NationStates Jolt Archive


Least Favorite CIVILIZED NATION

New-Lexington
13-12-2005, 02:14
Which one:
Kryozerkia
13-12-2005, 02:15
I'd say America, but I'm not going to go... aw screw it!
Genzilla
13-12-2005, 02:19
Iran.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-12-2005, 02:21
To sum up: Saudi Arabia. Culture Shock. No TP. :)
-Magdha-
13-12-2005, 02:21
Iran.

The thread starter said civilized nation.
The Damned People
13-12-2005, 02:21
Arbitrary definition of civilized?
Vegas-Rex
13-12-2005, 02:22
The thread starter said civilized nation.

And the bastion of civilization for most of the last few millennia isn't civilized?
Bolol
13-12-2005, 02:23
Saudi Arabia. They have no ideals of human rights and political liberty, and yet our nation cow-tows at their feet.

Fuck that yo...
Nova Speculum
13-12-2005, 02:23
Iran is a civilized nation. You would have been better off saying "Western Civilised".

I voted America, mainly because the Bush administration lies through its teeth (and I dont like American tourists) but it was a tough call between America and France.

EDIT: And before someone deigns to point out that there are Eastern nations on there too, I said Western since the majority of the list is made up of nations which would be considered "Western" (USA, France etc, and, to a lesser extent, one could argue that Japan was more of a Western Civilisation, though thats for another topic).
Neu Leonstein
13-12-2005, 02:24
I see Israel isn't civilised either...:p

I'd say the DPRK.
Skibereen
13-12-2005, 02:30
I picked 'other' because for me it is really a toss up--I have some distaste for things Britain has done, The United States, Japan, and Germany--so really I dont dislike any other nations as much as those(and that really isnt that much anyway).

China is kind of fecked--but we are talking personal opinion and the situation there isnt first in my mind.

I guess i will list my dislikes--

The US fecked and continues to Feck the Native America(I dont care about debating its my opinion.) I still love her though.

England--fecked the Irish--with a big shite eating grin, and somehow ignorant twits find ways to validate this. Of course the world wouldnt be waht it is today without the Great Empire, I do give respect where it is due.

Japan well, they grifted by on atrocites that had German SS officers writting back to the good 'Ol Furer to ask for him to petition the Japanese to be more even handed--SS asking for kindness--how fecking mean do you have to be for that?!

Germany--well more precisely the Nazis(I know there is a distinction nobody get all crazy on me) pick up any history book and read a few chapters on the 20th century--it'll be in there(unlike what the Japanese did to the Chinese).


That being said I dont have a particular HATE for any--beside my own administration at the moment, and since I live here I am entitled to.
These are just my least favorites--and truth be told that is only marginal.

I dont really have real dislike for anyone nation just because....I mean whats the point?

Its like hating Americans because of Geogre Bush, or hating Afghanis because of the Taliban. It isnt really logical, but whaterver.
Eyster
13-12-2005, 02:38
France here dawg, they suck!
Neu Leonstein
13-12-2005, 02:56
Germany--well more precisely the Nazis(I know there is a distinction nobody get all crazy on me) pick up any history book and read a few chapters on the 20th century--it'll be in there(unlike what the Japanese did to the Chinese).
I just kinda feel the urge to inform you that that was a long time ago and pretty much everyone involved is dead.
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 03:27
I just kinda feel the urge to inform you that that was a long time ago and pretty much everyone involved is dead.

Agreed, for once! I cant stand when people bring up Germany's Nazi past in relation to present day Germany and more than I can when people bring up Slave owning America in relation to present day America.

There are different governments in place now.

There are different people living now.

There are different views and feelings, as shown by Neo Leonstein, a German.

Could people please stop with this, its hard enough for Germany and its people to get over their past without the rest of their world constantly reminding them of a BRIEF period in German history. Let is rest, there is a new world out there now, and Nazi Germany has no part in it.
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 03:43
*In Napolean Dynamites voice* "God, freaking idiots."
Colodia
13-12-2005, 03:45
I must say France for their actions against the Muslim headress. I mean, seriously.
Pepe Dominguez
13-12-2005, 03:53
France. Why the hell not.. just not a fan's all.
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 03:53
I must say France for their actions against the Muslim headress. I mean, seriously.

