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Will athiests be celebrating Christmas?

Blu-tac
12-12-2005, 22:10
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?
Lazy Otakus
12-12-2005, 22:12
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?

I'll probably cure my hangover. :)
Grave_n_idle
12-12-2005, 22:13
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?

I will be... I have a Southern Baptist wife and daughter... I'll probably end up going to church, too.... :)
New Genoa
12-12-2005, 22:13
I'll be praying to my savior, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, in blood.
[NS:::]Elgesh
12-12-2005, 22:14
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?

Of course I will!

Christmas in the west is a tradition with layers upon layers of cultural accretions, of which the celebration of the birth of Jesus is but one.

Family christmas, watchnight service, overeating and presents.
[NS]Goddistan
12-12-2005, 22:14
Check out the thread "Hypocritical Christians," Blu-tac. This has been discussed, virtually ad nauseum. :headbang:
The Similized world
12-12-2005, 22:15
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?Yups. Along with a bunch of other heathens. We'll also celebrate a bunch of other mish-mash holidays on other dates.. Such as wintersolstice & such.

In fact, we pretty much jump on any opportunity to get drunk & treat eachother nicely.


So why do you give eachother presents, why do you celebrate the birth of Christ on this day? Do you dance around a Christmas tree? Or any other old heathen, decidedly Un-Christian traditions?
LarinaVille
12-12-2005, 22:16
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?

I was just thinking about this when I was walking home. Wierd. But anyway, I will but not to any great degree.
Laenis
12-12-2005, 22:16
I'll be having a traditional yet commericialised ceremony to celebrate midwinter, just as my pagan ancestors did before Christianity used the same date to name as the birth of Jesus Christ, because it was easier to convert them when they got to retain their holy days.
Jenrak
12-12-2005, 22:16
Of course. It's more of a secular and materialistic thing for most people nowadays.
Pulcifer
12-12-2005, 22:16
Though I am not an athiest, I feel that I must point this out before some F&#&@&$&@$&@**# athiest does. Christmas only celebrates the birth of Jesus (who's been proven to exist), but is not the date of his birth.

Bastards.
All of you.
Cahnt
12-12-2005, 22:17
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?
And there was me thinking he was born in Febuary and they moved the date to the end of December because that's when the Roman's used to celebrate Saturnalia.
Eruantalon
12-12-2005, 22:18
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?
You're damned right I will be celebrating my life with the people I love!
New Genoa
12-12-2005, 22:20
Though I am not an athiest, I feel that I must point this out before some F&#&@&$&@$&@**# athiest does. Christmas only celebrates the birth of Jesus (who's been proven to exist), but is not the date of his birth.

Bastards.
All of you.

And there was me thinking he was born in Febuary and they moved the date to the end of December because that's when the Roman's used to celebrate Saturnalia.

Your efforts were fruitless
Forteia
12-12-2005, 22:20
Seeing as how Christmas originally celebrated Yule, and that historians agree that Christ was probably born in late august-early september, I see no qualm in celebrating the Feast day that naturally follows the winter equinox.
McVenezuela
12-12-2005, 22:20
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?

Guess what? There will be non-atheists not celebrating Christmas. Christianity <> religion. Believe it or not, there are people who are religious but don't celebrate Christmas. Lots and lots of them.
Pulcifer
12-12-2005, 22:21
To clear up my own quote, I was not implying that not being Christian makes you a "bastard" but being an overly sarcastic almost militant religeon hater (This does not apply to all athiests, most of whom are really agnostics) does make you a bastard.

Merry Christ's Mass. And X-mas is Christian too, as the Greeks spelled Christ with an X.

Merry other denominational holiday to the rest of you.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:21
Though I am not an athiest, I feel that I must point this out before some F&#&@&$&@$&@**# athiest does. Christmas only celebrates the birth of Jesus (who's been proven to exist), but is not the date of his birth.

