard labor, sleepless nights, no food and just for the hell of it give them a gay room mate who has been without sex in three years, make that two gay room mates. After this we would put them in a room with two inch thick steel walls, no windows, and one speaker built into the ceiling playing non-stop hip hop music. Oh yeah, I forgot, the would be given a gun and a pillow.

Because I am such a compassionate guy all the women would just be shot. Not even forced into prostitution or anything, just shot.

The children would be spared because they could hopefully still be led to god and not be forced to live a life of bigotry like their "parents" wanted them to. Unfortunately the above punishments shall still have to be used if as an adult the idiot still follows those beliefs.

And just for the heck of it, from this day forth all pinatas shall be in the shape of Hitler.

You are as bad as they are, perhaps worse because you have not learned from their mistakes.
Spalec
13-12-2005, 09:11
I hate Illinois Nazis.

Do you know every single Illinois Nazi? If you don't that's a bit of a discrimitory statement isn't it? ....:mad:
[NS]Trans-human
13-12-2005, 09:13
We should take all racists, homophobes, and all haters of minorities into camps. In these camps they will be forced into hard labor. All prisoners will be assigned a number tatooed on their arm They shall only get a little bread and water. Some shall be experimented upon to further science. Any who fall behind shall be taken to gas chambers. Eventually all shall be sent to the gas chambers. Eventually the final solution to the hater problem will be solved.:rolleyes:
West Pacific
13-12-2005, 09:14
Those are some pretty prejudicial views on horny gay men and hip-hop music. Maybe you should re-evaluate your own prejudices.

Nah, I don't have a problem with gays or hip hop music. I think there are better types of music but that's just my opinion.

See, I am not a "Nazi" so therefore I have to guess at how they would feel and I am guessing that they wouldn't like gays or blacks. (The latter is based on the movie "Swing Kids" while the former is based on a show where a racist redneck from the South was forced to live with a gay guy in San Francisco.)

BTW, is it not normal to assume that a man who hasn't had sex in X number of years will have a little bit of.... pent up emotions, so to say?
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 09:15
Do you know every single Illinois Nazi? If you don't that's a bit of a discrimitory statement isn't it? ....:mad:No. Saying he'd tolerate their continued existence would be discrimatory. Against humanity at large.

Nazis are God's punching-bag design. But it's ok if you go at them with a meat axe.
Pepe Dominguez
13-12-2005, 09:16
Ok, two numbers come to mind, 250,000 and 1,000,000. I want to say that 1,000,000 was the number of Nazi's in the US prior to WWII and 250,000 is the number of "neo-nazis" currently registered in the US. (Yes, they have their own political party here.)

I think these days Brazil or Argentina might have more Nazis but I doubt it.

It is one of those things that go along with freedom of speech, we have to put up with this shit also.

The GAB had 25,000 members at its height, mostly children of German immigrants who probably didn't have any say in their membership.. kinda like Summer Camp with a twist..
West Pacific
13-12-2005, 09:21
So let me get this straight, it is discrimination to hate someone because they hate people because that are not White-Christians, have tried to eradicate an entire people from the face of the planet, and endorse those beliefs to this day? Personally, I don't know of any better reason to hate someone. If you can't hate them for who and what they are, inside and out, what can you hate them for?

Perhaps its just me, but I don't see anything wrong with hating someone who wants to kill so many people just because of the color of their skin or their religion, even their hair and eye color for crying out loud.
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 09:25
So let me get this straight, it is discrimination to hate someone because they hate people because that are not White-Christians, have tried to eradicate an entire people from the face of the planet, and endorse those beliefs to this day? Personally, I don't know of any better reason to hate someone. If you can't hate them for who and what they are, inside and out, what can you hate them for?

Perhaps its just me, but I don't see anything wrong with hating someone who wants to kill so many people just because of the color of their skin or their religion, even their hair and eye color for crying out loud.
Me either. Calling that discrimination is pathetic. It's self defence & defence of humanity. And just for the record, I'm not in favour of any raping. They'd prolly enjoy it. Just put the fuckers in the hospital. Or 6' under.
[NS]Trans-human
13-12-2005, 09:29
So let me get this straight, it is discrimination to hate someone because they hate people because that are not White-Christians, have tried to eradicate an entire people from the face of the planet, and endorse those beliefs to this day? Personally, I don't know of any better reason to hate someone. If you can't hate them for who and what they are, inside and out, what can you hate them for?

Perhaps its just me, but I don't see anything wrong with hating someone who wants to kill so many people just because of the color of their skin or their religion, even their hair and eye color for crying out loud.