I support their actions against Muslim headress, as do I support Denmarks actions against Muslim headress.
Harmonia Mortis
13-12-2005, 03:54
Ummm...North Korea?
The South Islands
13-12-2005, 03:55
I support their actions against Muslim headress, as do I support Denmarks actions against Muslim headress.

Why?
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 04:04
Why?

Because it will show muslims that if they want to leave their old theocratic countries and move to the west, they must adopt the western ideas and accept their place in a western society. If they cant deal with that, then they can move right back to their sand castle in the middle east.

Or the governments translation of what I just said into whatever lame ass excuse they used to discourage Islam from their countries. That works too.
Colodia
13-12-2005, 04:05
Because it will show muslims that if they want to leave their old theocratic countries and move to the west, they must adopt the western ideas and accept their place in a western society. If they cant deal with that, then they can move right back to their sand castle in the middle east.
If France is as anti-cultured as you want it to be, then it so deserves every bit of bashing it gets.
New-Lexington
13-12-2005, 04:07
is there anything good in italy? they are backstabbing assholes
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 04:08
then it so deserves every bit of bashing it gets.

No arguement there:D
Colodia
13-12-2005, 04:08
is there anything good in italy? they are backstabbing assholes
Of all the nationalities to flame you pick Italy?
New-Lexington
13-12-2005, 04:08
Ummm...North Korea?
ummmmmmmmmmmm civilized
Kanabia
13-12-2005, 04:10
Eh? "Civilised nation"?
The South Islands
13-12-2005, 04:10
I declare this thread


THE WORST THREAD EVER

Have a nice day.
New-Lexington
13-12-2005, 04:11
Of all the nationalities to flame you pick Italy?
yes.. the backstabbing part is from ww2 when hitler had france at its knees mussolni sent 32 divisions and was anhilated by 8 FRENCH divisions they had to use poison gas and machine guns against ethiopia's spearmen... they did beat albania though.... got cut up in greece costing hitler valuable time versus the russians....
Colodia
13-12-2005, 04:11
I declare this thread


THE WORST THREAD EVER

Have a nice day.
Yeah seriously. I wouldn't have minded it if it had a little less flamebait.
Colodia
13-12-2005, 04:12
yes.. the backstabbing part is from ww2 when hitler had france at its knees mussolni sent 32 divisions and was anhilated by 8 FRENCH divisions they had to use poison gas and machine guns against ethiopia's spearmen... they did beat albania though.... got cut up in greece costing hitler valuable time versus the russians....
*checks calendar*

Okay I'm just making sure that I was being the rational one and living in the 21st century. Continue please.
New-Lexington
13-12-2005, 04:13
I declare this thread


THE WORST THREAD EVER

Have a nice day.
hey its my 1st threadie cut me some slack
N Y C
13-12-2005, 04:19
It is a bad thread. It is quite racist and biased to say only a few count as "civilized". Civilized and Barbarian do not exist, there are only different cultures, all of which should be tolerated and respected.
The South Islands
13-12-2005, 04:21
hey its my 1st threadie cut me some slack

Well, it sucks.

Just being blunt here. It sucks more than Monica Lewinsky at the Democratic National Convention.
Daistallia 2104
13-12-2005, 04:22
I declare this thread


THE WORST THREAD EVER

Have a nice day.

Nope. It doesn't have Goatse or Tubgirl. The worst threads ever featured those. Fortunately they seem to have gone out of style.

:::wanders away slightly concerned that someone will now post one of those to this thread just to make it into the worst thread ever runoffs:::
Daistallia 2104
13-12-2005, 04:29
It is a bad thread. It is quite racist and biased to say only a few count as "civilized". Civilized and Barbarian do not exist, there are only different cultures, all of which should be tolerated and respected.