Bastards.
All of you.
um...many of the people on here are atheistic, agnostic, and generally not christian. Might not be the best idea to piss all of us off by calling us "F&#&@&$&@$&@**# athiest[s]" and "bastards"

I would be more concerned about the fact that probably 99% of christmas traditions are pagan than the date of Jesus' birthday.
Cahnt
12-12-2005, 22:22
Your efforts were fruitless
So it would seem. He's probably the same bastard who keeps sniping me on ebay as well...
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:22
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?

Celebrating Yule/Saturnalia that the Christians stole from the pagans/Romans. "Christmas" - hah! We still call it "Jul." "Christ who?" basically. You don't own the false soltice you tried to usurp, you know.
New Genoa
12-12-2005, 22:23
Other denominational holiday? Does anyone seriously care about hanukah or kwanzaa? seriously, everyone should celebrate christmas or not celebrate at all. in fact, why celebrate? just give us the feckin' week off and I'm content.
Desperate Measures
12-12-2005, 22:23
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?
On December 25th, 1949, Sissy Spacek was born. So, I'll be celebrating Sissymas. IN SPACE.

MERRY SISSYMAS EVERYONE!!
Cahnt
12-12-2005, 22:24
Guess what? There will be non-atheists not celebrating Christmas. Christianity <> religion. Believe it or not, there are people who are religious but don't celebrate Christmas. Lots and lots of them.
I suspect I'll be celebrating Christmas by beating Pulcifer to death with a lead pipe.
Virtularia
12-12-2005, 22:25
I know I will. Presents for everyone!

It's just like Easter. Which would you rather do? Celebrate the resurrection of some cult leader (the events of which the bible cant even get right - http://ffrf.org/books/lfif/stone.php ), which was originally dated as a pagan holiday as well... or paint eggs, eat chocolate, and let kids have a world of a time.
Hmm... tough choice.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:25
On December 25th, 1949, Sissy Spacek was born. So, I'll be celebrating Sissymas. IN SPACE.

MERRY SISSYMAS EVERYONE!!
can we celebrate by having a huge prom and dumping pigs blood on some creepy looking girl who in turn kills us all?

now THAT is a holiday.
Blu-tac
12-12-2005, 22:28
I suspect I'll be celebrating Christmas by beating Pulcifer to death with a lead pipe.

well then you won't be celebrating Christmas as you will not be taking into account the fact that it is meant to be a holiday of celebration of peace and love... I also know that you ain't Christian...
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:28
can we celebrate by having a huge prom and dumping pigs blood on some creepy looking girl who in turn kills us all?

now THAT is a holiday.

Exchange blood for egg nog and similarly coloured liquids, and I'm game!
Jenrak
12-12-2005, 22:29
Though I am not an athiest, I feel that I must point this out before some F&#&@&$&@$&@**# athiest does. Christmas only celebrates the birth of Jesus (who's been proven to exist), but is not the date of his birth.

Bastards.
All of you.

Nice trolling.

Other denominational holiday? Does anyone seriously care about hanukah or kwanzaa? seriously, everyone should celebrate christmas or not celebrate at all. in fact, why celebrate? just give us the feckin' week off and I'm content.

It's more of a commercial thing, and Coca-Cola really helped Christmas becoming a powerful Western holiday.
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:29
well then you won't be celebrating Christmas as you will not be taking into account the fact that it is meant to be a holiday of celebration of peace and love... I also know that you ain't Christian...

What does Jul/Yule have to do with peace and love?
Pulcifer
12-12-2005, 22:30
Look, my first quote was overly harsh and very rash (he said, reaching for his lead pipe hat). I sincerly apologise for insulting most of you. Any one who considers themselves a militant athiest can feel insulted.
Deep Kimchi
12-12-2005, 22:30
I think that all holidays granted by an employer should be floating holidays, to be taken when you want.