It's not discrimination if you hate someone(s) for hating you. It is discrimination(worse really) when you hurt, mutilate, or kill someone for their beliefs. Actions are what should be punished. People have a right to their opinion no matter how stupid, crazy, or wrong that opinion is.
Non-violent Adults
13-12-2005, 09:31
Trans-human']We should take all racists, homophobes, and all haters of minorities into camps. In these camps they will be forced into hard labor. All prisoners will be assigned a number tatooed on their arm They shall only get a little bread and water. Some shall be experimented upon to further science. Any who fall behind shall be taken to gas chambers. Eventually all shall be sent to the gas chambers. Eventually the final solution to the hater problem will be solved.:rolleyes:That's a really good idea, but I doubt that we'll ever have a strong enough leader with the courage to follow through with such a wonderful and important plan.
West Pacific
13-12-2005, 09:36
Trans-human']It's not discrimination if you hate someone(s) for hating you. It is discrimination(worse really) when you hurt, mutilate, or kill someone for their beliefs. Actions are what should be punished. People have a right to their opinion no matter how stupid, crazy, or wrong that opinion is.

IF we could make an exception I would say that Nazi's would be a shoe in. Unfortunately we do have this freedom of speech here and must put up with this crap.
Non-violent Adults
13-12-2005, 09:39
So let me get this straight, it is discrimination to hate someone because they hate people because that are not White-Christians, have tried to eradicate an entire people from the face of the planet, and endorse those beliefs to this day? Personally, I don't know of any better reason to hate someone. If you can't hate them for who and what they are, inside and out, what can you hate them for?

Perhaps its just me, but I don't see anything wrong with hating someone who wants to kill so many people just because of the color of their skin or their religion, even their hair and eye color for crying out loud.
What the hell are you on? The with Nazis is not discrimination or racism, it's the fact that they murdered millions. You yourself are advocated murder and torture of those who's only "crime" is to have ideas you disagree with. Beyond that, you equate the neo-nazis of today with Hitler's German Nazi Party, as if the former is responsible for the actions of the latter. If you want to hate these folks, go ahead, but do not commit acts of violence against them or advocate that such acts be committed.
Non-violent Adults
13-12-2005, 09:40
Unfortunately we do have this freedom of speech here and must put up with this crap.:upyours:
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 09:41
Trans-human']It's not discrimination if you hate someone(s) for hating you. It is discrimination(worse really) when you hurt, mutilate, or kill someone for their beliefs. Actions are what should be punished. People have a right to their opinion no matter how stupid, crazy, or wrong that opinion is.Take this however you want, but I will hurt any & all neo-nazis I can get my hands on. If I didn't they'd be ruling the town I live in today, and I'd likely be dead somewhere with 5-6 knives in my gut.

Nazis are scum. Some can pass for human, but they aren't. They're scum, and the only language they undeastand is the one they speak. Very few people have ever managed to talk sense to 1 neo-nazi. We have managed to run them out of town.

0 tolerance for murderous cunts. They don't tolerate you. Unless you have a deathwish, you won't tolerate them.

No neo-nazi have ever been killed by an anti-nazi. Several people have been both randomly murdered by neo-nazis, and assasinated by them. People like union leaders, organisers & anti-fascists.

By tolerating neo-nazis, you're effectively aproving of their methods. Fight the fuckers. They don't want peaceful coexistence. They want you dead.
Non Aligned States
13-12-2005, 09:50
*snip*


And this is different from being a fascist how? Or perhaps a Stalinist.
Forfania Gottesleugner
13-12-2005, 10:27
Take this however you want, but I will hurt any & all neo-nazis I can get my hands on. If I didn't they'd be ruling the town I live in today, and I'd likely be dead somewhere with 5-6 knives in my gut.

Nazis are scum. Some can pass for human, but they aren't. They're scum, and the only language they undeastand is the one they speak. Very few people have ever managed to talk sense to 1 neo-nazi. We have managed to run them out of town.

0 tolerance for murderous cunts. They don't tolerate you. Unless you have a deathwish, you won't tolerate them.


Alright, that is your stance.


No neo-nazi have ever been killed by an anti-nazi. Several people have been both randomly murdered by neo-nazis, and assasinated by them. People like union leaders, organisers & anti-fascists.

By tolerating neo-nazis, you're effectively aproving of their methods. Fight the fuckers. They don't want peaceful coexistence. They want you dead.

I really doubt an anti-nazi punk has never killed a nazi punk. That is a pretty general and kind of ridiculous statement. You can't really prove it even if it was true.(and I will admit I can't find a documented case, only a prominant neo-nazi killed over an apparent drug deal) You'd do better without the random generalizations though.

I can't say I wouldn't take the opportunity to beat on neo-nazis if it was presented but for the sake of reason "By tolerating neo-nazis, you're effectively approving of their methods. Fight the fuckers." defies all reason. Using the same methods is the highest level of approval. You could say by tolerating them you are weakening your solidarity against them or something but nothing approves more of violence than violence.
Forfania Gottesleugner
13-12-2005, 10:34
On a sidenote download (only if you own a copy of the song and are just too lazy to go dig it up ;) ) "Die Ärtze - Schrei Nach Liebe"

For non-German speakers that is the normal "band name - song title" format and the lyrics are making fun of neo-nazis and calling them assholes. You can try to look them up in english or in german first then translate them. It is a pretty funny song.
[NS]Trans-human
13-12-2005, 10:36
Take this however you want, but I will hurt any & all neo-nazis I can get my hands on. If I didn't they'd be ruling the town I live in today, and I'd likely be dead somewhere with 5-6 knives in my gut.