Of course that all depends on the definition of "civilized" you use. By the standard modern definition, exactly so. By the definition of the Ancient Greeks (from which the concept comes from, but has changed dramatically), I'd be hard pressed to say there are any civilized states anywhere. Certainly non of them are on the poll. ;)
Lacadaemon
13-12-2005, 04:33
It is a bad thread. It is quite racist and biased to say only a few count as "civilized". Civilized and Barbarian do not exist, there are only different cultures, all of which should be tolerated and respected.

Please. That's palpably not true. If it were, we wouldn't have jus cogens international norms.
The South Islands
13-12-2005, 04:33
Nope. It doesn't have Goatse or Tubgirl. The worst threads ever featured those. Fortunately they seem to have gone out of style.

:::wanders away slightly concerned that someone will now post one of those to this thread just to make it into the worst thread ever runoffs:::
No, this is worse.
GhostEmperor
13-12-2005, 04:49
USA. As a Liberal American (as in Anarcho-syndicalism Liberal born in the USA, not F***ing stupid Neo-Liberal born in the USA), I am utterly disgusted at what "my" nation has become. The leaders are no longer serving the interests of the people (not that they ever really were, but we're further away than we've ever been); now, they just want to rape the people's rights and allow mega-corporations to do whatever they please. It's pathetic what the USA has become... I completely understand why terrorists hate the USA (not that I condone terrorist attacks; on the contrary, I despise the terrorists for using these tactics).
Megaloria
13-12-2005, 04:53
Those goddamn Canadians.
Gartref
13-12-2005, 05:28
Italy is my least favorite. They still haven't apologized to the Gauls for their brutal policies in the first century BC.
Yingzhou
13-12-2005, 05:35
Republik Indonesia
Antikythera
13-12-2005, 05:41
right now iam really disliking England, the only reason that i dont like it... i cant live there:(
The Chinese Republics
13-12-2005, 05:46
Those goddamn Canadians.Too bad Canada is not on the list. :p
Skibereen
13-12-2005, 07:22
I just kinda feel the urge to inform you that that was a long time ago and pretty much everyone involved is dead.
Why not say the same thing about Japan and the Chinese? They not good enough to mention? The Raping of the Native Americans?--that is pretty much over. The English and the Irish?
Oh wait your a german-- so of course its only the them that I shouldnt be put-off about.
Just pretend it didnt happen I suppose? Its been awhile forget about it?
The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.


Claining that a nations past has nothing to do with its present is absurd.
National Idetity.

Just like people wanting to ignore American Slave practices or Native Genocide....funny its always Germans and White people.
Korrithor
13-12-2005, 07:26
I'm having deja vu. Wasn't there just a thread about this?
Skibereen
13-12-2005, 07:28
Because it will show muslims that if they want to leave their old theocratic countries and move to the west, they must adopt the western ideas and accept their place in a western society. If they cant deal with that, then they can move right back to their sand castle in the middle east.

Or the governments translation of what I just said into whatever lame ass excuse they used to discourage Islam from their countries. That works too.
No your not a racist.
Barvinia
13-12-2005, 09:16
Which one:


No civilized nations left on the planet to choose from! :p
Ahlu Sunnah
13-12-2005, 09:35
Australia:D
the fact that they're not even in the list shows how unclivilised this nation is.:rolleyes:
Delator
13-12-2005, 10:10
"There's only two things I hate...intolerance...and the Dutch!"

:p
Shasoria
13-12-2005, 10:15
I chose other, cause there wasn't an option for New-Lexington's nation.

:p
Harlesburg
13-12-2005, 10:45
I'd say America, but I'm not going to go... aw screw it!
You are a liar.:eek:



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I voted China but i woulsn't cal them civilized after all they are not civilized.
Amtray
13-12-2005, 11:03
Burma, indoneesia, zimbabwe,somalia,etheopia.seirea leone, rwanda...The list is endless.:rolleyes:
Valdania
13-12-2005, 11:14
Why are Mexico, China and Italy in this list above The Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Israel, New Zealand, Canada etc?
Taverham high
13-12-2005, 11:57
other: i do not think any nations are civilised. possibly the scandinavian countries, but they tend to keep themsleves to themselves.
Pantycellen
13-12-2005, 12:01
I voted for the USA

though I wouldn't call it civilised
Heron-Marked Warriors
13-12-2005, 12:35
"There's only two things I hate...intolerance...and the Dutch!"