If you're Christian, you can do the Christmas thing at Christmas, and the atheists can take some other day off, so the company doesn't close for any length of time. And when the atheists take off, the Christians (and Hindus, and Moslems) will be at their desks up until the time their religious holidays come up.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:30
well then you won't be celebrating Christmas as you will not be taking into account the fact that it is meant to be a holiday of celebration of peace and love... I also know that you ain't Christian...
Oddly, was once an excuse to go kill your Jewish neighbors, as well as was legally banned and generally not celebrated in America for a very long time due to its non-religious aspects
Cahnt
12-12-2005, 22:30
well then you won't be celebrating Christmas as you will not be taking into account the fact that it is meant to be a holiday of celebration of peace and love... I also know that you ain't Christian...
This is why I shall be celebrating Christmas by beating Pulcifer to death with a lead pipe.
Pulcifer
12-12-2005, 22:32
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaag. I'm sorry all right? See my above apology for details.
Laenis
12-12-2005, 22:32
well then you won't be celebrating Christmas as you will not be taking into account the fact that it is meant to be a holiday of celebration of peace and love... I also know that you ain't Christian...

Well then, if he isn't christian he shouldn't have to give any attention to any christian interpretation of what the holiday should be about. I don't celebrate 'peace and love' at christmas, I spend it having great time with my family and friends.
Pulcifer
12-12-2005, 22:33
Well then, if he isn't christian he shouldn't have to give any attention to any christian interpretation of what the holiday should be about. I don't celebrate 'peace and love' at christmas, I spend it having great time with my family and friends.

Isn't that peace and love? Or do you spend the time beating them?
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:33
Exchange blood for egg nog and similarly coloured liquids, and I'm game!
deal!


wait...what is similar in color to egg nog?


eh. screw it. Hey fass, wanna be my Sissymas date?
Laenis
12-12-2005, 22:34
I think that all holidays granted by an employer should be floating holidays, to be taken when you want.

If you're Christian, you can do the Christmas thing at Christmas, and the atheists can take some other day off, so the company doesn't close for any length of time. And when the atheists take off, the Christians (and Hindus, and Moslems) will be at their desks up until the time their religious holidays come up.

That's a good plan, but the thing is that even atheists will want to take Christmas off, as it's a general time for party and family get togethers. Some may come in, but is it really worth buisnesses to still be open while missing 95% of the staff?
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:34
eh. screw it. Hey fass, wanna be my Sissymas date?

Sissymas means never having to say "No, I'm saving myself for marriage," so a date it is!
Pulcifer
12-12-2005, 22:35
deal!


wait...what is similar in color to egg nog?


eh. screw it. Hey fass, wanna be my Sissymas date?

Hey, Sissymas is actually a good idea. I like it.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:35
Isn't that peace and love? Or do you spend the time beating them?
Is there a difference? "you only hurt the ones you love", after all [/misusing trite expressions]
Laenis
12-12-2005, 22:35
Isn't that peace and love? Or do you spend the time beating them?

I'm not going to behave much differently to anyone else I don't know. If someone starts a fight with me at christmas i'm not going to back down because I refuse to fight at a special time of peace and love.
Pulcifer
12-12-2005, 22:36
Is there a difference? "you only hurt the ones you love", after all [/misusing trite expressions]

No, you can kill people you don't know, and that counts as hurting.
McVenezuela
12-12-2005, 22:37
I think that all holidays granted by an employer should be floating holidays, to be taken when you want.

If you're Christian, you can do the Christmas thing at Christmas, and the atheists can take some other day off, so the company doesn't close for any length of time. And when the atheists take off, the Christians (and Hindus, and Moslems) will be at their desks up until the time their religious holidays come up.

The idealist in me has always loved this idea, but the realist and former small businessman part also knows how incredibly hard it would be to implement and how much abuse would go on. It could work for big corporations, but if you employ just a few people, it would play hell with productivity... unless you made sure to hire people who were all the same religion so you could close up for a couple of days. That'd be a sort of discrimination, though.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:37
Sissymas means never having to say "No, I'm saving myself for marriage," so a date it is!
ahaha...awesome.:fluffle:
First Sissymas date ever...Drinks all around!
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:39
ahaha...awesome.:fluffle:
First Sissymas date ever...Drinks all around!