Nazis are scum. Some can pass for human, but they aren't. They're scum, and the only language they undeastand is the one they speak. Very few people have ever managed to talk sense to 1 neo-nazi. We have managed to run them out of town.

0 tolerance for murderous cunts. They don't tolerate you. Unless you have a deathwish, you won't tolerate them.

No neo-nazi have ever been killed by an anti-nazi. Several people have been both randomly murdered by neo-nazis, and assasinated by them. People like union leaders, organisers & anti-fascists.

By tolerating neo-nazis, you're effectively aproving of their methods. Fight the fuckers. They don't want peaceful coexistence. They want you dead.

1. Nazis are human even if they're not humane ones.

2. Their actions are what hurt your town, not their beliefs.

3.You seem to aprove of the nazi's methods because you seem to be adopting them.

And this is different from being a fascist how? Or perhaps a Stalinist.

Isn't it obvious. It's because he's on the side of rightiousness, justice, and the American way.:rolleyes:

IF we could make an exception I would say that Nazi's would be a shoe in. Unfortunately we do have this freedom of speech here and must put up with this crap.

Yes, that freedom of speech is a travesty that should be abolished.:rolleyes:
Zexaland
13-12-2005, 10:38
Seeing as how the second largest following of Nazi's outside of Germany in WWII was in America and right now the largest following of Nazi's are also in America I propose the following.

All those claiming to Neo-Nazis, Nazis, or any variation of the sort should be, not shot, no that is far better than they deserve. All males should have their genitals sawed off with mint flavored dental floss, mint flavored is a necessity because I believe that years down the road somebody will find some stupid reason as to why this was symbolic or ironic in some way. Next they would have to endure 7 days of hard labor, sleepless nights, no food and just for the hell of it give them a gay room mate who has been without sex in three years, make that two gay room mates. After this we would put them in a room with two inch thick steel walls, no windows, and one speaker built into the ceiling playing non-stop hip hop music. Oh yeah, I forgot, the would be given a gun and a pillow.

Because I am such a compassionate guy all the women would just be shot. Not even forced into prostitution or anything, just shot.

The children would be spared because they could hopefully still be led to god and not be forced to live a life of bigotry like their "parents" wanted them to. Unfortunately the above punishments shall still have to be used if as an adult the idiot still follows those beliefs.

And just for the heck of it, from this day forth all pinatas shall be in the shape of Hitler.

:rolleyes: Yes, similar tactics worked just fine for Hilter and his ilk...
Harlesburg
13-12-2005, 10:55
Trans-human']We should take all racists, homophobes, and all haters of minorities into camps. In these camps they will be forced into hard labor. All prisoners will be assigned a number tatooed on their arm They shall only get a little bread and water. Some shall be experimented upon to further science. Any who fall behind shall be taken to gas chambers. Eventually all shall be sent to the gas chambers. Eventually the final solution to the hater problem will be solved.:rolleyes:
Yes and we should do the same with all the Ethnics and Funnies and never let either group see each other that way they can't fight.
Rohirric Legend
13-12-2005, 10:55
This is all subjective. One person actually bases their opinion from fictional shows on TV! I want concrete, objective, concise evidence that suggests all nazis are scum and that they believe what you all claim they believe.

Stupid f**king thread really.
Harlesburg
13-12-2005, 11:04
This is all subjective. One person actually bases their opinion from fictional shows on TV! I want concrete, objective, concise evidence that suggests all nazis are scum and that they believe what you all claim they believe.

Stupid f**king thread really.
Very stupid seeing as they talk of God.

Who's god?
The Nazi's had a god and gods.
The Jewish God told them(The Jews) to kill.
The Crusaders were doing Gods work.
Muslim extremists are doing Gods work.
What does Zeus have to say on the matter?
Potaria
13-12-2005, 11:06
I hate Illinois Nazis.

God damn Illinois Nazis...
Palladians
13-12-2005, 11:14
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." I support neo-nazis to that end.
Laerod
13-12-2005, 11:16
This is all subjective. One person actually bases their opinion from fictional shows on TV! I want concrete, objective, concise evidence that suggests all nazis are scum and that they believe what you all claim they believe.

Stupid f**king thread really.I find it rather hard not to consider someone that relativates or approves of the atrocities of the Nazi regime scum.
Harlesburg
13-12-2005, 11:19
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." I support neo-nazis to that end.
He was also a Pro Slaver........
Rohirric Legend
13-12-2005, 11:24
I find it rather hard not to consider someone that relativates or approves of the atrocities of the Nazi regime scum.

