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Well looks as if they figured out the obvious. This is on the heals of another anti-Syrian opponent. A top newspaper magnet of Lebanon was killed today by a car bomb. So when is this crap going to stop. should Syria be taken out over this?

http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

Well looks as if they figured out the obvious. This is on the heals of another anti-Syrian opponent. A top newspaper magnet of Lebanon was killed today by a car bomb. So when is this crap going to stop. should Syria be taken out over this?

http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage


Oh-No. We could never consider anything like that. We have to make sure france and germany think its a good idea first. And we wouldnt want to hurt their economies either.:p

cuz france and germany <3 us so much, right?

Well looks as if they figured out the obvious. This is on the heals of another anti-Syrian opponent. A top newspaper magnet of Lebanon was killed today by a car bomb. So when is this crap going to stop. should Syria be taken out over this?

http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
So are you thinking that either Syria or Lebanon is interested suddenly in changing the way they've been doing things for ... how long now? Since inception, almost?

So are you thinking that either Syria or Lebanon is interested suddenly in changing the way they've been doing things for ... how long now? Since inception, almost?
The Lebanese people seem to be very interested in suddenly changing. As evidenced by their outrage over the assassinations - outrage that forced the Syrians to move their military out of Lebanon.

Syria doesn't seem to be interested in changing, though. They view Lebanon as more of Syria.

The only way you'll permanently change Syria is to thoroughly destroy its government, military, civilian infrastructure, and hunt down its secret police.

...and hunt down its secret police.
And where's the CIA going to get its information from then?

As for the German and French economies...what are you talking about again?

And where's the CIA going to get its information from then?

As for the German and French economies...what are you talking about again?

I wasn't addressing the Germans and the French.

I think the time of any usefulness of Syrian intelligence cooperation is over.

So are you thinking that either Syria or Lebanon is interested suddenly in changing the way they've been doing things for ... how long now? Since inception, almost?

So just do nothing and don't try to end the chain of violence? I personally would like this to be settled. Lebanon for one has not always been a violent place. In a not to distant past it was the jewel of the middle east.

The Lebanese people seem to be very interested in suddenly changing. As evidenced by their outrage over the assassinations - outrage that forced the Syrians to move their military out of Lebanon.

Syria doesn't seem to be interested in changing, though. They view Lebanon as more of Syria.

The only way you'll permanently change Syria is to thoroughly destroy its government, military, civilian infrastructure, and hunt down its secret police.

Pardon!?!? in the same way the US has expertly shattered Iraq's cohesion, to the point that it seems likely to break up into 3 seperate nations upon withdrawal of US/UK troops..surely an end to bloodshed is commenable but destroying the government, military, civilian infrastructure entails a military operation that would cause much suffering, this surely is not how we in the west wish to do business unlees we have now changed, in which case then Israel should suffer similar treatment for the assasinations it has commited against the PLO since the 60's (before the era of suicide bombings) or the violence it has perpetrated against the Palestinian civilians since the 50's.

Oh-No. We could never consider anything like that. We have to make sure france and germany think its a good idea first. And we wouldnt want to hurt their economies either.:p

Because that's what we did when we invaded Iraq, right?

Pardon!?!? in the same way the US has expertly shattered Iraq's cohesion, to the point that it seems likely to break up into 3 seperate nations upon withdrawal of US/UK troops..surely an end to bloodshed is commenable but destroying the government, military, civilian infrastructure entails a military operation that would cause much suffering, this surely is not how we in the west wish to do business unlees we have now changed, in which case then Israel should suffer similar treatment for the assasinations it has commited against the PLO since the 60's (before the era of suicide bombings) or the violence it has perpetrated against the Palestinian civilians since the 50's.

The Israelis don't do it to people we like (at least not since the USS Liberty).

oh i see, one rule for us and one rule for them...

oh i see, one rule for us and one rule for them...
Isn't that Realpolitik?

yeah of course, but it is still unfair.

yeah of course, but it is still unfair.
Only a stupid nation fails consistently to act in its own interest.

Only a stupid nation fails consistently to act in its own interest.
Don't get me wrong - it doesn't mean that just because a nation does the right thing to advance its own interests (or even the wrong thing) that somehow they are morally right.

Claims of morality are useful only for propaganda purposes.

So just do nothing and don't try to end the chain of violence? I personally would like this to be settled. Lebanon for one has not always been a violent place. In a not to distant past it was the jewel of the middle east.
Good of you to go off about something i neither said nor implied.
Well, not good, but consistent.
I asked specifically along what lines of thought you were engaged.
I said nothing about me agreeing OR disagreeing.with the idea that people might get their heads out of their arses and learn to get along. I didn't say do nothing. I almost *never* say to do nothing, unless i'm being facetious or derisive.
I was asking a question to put your question in check.

I should also add that i've found a post i agree with Kimchi about ....
Claims of morality are useful only for propaganda purposes.