:p

:D

I vote USA because I like jumping on bandwagons!! And when I fall off and hit my head, it doesn't matter because there's nothing in there anyway!!
Europa Maxima
13-12-2005, 12:54
Because it will show muslims that if they want to leave their old theocratic countries and move to the west, they must adopt the western ideas and accept their place in a western society. If they cant deal with that, then they can move right back to their sand castle in the middle east.

Or the governments translation of what I just said into whatever lame ass excuse they used to discourage Islam from their countries. That works too.
Yes, I must agree with you here. You either love a country or leave it. If they want to keep their "traditions" and so on they can do so in their own countries without poisoning our own ones. This is hardly racist, so anyone who is so weak-minded as to brand it as such must wake up. Foreigners refusing to integrate into a society breeds racism, not vice-versa. Does anyone here honestly think that if Afro-Americans did not integrate in the USA that they would be tolerated?...Please :rolleyes: Yet they have integrated, and are becoming all the more integrated all the time, to their credit I may add.

You have the option of living in a country, or leaving it. Its not so difficult as it used to be.

As for which I dislike most, I would say the USA, then China and then the arab nations. France, Germany, the UK, Japan and so on are hardly, by contrast, would be some of my favourites.
Andaras Prime
13-12-2005, 12:55
Australia:D
the fact that they're not even in the list shows how unclivilised this nation is.:rolleyes:
Yer but we have proper dividing lines on our map that designate where a state ends and another begins, trying to decypher that on a map of the US is like a rubix cube:)
Neu Leonstein
13-12-2005, 13:01
Why not say the same thing about Japan and the Chinese? They not good enough to mention? The Raping of the Native Americans?--that is pretty much over. The English and the Irish?
Well, there was no comment about the Native Americans, nor the Armenians.
As for the Japanese, I think it would be more appropriate for a Japanese person to answer this, but since none of them did: The Japanese who did this are dead too, and you can't blame modern Japan for what happened there.

Oh wait your a german-- so of course its only the them that I shouldnt be put-off about.
Just pretend it didnt happen I suppose? Its been awhile forget about it?
The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.
:rolleyes:
a) There is a different government in power now, which has made a clear cut with the past.
b) The people responsible are dead, and only very few Nazis are still alive. Those are in no position today to do anything but wait for their death.
c) There is a different culture today in Germany. Remembering the Holocaust has been bred into German students eversince 1949. It cannot happen again - and that is a guarantee.
d) I'd appreciate if you wouldn't imply me being a Nazi, because quite frankly, I have never talked to you before and you seem utterly oblivious to my views.

Claining that a nations past has nothing to do with its present is absurd.
National Idetity.
What is National Identity? There is no such thing in a Hegelian sense, but maybe you use some other definition?
And who gives a shit about any of this? The fact of the matter is that you are in absolutely no position to judge the country of Germany at this point in time by the Nazi era.
Germany has done nothing wrong for the past 60 years, and has been an international model citizen, if there is such a thing. Yet the only thing you choose to remember is this 12 year period.

Just like people wanting to ignore American Slave practices or Native Genocide....funny its always Germans and White people.
I'm the last person to ignore the Holocaust, or Nazi war crimes. But you need to remember that this is not the subject of the thread.
I took offense to someone judging my country based on a single event that has no meaningful bearing on it today.
As for your "always Germans", I'd want you to prove it. I don't appreciate having an entire nation maliciously attacked like that as Nazi apologists.
Swilatia
13-12-2005, 13:36
I hate USA for one reason: George W. Bush.
He started these wars that have absolutely no purpose.
He destroyed landmarks in his nation and kiled 3000 people just to have an excuse to kill even more people.
He cheats in elections.

3 words: Worst Leader Ever.
Dishonorable Scum
13-12-2005, 14:29
So, how are we defining "civilized"? The technical definition of a civilization is "a culture that has writing". Since every nation on earth has a writing system (either homegrown or imported), that would mean that they're all civilized. The question then reduces to "What's your least favorite nation?"