Drink, I say, drink! It'll help you relax. :fluffle:
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:40
Drink, I say, drink! It'll help you relax. :fluffle:
You just want to get me drunk and take advantage of me, don't you?!

not that I'm against that kinda thing...I just wanna make sure we're both on the same page.
Iztatepopotla
12-12-2005, 22:41
I'll probably go see a movie. Maybe King Kong, I've heard it's a Christian allegory.
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:42
You just want to get me drunk and take advantage of me, don't you?!

not that I'm against that kinda thing...I just wanna make sure we're both on the same page.

I'm an equal-opportunist, so we can take advantage of eachother. You ravage my back, I'll ravage your front.
The South Islands
12-12-2005, 22:43
Why does every thread that Fass posts in seem to turn to sex?
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:43
Why does every thread that Fass posts in seem to turn to sex?

Because it's contagious.
Ex workers
12-12-2005, 22:44
festivus anybody?
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:45
I'm an equal-opportunist, so we can take advantage of eachother. You ravage my back, I'll ravage your front.
:eek:

Deal.

Looks like this Sissymas, I'll be gettin' some good ol' fashioned Scandinavian lovin' :fluffle:
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:46
:eek:
Deal.
Looks like this Sissymas, I'll be gettin' some good ol' fashioned Scandinavian lovin' :fluffle:

Ol' fashioned was the last thing on my mind, but I can be conservative if you want.
The Mindset
12-12-2005, 22:47
I will be celebrating Ecksmas, the celebration of comsumerism and gift-giving with my gay boyfriend and a variety of other infidels.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:47
Ol' fashioned was the last thing on my mind, but I can be conservative if you want.
Little from column A, little from column B.
Pulcifer
12-12-2005, 22:47
He lacks decent Christian morals (he said sarcastically).
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:49
Why does every thread that Fass posts in seem to turn to sex?
Wern't you the one who "got down" with him?
New Sans
12-12-2005, 22:50
I think I'll just be celebrating St. Patricks day a bit early this year.
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:50
Little from column A, little from column B.

Not to worry, whichever it is, I bring my A game. And B game, and L game, and S game. :)
The South Islands
12-12-2005, 22:50
Wern't you the one who "got down" with him?

...People still remember that?

*goes back into hiding*
Minoriteeburg
12-12-2005, 22:51
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?


hey as long as presents are involved i'm game.
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:51
...People still remember that?

Unfortunately for me, yes.
Laenis
12-12-2005, 22:51
You know, if an christian ultra fundamentalist read this thread I think their mind would explode.

Not that I object to that, I just want to congratulate you all on doing the world a favour.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:52
Not to worry, whichever it is, I bring my A game. And B game, and L game, and S game. :)
L and S eh? Hmm... *ponders what those could be*

I'll bring the whole damn alphabet!;)
The South Islands
12-12-2005, 22:53
Unfortunately for me, yes.

I'm sorry to soil you're reputation like that...

To be seen with a Heterosexual! For shame, Fass, for shame!
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:54
L and S eh? Hmm... *ponders what those could be*

I'll bring the whole damn alphabet!;)

Ooh, the old "tongue the alphabet on your lover" trick. Classic, because it's so good.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:55
...People still remember that?

*goes back into hiding*
sorry...I have a really random long term memory...stupid stuff sticks.

I'm sorry to soil you're reputation like that...

To be seen with a Heterosexual! For shame, Fass, for shame!
haha...well, he does have a breeder for Sissymas...but he's gonna get me drunk, so it'll work out somehow I suppose
The South Islands
12-12-2005, 22:55
You know, if an christian ultra fundamentalist read this thread I think their mind would explode.

Not that I object to that, I just want to congratulate you all on doing the world a favour.

Making people die is good, is it not?
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:56
I'm sorry to soil you're reputation like that...
To be seen with a Heterosexual! For shame, Fass, for shame!

A closeted one at that. What would my mother say?
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:56
Ooh, the old "tongue the alphabet on your lover" trick. Classic, because it's so good.
What can I say, I've had some good teachers.
OceanDrive3
12-12-2005, 22:57
Sissymas means never having to say "No, I'm saving myself for marriage," so a date it is!ok..but what if what you really want to say is
"No thanks, I'm saving myself for my 1:00 am date.."