Don't you wonder why they approve of the Nazi regime? Theres more to these people than meets the eye and you can bet its society's problem.
Laerod
13-12-2005, 11:33
Don't you wonder why they approve of the Nazi regime? Not really. I've discovered that it's easier to create a lie than to accept an uncomfortable truth. It's found in all political directions. Nazism is just one of the more disgusting ones to approve of.
Theres more to these people than meets the eye and you can bet its society's problem.Agreed on the first one. The ones that run around in suits are thugs in disguise.
Cataduanes
13-12-2005, 14:33
After reading the various posts it seems the US has more of a Nazi problem than in Europe. Does the Nazi movement in the US have ethnic roots? is it the preserve of German-Americans?

In my opinion the boneheads that make up the rank and file of the far right here in Europe are exactly that, Boneheads, they will make no long term impact on european society as a whole. Worse than the nazi punk on the street are those, intellectual or otherwise, who deny the Holocaust ever happened, indeed it is this breed that are the real scum, the bottom line is that the program of mass murder that the Nazi's instituted against not only Jews but also Gypsies, Communists, Homosexuals, Mentally/Physically Handicap, etc is indefensible regardless of your prejudices, murder is murder and cannot be condoned.
[NS]Trans-human
13-12-2005, 14:40
After reading the various posts it seems the US has more of a Nazi problem than in Europe. Does the Nazi movement in the US have ethnic roots? is it the preserve of German-Americans?

The Nazis of Ameria are mostly angry young white men who use Nazi ideology as an excuse to vent their rage. Bunch of dumbasses.
Kinda Sensible people
13-12-2005, 14:44
*Grumbles*

Yeah, they're wrong (not like it's hard to find a non-nazi bigot in the world).

That said, they have the right to an opinion too. You may not like what they have to say, but if you stop them from saying it you're no better than they are.
Laerod
13-12-2005, 14:46
That said, they have the right to an opinion too. You may not like what they have to say, but if you stop them from saying it you're no better than they are.Actually, as long as you don't try to work them to death, randomly kill them, or stick them in concentration camps, you will technically be better than they are (not a nice person, mind you, but better).
Cataduanes
13-12-2005, 14:49
Trans-human']The Nazis of Ameria are mostly angry young white men who use Nazi ideology as an excuse to vent their rage. Bunch of dumbasses.

A problem that is also prevalent in Europe and Australia so it seems...
Dishonorable Scum
13-12-2005, 14:49
Nazis? Not a problem. They're a tiny minority of nutcases. I mean, think about it: They have all of the advantages that our society gives to white males, and yet they've still managed to turn themselves into spectacular failures who have to blame their inability to succeed on others. If they'd just look in a mirror and see who's really responsible for their problems, and then devote their energy to self-improvement, they might get somewhere. As they are, though, they'll just continue to occupy the bottom rungs of the economic ladder, and never have the resources to make serious nuisances of themselves.

:rolleyes:
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 20:43
Let me make it perfectly clear that I do not in any way support limiting anyone's right to free speach. Not even boneheads.

But if Boneheads have a right to exist, then I have a right to defend myself & my community from them. Because if people like me don't do that, we are murdered. That's not just me trying to paint a bleak picture, it's an undeniable fact.

In 1991 the German authorities registered 3,884 instances of violence committed by neo-Nazis. The most notorious episode took place in the city of Mölnn in the state of Schleswig-Holstein on 23 November 1992. Neo-Nazi skinheads threw incendiary bombs into two houses occupied by Turkish families. Three Turks perished, including two children 10 and 14 years of age. The deaths led to a public outcry in Germany and a wave of sympathy with the Turkish victims. In Munich, 350,000 people took part in a public protest against neo-Nazism.

And that's basically a drop in the ocean. Neo-nazis kidnap, rape, assasinate, blow up, firebomb etc. whoever they disagree with. Remember the good old UK Combat 18? That was an armed terrorist organisation, whose goal was to execute political opposition. Why did they stop? Because they got nicked.

Boneheads across the globe still hail them as heroes.

3 weeks ago, a 22 year old antifascist skinhead was dragged into a car, driven out in the countryside & executed in Malaysia by boneheads. Presumably it was punishment for playing in an antifascist Oi! Band.

Last year alone, AntiFa Russia estimates that 5 anti racist punkers were beaten to death by boneheads. Most likely boneheads payed by the Russian police.

Accepting neonazism is asking them to put a bullet in your head. If you can't fight back, speak out against them, and contact the people who can fight back.

I don't normally advocate violence, but I don't see others here show any reservations about hunting down Mulsim terrorists. Apart from the budget, I can't see any difference between the two. Sure, boneheads don't kill as many. However, if it's just violence you look at, boneheads lead by miles.