And so my answer is: Turkmenistan. Halk, Watan, Turkmenbashi, my ass.

:rolleyes:
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 16:24
Why not say the same thing about Japan and the Chinese? They not good enough to mention? The Raping of the Native Americans?--that is pretty much over. The English and the Irish?
Oh wait your a german-- so of course its only the them that I shouldnt be put-off about.
Just pretend it didnt happen I suppose? Its been awhile forget about it?
The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.


Claining that a nations past has nothing to do with its present is absurd.
National Idetity.

Just like people wanting to ignore American Slave practices or Native Genocide....funny its always Germans and White people.

I can honestly say with 100% sincerity, that I hate people like you.

Give Neu a break. He is just about the farthest away from being involved in Nazism as you could get. As for Germany, they are doing everything they can to get over their horrific past and dickheads like you are not making it any easier. Its not the same people there today, Germans are not Nazis, the Nazis were Germans(and Austrians).

As for America.....that was a couple hundred years ago...who cares! Nobody alive today would even think about owning blacks. Nor would they condone someone else doing it. And, most people moved to America after slavery had been abolished so they are completely free from any blame. And as for the killing of the native Americans, well, you show me one great nation that didnt have to take over other people and expand to get to its power, and I will totally eat my hat.
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 16:25
Why not say the same thing about Japan and the Chinese? They not good enough to mention? The Raping of the Native Americans?--that is pretty much over. The English and the Irish?
Oh wait your a german-- so of course its only the them that I shouldnt be put-off about.
Just pretend it didnt happen I suppose? Its been awhile forget about it?
The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.


Claining that a nations past has nothing to do with its present is absurd.
National Idetity.

Just like people wanting to ignore American Slave practices or Native Genocide....funny its always Germans and White people.

And by the way, dipshit, Germans ARE white people.
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 16:26
No your not a racist.

Yeah it would seem so except for that one tiny little fact...hmm what is it...oh yeah Islam isnt a race!
Call to power
13-12-2005, 16:29
I demand to know why France and Italy are one the poll :p
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 16:30
Well, there was no comment about the Native Americans, nor the Armenians.
As for the Japanese, I think it would be more appropriate for a Japanese person to answer this, but since none of them did: The Japanese who did this are dead too, and you can't blame modern Japan for what happened there.


:rolleyes:
a) There is a different government in power now, which has made a clear cut with the past.
b) The people responsible are dead, and only very few Nazis are still alive. Those are in no position today to do anything but wait for their death.
c) There is a different culture today in Germany. Remembering the Holocaust has been bred into German students eversince 1949. It cannot happen again - and that is a guarantee.
d) I'd appreciate if you wouldn't imply me being a Nazi, because quite frankly, I have never talked to you before and you seem utterly oblivious to my views.


What is National Identity? There is no such thing in a Hegelian sense, but maybe you use some other definition?
And who gives a shit about any of this? The fact of the matter is that you are in absolutely no position to judge the country of Germany at this point in time by the Nazi era.
Germany has done nothing wrong for the past 60 years, and has been an international model citizen, if there is such a thing. Yet the only thing you choose to remember is this 12 year period.


I'm the last person to ignore the Holocaust, or Nazi war crimes. But you need to remember that this is not the subject of the thread.
I took offense to someone judging my country based on a single event that has no meaningful bearing on it today.
As for your "always Germans", I'd want you to prove it. I don't appreciate having an entire nation maliciously attacked like that as Nazi apologists.

Go my germany buddy, tear this oblivious unimformed asshole a new one.:D
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 16:31
Yes, I must agree with you here. You either love a country or leave it. If they want to keep their "traditions" and so on they can do so in their own countries without poisoning our own ones. This is hardly racist, so anyone who is so weak-minded as to brand it as such must wake up. Foreigners refusing to integrate into a society breeds racism, not vice-versa. Does anyone here honestly think that if Afro-Americans did not integrate in the USA that they would be tolerated?...Please :rolleyes: Yet they have integrated, and are becoming all the more integrated all the time, to their credit I may add.