FassMass? :D :D :p :D
The South Islands
12-12-2005, 22:57
A closeted one at that. What would my mother say?

She would be very dissapointed. Being deflowered like that. By ME!
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:58
What can I say, I've had some good teachers.

Serendipitous, because a little practice before getting it on with me is always recommended.
Critz
12-12-2005, 22:58
Being an outsider....looking in.....I understod that Christmas was a Celtic holiday that was confiscated by the Romans(Catholics) to celebrate the birth of Capitalism.
Swilatia
12-12-2005, 22:58
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?
i do not celebrate christamas because it is a christian holiday. Also, it was not even the day jesus was born.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 22:59
Serendipitous, because a little practice before getting it on with me is always recommended.
For some reason, I kinda assumed that. Not sure why.

*scans the previous 2 pages of conversation*

OHHH! right.
The South Islands
12-12-2005, 22:59
Being an outsider....looking in.....I understod that Christmas was a Celtic holiday that was confiscated by the Romans(Catholics) to celebrate the birth of Capitalism.

What?
Fass
12-12-2005, 22:59
She would be very dissapointed. Being deflowered like that. By ME!

Deflowered? Hah! Oh, dear, that is so naïve.
Pulcifer
12-12-2005, 23:00
Being an outsider....looking in.....I understod that Christmas was a Celtic holiday that was confiscated by the Romans(Catholics) to celebrate the birth of Capitalism.

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Please tell me you're joking.
Fass
12-12-2005, 23:00
ok..but what if I really want to say is
"No thanks, I'm saving myself for my 1:00 am date.."

That's OK. I do my best work when I'm on a dead-line.
The South Islands
12-12-2005, 23:00
Deflowered? Hah! Oh, dear, that is so naïve.

What better term would you have for it?
Fass
12-12-2005, 23:02
For some reason, I kinda assumed that. Not sure why.
*scans the previous 2 pages of conversation*
OHHH! right.

All that stretching and warm-up pays off, I'll tell you that.
Fass
12-12-2005, 23:02
What better term would you have for it?

Pounded.
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 23:03
All that stretching and warm-up pays off, I'll tell you that.
"anticipation heightens pleasure", eh?

oh, you mean physical stretching and warm-ups? I'll keep that in mind. And perhaps get a good nights sleep?
[NS]Goddistan
12-12-2005, 23:04
Originally plsted by Laenis

You know, if an christian ultra fundamentalist read this thread I think their mind would explode.

Not that I object to that, I just want to congratulate you all on doing the world a favour.

Nah. I'm still here.

Unless by "ultra fundamentalist" you mean "Neo-Fundamentalist." That's a bit too conservative for me.

Originally posted by Vaitupu
Originally Posted by Fass
Not to worry, whichever it is, I bring my A game. And B game, and L game, and S game.

L and S eh? Hmm... *ponders what those could be*

I'll bring the whole damn alphabet!

B-A-L-L-S? :confused:

Originally Posted by The South Islands
...People still remember that?

*goes back into hiding*

Haha, you had it in your signature long enough. :p :p
Fass
12-12-2005, 23:05
"anticipation heightens pleasure", eh?

oh, you mean physical stretching and warm-ups? I'll keep that in mind. And perhaps get a good nights sleep?

You'll need your strength. I can be ruthless at times.
Knootian East Indies
12-12-2005, 23:05
Damn you, Fass, for turning this high-minded discussion of important philosophical issues and contemporary politics into a sleazy thread of innuendo. (and not being on skype to boot.)
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 23:06
You'll need your strength. I can be ruthless at times.
So I should start the protein suppliments and strength training now?

and maybe have half a dozen red bull prior to?
The Similized world
12-12-2005, 23:08
What does Jul/Yule have to do with peace and love?No idea. I thought it was all about getting unbelievably pissed & have lots of sex?
Raharna
12-12-2005, 23:08
I'm going to spend christmas stuffing my face and having drinks and laughs with my familie. Well that and studieing for my exams ... somewhere in between ... I'm sure ... maybe.