I don't really see any great need for me to provide extensive sources for just how big a menace those wankers are. You should be more than able to do so yourselves. But I suppose I could waste an hour or two on it if you really want.
Free Soviets
13-12-2005, 21:01
Nazis? Not a problem. They're a tiny minority of nutcases.

they also form the most dangerous and organized terrorist groups in the u.s.
Freudotopia
13-12-2005, 21:03
Seeing as how the second largest following of Nazi's outside of Germany in WWII was in America and right now the largest following of Nazi's are also in America I propose the following.

All those claiming to Neo-Nazis, Nazis, or any variation of the sort should be, not shot, no that is far better than they deserve. All males should have their genitals sawed off with mint flavored dental floss, mint flavored is a necessity because I believe that years down the road somebody will find some stupid reason as to why this was symbolic or ironic in some way. Next they would have to endure 7 days of hard labor, sleepless nights, no food and just for the hell of it give them a gay room mate who has been without sex in three years, make that two gay room mates. After this we would put them in a room with two inch thick steel walls, no windows, and one speaker built into the ceiling playing non-stop hip hop music. Oh yeah, I forgot, the would be given a gun and a pillow.

Because I am such a compassionate guy all the women would just be shot. Not even forced into prostitution or anything, just shot.

The children would be spared because they could hopefully still be led to good and not be forced to live a life of bigotry like their "parents" wanted them to. Unfortunately the above punishments shall still have to be used if as an adult the idiot still follows those beliefs.

And just for the heck of it, from this day forth all pinatas shall be in the shape of Hitler.

Edit: Similized World(sp?) pointed out an important typo to me, it said "god" when I meant "good". Thank you. (Please remember, I wrote this in approx. three minutes at 2am, wasn't all there if you know what I mean. I actually kind of forgot that I actually posted this too, thought I deleted it. :S )

I hit a Nazi with a baseball bat once. He exploded. I ran his component parts over with a Buick.
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 21:07
they also form the most dangerous and organized terrorist groups in the u.s.
Not just there either. It's a global terrorist network.
Heavenly Sex
13-12-2005, 21:17
Seeing as how the second largest following of Nazi's outside of Germany in WWII was in America and right now the largest following of Nazi's are also in America I propose the following.

All those claiming to Neo-Nazis, Nazis, or any variation of the sort should be, not shot, no that is far better than they deserve. All males should have their genitals sawed off with mint flavored dental floss, mint flavored is a necessity because I believe that years down the road somebody will find some stupid reason as to why this was symbolic or ironic in some way. Next they would have to endure 7 days of hard labor, sleepless nights, no food and just for the hell of it give them a gay room mate who has been without sex in three years, make that two gay room mates. After this we would put them in a room with two inch thick steel walls, no windows, and one speaker built into the ceiling playing non-stop hip hop music. Oh yeah, I forgot, the would be given a gun and a pillow.
Like the dental floss bit :D
Their room mates should not only gay, the also need to be black Jews for full effect! :D

I already outlawed them with an issue, but I wished there was an option to do this to them (or at least have them round up :sniper: )

Because I am such a compassionate guy all the women would just be shot. Not even forced into prostitution or anything, just shot.Nah... the women should, as long as they still look half-way decent, bound and gagged and then chained to a lamppost in Harlem or the likes, where they can do with them whatever they want :D
DHomme
13-12-2005, 21:26
You're as bad as they are! everyone has the right to free speech! we live in a democratic society where everybody has the right to assemble, even if they do encourage racially aggravated assaults against already oppressed minorities!

[/liberal mode]

Seriously though. I think we should just beat them into a bloody pulp any time they try to organise.
Free Soviets
13-12-2005, 21:29
Not just there either. It's a global terrorist network.

i will never understand why the nazis aren't taken more seriously here. they are the ones who keep getting caught with weapons of mass destruction and assassinating government officials.
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 21:35
i will never understand why the nazis aren't taken more seriously here. they are the ones who keep getting caught with weapons of mass destruction and assassinating government officials.Again, it's the same everywhere else.

My personal theory is that it's because there's an overrepresentation of neo-nazists in our countries police forces. I can't see how the media wouldn't be all up in arms about it if the police didn't cover their arses.

Just look at this thread, for example. Even people who will violently oppose boneheads, believe they're a bunch of disorganised braindead twats. That's not even remotely true in real life.
The stereotype is really working to their advantage here.. Arse.
Corrosades
13-12-2005, 21:39
The Nazi's caused September 11th. It's true.
Honestly, I think the only way to fix a Nazi is through education, unless you want to kill them. Kidnapping their children would be, essentially, education. I don't think it's good, though. Many of them are taught their racist views through their parents. How this should be achieved, I am unsure.
Free Soviets
13-12-2005, 21:42
they are the ones who keep getting caught with weapons of mass destruction

as david neiwert put it (http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2003_11_30_dneiwert_archive.html#107049902794836725), "we have now found more weapons of mass destruction in Texas, in the hands of domestic terrorists, than we have in Saddam Hussein's Iraq."
Tekania
13-12-2005, 21:46
-snip-

Translation provided by Tom Lehrer

"I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another, and I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings; and I HATE people like that...."
Free Soviets
13-12-2005, 21:47
My personal theory is that it's because there's an overrepresentation of neo-nazists in our countries police forces.

i suspect the same.

and we know it to be the case in italy, at least.

i get the feeling that the mainstream political right in america is cozying up to them these days too. they certainly embraced their 'minutemen project' loudly enough.
Franberry
13-12-2005, 21:53
Ok, two numbers come to mind, 250,000 and 1,000,000. I want to say that 1,000,000 was the number of Nazi's in the US prior to WWII and 250,000 is the number of "neo-nazis" currently registered in the US. (Yes, they have their own political party here.)