You have the option of living in a country, or leaving it. Its not so difficult as it used to be.

As for which I dislike most, I would say the USA, then China and then the arab nations. France, Germany, the UK, Japan and so on are hardly, by contrast, would be some of my favourites.

Ah Europa, my good buddy, can always count on you for some back up, since we share many views and all:p
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 20:04
I just dont understand why muslims try so hard to make the West bend over backward for them. I mean they expect what they would recieve in a Muslim Theocracy. Well in my opinion, no one is holding them back from moving there.
La Habana Cuba
13-12-2005, 20:19
I voted France, my cousins who are white blond hair blue eyed native born Cuban hispanics and speak fluent english visited France on vacation before President George W Bush and felt the French rude and unfriendly towards Americans.
Rakiya
13-12-2005, 21:42
Germany has done nothing wrong for the past 60 years, and has been an international model citizen, if there is such a thing. Yet the only thing you choose to remember is this 12 year period.

You have to look at Germany as a whole and communist East Germany was not exactly what I would consider a model citizen. Beyond that, I completely agree with everything you said in your post.
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 22:35
You have to look at Germany as a whole and communist East Germany was not exactly what I would consider a model citizen. Beyond that, I completely agree with everything you said in your post.

That does not count as that was totally out of Germanys controll. And for all intents and purposes, that wasnt Germany, that was simply part of the USSR super state.

Thats a low blow and doesnt really have anything to do with what Neu said about Germany.
The Atlantian islands
13-12-2005, 22:38
I voted France, my cousins who are white blond hair blue eyed native born Cuban hispanics and speak fluent english visited France on vacation before President George W Bush and felt the French rude and unfriendly towards Americans.

A little insecure about your race, perhaps?:rolleyes:

No one cares if they are blondes....you dont have to prove anything, relax bro.

And how would he know that they are rude and unfriendly to Americans by going to France if he himself is not an American?
Martinica
13-12-2005, 22:42
Is Canada not a civilized Nation?
Eruantalon
13-12-2005, 22:48
And the bastion of civilization for most of the last few millennia isn't civilized?
Not any more, it isn't. It's been left far behind.

To all those non-Americans saying "USA" think about it for a moment! Whatever the USA does, I can probably show you China doing the same thing twice as bad.
Dehny
13-12-2005, 22:51
stone me id no idea the French were civilised,


Austrailians have fallen in my view too
Preebs
13-12-2005, 22:54
I just dont understand why muslims try so hard to make the West bend over backward for them. I mean they expect what they would recieve in a Muslim Theocracy. Well in my opinion, no one is holding them back from moving there.
Yeah, because ALL. or even most, Muslims have the same political/religious views. Yeah. That.
Saxnot
13-12-2005, 22:55
Not any more, it isn't. It's been left far behind.

To all those non-Americans saying "USA" think about it for a moment! Whatever the USA does, I can probably show you China doing the same thing twice as bad.
Doesn't mean we have to hate it less. I didn't vote US, actually. But still. It's who you hate, not who's more deserving of hate. :P
Shinano
13-12-2005, 22:56
I hate USA for one reason: George W. Bush.
He started these wars that have absolutely no purpose.
He destroyed landmarks in his nation and kiled 3000 people just to have an excuse to kill even more people.
He cheats in elections.

3 words: Worst Leader Ever.

Great, Michael Moore got another victim. I mean, Rush and company might joke about liberals eating babies or something, but come on - its not like anyone takes him seriously on it.

Anyone who has a brain and believes in the Western tradition of liberty will have no problems picking out the Chinese government as the real enemy here. France's government and economic system is messed up and its people (IMO) absurd, but I'm not even going to think about considering it as bad as China.

The only people who can even think about picking the USA are those particularily disgusted by our complete lack of backbone as Taiwan is bullied around by China. Or maybe Israel, because we are wusses when it comes to Iran, or heck, even about getting tough with terrorists in Iraq. If I was from South Korea I'd be a little unnerved as well, because it's possible based on the timing of an invasion that the US wouldn't even help us out. Especially if the president was a Democrat and Beijing told him not to.