I was going to say something about christmas being a collection of customs and traditions from varying cultures that were assimilated by the Christians ... but it seems half the world beat me to it.
Fass
12-12-2005, 23:10
No idea. I thought it was all about getting unbelievably pissed & have lots of sex?

That's what I bring to Sissymas from it at least!
Vaitupu
12-12-2005, 23:10
No idea. I thought it was all about getting unbelievably pissed & have lots of sex?
right. Peace and love, drunk and sex...its all the same.
America of Tomorrow
12-12-2005, 23:19
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?

Well, me being an atheist, I don't want to - but getting presents kinda makes me wanna celebrate it a LITTLE. Plus, my family is forcing me. So.. yeah, am celebrating Christmas... :( All I like about it, though, are the presents :p (Yes, I know that is a stupid reason ... it should be about joy and family and all that jazz, but... that's just not my thing)

Oh, well...
The Similized world
12-12-2005, 23:21
right. Peace and love, drunk and sex...its all the same.My mistake, I shouldn't have left out the bit about finding lots of aggro. At least, that's a traditional Jul thing.
Manx Island
12-12-2005, 23:24
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?

Jesus wasn't born on december 25th, he was born around Easter, but there were too many important celebrations in this period. In my oopinion, it's a celebration as Christian as Halloween is a heathen tradition (at first, it was the eve of the day of the dead, but now christians celebrate halloween).
Maineiacs
12-12-2005, 23:25
Seeing as how Christmas originally celebrated Yule, and that historians agree that Christ was probably born in late august-early september, I see no qualm in celebrating the Feast day that naturally follows the winter equinox.


Cool! Jesus was a Virgo, just like me! :D
America of Tomorrow
12-12-2005, 23:30
Cool! Jesus was a Virgo, just like me! :D

Hm, you should be very proud :)
Vas Pokhoronim
12-12-2005, 23:33
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?
As a matter of fact, I'll be enjoying the day off playing D&D with some friends, all of whom also reject your "savior."
New Granada
12-12-2005, 23:35
Of course, I'll be celebrating the gift-giving and good-times holiday of christmas.

I wont be celebrating "Yashewah's Birthday," however.
Vas Pokhoronim
12-12-2005, 23:35
Jesus wasn't born on december 25th, he was born around Easter, but there were too many important celebrations in this period. In my oopinion, it's a celebration as Christian as Halloween is a heathen tradition (at first, it was the eve of the day of the dead, but now christians celebrate halloween).
December 25th was the traditional Zoroastrian birthday of Mithra, the Sun God. Mithraism became a rival mystery cult to Christianity in the Roman Empire, and the Christians co-opted the celebration.

Kind of like the capitalists are now doing to the Christians.
Ashmoria
12-12-2005, 23:37
the difference between a christian and an atheist/agnostic/non-christian celebrating christmas is that a christian goes to church on christmas and the others dont.

the christian emphasizes the religious aspect, the nonchristians have fun/openpresents/hang out with family.
Candelar
12-12-2005, 23:49
Seeing as how Christmas originally celebrated Yule, and that historians agree that Christ was probably born in late august-early september,
Historians don't even agree that Jesus was ever born, let alone when he was born! Most in the west assume he existed, but then most haven't actually studied the evidence in any depth.
I see no qualm in celebrating the Feast day that naturally follows the winter equinox.
It's the Winter Solstace, not Equinox. The Spring Equinox is the holiday which the Christians converted into Easter (Easter = Eostre (in Anglo-Saxon), a pagan fertility goddess).
Kinda Sensible people
13-12-2005, 00:02
I celebrate "Spendshitloadsofmoneytodemonstrateyourlovetoyourfamilymembersandfriendsmas" every year.

We call it gift day, though, since none of us gives a care about the religious significance.
DrunkenDove
13-12-2005, 00:04
Will the NS athiests be celebrating Christmas by giving out presents and recieving them this year? As seen as Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, our saviour. What will you be doing on December 25th?

Working. Damn all those athiest thieves!