I think these days Brazil or Argentina might have more Nazis but I doubt it.

It is one of those things that go along with freedom of speech, we have to put up with this shit also.

I don't know about brazil

But in Argentina there are very little (as you would find in every country)
Kuhnstonia
13-12-2005, 21:54
I kinda doubt both of these statements.. the GAB (German-American Bund) was never a very big movement prior to WWII, and it died once we declared war on Germany, instantly.. it's founder, Fritz Kuhn was imprisoned for 5 years in Texas as a precaution, if I remember correctly. We still have Nazis today, but I would doubt that we have very many, and probably fewer than the few they still have in Germany.
My last name is Kuhn and i have relatives that used to live in New York, and i've never met them so i could be a relation, i hate nazis but they have good racist jokes

PS: i share the jokes with my hispanic,black, and jewish friend
PSS: why are some people offended by racist jokes?
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 21:56
The Nazi's caused September 11th. It's true.
Honestly, I think the only way to fix a Nazi is through education, unless you want to kill them. Kidnapping their children would be, essentially, education. I don't think it's good, though. Many of them are taught their racist views through their parents. How this should be achieved, I am unsure.Actually, I'm not sure I buy that the majority of these cunts just carry on a tradition. From what I know from personal experience, boneheads are usually people who somehow feel marginalised & alienated by the society they see. Neo-nazism is a brilliant excuse for 'getting even' because it presents such a pretty & simplistic world veiw.

I'm sure many neo-nazi organisations would love to be able to take credit for 9/11. Not publicly, mind you, because that would present neo-nazism as an enemy, instead of protection against a percieved enemy.

Whatever, just look up any source of neo-nazi information online, and you'll quickly realize that they are indeed very organised. I seriously doubt any Muslim terrorist network has their level of organisation in the western hemisphere, for example.
Southern Aggression
13-12-2005, 22:02
In America, i could be a Jew-Hating, hairless, skin-head with pompom Neo-Nazi because it is my right to choose, as long as i dont infringe on other peoples rights.

Nazis believe that they should be the only thoughts allowed.
But AS long as they do not infringe the rights of others, they DO have the right to choose in America.

So, in short, you want to kill (or mint julip there nuts) because of there beliefs....

Sounds like sooomeeeone is a lil nazi themselves.

So UNTIL they go thru a Court Case, a Case deemed Legal
UNTIL they hear the "Guilty" verdit
then they have rights like everyone else here.

SO, go away you nazis
European Nationalists
13-12-2005, 22:03
[QUOTE=West Pacific]Seeing as how the second largest following of Nazi's outside of Germany in WWII was in America and right now the largest following of Nazi's are also in America I propose the following.

All those claiming to Neo-Nazis, Nazis, or any variation of the sort should be, not shot, no that is far better than they deserve. All males should have their genitals sawed off with mint flavored dental floss, mint flavored is a necessity because I believe that years down the road somebody will find some stupid reason as to why this was symbolic or ironic in some way. Next they would have to endure 7 days of hard labor, sleepless nights, no food and just for the hell of it give them a gay room mate who has been without sex in three years, make that two gay room mates. After this we would put them in a room with two inch thick steel walls, no windows, and one speaker built into the ceiling playing non-stop hip hop music. Oh yeah, I forgot, the would be given a gun and a pillow.


Reply

Are you fucking kidding me?
For your imformation the nationalist socialist movement is not about opression or discrimination. It is about love and loyalty. Love of your friends, family, culture, country and race. It may me unfair to some minority assholes, but it is their fault for coming to the country in the first place. You are a moron and I bet if you went through what the german people went through after WW1 you would yourself agree with what they did. I would also like to remind you that what you say in this passage is a far worse horror than anything that the nazis even dreamt of doing. Also read up on what happened to palestine during worl war 2. YOu'll find that they accepted jewish refugees, hundreds and thousands of them. After the war however the jews took the palestinian land and opressed them. Well if they behaved like that maybe they deserved what they got. Also if you look at the Jewish religion closely you will find that it is the oldest form of nazism on earth! So the problem is really them. You are a racist asshole. I have no problem with the jews, i just don't wish to be exploited by them. Oh and has it dawned on you liberal brain that you are proposing political persecution and genocide?
European Nationalists
13-12-2005, 22:09
Oh and geuss what!
Israeli law states that a jew cannot marry a non-jew
humm, now that's really not facist at all.
All people have the right to protect their heritage, and culture and race.
I beg every intellegent european person out there to consider the nationalist socialist movement. You can learn more at www.davidduke.com
Oh and persecuting nationalists is anti american! because of a little thing called the freedom of speech!
And another thing diversity is a curse on a society, just look at paris and london!
You liberals disgust me, you are traitors to you race! It is you who should be persecuted.
Southern Aggression
13-12-2005, 22:11
[QUOTE=West Pacific]Seeing as how the second largest following of Nazi's outside of Germany in WWII was in America and right now the largest following of Nazi's are also in America I propose the following.