To the Europeans that hate America - I'll just laugh as your countries are subverted internally by radical Islam.
Latvija Libera
13-12-2005, 23:05
Voted Russia, funnily enough.

Corrupt to the bones on all levels, nothing goes without bribes, everything is for sale.
Ruled by an impenetrable network of a pseudo-democratic wannabe-czar, a handful of billionaires, mobsters, and old comradeships.

Sounds somewhat like the USA, though, hehe, when I think about it.
Europa Maxima
13-12-2005, 23:07
I voted France, my cousins who are white blond hair blue eyed native born Cuban hispanics and speak fluent english visited France on vacation before President George W Bush and felt the French rude and unfriendly towards Americans.
Did they even speak French? :rolleyes: I applaud France for the way it treats its English tourists. If you visit a country, you should make an effort to learn some of its basic phrases and so on. You may say oh but the English are so polite...it is easy for them since English is an international language. :rolleyes: The French are particularly resentful towards English speakers because of their relationship with the UK, and now the USA. Its an attempt of theirs to keep their country from being overriden by Anglo-saxon influences. Oh, and might I say, George Bush really does all English speakers a credit, what with his marvellous command of the language. :rolleyes: And who can forget "the French don't even have a word for entrepreneur." Let your cousins go to Japan, a country of strict customs and rituals, and break a couple of Japanese customs, and see how they will be received by the Japanese.

By the way, your cousins colours are irrelevant. The French have more respect for one who embraces their country's culture than for one who is merely white.
Europa Maxima
13-12-2005, 23:10
Is Canada not a civilized Nation?
Everyone loves Canada :p
Europa Maxima
13-12-2005, 23:11
Ah Europa, my good buddy, can always count on you for some back up, since we share many views and all:p
His post merited the response I gave it.
The Zapatista Rebels
13-12-2005, 23:12
I dont like America just cos its so far up its own arse
They bang on about how theyre so democratic, and when it comes to the crunch there are only 2 political parties in their lower house, all the voting is done by electoral colleges, poor people cant vote in some areas cos you need ID and 2 major credit cards, gun crime is of astronomical proportions, and George Bush only got in after kerry decided to yield to him. Okay, I like americans, but do they have to be so damn ignorant about theirown shortcomings and so vocal about everyone elses?
Swilatia
13-12-2005, 23:20
Great, Michael Moore got another victim. I mean, Rush and company might joke about liberals eating babies or something, but come on - its not like anyone takes him seriously on it.

Anyone who has a brain and believes in the Western tradition of liberty will have no problems picking out the Chinese government as the real enemy here. France's government and economic system is messed up and its people (IMO) absurd, but I'm not even going to think about considering it as bad as China.

The only people who can even think about picking the USA are those particularily disgusted by our complete lack of backbone as Taiwan is bullied around by China. Or maybe Israel, because we are wusses when it comes to Iran, or heck, even about getting tough with terrorists in Iraq. If I was from South Korea I'd be a little unnerved as well, because it's possible based on the timing of an invasion that the US wouldn't even help us out. Especially if the president was a Democrat and Beijing told him not to.

To the Europeans that hate America - I'll just laugh as your countries are subverted internally by radical Islam.

Radical Islam. Ha! Al Qaeda did not do 11/9, bush did! I can tell you that this radical islam junk is false, and you should wake up from that nightmare tha Bush wants you to have. And what's with this Homeland Security thing. I don't give a damn about security, because the 11/9 attacks were done by bush.
The Zapatista Rebels
13-12-2005, 23:20
By the way, your cousins colours are irrelevant. The French have more respect for one who embraces their country's culture than for one who is merely white.

Amen.
Shinano
13-12-2005, 23:42
Radical Islam. Ha! Al Qaeda did not do 11/9, bush did! I can tell you that this radical islam junk is false, and you should wake up from that nightmare tha Bush wants you to have. And what's with this Homeland Security thing. I don't give a damn about security, because the 11/9 attacks were done by bush.

Dude, I don't know if you didn't hear what was going on in France a month ago, or something. Read the news sometime ;) .

The best thing their government could come up with was an assortment of concessions and ever-so-stereotypical French "surrenders". A pity they were all too dumb to listen to that Sarkozy fellow, who called the rioters what they were and would have probably crushed their lawless destruction of property in a day or two had he been allowed his way.

As for radical Islam, I'm afraid of radical Islam. You should be too, because it is their doctrine to oppress and forcibly convert all non-Muslim heathens. And we are both non-Muslim heathens, I am assuming. Maybe you haven't ever heard about this place called Iran, or this fellow called al-Zarqawi, or this other one called Bin Laden. You ought to take a look into them sometime, it might surprise you just what we are fighting ;)

9-11 attacks, yes, were done by Bush. You caught my stupid American opinion red handed. Moore is right. Liberals also eat babies, and are planning a communist takeover of America. Funny what the idiots on both sides say, isn't it.

Yeah, America isn't perfect. The Republicans have abandoned their economic principles in favor of big government, and socialistic principles still are enshrined in our laws and our thinking. Socialism is of the same brand of crime against liberty as is restrincting freedoms on the basis of religion or morality. Whatever happened to the spirit of Thomas Jefferson:

"That government is best, which governs least"?
Neu Leonstein
14-12-2005, 01:05
And by the way, dipshit, Germans ARE white people.
Not all of them...:p
Swilatia
14-12-2005, 03:07
Dude, I don't know if you didn't hear what was going on in France a month ago, or something. Read the news sometime ;) .

The best thing their government could come up with was an assortment of concessions and ever-so-stereotypical French "surrenders". A pity they were all too dumb to listen to that Sarkozy fellow, who called the rioters what they were and would have probably crushed their lawless destruction of property in a day or two had he been allowed his way.

As for radical Islam, I'm afraid of radical Islam. You should be too, because it is their doctrine to oppress and forcibly convert all non-Muslim heathens. And we are both non-Muslim heathens, I am assuming. Maybe you haven't ever heard about this place called Iran, or this fellow called al-Zarqawi, or this other one called Bin Laden. You ought to take a look into them sometime, it might surprise you just what we are fighting ;)

9-11 attacks, yes, were done by Bush. You caught my stupid American opinion red handed. Moore is right. Liberals also eat babies, and are planning a communist takeover of America. Funny what the idiots on both sides say, isn't it.

Yeah, America isn't perfect. The Republicans have abandoned their economic principles in favor of big government, and socialistic principles still are enshrined in our laws and our thinking. Socialism is of the same brand of crime against liberty as is restrincting freedoms on the basis of religion or morality. Whatever happened to the spirit of Thomas Jefferson:

"That government is best, which governs least"?

Liberals do not eat babies.
La Habana Cuba
14-12-2005, 03:51
A little insecure about your race, perhaps?:rolleyes:

No one cares if they are blondes....you dont have to prove anything, relax bro.

And how would he know that they are rude and unfriendly to Americans by going to France if he himself is not an American?

Thank you for your post bro, Atlantian islands I understand what you mean,
to your point, the point is they look white American.

Due to the French s' reputation, my point is they are white, not black, dark lite hispanic, dark hispanic, not darker skin muslims, so I eliminated race as an issue and this was before President George W Bush became president, and they still felt the French rude and unfriendly towards Americans, they said they did not have a nice vacation in France.
The Atlantian islands
14-12-2005, 04:04
Not all of them...:p

LOL, how did I know, buddy, how did I know....
Ariddia
14-12-2005, 10:57
I declare this thread


THE WORST THREAD EVER

Have a nice day.

I agree.

An entire thread devoted to simplistic generalisations and nation-bashing. Not to mention the rather meaningless (and, to top it, undefined) criterion of "civilised". At least it's a reference thread to spot idiots who seriously try to explain why they hate an entire country...
Potaria
14-12-2005, 10:58
I agree.

An entire thread devoted to simplistic generalisations and nation-bashing. Not to mention the rather meaningless (and, to top it, undefined) criterion of "civilised". At least it's a reference thread to spot idiots who seriously try to explain why they hate an entire country...

I concur.