All those claiming to Neo-Nazis, Nazis, or any variation of the sort should be, not shot, no that is far better than they deserve. All males should have their genitals sawed off with mint flavored dental floss, mint flavored is a necessity because I believe that years down the road somebody will find some stupid reason as to why this was symbolic or ironic in some way. Next they would have to endure 7 days of hard labor, sleepless nights, no food and just for the hell of it give them a gay room mate who has been without sex in three years, make that two gay room mates. After this we would put them in a room with two inch thick steel walls, no windows, and one speaker built into the ceiling playing non-stop hip hop music. Oh yeah, I forgot, the would be given a gun and a pillow.


Reply

Are you fucking kidding me?
For your imformation the nationalist socialist movement is not about opression or discrimination. It is about love and loyalty. Love of your friends, family, culture, country and race. It may me unfair to some minority assholes, but it is their fault for coming to the country in the first place. You are a moron and I bet if you went through what the german people went through after WW1 you would yourself agree with what they did. I would also like to remind you that what you say in this passage is a far worse horror than anything that the nazis even dreamt of doing. Also read up on what happened to palestine during worl war 2. YOu'll find that they accepted jewish refugees, hundreds and thousands of them. After the war however the jews took the palestinian land and opressed them. Well if they behaved like that maybe they deserved what they got. Also if you look at the Jewish religion closely you will find that it is the oldest form of nazism on earth! So the problem is really them. You are a racist asshole. I have no problem with the jews, i just don't wish to be exploited by them. Oh and has it dawned on you liberal brain that you are proposing political persecution and genocide?


More like the rest of the world gave Israel land out of Palestine. It was a decision by other countries.

But i think its cool, because Israel made some of the coolest shit ever.

Desert Eagle anyone? Reactive tank armor? That armor, still used today, probably has saved the lifes of hundreds upon hundreds.

But then again, this is off topic
Southern Aggression
13-12-2005, 22:13
Oh and geuss what!
Israeli law states that a jew cannot marry a non-jew
humm, now that's really not facist at all.
All people have the right to protect their heritage, and culture and race.
I beg every intellegent person european out there to consider the nationalist socialist movement learn more at www.davidduke.com
Oh and persecuting nationalists is anti american! Because of the freedom of speech!
And another thing diversity is a curse on a society, just look at paris and london!
You liberals disgust me, you are traitors to you race! It is you who should be persecuted.


How could you compare this to France? They suck anyway!:p
... and london is good, just gun control laws ... eeewww
Skinny87
13-12-2005, 22:15
[QUOTE=West Pacific]Seeing as how the second largest following of Nazi's outside of Germany in WWII was in America and right now the largest following of Nazi's are also in America I propose the following.

All those claiming to Neo-Nazis, Nazis, or any variation of the sort should be, not shot, no that is far better than they deserve. All males should have their genitals sawed off with mint flavored dental floss, mint flavored is a necessity because I believe that years down the road somebody will find some stupid reason as to why this was symbolic or ironic in some way. Next they would have to endure 7 days of hard labor, sleepless nights, no food and just for the hell of it give them a gay room mate who has been without sex in three years, make that two gay room mates. After this we would put them in a room with two inch thick steel walls, no windows, and one speaker built into the ceiling playing non-stop hip hop music. Oh yeah, I forgot, the would be given a gun and a pillow.


Reply

Are you fucking kidding me?
For your imformation the nationalist socialist movement is not about opression or discrimination. It is about love and loyalty. Love of your friends, family, culture, country and race. It may me unfair to some minority assholes, but it is their fault for coming to the country in the first place. You are a moron and I bet if you went through what the german people went through after WW1 you would yourself agree with what they did. I would also like to remind you that what you say in this passage is a far worse horror than anything that the nazis even dreamt of doing. Also read up on what happened to palestine during worl war 2. YOu'll find that they accepted jewish refugees, hundreds and thousands of them. After the war however the jews took the palestinian land and opressed them. Well if they behaved like that maybe they deserved what they got. Also if you look at the Jewish religion closely you will find that it is the oldest form of nazism on earth! So the problem is really them. You are a racist asshole. I have no problem with the jews, i just don't wish to be exploited by them. Oh and has it dawned on you liberal brain that you are proposing political persecution and genocide?

I'm going to guess you're one of them, then. Well, I shan't comment on that, because I can't without getting banned really. However, I doubt the Nazi movement is about love and family - and it certainly is for oppression and hatred. You assert that certain minorities should not go to a country if Nazi scum are there - why do nyou have the right to say where someone relocates to? You don't, thats all there is to say.

Oh, and whatever your ramblings about the after-effects of Versaille were, that gives absolutely no defence for what happened in Germany under the Nazis - none what so ever.
KPion
13-12-2005, 22:20
So you guys think Neo-Nazis caused Sept. 11th?

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It was clearly Isreal that oppressed the Muslims so much that they felt the need to resort to extremes. I believe Neo-Nazi organisations are needed to maintain America's political balance, otherwise there would be a dictatorship of Michael Moore-type idiots already.
Southern Aggression
13-12-2005, 22:23
Kpion, that is the most retarded answer i have seen.
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 22:24
Oh and geuss what!
Israeli law states that a jew cannot marry a non-jew
humm, now that's really not facist at all.
All people have the right to protect their heritage, and culture and race.
I beg every intellegent person european out there to consider the nationalist socialist movement learn more at www.davidduke.com
Oh and persecuting nationalists is anti american! Because of the freedom of speech!
And another thing diversity is a curse on a society, just look at paris and london!
You liberals disgust me, you are traitors to you race! It is you who should be persecuted.Spread your 'message' all you want. We'll run you out of town whenever you show yourself. Make no mistake, I can be every bit as big violent scumbag as you.

And in the interest of some free information, why don't you check out
This (http://www.holocaust-education.dk/eftertid/holocaustbenaegtelse.asp)
And this (http://library.smc.edu/research/topics/neo_nazism.htm)
And this. (http://www.nizkor.org/)

Because the onesided lies & prejudice you present really isn't relevant for life on planet Earth.
The Similized world
13-12-2005, 22:26
So you guys think Neo-Nazis caused Sept. 11th?Do you actually read anything before you reply?

One made a sarcastic statement about it. Your post prolly has come the closest to claiming boneheads were responsible.


... Clown
Southern Aggression
13-12-2005, 22:29
[QUOTE=European Nationalists]

I'm going to guess you're one of them, then. Well, I shan't comment on that, because I can't without getting banned really. However, I doubt the Nazi movement is about love and family - and it certainly is for oppression and hatred. You assert that certain minorities should not go to a country if Nazi scum are there - why do nyou have the right to say where someone relocates to? You don't, thats all there is to say.

Oh, and whatever your ramblings about the after-effects of Versaille were, that gives absolutely no defence for what happened in Germany under the Nazis - none what so ever.


the NSDAP, Nazies, and facism in general offers solutions for problems, problems that were great in abbundance during the Weimar Republic!
Dehny
13-12-2005, 22:41
if you do anything against the Nazis, youll be just as bad as them as theyd do it to u given a chance.


i dont see how anyone who believes in Democracy could possibly want to ban the Nazis
Saint Ash
13-12-2005, 22:43
As much as I dispise Nazisim, acting in such ways towards people who are nazi's would make you no better than them. People who hold such extreme hatred towards minorities should not be taken seriously and laughed at to make them and their veiws seem insignificant.
Aspero
13-12-2005, 22:48
Look, you're a sick bastard. Are you so hurt and deprived of love inside you have to lash out? Yes, Nazi's have done terrible things and yes, i dont agree with some of their beliefs, but THATS NO REASON TO BRUTALLY MASSACRE THEM IN A FULL-SCALE GENOCIDE! Your no better than them! Your a damn hypocrite!

*please excuse me while I barf in response to this*

You're the Nazi! You're no better than Adolf Hitler himself. Neo-Nazi's and Nazi's they may be, but they're still in America where we have freedoms to protect them

can you say FREEDOM?

can you say AMERICA?

Thats what America is about.....I find it personally insulting that you have to plauge the internet with your distasteful comment. If anyhting you're a disgrace to yourself, your family, and America itself.
Swallow your Poison
13-12-2005, 23:10
Personally, I don't care how Nazi or non-Nazi anybody is. If somebody tries to prevent me from doing as I please, then I'll be magnanimous enough to dislike them equally whether they are or aren't Nazis.
Europa Maxima
13-12-2005, 23:12
Great, I can see this boiling down to a thread of a bunch of "liberals" who want to gas all those who affiliate themselves with the Nazism. Gee, how un-Nazi like. :rolleyes:
Voxio
14-12-2005, 03:05
[QUOTE=West Pacific][snip]QUOTE]
I am going to have to agree with you. No matter how much us Fascists here in America hate nazis, killing them would make yourself as bad as those assholes.

Lets not forget that people have the right to free speech..let them speak their mind as long as they don't put their opinions into practice.